Bruh

your song was awsome

Lesgoo

It's a textbook djent song but it actually sounds good :)

uploaD IT on spotify bro

Yeah, that was pretty meta and sorta deep like.

and in 2nd place "I didn't want to die."

i read it same time as he said it

You're wrong... He actually said "this is beautiful" to the second song hahaha.

i just gotta listen for the both of us then, cant get enough of prog/tech/math

"Prog" kind of sucks nowadays. Gotta look for "progressive" music instead.

@@Tanya-xs8zt If only your taste in music was as good as your ability to lead mage battalions....

I can’t keep track of how many times I’ve heard a song and been like “Wow this song had so many great parts. Too bad I can’t remember any of them because it was so bloody complicated.” And then half the time I just never even listen to it again. People think that a song is suddenly “sellout pop garbage” just because it’s easily digestible and has structure. So sad.

@@chilloutloops9916 the only person insulting other people's taste is you and the uploader who seems to have a seething hatred for metal, you can listen to whatever you enjoy my man , the issue is that this fuck ass content creator using these roasts to shittalk a genre he clearly does not know anything about beyond surface level djent bands that were considered boring derivative shit 5 years ago. also, complicated compositions and structure can exist within the same track, just because it's not chorus verse chorus verse ad nauseam it does not mean that there is no structure you just aren't used to it, shit takes some ear training to appreciate. if it's not your thing that's totally fine by me just chill with the narrow minded assumptions that's all thanks for reading my blog post

"Take me back to where we came from, remind me how we got here" Well fucking said. This is something the Romantic era composers mastered.

​@@darionbuck8864 This is very important. I remember when DT released their first album after Mike Portnoy left, and it was really clear why they needed his influence on the songwriting process, even if they found him overbearing. All the longer songs on that album had the same problem - when they went off on their instrumental sections, it was so tangentical that i would find myself zoning out, then zoning back in and wondering how the hell the song had reached this point. Prior to Portnoy's departure, you could listen to the first minute of almost any track, skip ahead to any point, and be able to see how it relates back to what was established in that first minute. Prog is about exploration and development of a song's core idea, not just constantly progressing from one idea into another, completely unrelated idea.

See, it's definitely possible to throw in whatever riffs. The key is transitions. As you're able to transition from one to the other thing having it make sense then it's all good.

I totally feel you on stoner rock and doom being a genre in which a lot of bands still give enough fucks to make interesting and inovating songs

@@alexandremouriz5767 Got any stoner rock recommendations? I'm an old school metalhead, but the genre feels mostly dead right now. With a few notable exceptions such as Gojira, metal bands nowadays feel like they are robots who strive only for technical precision, and if they want to seem thoughtful, they open up the Tesseract guide to sounding introspective via reverb.

Was waiting for the unsuscribed

Whats the process to get into these vids?

Gotta agree with JF9 here. As someone who is currently educating themselves musically, it's a reason to go back to these videos and watch them more than once. Hell after this series ends, it'd be cool if we could get more educational content like this. Side note, these videos are all hilarious. Thanks for sharing your pain.

@@HeavyRaiden gg

boo

Yeah and those artificial machinegun-like drums in each of them

I think its also a problem in other genres, not only on metal, like, you have this DAW and plugins that can make any possible sound imaginable and people just stick with copying someones sound without adding anything to it

@@nikitahichoii482 I won't even start talking about the gentrification of rap and trap as I saw it first hand when I went pro and had to do these too 😬 they make the djent copycats look like pioneers.

That's why they're bedroom producer

It's normal. We play what we grown up with. Things change too, but it's all happening smoothly.

He went full Chopin

It is. At this point they are doing Clapton like riffs.

Sophistication through simplification is still prevalent in Black Metal. Some bands can still sound fresh while still being conventional or traditional

Jesus the good true sovereign lord cares for you my friends may you trust in Jesus, who's word is proven true time and time again 😊

Bro why cant you consolidate this in one big comment💀

@@RudyAyoub I thought I was watching a livestream for some reason. Sorry too much wine 🍷

@@ChadMojito damn bro

With retrospect I understand now. It's because of the notification.

@@ChadMojito you do you, more comments, more engagement for the channel so Rudy should be happy about it lol

HOW IS THIS COMMENT FROM ONE DAY AGO IF THE VIDEO HAS BEEN PUBLISHED 10 MINUTES AGO🤯🤯🤯

@@MannyFioretti I pay Rudy to see his videos in early access

@@ChadMojito Illuminati confirmed

@@MannyFioretti yeah I'm very confused right now.

@@ChadMojito i wish i could pay rudy to never see his videos on my feed

Carbomb!!!

Same. We live in a world of informational pollution where you need to search for gems in a huge pile of poop

All my homies on the meta grind

He's not the hero we need, he's the hero we deserve, because we're all trash.

Your spirits seem to be scattered

Love that main riff! Is Co Shu Nie one of your influences?

i really liked both solos, the tones there were very nice

I really dig your song. Rudy is an unnecessary douchebag through most of his critique to be honest, but I guess that's his brand.

@@brycewalburn3926 Rudy's pretty mean but he wasn't wrong or anything. The song didn't have enough of a story or through line, partially due to the lack of vocals but more-so because of the focus of the song being on the mood and genre it inhabited. They're clearly really technically solid, but as a debut song it establishes little to no identity. If the song were mixed into a playlist with a bunch of other contemporary songs you wouldn't be able to pin it from the others. The reason Rudy's so rude (fml I don't know how to say this without making the fucking pun or repeating myself) is because that's the only way for the series to be entertaining, especially when most of the criticisms he can level are mistakes made 100 times before on the series.

@@shinichikuda Totally had the same vibe, like this wouldn't be out of place in the Tokyo Ghoul re soundtrack.

Immediately skipped the 4th bc of tone. That was some rough stuff … Every name you came up with is legit tho 👌🏼

my first blender project im deceased

Insurgent is actually decent tho

Cosmophobe i felt like had more jinjer instrumentation

Totally nailed me on the first blender project thing! hahaha, it was.

Stop thinking discount Tesseract and animals as leaders copies are progressive. Listen to bands that have actually toured and have gotten in person feedback. Go ahead, you can find good actually progressive bands if you look. Sterile incoherent djent noodlers are "prog" but aren't progressive. What these "prog" bands lack is atmosphere. Songs need to make you feel like you aren't sitting in a chair with headphones. Try Leprous, Cog, The Mars Volta, The Ocean Collective, Night Verses, Black Crown Initiate, Cult of Luna, Dvne, Twelve Foot Ninja, Intronaut, Mastodon, Soen, Latitudes, Cynic. To name a few.

Pretty much

Okay but when working out meshuggah fucking slaps

@@memicusdankis4212 Meshuggah always slaps same with After the Burial

@@memicusdankis4212 Meshuggah is the one exception to the rule for Djent. Most djent bands have absurdly clear tones, to the point where its as sterile as an operating theatre. They want people to know just how much time they spent quantising the riffs with Melodyne. Meshuggah's riffs are nasty and dirty sounding, full of attitude like metal should be.

@Patridge Yea nah they are Djent as fuck. They spawned a genre and remain at the top of it because everyone's admittedly just copying them, like thrash bands with Metallica and Slayer.

Everything sounds like it was produced by the same person. I miss variety

Agree on your first sentence. I guess too many are making music for (or to impress) other musicians and that is the worst you can do.

Somehow? Since the rivalry of Megadeth and Metallica, probs even earlier, it has been a dick measuring contest for fans about who shreds better

@@19ThreeLions97 yeah i definitely see what you mean, but i think that's more of a fan thing than a concern for the musicians themselves, at least once they get a little more mature. using the megadeth example, yes, dave started it motivated by a superiority complex but eventually his songwriting turned into one of the most cohesive and tasteful in metal, just happening to still be technical, everything from rust in peace to youthanasia being a great example of balance between the two imo

Tbh knowing how to stay in the pocket and knowing when to whip out technical proficiency is way more satisfying. I’m a really extreme example, but as a person who loves pop music I always get a kick out of the surprise on musicians face when I switch from a basic top 10 hit to playing the GOAT riff and then back, subtlety makes the moments of skill all the more impressive

Just gonna go here and recommend the prog metal band (although they'd hate me for calling them that) Ne Obliviscaris

Like there are other patterns bro.

Lol now everyone will have to credit rudy as producer on their music

definitely. Tired of barely being able to discern the chords with my ears cause they're too low. And I'm just tired of that sound. The lowest you should go is D. Unless your Amon Amarth of something who has amazing music in B.

@MR.CLAW1997 Well say dude

Black Metal

I genuinely cannot begin to understand why the hell anyone would ever play something like a 10 string guitar. If you want your stuff to sound bassy and low then actually use your bass guitar what's the point in downtuning so far that it's impossible to tell what's going on in the music

I've always said that Djent was Metal's retarded little brother.

Eyy.. good to see you here again. Love your work.

@@Yanthungbemo Thank you!

Hey guys, check out this band Insurgents

@@insurgent1126 great song

He's scared

Yo the Chad Mojito himself watches Rudy, mind blown

@@KeithintheWoods dude you should know, Rudy was on my podcast about a year ago!

To me solar sounds like something novelists would write

@@uremoangel21 love those guys

I was thinking the same thing.

bro it's isosceles

@@ayeyobossman6151 oh thank fuck, you corrected him. we can all sleep tonight, thank you

@@sweetassgigs No worries mate anytime. I live to serve.

hell yea bro

Someone else here jokingly called your video "my first blender project", turns out they were onto something, lol

@@denisborzov8406 must be a blender user themselves. I definitely did all the rookie mistakes.

You could tell, keep at it!

yeah. as a drummer I cry.

hence the name

Check pinned comment

I found it!

@@ChadMojito lmao nice one

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Yes it's great. You get the Rudely humor, but with some borderline par critique. Probably the closest to not trash that Rumby offers. I can't unsubscribe, watching him slowly die keeps me young. It's like this channel is my Memento Mori, or perhaps a car crash in front of a disabled school of orphans that I just can't seem to look away from.

Bro the thing is he was actually more polite on this video he normally goes in way harder

@@chiefsmackaho42 Like, SO hard.

@Cosmophobe haha

@Cosmophobe loved the tune mate

wait which one was that because none of these songs are called meteorain lol

@@johnevered9640 Its the first song Kagemaro and in the title on rudys screen it does say meteorain

@@johnevered9640 Kagemaro - Meteorain

Is your profile picture Koizumi

glorious

This. This. THIS.

Yes. This is me playing the pentatonic over a 5 minute Hendrixy backing track if I knew how to shred. Mine is a salad with potatoes, onion and paprika this has mango, cashews and chia seeds n shit. Both salads you wont remember you had yesterday.

Yeah well said. Second song especially had the most boring lead guitar I've ever heard. Dreamy and constant 16th notes around a scale made me want to check my phone. And the solo didn't say anything other than "I practice playing fast a lot."

Doesn't matter how technically proficient you are on guitar. If you can't make me FEEL what you're playing, I'll just go on to the next song, and if there are too many songs like the previous ones, I'll just skip your band altogether and keep doing so, until I end up listening to music from 20 years ago and think, "Now THIS is good music. Don't know what the hell I experienced earlier, but it all sounded stale by comparison."

Pretty sure Sabbath was down tuned, but you’re right. Do less and maybe people will still jam it fifty years later.

@@adamg.manning6088 depends. Early sabbath was in standard I’m pretty sure. I mean real early

@@AGuyOnTheInternet-jm4rs Oh fair enough. Thanks.

They only down tuned during Master Of Reality throughout to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath since Tony Iommi lost the tips of his fingers and pretty much had to have less string tension to play at the time.

First album was tuned to Eb Standard and on next they tuned to C# Standard

But mix wasn't the best, right.

Nah its not just you, like 95% of modern proggy melodic djent metalcore sounds exactly the same

Ryan Martinie has more talent, vision, and creativity in his pinky than all mOdErN mEtAl bass players.

I actually really like solar and Kagemaro was... Interesting, I've only seen those so far so I'm expecting the worst now lol

@@TTheLemon I couldn't finish the video after like the 4th song, lmao. I wanted to stay for Rudy's jokes, but I couldn't listen to any more

Yeah I really enjoyed the first two songs

I've been playing for 16 years, and I have even less to offer 😅

The point imho is these people don’t jam, don’t hang with other musicians, don’t grow their ears socializing with other instruments. Most of this stuff is made by bedroom musicians waiting for the chance to show off how cool the can riff/shred/whatever and enjoy physically playing on the instrument but have little on their own to say as musicians. Which is fine btw, and it’s the reason most good music is born from people interacting.

Thank you

fortunately there is a loud-ass one at 14:41

The most noticeable interval to me

Wachu got against the m2?

@@MingusDynastyy Nothing at all, I think it's rather spicy!

For real why are they always so corny and cliche

@@jtyler0 ikr all of them are overdramatic and edgy

hell yeh!!

❤️

You’re the first one to nail them both - we love you.

my dude, is a giant.

Hmm you're familiar

shrimp

They are trying to sound like Jinjer.

@@feiticeirafatale561 that's just Opeth with extra steps

@Gringo Killer That's just, like, your opinion, man

Couldn’t have said it better myself. There’s no emotion, no substance, just sound. It’s not art, it an imitation of art. Music isn’t just technique, it’s also feeling, and if you don’t have that, then you don’t have music.

When r/metal writes a song

@Maxi Rios Polyphia's stuff ever since they evolved their style has certainly been innovative and interesting in terms of the playing techniques involved and taking influences from hip-hop and other genres. However, when you listen to one Polyphia song after another, can you really say each song tells a different story with different emotions, or despite the innovative techniques, it's still just a lot of flexing and playing similar type of riffs over and over, showing off the utilization of complex tapping and harmonics? What stories do these songs actually tell? What emotions do they actually convey? What journey do you actually go on, with a sense of developing drama or changing emotional landscape of progression of musical ideas? If I can jump around the song at different time stamps and it basically sounds the same, then is there actual meaningful development? To give an example of a guitar player who's known for being an excellent songwriter/composer, would be Plini (who's one of my favorites). Listen to how he develops the emotional journey and musical ideas of his songs, how the songs can sound quite different from each other, yet still retain his prog/djent/fusion sensibility and sounds like him. His entire discography is a testament to his talent and skill as a composer and arranger. Another example would be Eric Johnson's "Manhattan." That song is a masterpiece and a masterclass in how to develop a musical idea in a guitar-centric context with different sections, utilizing different techniques, and conveys emotions or moods in a distinct manner. Alex Hutchings' "Happy As Larry" is another fusion masterpiece. Listen to that melodic development, the way he can shred without sounding like meaningless noodling and create beautiful melodic lines, and how he escalates the tension and built up the excitement, or how he alters the pacing a bit in the rhythm and phrasing at the mid-point, and then continues smoothly to the rest of the piece, but the momentum is never interrupted.

@@minixlemonade2335 never heard anything so painfully true in my life but you just hit the nose right there my guy 😂

Lmao true

Lmaooo 👏

Kagemaro gives so much anime’s intro vibes in fact, couldnt think of something else while listing to it

You explained kagemaro, solar, and greater danger in such an accurate way, no seriously I felt the exact same way towards them but couldn't explain it like you did😭

Was awesome.

I thought the intro was dope. I picked up all of the instruments and it built up really well. I actually enjoyed it. They play with feeling.

I went to their video to listen clean and it's still great. I get what he's saying about structure... it's not all there, but it still stands out great as a track.

Hope they get well soon

@@paulobrito664 ahahahahahahah

nah he definitely is going softer

yeah, every piece of music should conform to the same standards. you forgot about 'soul' and 'emotions' tho if you want a story go read a book or listen to the millions of availble bands out there that do that, i personally want nonstop speed and technicality, and musicians pushing themselves to the absolute limits on their instruments

❤️

Its literally just pop

@@biggest_man4151 Yep, definitely some of it can be described as "heavy pop-punk." Though, it being similar to pop isn't the reason I dislike it.

core is cringe

@@biggest_man4151 Converge, Insect Warfare, and Dillinger Escape Plan sound like pop?...

@@Sergio-nb4hj no not at all. At the time i was thinking of metalcore

While i don't want to fall into any fallacy of "everything sounds the same, but i haven't heard every bit of music out there", i truly believe it's lacking a bit of direction now, because we have all of this technology, so i guess extreme complex riffs is the way to go ? But if it loses that "simplistic catchiness", maybe it does sound the same ? I think back then with current technology, the Metallicas and Iron Maidens would still exist, but a lot more local bands would sound like them. Also maybe it's because of the internet, and easy popularity ? What grants you more views quicker, enter sandman cover, or an original ? Maybe we are lazy, i truly i dont know my guy

@@Rikarwb i think it's a typical mirror of society. directionless and bland (with some exceptions of course)

just look up the length of all the classical periods and then check out all the blues/jazz standards that are still being performed to this day and maybe rethink your expectations towards metal for not changing fast enough. djent didn't even exist 15 years ago and it evolved to the point where it encompasses vastly different sounding band from borderline postrock/ambient material (sithu aye for example) all the way to heavy bands like humanity's last breath, and that's just one subgenre. I'd say metal is peaking very hard right now if anything

Why would you watch a video of modern metal roasting if you're going to get offended?

​@@tommypenisfingers because its clickbait that does not represent what the video was about, and it also does a legit disservice to 'modern metal'(?) music by constantly conflating djent with contemporary metal, and the uploader was roasting rookie musicians of a single genre (almost exclusively) possibly the only metal genre the uploader ever liked before moving on/back to jazz and fusion .he sounds somewhat musically trained and def knows some amount of theory, so i'd be really curious to hear his opinions on actually boundary pushing contemporary metal bands like archspire, igorrr, thy catafalque, car bomb, Berried alive, hell id even take BTBAM or the years old solo album from jason richardson, but constantly conflating djent tropes being boring as shit with metal for a cheap joke every time is not cool, especially when metal has literally the most variety out of any genre (arguably) @uploader guy please bro , either stop making metal music the butt of every joke or catch up on the past 10 years of developments in metal so you have something more substantive to put in your modern prog metal in 9 steps video pt2 other than yet another weird ass attack on tesseract/djent (why even....)and dream theater (and no polyphia style themes anywhere even tho thats how half the wanna be proggers sound like lately and you even know this band), hope you can see where im coming from with my constructive criticism

Ha more like the GOOD influence 😎👉👉

Yes. This. There’s no meaningful harmony anymore. As far as the eye can see, a barren wasteland of djent riffs.

It needs more groove.

So true man. Sometimes after listening to this new age complex stuff when I go back and listen to some 80s hard rock it just feels like a breath of fresh air. I don’t have anything against this music but it seems its not my cup of tea

Songwriting used to be the goal. Banging your head and having fun with likeminded people used to be the goal. Now the goal is to sit in your bedroom with top end gear/plugins/drinking artisanal coffee and trying to prove you’re really clever.

@@saurabhsuman4197 this shit's all gonna loop back to that in a few years, mark my words. At least we should get something like the late 2000's new wave of thrash.

@@saurabhsuman4197 You play any instruments?

@@BassManDan1018 Spot on. You know it

Worship

Spot on. Ive tried so hard to find other bands like ST and haven't been able to for the most part. They just occupy this little niche of metal(?) that nobody else does. Imminence may be the only band that comes close to that vibe for me.

Oh yes they definitely know a tasteful blend in their own way too! Especially heaven in hiding

so more like your 5.18am on thursdays slightly different sounding djent?

Everyone just wants to be mad, bro 🤣

Bro...No no...Are yo....Huh?... but it LITERALLY DOES ALL SOUND THE FJCK1NG SAME!!!🤦

@@nutterinherbutter5080 what the fuck is wrong with you

SAME

Kind of sounds like Sashko

I really like it, but it does sound a bit generic. Or at least the beginning does.

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@@solarjh2765 thank you so much Song is beautiful Keep on

there's only 1 Meshuggah.. no one can ever touch them..

We have periphery at home.

There is only one Meshuggah and that’s the problem... it’s a simple concept but it seems like none of these artists listen to anything else. Metallica? Slayer? Michael Jackson? Eminem? If you can’t get down to Smooth Criminal or Billie Jean or My Name Is... how the 🦆 are you going to write tech death for more than 2 fans?!

@@Xplora213 messhugah has nothing to do with tech death you're thinking of djent. those 2 genres sound nothing alike so maybe instead of recommending people to listen to flicking Metallica maybe check out cynic ,death,atheist (big early influences of:) necrophagist, obscura, equipose, archspire, first fragment,spawn of possession and get a feel for the genre by listening to bands that can actually write properly structured techdeath not just riff vomit. it's still going to be fast af and won't slow down but that's kinda the point of the whole genre so if that's not your thing you still won't be enjoying any of these bands but its worth at least giving a chance. id recommend starting with obscura since their guitarist and bass player both have an actual degree in music and know their shit

@@Tanya-xs8zt I love Death, necrophagist, obscura, first fragment, beyond creation- they are master musicians and composers. Sean Malone(RIP), Dominic Forrest Lapointe and Evan Brewer are three bass players I regularly study. But you are actually selling Meshuggah a bit short. You see- you can identify a Meshuggah track from a mile away- just by their uniqueness. They don't give a duck about melody(except thordendal's lead solo time). Meshuggah's originality comes from their rhythm- the origin of music... It's something primitive, tribal or spiritual- as if caught in a meditative trance. Till date I know max 3/4 groups that can invoke similar feelings- but each are vastly different from each other. And vastly different from Meshuggah.

Listen to sylosis?

Listen to slam in double drop c it’ll change your life

Stay in tune and listen to my band hehe

Nothing wrong with low tunings. It's the music they are playing and the production that's the issue.

yes you're a boomer

I got it instantly!

Yep