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Mixing In Untreated Room - 5 Tips To Deal With Bad Acoustics

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Weiss Advice

Weiss Advice

Күн бұрын

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@karltank4410
@karltank4410 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you break down your mic collection and explain what you use them for. i love the way you explained the characteristics of the RE-20 & the SM7B
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good idea for a video tbh. I like it. Thanks Karl.
@Russplight
@Russplight Жыл бұрын
Nice Matt. Looking forward to the sound samples of the before and after.
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Me too. Some of it is me singing so it should be nicely embarrassing too! 😅
@NoQualmsTheArtist
@NoQualmsTheArtist Жыл бұрын
You actually said the ending in one go 😆
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
I KNOW!!!🎉
@Theleadersofthenewschool
@Theleadersofthenewschool Жыл бұрын
amazing video. Thanks Weiss
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Thanks Wize!
@joshid07
@joshid07 Жыл бұрын
really helpful as always!
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Thanks Josh!
@yahsyout5450
@yahsyout5450 Жыл бұрын
paused the video, grabbed my measuring tape to make some room adjustments lol.. thanks man
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@chrisdavis9135
@chrisdavis9135 Жыл бұрын
damn ...i was mounting ceiling clouds when this pops up🏆
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
That’s next on my list. Gotta figure out what height and what incline to angle and all that… plus I gotta remove a ceiling fan. ::sigh::
@chrisdavis9135
@chrisdavis9135 Жыл бұрын
@@WeissAdvice sigh x 2 I’m glad I had help… was not a solo mission…☝🏿you doing lights in the panel then I take it?! The lord put ceiling fans for a reason 🙏🏿
@anthonyayers9405
@anthonyayers9405 Жыл бұрын
No kidding, I dig the wood paneling, It's time for a wood paneling revival. How does that thin wood over studs (and insulation?) do acoustics-wise? How does it compare to sheetrock?
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
It’s super weird. The low end ports into the adjacent room which acts as a resonant chamber. So it actually traps some lows but then it produces all these goofball resonances. I’m hoping the mass of the acoustic panels will mitigate some of the resonance and so far it seems to be helping. But I did a singing test with no treatment and that shit was WEIRD
@Studio2105
@Studio2105 Жыл бұрын
Interesting point about not having to toe-in the speakers. Most manufacturer manuals or setup guides seem to recommend pointing them towards or slightly behind the ears. What's your take on this?
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
I guess every manufacturer is different but in my experience the best default it perpendicular (no toe). However, if the mix position leaves me with an overly wide image I find slight toeing will help without changing to freq response in any significant way
@Studio2105
@Studio2105 Жыл бұрын
+1 to personal experience.
@gius_taakstudio
@gius_taakstudio Жыл бұрын
that was a surprise for me too. no toe in?? btu I trust Matthew so will investigate :)
@beatskrift763
@beatskrift763 Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Thanks BeatSkrift!
@mixatstudio
@mixatstudio Жыл бұрын
Great video! i recently moved from a medium to a very small ( basement). i treated the room as much as i could, but am getting bass refection 100-200 but only when am on the desk!! anyway to test ?? no place to move the Monitors from the Desk...
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
The good news is 4" 703 will mitigate that frequency range. See if you can pinpoint the center of the problem frequency with a sine generator (most DAWs have one built in). Once you've got the sine wave going walk to the corners of your room and listen to see if there's a perceived level jump. Particularly check the upper and lower parts of the corner where three surfaces all meet up. Those tend to be problem areas for bass. If you hear bass build up there, that's where you need to treat!
@mixatstudio
@mixatstudio Жыл бұрын
@@WeissAdvice beautiful! I will test and report. Thank u very much. 🙋‍♂️ check my channel i do the same in arabic, you are a big motivation for me.
@AutoclaveBeats
@AutoclaveBeats Жыл бұрын
In your opinion, would getting an auratone type monitor be helpful if you are dealing with a less than ideal space?
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
I think auratones are helpful in any space!
@flamersss
@flamersss Жыл бұрын
Curious, what would you say is the best way to record in a untreated room? I use a condenser mic (AKG P120, $80 mic) and what start up open back headphones would you recommend to mix with if you have no studio monitors?
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Sennheiser 598/599 are great for inexpensive open backs. Best way to record in an untreated room is to experiment with different spots in the room. Find the one that seems to feel the best when you sing/play your instrument there. Chances are you'll want to avoid the corners, and avoid the exact center.
@flamersss
@flamersss Жыл бұрын
@@WeissAdvice Great, thanks! Do you advocate for RX 10? They have Deverb, Declick, De Plosives, etc. Is that a good way also to get rid of room reverb with those plugins?
@RedSpark_
@RedSpark_ Жыл бұрын
Great video Matthew, lots of useful info! Are you planning on doing acoustic measurements in there as well? A mixing trick I've been doing recently is to check the bass by sticking my head in the corner, it sounds silly but I've got some nasty nulls so the natural bass boost really helps me to hear how the sub of the kick and bass are playing together.
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
I am! And I will be doing a video going through the use of Room EQ Wizard, looking at the graphs, and explaining the process.
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Corners tend to produce bass build up. Ironically those nulls would probably be best handled by treating the corners, but you can’t just throw bs like auralex on there. Gotta use 4” 703 with an airgap and maybe even backfill it will R-13 or similar density. Pain.
@RedSpark_
@RedSpark_ Жыл бұрын
@@WeissAdvice I'm glad to hear that. Room measurements are so useful but unfortunately quite misunderstood, it seems most people jump straight to the frequency response and never quite recover from the shock! We definitely need more people teaching about them. I've been planning the treatment of my room for a few years now, it's a medium sized weirdly shaped attic room though so ultimately I expect I'll just have to experiment and figure out what works. From what I've measured already 40+55hz are room modes which I'm planning thick corner traps for but I also have some gigantic nulls at 80-100hz that are probably reflections off the back wall or the huge angled ceiling. My phantom center image is actually slightly up and to the right because of that. Pain indeed!
@slowbrain8869
@slowbrain8869 Жыл бұрын
Matt , how about producing/mixing through room simulators like waves nx nashvillie / sonarworks headphones with a pair of decent headphones?
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Sonarworks with headphones I've found to be moderately useful, and I like their calibration mic. I tried Waves NX and it didn't totally click for me. But I think it just depends on the specific software and application.
@Rio-uv1gs
@Rio-uv1gs Жыл бұрын
What about mixing in headphones in oceanway nx and other plugins that emulate studios..can a complete mix be done in this way?
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried Oceanway NX - but I use Slate Audio VSX pretty regularly and have done complete mixes using them.
@Lawislaw
@Lawislaw Жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts on correction software such as Sonarworks? I thought about getting it but I wasn’t sure if it was worth the investment
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
In my experience Sonarworks is pretty good with headphones, but not so great with speakers. The calibration mic is good though.
@germanmustache
@germanmustache Жыл бұрын
What about recording in a bad room?😒
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
You make do with what you got. Try to find the best spot in the room. Use a more directional mic. Put up whatever you can in terms of damping if the sound is too reverberant. Also depends on the source. Sometimes rooms that sound terrible for vocals sound great for guitar or drums.
@hendricksam
@hendricksam Жыл бұрын
Noice!
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
Thanks Hendrick!
@alphaomega6062
@alphaomega6062 Жыл бұрын
Maybe this video title should just be 'A bunch of tips for untreated rooms'? or just 'tips for untreated rooms' these are my top three suggestions for a suitable title. Your welcome.🎃
@WeissAdvice
@WeissAdvice Жыл бұрын
I want to title every video: Watch This And Learn Stuff… always dancing between the accuracy of titles and the SEO monster
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