We've got a load for it now too! 87 grain vmax over 40.5 grains of CFE223. Chronograph reads 3050 out of the short little barrel, and shoots about an inch and a half. Way better than the factory stuff!

358 winchester is such a cool cartridge! I love old lever guns

@@timberfallingcouple Any of the rifles ever chambered in 358 win are good as gold when up for sale they sell so fast. Right now, in a Cabala's in Tigard Oregon is a very rare Winchester Model 88 Lever gun in 358 win so if you want it Cabala's will transfer the gun to any of the company stores. I looked it over so I can say it is in good shape with normal wear on the stock and the lever has been wore some for bluing. One model of the AR 10 upper I build, and sell is in the 358 win because the old cartridge is so popular and 308 and 30-06 - 270 win - 280 - 25-06 brass is easy converted to 358-win brass.

I happen to have a model88 in 243 already. And as cool as the old beast is, I don't have any use for a .358. They're a cool old cartridge, but not Omething I'll ever need. But if you see good deals let me know I really appreciate that!!

As far as resizing brass, necking up a little bit is about the extent of my skills. I take 270 brass up to 30-06 pretty often because I pick up a lot of 270 brass at the range

But anything more than that is beyond the scope of what I even want to have tools for bolted to my bench. I live in a tiny little hole in the wall, and space is pretty limited so another device is just a bigger space investment than it is money.

Dude they're just so pretty. One of the old timers had one, a 1951 at the range. Said his Dad bought it new in 51. He hadn't seen his dad in over 30 years and he held that rifle like he was shaking his dad's hand. Pretty special, these old guns

​I've got a old model 99 savage in the 250-300 it's a takedown made in 1928​each click on the scope is a quarter inch at a 100 yards@@timberfallingcouple

That's what I was thinking too! Next time she's our, I've got a load developed with an 87 grain slug that shoots about 2" which is probably the best I can do with a 2x powered scope.

This particular one does have a round counter. It doesn't exactly fit the window square, but it's legible

Thank you Jesse! Pretty stoked to get these groups a little tighter and get my first buck this season 😊

250 is such a neat cartridge. And the parent to one of the deadliest cases ever brought to call, 22-250! There was a nice 250 at that gun store, and also a couple 300 savages. It hurt me to pass up that 250, but 243 the ammo and brass availability, I had to do it. That plus the availability of light bullets that I'm familiar with. You know, Sadie might have to adopt your program, but I've personally tried placing my thumb along the stock [for accuracy purposes, my bench rest buddy told me to try it] but the light little rifles recoiled so wildly that my groups suffered and I went back to the hammer grip and everything tightened back up. I'm going to post a video with my 308 load development here soon and I'll show you some of that.

in the Savage 99s the rarest ones are in 250-300 & 284 win & 358 win . So, you have one of the rare ones. It puzzles me when all of these new cartridges are on necked down or up or smaller 308 case design why the 250 Savage is always overlooked? The other now fad is shooting heavy bullets well the 250 Savage can shoot heaver bullets than the 243 .

@@timberfallingcouple You are a re loader so used 243 - 260 - 7mm-08 - 308 to size down to make 250 Savage loaded ammo. You also can use 30-06 and once the 250 Savage brass is made use a case neck thinner to reduce neck thickness - I use a Forester case neck thinner. loading the 250 Savage using the 120 grain Barns TSX really brings the 250 Savage into a real deer killer. I build and sell AR 10 uppers so one I build many of is in the 250 Savage. These AR 10 uppers in 250 Savage using a Pac Nor Super match 22 inch barrel are extreme accurate and in the auto loader recoil is almost not felt.

@@lurebenson7722 I'll pass that info along to my dad. He has the old 250-3000 now, and he has been having a hard time finding brass.

@@timberfallingcouple Try also 22-250 brass because 250 savage is the same cartridge just neck up to 25 cal. This would be the easiest to do because neck 22-250 won't need the case necks thinned. Using the 250 Savage sizing die the neck up might be wise to go 24 cal then run in the 250 Savage die going is steps to increases neck size not to split cases. It would be wise to anneal also after resizing and don't do annealing like idiots do on KZfaq heat and not deprive of oxygen - drop casings in water to cool is the proper way to anneal and renew cartridges from the neck to just slightly below the neck shoulder to heat. If you have RCBS die you can use any RCBS expander in any RSCB sizing die to do the step up in calibers. The 250 Savage is the parent cartridge of the 22-250. Just unscrew the expander shaft nut holding the expander shaft then put any of the expander nut and expander ball and shaft back in to neck up cartridges. Even the data on the 22-250 between 250 Savage shows one has a 28-degree shoulder and the other as a 30-degree shoulder so who cares when resizing and firing the cartridge it will blow out to the chamber shape. 22-250 now isn't in any shortage at least here in the Pacific NW. I am an advance reloader since 1976 and custom rifle builder with even doing AR 10 uppers for sale in cambering's of - 22-6mm Rem - 250 Savage -- 6mm-284 win - 6.5x50 Jap - 6.5-284 Norma - 358 win - 6.5 WSM --- 7mm WSM - 300 WSM --- 325 WSM --- 358 WSM and a dangerous game AR 10 upper in 375 -300 WSM .

I'm going to come back to you this weekend and get some information. Yes it is the original scope, but with the retention springs on the outside of the screws like they are, I'm not very worried about them, they are stiff. I've got it down to about an inch and a half with the 40.5 grains of CFE223. I think that will be good enough. I think the biggest issue is that it's a 2 power scope, and the crosshairs cover the x ring of a target. But, really no complaints. It isn't a target rifle! It's plenty for deer and coyotes. I want to say it's a 20 inch barreled one. And the bs website I ran said 71, but might not be accurate. Let me come at you again this weekend! Thank you!!

​@@timberfallingcouple, 1971 would be serial number A667xxx to A949xxx - so first year of production. Nice! And agree, 1.5" with a 2x scope is perfectly legit. I was thinking it was a 4x. You're set for fall!

Oh absolutely!! And she just roasted her first Buck ever with it TODAY!!

Well this one is a long squawk from sub MOA, ass with the others I've handled. You've been very fortunate. Any bolt that locks up in the rear I think you're pretty fortunate to shoot anywhere near an inch. That's a long way for recoil to travel to the locking lugs. But maybe with some more load development. We are almost out of bullets and I think I'm going to play with some CX Monolithic copper bullets.

700 dollars (plus state and county sales tax)

Thanks, there's one at my local shop in 300 savage for $ 750 might have to grab it.

@georgekasza7295 this particular shop had several in 300 savage 250-3000 and the one in .243. .300 Savage is one of the finest cartridges ever invented and was absolutely without a doubt designed around this exact rifle. Excellent choice. Brass and ammo availability was a deciding factor for me. Hard to find .300 savage ammo in my neck of the woods, but goddamn they're good rifles and a great cartridge. I don't know a ton about these things, I know know how much I like them and what I paid seemed fair to me. 750 sounds like a damn fair price, but I sure as hell am no expert on 99s.

Thanks ,they have 5 boxes in stock and I could reload if I could find the dies.

@georgekasza7295 absolutely can! I know for a fact RCBS still makes dies for that one!

Well that is heartening news. I really love that rifle and so does she

My friend also directed me to Boyd's, who has a nice walnut option for it

@@timberfallingcouple Boyd's is always the first option looking for new stocks and from Boyd's the buyer has the option to make choices for finish and checkering or laser graphics done on the stock and chose length of pull and type of recoil pads. I've done allot of business with Boyd's stocks for custom rifles I have built. I like all the options Boyd's give you to design your own rifle stock.

Hey there's a damn fine fix!! Thank you I like that a ton!

I could do it with ebony or black plastic and it would look like the ebony dowels on the old model 70

GOod way to start , but it will continue to crack if it's Caused by poor bedding . Get someone with some experience to check AZ and glass bed the action if need be

@outinthesticks1035 seems like it might be. I've seen quite a handful of those 99s with cracked rear stocks. But if anything I'd probably try to solve it myself before I went too crazy. Can't be too hard to bed a rear only buttock if I had to figure it out on the fly

No!!!!!! Rest that gun on a rock solid rest and see what your loads do after you make changes especially a full tear down and gunsmithing change that affects bolt lock up!! And work that lever smooth and grab my piece of brass and don't bounce shit off of everything on the whole bench and the neighbor's, besides!!

Please enlighten me. As far as I knew the A71 meand 1971 vintage, but if you know something we don't, I'd love to know

@@timberfallingcouple*Savage eliminated the round counter widow in 1960. The straight grip was eliminated earlier than that. The tang safety, although not 100%, is another tip off. Without knowing the boss code, seeing that it's a .243, I'm guessing somewhere between 1955 & 1960...Of course it is possible that it was a special order by someone. I don't know if Savage did special orders in the 1970's, but they do now and have for a couple of decades, so that's always a possibility. The boss code should tell you when it was made, providing you have an accurate code list to correlate the code with*

I would be curious if the savagelevers guy or you is more correct. I don't know enough on the subject other than the A71 model and serial start, but I would like to provide you with the full serial number if you know how to research this, although I don't know if boss code and serial number are not the same thing

@@timberfallingcouple*The Boss Code and the Serial Number are NOT the same thing*

I've been wondering about that for a long time now. I punched in the numbers on some savage99 website and it told me 1971 so teach me