Exactly, so true

Disney is like the Sears of animation, the unstoppable juggernaut turned emaciated fossil.

I'm thinking Disney needs to be in dire straights to produce worthwhile content

Tbh, I'm starting to think the Golden Age of Disney was an anomaly and the *truth* of Disney is mediocrity.

​@@Pleurigloss I'd definitely say not mediocre since the Renaissance was truly a massive success and a global influence, but the way they handle situations after their best times is truly peak mediocrity

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I hate that idiot business men are allowed to run creative companies. I'm glad they're flopping hard

u need to replace him

When I say I’m only eager (albeit cautiously) for the potential expanded worldbuilding, but that’s it…

When I worked in animation, that was legit how the producers thought. They'd be like "Oh, Frozen was a hit, let's make an ice princess movie because the people are into that now!" Just the most superficial reasons. I never understood it. The last time that producer mindset benefitted us though is when Spiderverse droppes and now they all say "People want stylized movies!" And like.... You're still wrong but at least this time it let us to artistic expression we have bee craving for years 😂

like the script writers are being forced to chuck out so many films at once that they can't elaborate and improve their projects.

Yea

They need to go head and give Moana a man idk what they so scared of no one has an issue with the princesses in movies having a prince we have an issue when they are supposed to just always be the savior let the girls be an equal and still have a prince, kinda like little mermaid live action showed

I for one liked Frozen 2, but I can't see myself saying the same for Moana 2- for me the 1st Moana ended things quite beautifully.

​@@Blackgirltries while i agree that it would be great to see a classic Disney couple again. Moana doesn't really need to have a boyfriend in the sequel, her story wasn't about romance and i doubt that giving her a romantic partner would help the sequel, unless they do an EXELENT job at developing the couple. Moana is one of those stories that really doesn't need romance.

fr its perfect as is

Right It’s such an good movie and as much as I would love to see Moana character grow like how they did with Elsa and Anna I don’t think it’s gonna be as good telling from the Disney films now😭

@@imanipastel3181 I'm sorry but Frozen 2 was mid. Like the part before they went inside the forest was fine, but when the finally went inside, it came crashing down. Show Yourself and The Next Right Thing are AMAZINGLY beautiful songs though

@@ChrisIsAPotato I personally prefer Frozen 2 to the first one, it has such a beautiful story and it perfectly concluded Anna and Elsa's story.

But i would love it tbh. If theres more banger songs that is

This is more sad and desperate than the "Dark Age" of Disney between 1970-1988 when the company was attempting and flopping hard after the creator Walt Disney died

Disney should’ve been exploring adult animation alongside the kids animation!

@@samtbenjamin I agree, even though they were releasing fewer movies during that time frame than today at least a lot of those movies were new, original ideas (Winnie the Pooh being a partial exception since it included shorts made in the 60s) even if some of them were pretty subpar by their standards at the time. Nowadays it seems like they've entered a doom loop where their original movies started sucking so now they're going to rely even more on sequels which never live up to the originals, as Ralph Breaks The Internet and Frozen 2 demonstrate. Encanto is looking more and more like a lucky fluke, a "miracle" if you will.

It takes 6 years to plan a movie so this masterpiece is the result of the former ceo

@@samtbenjamin Agreed. I find the films that came out during Disney's 1st "Dark Age" still being a notch above what they've been churning out since 2020. Frozen 2 was the last great creation of the so-called Disney 'Renaissance'.

And with that we should think about the meaning of this; What will happen if in the future, Walt Disney company shuts down and declares bankruptcy? What will that mean for the world, that another studio will take it’s place? That the animated world will be free of the “tyrants”? I think many people don’t stop to think about that because they only want to se a “tyrant” fall and then celebrate without thinking about tomorrow.

Disney also sucks at marketing anime unless said anime is based on Disney’s more popular I.P.

Like I had hopes after Encanto was released but then everything just came tumbling down 😭😭

All of that is going to change. I'm not going to let Disney be this way for much long. I'm going to get a job at Disney as a 2-d artist and create new animated masterpieces with refreshing characters. Just you wait and see! Disney's demise will NOT be permanent!

@@annien.1727 you sure?

Please don’t say that out loud. It might come true! We’re entering the Straight to DVD Sequel age! But it’s longer because between this and the dang Live Action remakes, the IP is being updated and people who don’t know anything about this, because why would they, they got lives, just goes to them because it’s entertainment.

That’s like a top 3 Disney movie for me noooo 😭

UNCANNY VALLEY NICK WILDE LET’S GO BABYYYYY

Animal cops?

Furries

and yet he was right about the forgetting part, i didn’t even remember that new version of mary poppins until reading this comment

That’s the problem when the new people in charge don’t look at history and whatever old leaders have decided, tought etc. They just wanna do what they wanna do, if they think it benefits them.

Sequels & reboots can & will turn a profit; but that’s exactly the point, they’re so forgettable. It’s like the fast food of film- good while you’re watching, but completely disregardable when you’ve finished it.

​@@tacocat9844Well, it was still pretty decent as a sequel, at least! Not too bad!

@@tacocat9844 Hell the only reason I remember it (sometimes) is because of my massive hatred for Lin Manuel Miranda, and the fact that he was IN that movie. Bro is an embarrassment. I never understood his popularity.

I loved soul it’s one if my favourite movies.

I feel these three being sent directly to Disney + reflects the lack of respect Disney has for Pixar. Soul,I let it pass because COVID;but Luca and Turning Red should have had a theatrical release,there is no excuses,especially because Encanto was on theaters

soul has such a deep message, it’s sad looking back that it went straight to streaming and didn’t get the moment it deserved.

I still feel like turning red is SUCH a good film, it's the only disney animated movie released in the last ~7 years that I've returned to for rewatches. Legit wish it could've been more of a mainstream success than it was, ppl loved it but it wasn't a Phenomenon the way that a movie like Moana had been.

So all three of these movies are actually getting theatrical releases now in some theaters!! Soul happened last month, turning red is this month and Luca is next month I think. Disney has just been being Disney and not promoting these re-releases at ALL unfortunately. I never finished turning red, but yeah, all three of these movies are unique and deserve wayyyyy more credit.

I believe he's 99% responsible for all these flops.

The company needs to oust him. I highly doubt any of the big wigs are making money from what he's been doing. What's the point of keeping him around at this point?

Disney literally lost 2 billion dollars last year and he is still here.. 😂😂

He came back to fix things after Bob Chapek

@@ajax4887 Perhaps, but he doesn't appear to be very successful at fixing anything Chapek left behind!

If I didn't know any better, I'd say that something happened during the development of Toy Story 4, Ralph 2, and Frozen 2 that resulted in this mess we see today. I mean all three movies ended with the very bad in hindsight "everybody separates" ending.

@@bananarama1425 i'm still confused about toy story. i saw toy story 3 and it felt like the end. it was emotional. even my dad was crying in that one and he never cries in movies. it felt complete and beautiful. a love letter to over a decade of a wonderful story. and then toy story 4 just seemed to pop up out of nowhere. to me, that was the beginning of the end. because we'd already said goodbye to toy story. we'd had our beautiful ending. why did they have to go and drag it out even more? it felt...like we'd been cheated as an audience. like the third one felt so final and was so emotional. it felt like we'd said goodbye. then here they come popping back in with yet another one no one asked for. to me, that was the start of the downfall.

​@@bananarama1425 from the frozen 2 documentary i think it's both creating sequels without a clear purpose and crunching production to fit a marketable time, which is why I'm dreading moana 2

Encanto is the only saving grace of the Capitalist Era we are in now.

Encanto was so good, I'm shocked it even came from this era of Disney

Glad to know I'm not alone haha - King of Thieves was a bop and the series actually was pretty cool lol

They will. I'll make sure they will once I get a job at Disney.

omg so my kid self wasnt crazy for liking this movie cause i’d been nervous to rewatch as i have little faith in these sequels. I only rlly rewatch cinderella 3 ofc and occasionally the little mermaid 3 cause it’s just kinda fun. i also really used to like simba’s pride as a kid tho i didn’t like to say it because i didnt wanna let the adults know i liked romance 💀 but yeah i wouldn’t say just yet that disney doesn’t make sequels like they used to. in the middle of many the direct to video sequels they made, very few are known to be good and have rewatchability and those are the once-in-a-blue-moon releases. most of these new sequels’ quality is on par with the average direct to video release. i’m still hoping that all these crappy sequels means that we have yet to reach our “blue moon” but at this rate i can’t be sure we’ll ever make it. i genuinely cannot excuse these live action remakes though. just taking the magic outta beloved titles for absolutely no good reason.

i think a lot of direct to dvd sequels slaps but i saw a bunch of them in the middle of the night on disney channel

@@renoirrrHaha, I was the kid that actually preferred the Lion King 2 over the original! 😆

You are right. Disney is just crap people keep on buying for some reason or hoping it will be good at some point. They'll keep shoving shit up people's throats if that still keeps the cash rivers coming. My personal solution is to look elsewhere into actual good animated movies and series, and those actually do come out every year... They just don't come from Disney anymore.

I don't know, I feel like they do know how to make stuff that people will watch. It still breakes my heart how much money the remake of the Lion King made, when it's hard to think of a more souless movie. I know that was some time ago, but seeing the reaction to the announcments of Moana 2 and Toy Story 5 and the others, there is a bunch of people who are exited. I feel like the only way get them to switch strategy is for Fronzen 3 to flop really badly, but I don't think it will. It's sad but sequels are considerd save for a reason.

Please leave China out of this... But I do agree with the rest of your opinion.

Amazingly well put

@@DC-bg5vy why? did China suddenly become a bastion of LGBTQ+ rights and freedoms I somehow missed? lol

I think you’re right, he seemed to be the one who made sure we would get a Renaissance when we did. Now it seems like there’s no one there willing to keep that creative flame alive.

​@@colbystearns5066I disagree

Amen

What?No

I agree actually.

That requires vision, risks, and placing the art before...THE MESSAGE.

@@zanitzeukeni mean messages and themes are also important for good story telling? u can’t toss out the theme of every animated movie or u just have nothing lol

@@lord_ozymandias That's literally not what I said. Learn how to read and try again.

@@zanitzeuken … ok by “the message” then do u mean like. ur one of those “woke leftist propaganda messaging in our media” weirdos? because that is the only other way to read ur msg and i was trying to be optimistic and assume the best of you as a person

@@lord_ozymandias Then I apologize. I mad. And yes. As you are aware, politics will always tint the art of the time, but today our art has become government propaganda.

😂😂

“Updated for a modern audience!”

The fact that I read it in her voice lol..

i think encanto would actually be aided by a tv series, since theres so many characters with tons of room for exploration, but i have no clue what the plot could be for a film. you could make tons and tons of short plots abt family antics, but not a long movie plot

I think they can do something interesting exploring polynesian mythology; the problem is more about if they care enough to put the creativity and effort needed to do it justice

​@@Mars-dw2zcmost likely to be a movie in the style of Cinderella 2 where the characters remember some stories as a framing device. Is a very silly type of narrative but I think they would choose it

They could do Maui's death myth. Though that myth is real weird.

Gosh, just don’t watch it then and grow up. I don’t understand how it impacts u if u still have the first encanto to enjoy. I don’t really care about the sequels Disney makes and if I like them, I like them.

You’re right, when it comes to music Disney needs more “Beauty and the Beast” and less “Wish.”

@@colbystearns5066what, you don’t like BUM BUM BUM BUM - *yEAh!* 😔 /joke

just rewatched Hunchback and OMG the soundtrack is so beautiful and evocative. i miss that level of songwriting.

In what areas did you work for Disney?

That's NOT gonna stop me from getting a job at Disney. I'm NOT going to let Disney die like this!😡You may have given up, but I'm not gonna give up that easily. I'm gonna march over to Disney and help get the company back on its feet. I've got lots of creative new ideas that will one day be fantastic blockbuster Disney movies. If the higher-ups refuse to listen, then I'll MAKE them listen. I'm too stubborn to give up on what I love so easily.

@@annien.1727pls say sike lmao

@@annien.1727 Can I make the sugestion that you start your own company and use those ideas for that instead? You won't have executives to bash you down then

@@theautisticintrovertedluca3634 No way. Like I said, I'm not going to let Disney die off. I want to help Disney get back on its feet, and that's EXACTLY what I'm going to do. I don't care if some empty-minded executives try to bash me down, I'm just as stubborn as they are!

Exactly. You have to be very unhappy to point to any of these things as the source of their downgrade. It's time for diverse stories but most importantly well done diverse stories.

Yes, BUT just replacing old, well known characters with more diverse actors is not true diversity either. There are thousand of fairytales and stories across all of Africa for example. Why not make movie about those? I would totally watch something like that. Something ACTUALLY diverse and new.

Wholeheartedly agreed. The whole "go woke, go broke" narrative from conservatives is just annoying and blatantly wrong. Just look at Barbie it made over a billion and people still say "wokeness" ruins movies - if anything corporate greed and business executive micromanaging ruins movies not inclusiveness

@@HK23783 yeah, the way disney does it just seems like putting black actors on the chopping block for the sake of generating headlines. they get all the free marketing of having "black xyz" then turn a blind eye to the racism the actors suffer. then actual criticisms of the movies are drowned out by ppl going "buhh woke brainwashing"

​@@caesar98Don't forget the Spider-Verse movies.

I thought the same thing

Because the water animation doesn't look as good as the first movie.

@@abbeyBominable123I can’t believe that’s there teaser for something this year, it looks unrendered 😢

Well that’s what you get when you hire for DEI requirements instead of for actual talent, skill, or actual ability. You get woke stories and poor quality.

@@meganjaime7728 what's woke got to do with it? Other studios managed to make movies that are much more "woke" but are actually great (Nimona, Arcane, etc.) Disney is cowardly and money-hungry, that's what's causing this streak of bad products.

I believe that was Michael Eisner who said this, but I'm sure the sentiment still applies to Bob Iger also.

Wow. Ok Bob, good luck losing money because no one likes your art. Funny how that works 😂

@colbystearns5066 My mistake, eisner said them, Bob Iger is documented as using them as his guiding principle

The difference is when Eisner had crowds of people who screamed at him to stop, he actually stopped. Because he knew if the crowd was angry, no money would come from it. And it didn't have to be a large crowd. Iger and Chapek (both from the same thought school) have decided they need X amount of people to complain before they act on something and change it. They want as much money as possible and hatewatching is still watching. They don't care. They want your money. Any publicity is money to them. Eisner is still a chump. Eisner still sucks. Eisner still knew that if you had at least ten people grumbling, that represented enough people to indicate he should do something before ten became ten thousand. Iger and Chapek know that the climate of human beings have changed. We won't do anything to stop them. We have apathy too badly and we will not actually boycott any of these creations. When it comes to the live actions, despite us as a whole finding them vapid and uninspired, we'll go see them to support the WOC actresses. While they do deserve our support because of the hate they're getting? You can do that without seeing the movie or buying the merchandise. You can give support without money. Close your wallets and if Disney sends you a survey or anything to ask why you're not buying... Tell them how unoriginal they are, how the sequels are not your Disney, and the remakes aren't "magical". That's the only way to get them to change.

That’s not the full quote. Eisner actually said: “We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make a statement. But to make money, it is often important to make history, to make art, or to make some significant statement. We must always make entertaining movies, and, if we make entertaining movies, at times, we will reliably make history, art, a statement or all three. We cannot expect numerous hits, but if every film has an original and imaginative concept, then we can be confident that something will break through.” There’s plenty to criticise Michael Eisner for, but I’d say the the current Disney ethos - making money irrespective of quality - it pretty antithetical to Eisner’s philosophy as expressed above.

Yep, it's deeply sobering that the marketing of movies these days is consistently better than the screenwriting itself!

My mom went to see the live action Aladdin because she wanted to relive the glory days of watching the original in theaters, so textbook nostalgia case. God, I wish I could’ve also seen the original in theaters. 😭

unless they do both, which I wouldn't put past them. Live action might get delayed but it's coming

The live action remake is still slated to come out, so they're both happening lol. Just like they vaguely announced the Frozen live action is in the works some months ago and we also have Frozen 3 coming.

My thought exactly! Poor Atlantis deserved better, but I thought that Disney would remember this example like we do.

​@@iluvdrakeandjosh And don't forget we also got Frozen 4 confirmed even before we get any official teasers or trailers for Frozen 3 XD

The matter of fact is that we don’t need a Moana remake though, the movie is fine as it is

With how terrible wish was, i genuinely can’t be surprised if it was

@@clownrat5759 It's another AI tool called ScriptBot or something like that. It's not ChatGPT, but it's damn close.

Yeah, I’m wondering why every time someone brings that up, it’s ignored.

But it's fun to point out that Hollywood in general is lacking in creativity this times. Just in 2024 we will have more sequels than originals from the big studios (Beetlejuice 2, Gladiator 2, Joker 2, Moana 2, Inside Out 2, Quiet Place 3, The Lion King 2 live action...)

Think it’s mostly because this is a “dark era” that is overwhelmingly corporate. In the past, you could tell there was some effort, and when a good idea came it was attempted. Compare to now where the ONLY focus is profit, and higher ups are shutting down ideas that are creatively innovative

@@theguivrelord, help us from sequels. Just make them all tv series.

@@book-hoarder5664 Fr the other dark eras actually have a lot of my favorite disney movies (especially the Bronze Age) but this one kinda just sucks. Disney can’t just stick to the same formula forever and hope it works. I still have hope for their future movies and the creative people getting held back by financial decisions.

I agree.

Another Disney dark age

yes absolutely!! i love that movie

I agree! Unfortunately I don’t the think that will happen until Bob leaves the company since he cancelled the hunchback live action remake bc he “didn’t like the story of the original”

Capitalism? what the stupid are you talking about. They tried to manipulate and lecture the audience…. not serve them. They received massive amounts of leftists ESG money, allowing them to ignore capitalism, and promote their political agenda and societal manipulation. Its 180 degrees opposite of capitalism. It couldnt be farther apart from capitalism.

Saturation levels...maximized.

the way they wanted that movie to be more incisive about colonialism and how horrible the arendelle kingdom treated the northuldra but disney just didnt let them explore that aspect more bc "children were bored in the test screenings" like arent your movies meant to the whole family? why youre dumbing down things just to some ipad obssesed gen alpha kids who arent being raised on having actual media literacy would understand

@@mayruuhMaybe they thought it would be too similar to Pocahontas perhaps? Though maybe 24 years later they could’ve come up with something more nuanced than that movie if given the chance. In any case, it seems like Disney’s forgotten how to make movies that appeal to the whole family, both kids AND adults, and are focusing on just the kids instead. Bob Chapek’s comments about animation are especially telling of the company’s mindset today.

At this point art as we know it is dead. Unfortunately.

i mean, i think it's a call to support studios who are willing to do something different with the medium, like sony with spiderverse or netflix with mitchell vs the machines and nimona

⁠@@Feliciathedoll meh, I disagree. The art of animation may seem dead because of Disney. But there’s also some incredible works of art produced recently in the animation domain, such as Puss in Boots 2 and the Spiderverse films. There are also so many Indy artists out there working hard to get noticed, working on small budgets and producing masterpieces. If we get pessimistic, we give up, and allow greed to take over art. Mainstream animation might suck rn, but there’s so much more out there.

@@Feliciathedollit absolutely isn’t lol, but mainstream big budget stuff for sure has taken a massive downturn thanks to capitalism

@@Feliciathedolllmao just because you see big companies take huge dips doesn’t mean actual art and real artists are “dead”.

they chase away their talented animators (qualitly) because they were white… and hired a bunch (quantity) of activists. So…. they have no choice but quantity over quality now.

Because upsetting people is actually one way of doing marketing. He's just keeping their names out there with lies and disappointment. Who would even know that Moana 2 is coming if it wasn't for the crap marketing and fake promises and critics coming out to talk about it? Not me. He will keep doing shit because people like to eat shit and will keep throwing money on them. Until revenue actually takes a dip they will keep doing what they do and make the money flow with low cheap effort. That's late stage capitalism and we're all in to watch that shit unless people forget Disney and actually look up to brilliant animated movies that are coming out every year and aren't just some crap Disney shits out of the gutter.

The problem is that animated movies take years to be made, whatever comes out this year has already been in production for a long while. It's a shame because maybe they learned their lesson, that making unoriginal slop won't attract audiences, but we won't see a change for some time

Honestly I think red riding hood and Goldilocks have potential. Maybe for Goldilocks they could have it that she stumbles across and family who were cursed and turned into bears and she tries to break the curse. IDK, that's just what I thought

i'm still sad they cancelled gigantic :(

they could also do fairy tales from cultures other than just western ones. there are literally countless tales from all over the world they could take inspiration from and it could be really neat to see them adapt a more obscure fairy tale and introduce it to the public but it's like they don't even bother to look beyond the already famous ones 😪

@@fusetunes me too.

Also they can write about fairy tales from other cultures too

How was Wish like Frozen?

Bro, we're getting Frozen 3 and 4, it's Joever.

I didn’t even know Wish was out🥲

​@@genevieveowusu885 Because both movies had better stories in storyboard than the actual movies

​@@AmericaFuckYeah4that's true of Wish and Frozen 2 but not Frozen

It’s just bad story telling Disney has always been woke lol

Even Encanto had no marketing. I only got ads about the movie the week it was scheduled to drop in theaters. The ads were also only like 30 seconds long.

I'll be real with you, Strange World is terrible. I give every Disney movie a fair chance because animation deserves it even more so. It's yet another Journey to the Center of the Earth story with absolutely no charm or heart. The twist is mildly interesting but all I did was sit there the entire time and go "When you did Atlantis you failed because of an overbloated but interesting cast." Which let's be honest. Think of Atlantis. If you can't remember names, you remember their personalities and their character designs. Strange World doesn't even have that but they have a cute gooey mascot. They still have too many characters I can't keep track of but at least in Atlantis, I wanted more. In here, I'm irritated by the presence of these characters who roll in out of nowhere and go "MEMBA ME? SO WE GONNA DO THIS LOL YEAH YOUR DAD GOT LOST DOWN HERE HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE TRAUMA!" And it becomes a family affair which is the only tolerable part of the storyline. The problem is we go back and forth on potential resolutions to family drama and because the other half is this uninteresting expedition cast and we have to actually move the plot along, there's no sign of potentially resolving any family differences or drama. BUT THE MOM IS COOL THOUGH. It's a 2/5. It's not even made for children in mind, it's absolutely for middle schoolers and I don't mean that for the queer topics because it's very much blink and you miss it. It's very shallow and barely there. You'd forget it. Nah that's the science which while cool and very much grounded in real life, it may not feel fun for everyone watching because the science gets absolutely beaten into you in a few scenes. And once you see some of the more fun science things, it does spoil the movie. As someone who really doesn't like Atlantis, watch Atlantis instead.

strange worlds was garbage, literally just an Avatar clone

I think I am the only person who actually enjoyed Strange World haha. Granted, the characters and storyline were forgettable. (I actually had completely forgotten about the gooey thing! Which is not a good sign) But the world-building was absolutely gorgeous. As soon as I saw it I realised [spoiler] and my fiancé and I had fun pointing out all the ways the different things were [spoiler] You just know they had some amazing concept art. I'm an artist though, so that is a massive draw for me. It deserved much better storytelling and characters. The heart of the movie was the world itself. But you can't make a hit movie on that alone

The story is never the damn issue. Any writer can pitch anything to the CEOs of Disney, and they can tear it to pieces in order to be marketable. Please stop blaming the writers.

I'm a writer, and I'm very passionate about my work. Once I get a job at Disney, I'll change things for the better as a writer/2-d artist! Disney will make amazing films again, I'll make sure that that happens!✊🏻

@@annien.1727 Get ready to be eaten up by the executives then.

And the family in WISH is clearly deeply inspired by the seven dwarfs ... the movie could have been successful if they made the right decisions and with fresh ideas and not reusing what's already been done before.

@@annien.1727 I'm pretty sure someone's gonna ruin that at some point... but I believe in you, just not in Disney Company anymore

Hercules 2, Cinderella 2 and 3, Mulan 2, Lady and Tramp 2, 102 dalmations, Little mermaid 2, Peter Pan 2, Jungle Book 2. My god they did them all!

Omg I think I vaguely remember hearing about the cancellation of Newt too. That was so long ago, huh

thats bc those movies you like are Pixar... completely different company, creative teams, and goals

@@realmothchu no, I know it's Pixar; but they're the ones she specifically lists as formulaic and uninspired in the video. Which I have to disagree with. They're not as ambitious as, like, WALL-E, but they're still decent films with a lot of care that was put into them.

the animated spin off tv shows for disney movies like the little mermaid, aladdin, hercules, the emperor's new school, and more recently the tangled animated series, are actually pretty good bc actual passionate creators are making sure they can make sequel adventures without all the corporate meddling official sequels like wreck it ralph 2, frozen 2 and now moana 2 get. the main studio is going throught some BIG issues bc they cant make a good movie anymore bc the company keeps rushing them and interfering with stories which initially had good ideas (like wish with the starboy and asha being a couple, alongside the villain couple and a few more ideas that if they actually had time to mature them more would turn up to be great)

I am sure GameFreak is similar to it. It has been milking Pokémon so much and so dry that I left it behind.

Wish WAS going to be 2D. disney even had a 2D animation training program with the intention of building a 2D animation team. but for whatever reason all those people were let go and they completely changed directions with Wish.

even with the straight to dvd sequels we had actually good ones like cinderella 3 and aladdin and the king of thieves. i feel like those movies with a bigger animation budget and a more concisive story would be great bc they actually play with some neat concepts and explore more of the world and characters. cinderella 3 was great for fleshing out the characters more, like making cinderella be more present in her own story (unlike the previous movie which was like... too much mice chase scenes) and fight for the happy ending that her abusive stepmother stole from her, the prince has an actual personality and he's actually pretty funny, anastasia got character development, we saw how cruel lady tremaine can get... and this movie has STAKES oh my god. aladdin 3 had some issues (too much disney/pop culture references coming from the genie, jasmine basically doing nothing the entire movie), but we actually get some insight into aladdin's backstory, his father, and a good adventure searching for the hand of midas.

@@mayruuhAbsolutely agree with you on Cinderella 3. I watched it as an adult and enjoyed the hell out of it. Aladdin: King of Thieves was also one of my favs growing up. I really enjoyed the way they continued the stories as well. That's why I feel like a sequel should be made only if it truly does justice to the original.

The Rescuers was conceived as a three part movie but it ended at two due to our loss of many of the cast, Miss Bianca in particular. What COULD have been is heartbreaking because the books have a wealth of small ideas to launch to bigger ones. And to be fair, The Rescuers and The Rescuers Down Under are the only movies I accept from Disney as done well for sequels. While the Aladdin straight to VHS movie are fun, they are fun and nothing else. The Rescuers had a reason for them both to be there.

" a death spiral where their original movies started sucking and underperforming," what are you talking about? Encanto was an amazing film, you're all just too blinded by rage and nostalgia to appreciate it

@@kamilbidzinski475 tbf i think this is just a generalized statement- also i didn't care for encanto myself, and it was solely because of lin's music. i don't like his style at all so the fact that so much of the film was centered on it made it a hard watch :(

@@kamilbidzinski475 Encanto is the exception, not the rule.

But Disney World is replacing a bunch of attractions with Profitable IP(TM) overlays and teasing "blue sky" projects that will not actually happen, which is totally a worthy response to a brand new theme park with a clear opening date! /s

Don't be so rosy about Uni. They'll cancel half the things they promised, too. If not canceled, scaled back and put on screens as a "compromise" for over spending. Universal isn't your friend either and they donate to Republicans who want to kill you. They are never a worthy comparison. All entertainment sucks, cuts corners, and abuses all of their staff.

Makes me glad Steamboat Willie finally entered the public domain this year, knowing Disney wouldn't be able to outrun the expiration of their copyright forever. We're about to see even more of their stuff enter the public domain in the coming years, like the Silly Symphonies shorts and even their version of Snow White. ;)

Not in a few years, but soon. I'll change Disney for the better once I get a job at its animation studio. I'll make new amazing films that'll become blockbusters.

now, if only they *kept disney channel* so those tv series CAN be profitable :D

@@liz_violet I'm sorry, could you explain that? As far as I know, Disney's TV channels are still active and making new stuff. Not quite sure what you're talking about.

@@crimsong8068If they are still active, they’re beyond unused. Disney has given up on any other streaming or tv services in place of Disney +

Well, Disney wouldn’t actually *try,* we know that

That would be so cool, perfect for a musical! Also an ancient Mayan story or African tribe story. I don't count lion King as an African story because its just about animals and imperialism 😂

!!! This! Yes! For real, if someone could adapt Indian folktales into a screenplay, I would watch. There's so much to choose from! Or dig into African folktales! Anyone who knows the Gargoyles TV series has at least HEARD of Anasazi the Spider. That could be interesting.

They tried 1 movie (Princess and the Frog) which didn't sell overwhelmingly well, so they immediately gave up.

​​@@chloeep9329As a kid, there were a few things about Princess and the Frog that I didn't care for. The first being that I was expecting to get more screentime of Tiana as a human, not a frog. For some reason that just didn't appeal to me very much. The second issue I had with it was that creepy shadow man/witch doctor guy. He scared the crap outta me. I didn't wanna watch any of his scenes. If it hadn't been for those two issues, I probably would've watched Princess and the Frog a lot more as a kid.

Because they don’t care nowadays,audience feedback is just a afterthought they want to do things there way and Bob has always been a egotistical a hole who needed more corporate powerful people to keep him in check but since most of them are gone Bob is in charge and nobody at the studios has the guts to stand up to him,unless that dude dies from a stroke or something cause he’s likely not going to back off Disney is doomed.

Because we're actually a very small group and the majority of people do want these things. Disney only responds if you hurt their bottom line with a message that you're not accepting any of this. When the straight to VHS stuff got worse and worse, they stopped making it. Because people didn't buy it anymore. If you stopped seeing the remakes and stopped your friends from seeing it, we'd get things done. No more remakes. No more sequels. No more nothing. But until you start costing them money for making sequels and remakes, you're actually not giving them criticism at all.

Sequel Age, Recycled Age, Milking Old Franchises Age...it's crazy the extent to which the slate of future movies is all just sequels. And there's not much they can do to change it at this point because animated movies take so long to make, even if they realize it's a mistake by the end of the year it will be too late.