Warzone Mobile ?

​@@shivanshukumar5942who the hell buys a powerhouse of a tablet just to play mobile games😂

​​​​​@@byeolboiGamers (& Streamers)

@@shivanshukumar5942 "gamers"😂😂

iPad Pro best world graphics 8k future lol 🤣

FACTS

Got the M2 and will probably keep it for the next 5 years

@PastelLavenderYTstop begging for subs

Havent had an ipad since 2017. But if i had the m1 or m2 model i wouldnt upgrade unless u really appreciate OLED

​@PastelLavenderYTStop the cap they didn't say that your parents prolly ain't even alive. Stop begging for subscribers and earn em by making good content.

I replaced a MacBook with an iPad Pro. 3 months later, after frustration after frustration every single day, I switched back. Stay with a MacBook. If they release a MacBook with an iPad-like touch screen and adaptable touch OS interface, then that would be perfect. But until then, stay with a MacBook for serious work.

@@SunnyWinterz The iFold will probably be that, the hybrid fold device both macbook, ipad and dual screen in one, probably gonna cost more than the vision pro though.

@@hazori9551 The problem isn't the device. It is with the OS. If you had macOS on an iPad, most people wouldn't need to get a MacBook. And that's why, the iFold won't have the macOS either, otherwise the Macs won't sell, and Apple aren't stupid.

I use an iPad for Notes, YT and for Aviation - For office use, even managing Emails sucks in comparision with a Macbook (imo) 😬

Dude what’s a black guy? Antique farm equipment 😮

Agreed

Yea the iPad air is the sweet spot

Yes that's really true, unless you're an artist or creator

Only correct for non-Professional users.

How will they ever sell their mac books if the ipads can do the same thing? Brilliant.

ikr. The ipad itself is already thin so why make it more thin ? Like you said i prefer thicker and bigger battery if its a tablet.

More battery is always better

I legit laughed when Marques revealed the new thinness Apple and Samsung are having a dick measuring contest except in the opposite direction lmao

lol...Thin devices are always better than ugly design with lot of battery life!

everyone would except for tim

Deep thoughts

Next year they'll improve on the polishing cloth by making it out of graphene and charging 200 bucks for it.

😂😂😂😂😂

Not sure, it may be close between the cloth and the Apple card 😂

It’s about the thinnest „device“ (with a screen), as he said in his podcast

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thats never gonna happen.. even if apple released a complete garbage and all the reviewers completely lambasted it, the fanboys are still gonna line up at their store..

😂

@@michaelbalabala1076it’s a joke

😂😂😂

"and... that was on purpose" lmfaooooo

I thought it was funny, but his suggestions made no sense. Putting the pencil on the left or right side would block the speakers. Moving the pencil to the side would look dumb and off center. And he suggested moving the camera to the side, even though he complained in the past that the camera should be centered? I think Apple. Made the right decision with still having it on the top center. It just sucks that they didn’t do this earlier.

@@martijnvanderwal3976I do get the frustration but it’s been - what - 6 years since we’ve had a proper redesign? That’s a decent run when compared with any other tech company/product. And putting the pencil on the side is a stupid suggestion - every time you drop it in the bag, the pencil flips off? And imagine the memes had they put it off centre… They’ve made the right decision and it’s tough for those who really, really, really need that pencil, but have a recentish iPad Pro. But that happens with tech products. The good news is, with Apple, we can be confident that support for legacy products will outstrip the support offered by most competitors.

@@martijnvanderwal3976I thought he was saying move the pencil charging components to the side, not the camera

@@spookydooms no he did say that they could've moved the pencil to the right and the camera to the left

I get that but I think the other reviews are so similar because they said what it is when reviewing the same device (those more different are from artists)… here first the point seems to be different from other tech KZfaqrs, which makes sense for the KZfaqr I guess. Still a good review.

keep glazing

not really...who are u watching??

Nothing here was remotely new, unlike videos that were the first to break it down, first to look at nanotexture. All this video does it count to 5 and repeat the same things that were known right off the bat

⁠@@Andreasytac Not new, but it wasn't your typical KZfaq glazing / basically free marketing. He also did have some unique perspectives. I think the hate is towards the KZfaq dribble, if you see one vid it’s usually enough to ruin your taste for it.

thats not what humble is

Hence why he said "and"? Like A and B, not A and A. That would be a tautology.

Thank you for that comment, it is exactly how I feel. Yes humble is correct, he is not making the show too much bout himself and still enough to make him like a personal friend.

@@RealKyleSterling I hope you’re having a blessed and extremely amazing day. At first I was going to ask why you felt the need to be negative, when I clearly was listing two positive attributes that I appreciate. Then it clicked to me, you may be having a bad day or I could have simply read what you said from the wrong perspective. Either way, I’d rather bring more positivity into your day than add to or introduce the opposite. So with that being said, thank you for stopping to compliment, and I hope you enjoy his videos as much as I do.

​@@keithstrickland6311can't believe you take internet people too serious

You didn't understand which shadow he talked about. It's not the stroke shadow. There's a bigger shadow(virtual) of the whole pencil on the tablet

@@eftehassan9969 Oh wow, totally missed it. Yeah that’s kinda ridiculous.

Do we know why this is?

Chippy is like an anomaly, you're literally in the places where you'd least expect. Also side note; HELLO, can't wait for Terrarias final final final final update =P

@@jackpovah1744 Same as Europe. Some kind of EU regulation regarding waste. They lumbered the UK in with the EU.

Bet terraria runs at a blistering 60 fps on that ipad

Apple doesn’t consider the iPad to be a computer, so it can skimp on the plug.

I've been waiting to hear your take! If someone did not have either, would you recommend the M2 or M4?

I'm personally still rocking my pre-M chip ipad for art as well - the upgrades are not really anything to write home about. Yeah they're fancy, Im sure Procreate and other big art app companies will jump on those features for the new pencil, but ultimately they're just fancy little perks and not enough imo to justify getting an upgrade when you already have a totally serviceable device. Maybe if I was looking to upgrade anyway I'd get the fancy things, but it's just..... not really that important, yaknow. It's a lot of hype for something that really isnt helping artists anymore than previous generations already were.

Obviously, Apple now thinks the Ipad pro is only for a few rich "pro" people, not for everyone. For most of people, regular Ipad is more than enough, even no need for Ipad air.

Devils advocate here, Could it be that they had to adjust the magnets in the pencil to fit the new components?

Espcially hypocritcial regarding all the e-wast this will cause (once again!). Fortunately they omitted the plastic sticker this time around this should compensate

Android tablet apps are utterly *dog shit*. Also can’t reply to iMessages on that. Pass.

@@MikeLikesChannel ok mr. "android is bad because imessage isn't on there", go join the party next door

I have the 2013 version running a cyanogenmod and it still goes. 😂 lightweight, thin, solid screen and punchy speakers.

​@@MikeLikesChannel cmon get real. the fact that it doesn't reply to iMessages is an advantage.

Glad he inspired you to get off the mark.

Absolutely

1000%

Macbooks are macbooks, ipad cant replace it, gaming and creative apps can save ipads

The issue is contamination. They can’t sell a MacBook that is identical to the iPad Pro. Not at the same kind of price. Technically, it would be easy to put MacOS on an iPad Pro. Relatively. But it would be significantly slower and prone to switching problems of having iOS apps emulated and running OSX apps at the same time. Not 5%, more like 1-90% as the OS is doing different tasks. The issue is that MacOS is a lot more power-hungry. It is not designed to have apps in the background sleep in the same fashion as iOS. It’s more like a server OS, apps can run in the background because there is memory, storage and Swap. The storage would also need to be managed differently with SSD NAND, QLC and 3D TLC mix, just due to thermal and power consumption. And battery size/capacity. The core voltage would also need to be higher to accommodate peripherals and storage, which creates more heat and bulk, dealing with power management hardware. The iPad Pro can handle 1-2 devices, but a MacBook handles wider range and parallel devices, higher wattage, more bandwidth and more ports. Simply because it has a bigger battery and a wider bandwidth allocation. If they set up a partition and double the RAM to allow MacOS to run iPadOS… then you have a worse iPad, and a better laptop with a weaker battery. The iPad is designed for low power consumption. A laptop is designed on balance for performance and efficiency. The tech is feasibly there to achieve a hybrid iPad Pro but, the battery life is not.

Best argument for Ipad existance. Still don't know why is so hard to make crossover apps for two processors with the same architecture in a company that make both kernels.

I have the M1 and I had to go and check it out in the store and I surprisingly was not blown away. I’ll skip it.

A new iPad will only be worth if we get something to actually use the power. I'd love to run either more advanced apps (including an IDE with the ability to build and run code on the device itself) or even run a virtual machine. The iPad is such a gimped device.

I’m hopeful that WWDC drops a new OS that lets you basically start using it like a laptop. I’m still on a first gen iPad Pro with no need to upgrade whatsoever so long as it’s still exclusively for KZfaq, Discord, web surfing and notes.

@@99domini99 this! I was suprised how crippled iPadOS is for dev work especially with an M1

Except if you reaaaaally want the pencil

As an 13inch M1 ipad pro user since day 1, the biggest thing i want from it is to be lighter. It is a large device and get heavy to hold while watching videos and walking around, so anything to make it lighter makes it a product that easier to use for longer. I think thats what Apple is optimising for.

It’s very Apple. And I know it’s wild, but I feel like it could be thinner/lighter. I can hold it with one hand, but it’s still too heavy for that to be perfect. It shouldn’t come at the expense of battery life or performance though. So all weird choices.

My M4 11" as almost the same battery life as my m1 11" and i just wish they made it to the thickness of the camera bump and just gave us more battery. Really annoying.

@@taylor92493 but it didnt come at the expense of battery, its still the same battery life but now lighter. You can demand more battery life but they literally gave what you asked for, thinner/lighter without the expense of battery life

@@taylor92493 Well I believe there should be a lighter IPad, let’s call it the „Air“ and make that for your average customer that watches Netflix, reads emails and does other media consumption on it, and there should be a beefy iPad for the real professionals that work with it, have it nearly the entire time on their tables anyways and idk, the Ipad „pro“ would be a fitting name for that device I think. Sorry for the sarcasm

I was running the exact same iPad from day of release, upgraded to the new M4 iPad Pro on day one and honestly you’re not missing much 😂

still love my iPad Pro from 2018❤

Same here but mine is starting to slow down and I'm thinking about buying the new one. I also really want wireless charging!

it shows the lack of innovation

I just finished my comment and it’s almost exactly the same one. My 12.9’’ 2018 pro still holds up beautifully in all departments.

Needs all that power for genshin impact ☠️

​@@dervon9526 On the low

Sad but true

it made me realize i should just buy a surface pro lol and i can upgrade the ssd storage later but the ipad pro you cant upgrade

This is a tired cliché. Just because you don't have a use for it other than entertainment doesn't others don't! It's a great artist's canvas, prosumer video editing, audio and photo editing. The people who want one just for entertainment will buy iPad, mini and air!

2:57 ok seriously what is that black hole that is next to the camera and the LED flash (not the LiDAR in the top left but the thing in the bottom right)?

@@happybroski2112not a single reviewer talks about it so I think we’re supposed to just ignore it

@@happybroski2112it’s an ambient light sensor for the true tone flash’s new “ambient lighting capabilities” that it uses to remove the shadows when scanning documents.

@@happybroski2112 its the light sensor for scanning pdf's i think

@@aidenk9320 yeah, but you have mentioned 4 holes when in reality they are 5, what about the little black one on the down-right?

Yeah I just don’t see the upgrade I’m tempted with the trade in program but it’s still expensive

Same here. I was just looking into trading my M1 12.9 for the 13 but it’s still expensive. Best Buy gave me a higher trade in than apple. But the M1 still gets the work done.

You know what would be even more honest? Mkbhd dissing apple for the overvalued ipads but endorsing dbrand which sells overpriced expensive skins!

​@@greatbathindian that's kinda lame, but at least dbrand makes actual good products and are somewhat worth the premium

That's should no be a high mark. That should be the baseline. Good marks should go to interesting and poignant point of views

For me it should be a great upgrade and being that I’m an artist also makes doubly so.

@@greatbathindianI could see your point if skins were necessary. Being that they’re more of a customizable thing that you get for design purposes, their target audience is probably people who can afford to spend a little more.

That might actually be an issue with your iPad, mine doesn’t do that

You shouldn't be charging while in use. It can wear down one battery cell faster than the others in a process called Rapid Cycling. Also if it gets too hot it will slow down or even halt charging automatically to protect it from permanent and irreversible damage. Read the instructions on lithium ion batteries.

​@@hyperhippyhippohopper while plugged in, the device shouldn't be using the battery, only charging it. That shouldn't cause rapid cycling. ofc if the power brick is too weak, then the device might have to drain the battery to cover power spikes. which is why the brick should be powerful enough to power the device on its own

@@hyperhippyhippohopper what are you on about? They literally market these devices as usable with an external screen which charges them.

​@@hyperhippyhippohopperthey literally market the iPad as a portable Mac. Does your Mac battery die when it's plugged in. What a stupid take I mean you are apple user so I shouldn't be surprised

and that many views this late at night, astounding

133k Views already 😮

Yeah, I started watching him in 7th grade, and I started my full time career this week

97k views in 37 minutes now. It's amazing how quick his videos get views.

@@frosty_ryan Most of the world aren’t on the same Timezone(s) as the USA

True, from the side by side comparisons I've seen, it kills the saturation and sharpness. They should have done something like the S24 Ultra

That’s great an old iPad holds up so well. Even my iPad Pro 2017 is still good but I will appreciate the jump in features… I would like to save money but I know I will enjoy a lot the upgrade.

Watching this on my 2014 iPad Air. The battery is a bit tired, but my only reason to upgrade is creeping software incompatibility. The 2022 base iPad is looking good.

i just traded my 2018 12.9 pro in for the 13 m4, just because the battery was getting so bad, other than that it was great

Putting the pencil on one of the narrow sides would block the speakers

Huh, mine came without the brick. 13” 1 tb 🧐

There's absolutely no need to do this.

@@MWELASEDUBANDLELA I was just thinking mkbhd is really good at making entertaining videos out of even the smallest updates, but how much substance is actually in the video, and how much is extended and dragged on for watch time?

Thanks for saving my time

Wow thanks!

@@cherry.berry2sometimes I want the whole show. Sometimes, I just need the tl;dw. This was the perfect video to do this. Thank you. Please, keep it up. We need more choice about how our time is spent 👌🏻

"that was on purpose"

Same here😂. It caught me off guard, too me by surprise. I thought I was the only one

That's one thing apple gets right with there iPads and iPhones. My grandmothers iPhone 8 still runs as quick as it was when it was new. They do a good job keeping the majority of the performance close dispite the spec changes.

I bought an 11" iPad Pro back in 2018, still running strong as well. When I worked for Apple, I debated on a laptop or an iPad, well there were next to zero support calls for iPads, so I'm very glad on my choice. It only saddens me that there is no simple tool for generating SVGs. Rather maddening that unless I step up to some $160/year option, I can only create SVGS wither on my WINDOWS machine or some 3rd party website. For my uses, this is literally the ONLY thing that is preventing me from being 100% reliant on the iPad as my sole 3D printing modelling machine. Otherwise, for being 6 years old, the battery holds up ridiculously long time and unless I'm way from home, it's always plugged in.

Engineered obsilencence haters unite! ✊

I bought but thinking to return to do the same. I use it for art too. The M4 1TB 13" is snappy, some brush lag issues are gone but the 2018 had barely any issue to begin with. If working with video though, it is about x4 faster rendering and overall much smoother once you begin piling on effects in Davinci 3D Nomad you will be able to subdivide models to levels were you can get realistic pores on an "average properly topologized head bust sculpt" with the m4 vs being stuck around 5 with 2018 1TB (extra ram in this model too) which is good but still would need a bit more for realism and stability. I'll probably return and will wait to see WDC. Hopefully there will be more incentive keep by then. I can't justify the value with the price $2600USD-ish (tablet+pen+keyboard) It makes more sense to use desktop tools with their entry level macbooks using the 2018 with sidecar (which works extremely well now, lag was reduced significantly). It's Apples plan make this the option, annoyed but always how they do business.

I got a refurbished 2018 ipad pro back in 2019 and it still feels incredibly nice to use. It helps that I don't use intensive creative apps much but whenever I dabble the performance is great. I won't be surprised if the thing is still going strong 5 years from now while they put out the M10 or whatever.

But for now there's only haptics and the hover right? I don't have access to any of the new procreate roll and squeeze features that have been demoed and its not even announced when they will release.

What have you drawn?

I tried the same combo in a store the other day. You're right. New pencil is superb. Squeezing it reminds me of the haptics on the AirPod stalks.

Ok buddy

If you're an artist, shouldn't you have maxed out on like the best version of the M4 with the Nano texture. But that would have been like $4,000 or something lol

This is what prevents me from relying upon an iPad as a drawing device.

@@TomJones-tx7pb What I don't like is that the Apple Pencil doesn't work if it's not paired. Every now and then my Apple Pencil would disconnect from my iPad Pro M2 while I was drawing and stop working until it paired again. I prefer the way on the Microsoft Surface that the Surface Pen can still draw while not paired, it only needs to be paired to use the buttons.

MKBHD failed to mention that the new Apple Pencil Pro also works on the new more affordable iPad Air M2. This would still require an upgrade, but you don't have to buy the highest-end iPad to use the new pencil features if you are an artist and you would benefit from those features.

You have to accept that if you work on apple, you will always, always be milked to the max. It's their DNA. Their valuation on wall street is such because of that.

This is exactly why Marques' conspiracy theory makes no sense-any Pencil sales Apple gains from moving the magnets are more than offset by the sales they would have gotten if they didn't have to do it. *Tons* of people would have spent $129 on the Pencil Pro for their older iPads, but almost nobody is going to spend $1,000+ on a new iPad just to get the Pencil Pro.

agree. coz he can now but them without relying to sponsorships so he can say more unbiased reviews. he's also more on apple user so he is much accustomed to its ecosystem so he can discuss its pros, cons and his disappointments.

Sooo he sincerely thinks there is no real need for me to buy a new iPad, yet for “some” reason he’s urging me to purchase a leather-skinned iPad case. Honestly???🙄🤷🏾

@@Tonabillity he sad he is using M1 iPad himself and no need to upgrade for to M4, and he recommended people to buy if have older iPad models. Which all makes sense, also the leather skin as you've seen is not only for M4 but any iPad/iPhone as well - just general ad that's added to the video.

@@DEVICMedia I know. I have no need to buy the new iPad if I already own a recent one. However I should buy a new leather iPad case for Reasons 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@DEVICMedia Actually, I would recommend people waiting for WWDC before using your viewer clout to recommend keeping the M1 over the M4. The M4 has serious upgrades if you do the tests, and of course, if AI is BIG, then the M4 will be a no-brainer upgrade for real professionals (not people who buy the Pro to get the luxury features). But after WWDC, he can do an "I was wrong" M4 video!

Yeahhh there's no false sense of excitement or hyping boring features.

@@Jarvis2077I found these “honest” reviews weird because I loved all the little upgrades. I was expecting much less. So it chokes me (a bit) the negativity about what I found out to be so cool.

Because he is now so big that they can't just cancel him. There was even recent fiasco about Marques about killing a product AI Pin from Humane. It was only because he was honest in his review.

Ya, like a whole week, how did you survive!?