Batters peek in on the sign. How to stop them. Stealing catcher signs.

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MJH-Baseball

MJH-Baseball

3 жыл бұрын

Sometimes batters will try to look at the catcher's sign or location. Here is how you can stop them. It's not just the Astros that steal signs. Youth baseball players look to get an advantage too by looking in on the catcher's pitch signs while at bat.

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@rdwells
@rdwells 3 жыл бұрын
One of my catchers once told me that his way of dealing with a batter looking back for the sign was to signal for a fastball - with his middle finger. The batter usually got the message.
@arnoldkellner2173
@arnoldkellner2173 3 жыл бұрын
High and inside cures peekers. I’m old school. My sons were catchers oldest played in Dodger organization and youngest drafted as a 17 year pld by Reds in 1998. They knew how to cure peekers
@patrickmcgraw3435
@patrickmcgraw3435 3 жыл бұрын
Loving this content. I played with a guy in Legion ball that would peek on the location everytime. He was sneaky and slick about it though; not like some of the kids in these clips. lol. He never got plunked. However, once in college, we was in a situation where the runner on second was relaying signs. My buddy was on the bump. Had the batter 0-2. Catcher came out to talk to him about the signs being stolen. And on 0-2, he caught a fastball right to the hip. LOL. Next at bat, my buddy had him 0-2 again, and hit him again just for good measure. Ahahahah. I'm sorry, but it was a funny story that we told for years. You steal signs off my buddy, he'll hit ya every time you come up to bat. ahahaha.
@theaviationlover9604
@theaviationlover9604 3 жыл бұрын
They'll stop peaking when they get it in the back
@Quidproxo
@Quidproxo 3 жыл бұрын
There used to be a way to deal with peekers but it’s frowned upon today.
@tylerdurden7387
@tylerdurden7387 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, stealing signs by the batter peeking back At catcher would instantly get a 4-seamer to rib cage next pitch
@xavseq727
@xavseq727 3 жыл бұрын
We had a lot of peekers, our catcher's bare hand signals didn't mean anything, it was the number of times he squeezed his glove after that, that counted. He would sweep the ground with his glove to reset the signal. The direction of his glove gave location, because he moved late.
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
I really like that. Great idea
@immortalkeiji4451
@immortalkeiji4451 2 жыл бұрын
I'll probably use this
@thechief_88
@thechief_88 3 жыл бұрын
A few thing you can do. - Utilize your catchers glove as an additional blocker. - Use multiple signs when calling pitch. - Only set up outside or inside when your pitcher has started his wind up or stride. - And as a catcher ALWAYS call the batter out on it. They’ll usually knock it off.
@kpg-uo1tm
@kpg-uo1tm 3 жыл бұрын
great video as always
@TheJeffro451
@TheJeffro451 11 ай бұрын
I think you can look where you want. If the catcher and the pitcher are going to conspire to “trick” the batter in order to gain an advantage, peeking inside should be the reasonable response.
@operationlmp1601
@operationlmp1601 3 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I remember I used to peak. It was automatic; I did it without really thinking. I wasn’t actually looking for the sign, though, rather for the catcher’s position to see if they were going for an outside or inside pitch. At the time I actually was not aware that it was typically frowned upon, but when I was eventually informed by a teammate, I immediately stopped. I don’t like to play dirty.
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Couple of clarifications. First of all, if the front foot crosses the rubber, they must pitch OR throw to second. You didn't mention that they may throw to second base. (NFHS). In OBR, I cannot find any reference to the rule you stated at all, so as far as I can tell, the crossing the rubber is legal anywhere OBR rules are used. Also, though the 45 degree line is not in the rule book, it is in the NCAA and MLB umpires manual. So it isn't totally mythical
@danielpicard2764
@danielpicard2764 3 жыл бұрын
my son is a catcher and he 1st experienced the "peeker" at age 10 in little league, his team made it to the state tournament and faced a team that was coached by a former MLB player. more than half that team would peak. my son had to learn to double set on every batter, when they kept peeking the pitcher would fast pitch them while they were peeking. The pitcher got called a couple times for the fast pitch but between that and the double set and being called out every time the peeked it seemed to stop the issue.
@stevehamman4465
@stevehamman4465 3 жыл бұрын
Peeking is not tolerated in the pros!!!
@louiealbarado3233
@louiealbarado3233 3 жыл бұрын
Hell, he wants to play with the Astro's
@stevehamman4465
@stevehamman4465 3 жыл бұрын
You don't see this in major league!!!! You can find out why on your own!!
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
The book Money Ball tells of A-Rod peeking.
@robxyz2926
@robxyz2926 3 жыл бұрын
I was a catcher in LL (40 years ago). We never had signs. Our pitchers could barely get the ball over the plate consistently.
@Tr1Dylan
@Tr1Dylan 3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@zachansen8293
@zachansen8293 10 ай бұрын
Honestly if I were an ump I'd just go talk to the other team and tell them to stop. And then if they don't stop you let what naturally happens happen.
@FireByte
@FireByte 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who doesn't mind the batter peaking? There is some easy counterplay to it so if they do it the pitcher/catcher can punish them for doing it.
@tylerdurden7387
@tylerdurden7387 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, that’s the old school way to deal with cheating batter peeking to steal signs, but in this politically correct world now, it won’t fly when he beans him to make him stop
@FireByte
@FireByte 3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerdurden7387 Players still get thrown at today
@fozzywxman
@fozzywxman 3 жыл бұрын
Peekers get chin music. #highheat
@davej3781
@davej3781 3 жыл бұрын
Any decent umpire will put a stop to that crap, regardless of whether it's explicitly illegal in the particular ruleset being used. "Batter! Eyes forward!"
@davej3781
@davej3781 3 жыл бұрын
I should clarify that I'm talking about a situation where a batter is being obvious about looking at the catcher's signs; that is clear unsportsmanlike conduct, dealing with it before it becomes a problem is preventative umpiring. If the batter is just taking a quick glance to see where the catcher is setting up that's of no concern to me, I'm not there to police the batter's eyeballs... in fact I'm assuming most batters can sense where the catcher is simply by listening and peripheral vision; good catcher mechanics resolves most of this.
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 3 жыл бұрын
That's perfectly allowed and part of the game. An umpire who calls the game differently for a team playing within the rules of the game should not umpire.
@davej3781
@davej3781 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaosawaits your screenname seems very appropriate to your answer. chaos indeed awaits.
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 3 жыл бұрын
@@davej3781 yes, dogs and cats... living together... mass hysteria
@davej3781
@davej3781 3 жыл бұрын
@@chaosawaits nice working with you, Dr. Venkman
@RomainVanAelst
@RomainVanAelst 3 жыл бұрын
Is peeking not allowed?
@MJHBaseball
@MJHBaseball 3 жыл бұрын
It violates an unwritten rule of baseball. It's bad form.
@RomainVanAelst
@RomainVanAelst 3 жыл бұрын
@@MJHBaseball Thanks for the answer. Luckly I'm not playing baseball, otherwise I would make it become a written rule. I'm the kind of person that would not care about that unwritten rule and just do it. Heck, I would make a special helmet with a rearview mirror so I can watch the pitcher and catcher at the same time.
@OriginalCoastalDistancing
@OriginalCoastalDistancing 4 ай бұрын
This does not need to be a 5 minute video. The way to stop your opponent from stealing signs was established long ago. You plunk the next batter.
@bluestar9463
@bluestar9463 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't they just have a teammate bang on a trash can? Heard it works well....
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 3 жыл бұрын
An umpire who calls a blatantly outside ball for a called strike 3 is far more bush league than the hitter who looked.
@jacobh674
@jacobh674 3 жыл бұрын
Keep telling yourself that. Break the rules and you get punished. Better than getting drilled in the ribs.
@chaosawaits
@chaosawaits 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobh674 if you think it should be against the rules, write it in the rulebook. Calling a ball as a strike at all, let alone as strike 3, is definitely in the rulebook as a no no. Let the other team take care of it. An umpire's job is to enforce the rules, not the unwritten rules.
@russs7574
@russs7574 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobh674 I get the sentiment, but umpires need to be above that sort of thing. Once an umpire establishes that he will purposely call strike three on a pitch that was clearly out of the strike zone, where does that end? How about if a team's manager is a pain in the ass? Is an umpire justified in using a bigger strike zone on his batters? Or is he justified on "squeezing" the zone on a whiny pitcher? There are any number of ways for the team in the field to deal with peekers, from the catcher setting up late, to sending fake signals, to drilling the batter in the ribs. "Punishing" the batter falls outside the umpire's job description...he needs to call the same strike zone for both teams. What the umpire CAN do is something like this. Batter peeks. Catcher calls him out. Batter peeks again. Batter gets drilled in the backside, or maybe the ribs. Manager protests, "Aren't you going to eject the pitcher?" Umpire responds, "Looked like the pitch just got away from him."
@tylerdurden7387
@tylerdurden7387 3 жыл бұрын
The cheating batter peeking back to steal signs from catcher is so bushleague.if they’re stealing signs from a dumb coach trying to send in the pitches to his catcher so be it.. but when the catcher is calling the game and batter is blatantly cheating by peeking back he needs a 4-seamer to backside…he will stop. That’s how it’s always been.
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