LOL, so far it's working pretty good. I have a heavier brass 2-8-0 (#360) that doesn't slip at all. Unfortunately the leading truck likes to wander into the wrong side of frogs... If I can figure out a way to keep it from frog wandering I'll use it in Frying Pan and move the #41 to Maroon Creek where the interchange will be. Thanks Lawrence!

@@OtterCreek Sounds good. If I were to make a S.W.A.G., I would posit that the lead truck needs a sloppier pivot and more downward tension and/or weight. (or not?)🙃

@@locolorenzo astute, observation. I can confirm that it absolutely needs more weight. I’ll have to take a closer look about the sloppiness at the pivot point that is some thing I had not considered. I’m of the opinion that it also sits too far forward of the drivers.

@@OtterCreek Wow, that sounds a little bit more involved!🤔 I've never considered the effect (or even the possibility) of moving the pivot point... it would probably change the lateral (steering) force on the drivers... as would lengthening or shortening the pilot truck, itself... as well as improving it's ability to behave itself when encountering those pesky frogs.🐸 It may be a trial-and-error kind of fix.😬 And, what about the pilot wheel flange profile (P.W.F.P.) - are they looking normal?😱 And, is the pilot axel square to the long axis of the pilot truck? (i.e. does it always track errantly to the left? or right?) And, is the pilot axel also square vertically to the pivot axis? (so that the wheels have equal contact with the rails? (that's another thing that a sloppier pivot might remedy, though in a mickey-mouse way) Fascinating and Mysterious! This has really got me thinking! Hopefully, you will tell us all about it in your upcoming video, "How I Fixed No. 360: and saved it from the brass recyclers".😊 Sorry, I was talking about axles, not axels! (I was watching an ice skating video earlier.)

Such a wonderful answer packed with plenty for me to look for the next time I feel inspired to work on the 360! I have compared the wheels with the standards gauge and didn't see anything obvious, but I'm not sure I know exactly what to look for. The Pilot has two pivot holes. I can move it where it is tucked in closer to the drivers, but it looks REALLY silly, but fewer derailments. I have mused absently of building a pilot truck out of styrene, but only if I could find a way to add weight which seems to be the primary problem with the "2's" in 2-8-0's. I wonder if there are any after market replacement pilots? The model is a NJ Custom Brass C-21... she runs pretty smooth but she is a growler and I have to turn the sound up louder than I prefer in order to ignore her moans and groans.

LOL! That was my attempt at humor! All the same video footage… x2…x4….x8….x20!!

Thanks Ray!

Very true Paul, and this is one mock-up that I should have spent a little more time on.

Thanks Dave!

Thanks Dave! I don't know that solved is the right word, but it does work.

Thanks so much!

Thanks Anthony!

Thanks Claude!

Thanks!! Yes, I think all my tests were done thinking the final position would be further down. Though it's hard to see, the track begins crowding toward the trestle the further down I place it. We'll see what the future brings.

Glad it was helpful! I used Hunter Line "tie brown" for the stain. Some of the pieces were stained with Builder and Square's "Dead Wood" first. I also like to set the pieces on paper to dry. Some I roll around to evenly distribute the stain, some I don't. That ensures some variety of color in the stain. Truthfully I should have used more plastic ties for gauging. There are a couple of places where the gauge is a bit too narrow. Thanks John!

Thanks!

I haven't had time to closely look at the book. I'll have to compare the dates. Thanks Robin!

Thanks Sierge. The song is called Dancin With the Devil. It's by a local artist named Dan Jordan. I was lucky enough to record a demo of just him singing and playing guitar on this song. I took his demo and produced it to the song you hear on my Channel. I'm playing drums, bass, electric and slide guitars. One of my favorites! You won't find this version anywhere but on my channel.

@@OtterCreek Thank you Dennis. This is one of the greatest interpretations of this song that I have heard and should be fully recorded and released for sale. Dan Jordan is a great artist and should be recognized for his talent.

Truth!

Thanks Ray! I used blue prints of D&RGW standard trestle bents for the build. That being said it's a long way from being accurate. The biggest difference was the stringers There is supposed to be space between the three timbers for drainage. I had no desire to try and model something that tedious, especially since it will never bee seen. I think the balsa I used for them was also oversized. 12x12's for the caps, posts and sills and 3X10's for the sway braces. Eventually I will add a cat walk and other details like NBW's if I don't end up rebuilding the whole thing! LOL.

I haven't completely decided, but I'm leaning heavily toward eventually rebuilding the bridge and coal bins with a slimmer design so I can extend the entire model forward another few inches. I can't recall if I mentioned it in the video, but this was my first attempt at scratching this type of structure and made no attempt at the prototype coal bins. I have a bit more confidence that I could come up with something much closer to the prototype, and I have much better pictures ten when I started. Thanks Chris!!

Glad you enjoyed it!

The east end of town is already compressed heavily. If I move the trunout any further down it will be directly in front of the Station. which would push the station away from the mainline. If I push the station down, then the pump house and the water tower end up Mal-aligned with the mainline, and the wye track. Also, it would likely change where the engine house would need to sit. All a bag of snakes I don't want to spill out on to the floor. The trestle works with a little bit of slippage. As said in the video, I'll run it for now and make a decision later if I want to rebuild it. Thanks for the input Bob!

There is one other thing. you can raise the turnout vertically by relaying it on bridge (or doubled up std. ties) one or two mm's. This would reduce the vertical curve at the start of th ramp. It of course, would introduce slight grades on the tracks approaching the turnout which you would have to use slims under to raise. I would think the new grades there would have a minor, in any effect on operation. Ballast would hide the thicker ties. Just trying to help; Bob@@OtterCreek

@@bobharris5872 Thanks Bob! I agree this is a good idea. A slight hump in the mainline right where the turnout is. I operated this evening and didn't have any issues. We'll see how it goes over time. The biggest part of me want's a trestle closer to the prototype and moved down a few more inches. I'm just not eager to do it right now.

The east end of town is already compressed heavily. If I move the trunout any further down it will be directly in front of the Station. which would push the station away from the mainline. If I push the station down, then the pump house and the water tower end up Mal-aligned with the mainline, and the wye track. Also, it would likely change where the engine house would need to sit. All a bag of snakes I don't want to spill out on to the floor. The trestle works with a little bit of slippage. As said in the video, I'll run it for now and make a decision later if I need to rebuild it. Thanks for the input!

Thank you for explaining you situation. Perhaps you need to add a sanding system on your loco? 😁

@@FunWithHOScaleStuff If only.... lol

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Thanks TC. I tried this with paper shims. There is no getting around the maths. The distance from the turn out which is 0 to the first bent is what it is. Unless I rebuild and redress the coal chutes so I can add another few inches to the run, it will just have to be the way it is. It does work, I just get the occasional slippage and I'm limited to one car at a time. Another option is moving the turnout further down. But that causes other issues that will take on a whole nother life of headaches. I'm happy for now.

@@OtterCreek I have come to the conclusion that math and the laws of physics are the enemies of model railroaders