MODERNIZED Indian Brahmos Strike vs Chinese Carrier Group (Naval Battle 80) | DCS

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We simulate a ship and aircraft battle between a modern aircraft carrier group from China, and an anti-ship strike from India using the Brahmos missile.
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@TooliusTech
@TooliusTech Жыл бұрын
India just tested the 700km Air launched brahmos today ! Also india has 40 sukhoi's that can carry the brahmos and also they have the surface launched ER range brahmos that is good for 600km if not more.
@smucka1
@smucka1 Жыл бұрын
400km not 700km
@roberttarring8621
@roberttarring8621 Жыл бұрын
Brahmos,Brahmos for all! 😂😂
@TooliusTech
@TooliusTech Жыл бұрын
Check the test today . 700km range was fully test today !!
@sidv4615
@sidv4615 Жыл бұрын
@@smucka1 700km tested on 29th december
@shtorm2616
@shtorm2616 Жыл бұрын
I doubt that they will be able to reliably detect and track a target at that range tbh. It's one of the major flaws of hypersonics that I always say. The extreme range will give the defenders a lot of time to break the kill chain i.e. break lock, kill whatever's targetting them etc.
@mattseller148
@mattseller148 Жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but I thought that Indian Rafale's had Meteor and Mica and that Derby was used on SU-30 and MIG-29 with a mix of it a R-77 and soon Astra, so I dont think Derby would be the only missile used, but I know how hard it is to set up regular DCS without mods so this battle is still really great.
@L.K.P_
@L.K.P_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah india has meteor
@ArizonaAstraLLC
@ArizonaAstraLLC Ай бұрын
Yeah, India has operational Meteors. That was my first thought, too
@akashn53
@akashn53 Жыл бұрын
Brahmos missile speed is 3.5 Mack not 2.5 and it's range is now increased to 450 km... I really like your video, make more on indian military
@TheCheekyBerserker
@TheCheekyBerserker Жыл бұрын
not 450 700 kms
@exurgemars
@exurgemars Жыл бұрын
@@TheCheekyBerserker 700 km BrahMos not in service yet.
@tarmin1711
@tarmin1711 Жыл бұрын
@@exurgemars It already is. The 1000 km version is still being tested
@darthvader5558
@darthvader5558 Жыл бұрын
@@exurgemars 700 km BrahMos has entered service, currently they're working on the 1000 km version
@abhishekdev258
@abhishekdev258 Жыл бұрын
700 km
@suyashsingh6976
@suyashsingh6976 Жыл бұрын
The reported speed of Brahmos is 3-3.5 mach and not mach 2.0 just, 2) I don’t think the Israelis have permitted the Derby’s to be used on Sukhois so that’s wrong and the flankers would be carrying Indian Astra instead. 3) Brahmos is a joint indo Russian project and the missile is named after the initials of the two country’s major rivers I.e. Brahmaputra of India and I think Moskava or something of Russia( so it’s not a sale of kh61 version)
@akashn53
@akashn53 Жыл бұрын
Correct 👍
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
Derby is being used on the Su-30mki. Israel allowed it because it is Indian, mission computer too is Indian.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
Nonsense. The Brahmos missile is sub-sonic at sea level
@direwolf7491
@direwolf7491 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 Tell that to Pakistanis, who clocked it at near mach 3 at its terminal phase before it crashed into a town. Lol
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
@@direwolf7491 Reports are saying that it was sub-sonic and was shot down by a guy wearing a turban with an Ak-47
@jhonterry2680
@jhonterry2680 Жыл бұрын
As of now India currently has meteor aam which is used on the rafale. And brahmos has a max speed of mach 3+ with a range of about 400km and and extended range with about 600+km is being tested.
@jhonterry2680
@jhonterry2680 Жыл бұрын
@@minus21334 if I give you facts then it would be like casting pearls before swine 🤘
@littleregrets8810
@littleregrets8810 Жыл бұрын
@@minus21334 more like overdosing on dog shit kebabs since you guys since such tiny eyes
@Akuma-kg6hg
@Akuma-kg6hg 2 ай бұрын
Bramhos is not Mach 3+ Its mach 2.8
@VkmSpouge
@VkmSpouge Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see an Indian carrier group v Chinese carrier group, especially if INS Vikrant is modelled in the game.
@danishkfd
@danishkfd 10 ай бұрын
Vikrant is smaller than their Chinese counterparts. Not to forget Chinese have more carrier. If INS Vishal is inducted tho, that would make it a equal war rather than a defensive one.
@zubinalias1722
@zubinalias1722 Жыл бұрын
Could’ve used Astra on the Sukhoi.
@L.K.P_
@L.K.P_ Жыл бұрын
True and why he didn't add meteor ?
@glorytitangamers2781
@glorytitangamers2781 Жыл бұрын
Yess we can
@VivekSingh-fb8vp
@VivekSingh-fb8vp Жыл бұрын
Brahmos is Mach 3.2 Cruise missile with range now 650Km just tested in early jan. It can fly just 5m from sea surface hard to track and kill..
@Strider.01
@Strider.01 Жыл бұрын
bhai game hai or game me update aane mai time lagta hai
@justicethedoggo3648
@justicethedoggo3648 Жыл бұрын
After all it's game , they haven't updated it
@MrCastodian
@MrCastodian Жыл бұрын
No, it does not travel in mach 3.2 and tested, not operational, and theoretically 5 meter, in reality fighter because the sea state is a thing, if a Brahmos hit a wave it crash…and it’s often 5 m waves in the open sea.
@Bob-vw3tf
@Bob-vw3tf Жыл бұрын
Maybe according to Indian call centers scammers 😂
@amoghdesai9075
@amoghdesai9075 5 ай бұрын
@@Bob-vw3tfAccording to your non existent braincells😂😂
@gendo1
@gendo1 Жыл бұрын
The official Simba Fan Club has a USAF veteran who worked finance who tells me they LOVE the monetary estimates for the battles. Please include them from now on, and hats off to those did all the hard work on the numbers and code! We do however have a suggestion after talking it over and we would like to see the included est. cost of the training required to replace pilots/crew and watch the prices double!
@waynesworldofsci-tech
@waynesworldofsci-tech Жыл бұрын
I agree. The costs add so much context.
@Evocati-Augusti
@Evocati-Augusti Жыл бұрын
USAF veteran
@RT-qd8yl
@RT-qd8yl Жыл бұрын
To all the GR crew: I just wanna say thank you guys and girls for providing us with such fun and entertaining content on such a regular and consistent basis. I really appreciate all the work and coordination on everyone's part which goes into making all this stuff for our entertainment, and I know everyone else does too! We love you guys, thanks for doing what you do!
@james4554
@james4554 Жыл бұрын
Well said sir.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Pleasure
@mineralgaming7066
@mineralgaming7066 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers hey what happen to rc ?
@craggleshenanigans
@craggleshenanigans Жыл бұрын
What I find a bit funny about the scenario is that the Brahmos is going to be acquired by the Philippines so in a hot war, the carrier group might be already shot at with the missile on it's way
@Justineexy
@Justineexy Жыл бұрын
Philippine would avoid that tbh... they don't want war...
@cassius_eu5970
@cassius_eu5970 Жыл бұрын
Why the hell would the Philippines want to start a war with China? China is by far the Philippine's largest trade partner and a major strategic partner.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
I heard that the Philippines have developed a Brahmos variant the is better than the Indian one.
@thomaszhang3101
@thomaszhang3101 Жыл бұрын
I mean if this is real life, why will China use its navy against India?
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
@@thomaszhang3101 It wouldnt. Its just a video game. Its not real.
@ricardosmythe2548
@ricardosmythe2548 Жыл бұрын
India would have the numbers advantage in the air, land based anti air systems reaching out and the Indian navy. You've given China huge advantage in this scenario
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
China is wayyyyy ahead of India in the tech realm
@tenzinganag5348
@tenzinganag5348 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 you can't buy land in sea. In Indian Ocean, Indian can fire too many Land based Brahmos. We have MR and XR Sam to shoot down and aircraft comming in our air space. We are not going to fight in black see.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
@@tenzinganag5348 Sure, Jan
@dkbros1592
@dkbros1592 Жыл бұрын
Yup 😁 Western man fantasy
@dkbros1592
@dkbros1592 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 lol ya made in China hehehehe 😂😂
@RCLepcha
@RCLepcha Жыл бұрын
Astra BVR missile could also had been used
@sanjaysaha5002
@sanjaysaha5002 Жыл бұрын
2:09 not just a paint job it exceeds speed of mach 3.5+ and the air launch and navy version have more range which is 300-500km already in service.. Even the missile without any explosive warhead can split open a ship with kinetic impact itself. The missile is already tested (miss fired) on Pakistan in 2022 was air-force version but it was a ground launched version.
@Ilovecruise
@Ilovecruise Жыл бұрын
Modern ship are literally iron can. Too much kinetic energy mean not doing critical damage because it just over penetrate.
@hriteshprasad3720
@hriteshprasad3720 Жыл бұрын
Don't mind them Sanjay, they were just enjoying. Although there research was not accurate, but again they are gamers and not experts on these matters.
@chilled_beer821
@chilled_beer821 Жыл бұрын
india has astra missile as fox 3 used by su30mki which is not seen in this simulation, astra range is arround 120 kms and bhramos speed is mach 3 to mach 4.5
@Bob-vw3tf
@Bob-vw3tf Жыл бұрын
According to the Indian call Center scammer astra has 200km range in a variant called the bob and vegene edition
@ajaymudgal3735
@ajaymudgal3735 2 ай бұрын
​@@Bob-vw3tfuse burnol brother..😂😂😂
@Paddman
@Paddman Жыл бұрын
it is a pleasure to see the videos getting better... this counter is great, also the sheer scale of the operation
@clivereid
@clivereid Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate all the hard work that's going into creating modernised aircraft, weapons systems etc. - *Especially* that you're making a massive effort to make them as realistic as possible. That's why it's so entertaining and why many of us can't get enough of it! Maybe it'd be worth simulating the air defences that would be protecting the air bases, AWACS etc. to stop (in this case) the red side unrealistically following the blues all the way back to base?
@palker4
@palker4 Жыл бұрын
50 vs 50 live people battle would be absolutely insane to coordinate but it would worth it. I would watch every minute of that.
@m2kewl
@m2kewl Жыл бұрын
The last stage of the BRAHMOS follows a completely different S Trajectory which makes it extremely difficult intercept
@MrCastodian
@MrCastodian Жыл бұрын
Na, it does not, a myth. Missiles that travels in that speed can’t make turns without thrust vectors, and Brahmos does not have that.
@SanthoshKumar-pp7mq
@SanthoshKumar-pp7mq Жыл бұрын
That's for the land attack not for antishipping role.
@christophero55
@christophero55 Жыл бұрын
I love me some Wargames. The financial expenditure counter is a great addition. Another fantastic video and step forward in quality from the Grim Reapers :)
@sulyokpeter3941
@sulyokpeter3941 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant battle! LOVE the new tech! I hope the Type 45 vessels also coming soon, because Iam pretty sure it will be much more better(Aster 15, Aster 30(Range 120km) and there is an another missile which is capable of mach 10+ interception. Ballistic missile defence.) and it will get its new anti-ship missiles(the Naval Strike Missile from 2023) than what you have now in the game. So you can finally create a UK and US vs Chinese and Russian CSG battle. :D
@totalnerd5674
@totalnerd5674 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, when you do eventually get the Type 55, keep in mind that they probably would not stack a carrier group with 6 of them. They in fact only have 8 such ships at the moment, spread across different fleets.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
agree
@NightPhoenix.Y
@NightPhoenix.Y Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers have u guys received news on the Chinese Carrier force sent to the Philippines sea? The composition has two type 055s with it.
@dai0laffin
@dai0laffin Жыл бұрын
Brilliantly done as usual, even to finding an analogue for the 'lands'. So we'll done all!
@sushantsingh6555
@sushantsingh6555 Жыл бұрын
Fun to watch, kudos for effort you guys put in this simulation. Will love to see more India based DCS.
@lordisback1947
@lordisback1947 Жыл бұрын
Man kh61 or p800 is as different from brahmos as su27 is from su30 and su35. Russia needed range of 800km hence less speed of 2.5 Mach whereas India's enemies are near so don't need much range and rather opted for speed with min 2.8 mach to 3.2 mach but with 450 km range when launched from ground, sea and from submarines underwater and 600-700 km when launched from air. Russia don't have air varient or p800 could easily reach 1000km. So, different demand hence different product but of same family.
@max2008abhi
@max2008abhi Жыл бұрын
The latest brahmos has a range of 700 km air launched and a speed of mach 2.8 And the rafale has been upgraded with gallium nitride jammers to combat aesa equipped fighters.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
Sure they do
@mattseller148
@mattseller148 Жыл бұрын
@SHASHWAT SINGH I agree that the that Astra is better than Derby but India bought the Derby as a stop gap ,until they had enough Rafales with Meteor and Astra had finished development, for the exact reason that the AIM-120 out ranged the version of the R-77 they had during the air battle in 2019 forcing one MKI pilot to dodge 6-7 missiles with out being able to fire (that MKI pilot is a true legand).
@mynameis5058
@mynameis5058 Жыл бұрын
That Brahmos went like sub sonic...
@PrashadKaPrasad
@PrashadKaPrasad Жыл бұрын
That was cool GM. Nice simulation. Earned a Sub 👍🏻
@kingroopesh1234
@kingroopesh1234 Жыл бұрын
Good Simulation Guyz. But, I guess we should not be using kh61/Oniks instead of Brahmos. Brahmos is superior to kh61. I may sound Indian but this is a fact, when PL-15 can be simulated, Brahmos should be done too. Brahmos has very low sea skimming height/high maneuverability with Mach 3 speed and improved guidance. Kh61 is not brahmos guyz, no need to get disappointed. This simulation almost gives a real rush. Will see more of your videos.😊
@MrCastodian
@MrCastodian Жыл бұрын
On the other hand, Tyoe 52C is not Tyoe 52D or Tyoe 055, those ships can target low flying supersonic missiles…
@saajanraju1
@saajanraju1 Жыл бұрын
@@MrCastodian for blocking a single brahmos you need to fire min 3 missile.. we will send more brahmos ..none of ur ships will survive
@jaxompol224
@jaxompol224 Жыл бұрын
Not something you hear every mission ....the common sense of fly 😱 I think the matrix is finally broken.
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
agree
@dexlab7539
@dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын
LOVED the new Scoreboard - Thanks Cap!!
@akdaltonaurora
@akdaltonaurora Жыл бұрын
Awesome work on all of the new tech, and the counter for financial.
@c612monster4
@c612monster4 Жыл бұрын
Good video, but brahmos is not the same missile it has supersonic speed through out the flight 1km/sec in which it can maneuver, it has upgraded seeker and avionics which provides pinpoint accuracy and superior flight characteristics, and aslo imples some level of stealth.
@MikeHarrison3266
@MikeHarrison3266 Жыл бұрын
I always wonder if the cost of weapons is even close to reality or if they are grossly inflated to allow the arms industry to suck up as much money from the taxpayer as possible. I will go with the latter.
@braaap2943
@braaap2943 Жыл бұрын
They have to take profits, but i don't believe they make like 300% on a missile. You are paying for the materials, the amount of r&d it took to develop, labour, etc it all adds up
@commandercody6937
@commandercody6937 Жыл бұрын
Could easily be both
@fukukforever
@fukukforever Жыл бұрын
USA gives 100 billion to Ukraine!! Letter is essential lol
@jackieqiu7139
@jackieqiu7139 Жыл бұрын
Out did yourself with the scoreboard! Bravo!
@oceanreef2132
@oceanreef2132 Жыл бұрын
That being said.......this was the most I've ever been interested in what was happening to date. Good on Ya!!!!!! 5 Stars!!!!!
@masterofpuppets4771
@masterofpuppets4771 Жыл бұрын
It would be extremely interesting if in a cost battle like this the battle would continue and we would see the ships using long range atg missiles e.x. tomahawks,kh's ext. The ground forces have a few sams to fight them. And in wave 3 or in another video altogether attacking bandits who survived would also go back to the carrier and rearm to atg configurations trying to destroy a couple airbases or headquarters. With the rest of the Indians in this case trying to minimaze the damage with whatever they can scramble and rearm. Tho it will probably turn out to be an hour long video:)
@VivekSingh-fb8vp
@VivekSingh-fb8vp Жыл бұрын
Just wanna say Dope 👍 Great job from India🇮🇳
@paulybassman7311
@paulybassman7311 Жыл бұрын
Loved that! 👍GR 🤪✌️🇬🇧
@BLR_travel
@BLR_travel Жыл бұрын
Indians gonna get pissed in the comments lol! My apologies, as an Indian for any butthurt Indians here. Keep up the great videos my friend :) Love your scenarios and looking forward to more.
@smyers820gm
@smyers820gm Жыл бұрын
I’m not Indian and I’m not pissed but I do find this scenario a little off. I don’t believe they could stop bramos that easily. I’m not saying they could have sunk the whole fleet but I also don’t think only 1 would make it through 🤷‍♂️
@aniketdebnath3082
@aniketdebnath3082 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to be so apologetic. I don't know why most Indians especially people like you have so much inferiority complex. Always apologizing everywhere even if nothing has happened...
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
@@smyers820gm Brahmos is ancient
@smyers820gm
@smyers820gm Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 so? 🤷‍♂️
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
@@smyers820gm Seems decent in this video game
@keysersoze_6
@keysersoze_6 Жыл бұрын
Why put the unequal numbers of fighters? I looks like lose scenario for indians.
@jamison884
@jamison884 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! The only thing that caught my eye was China will always win this matchup. They had double the checks and six escort ships versus half the aircraft, which were then split again with only half air-to-air. A larger Indian attack force would make it spicier.
@Dangermonkey1000
@Dangermonkey1000 Жыл бұрын
its not easy to counter brahmos.....in real world
@Ayush-vy2kq
@Ayush-vy2kq Жыл бұрын
You forgot Indian aircraft carrier loaded with Brahmos? Submarines? Frigates...it will never be possible for China to come this close with their carrier haha
@ananddarnal6702
@ananddarnal6702 Жыл бұрын
Andaman: let me introduce myself
@MrCastodian
@MrCastodian Жыл бұрын
@@Ayush-vy2kq No, obviously not, they probably can’t sail that far and the ships would sink by themself? Or, would a real Chinese attack have more destroyers and frigates in the strike force then India have total ships? And supported by cruise/ballistic missiles and drone strikes that rained down on Indian bases and ships a month before China attack?
@MrCastodian
@MrCastodian Жыл бұрын
@@ananddarnal6702Nice, do that, and the Chinese sail around… Or start the war when their navy already are in the Indian Ocean, bypassing Andaman totally?
@zlayo_cro
@zlayo_cro Жыл бұрын
The I-Derby ER is from Israel, not the EU. You should change the flag in that missile overview. Also, the MICA comes in IR and Radar (RF) guided versions, so the empty stations on a Rafale where no Meteor could be carried - they could carry MICA RF.
@MrCastodian
@MrCastodian Жыл бұрын
Why did not the destroyers open fire? It’s just a fast missile, no problem to detect it and get a lock, plenty of missiles in the ships that can shoot it down.
@user-mt1xj1zd8u
@user-mt1xj1zd8u Жыл бұрын
Good video and I appreciate all the work put in it, just a note that India is currently developing brahmos NG that will be half the weight of present brahmos and 2/3rd of the size so that a single Su30Mki can carry 3 of those missiles with same extended range. Also I was thinking if china is attacking our coast don't we have coast guards big ships and our naval assets with ground launched brahmos and other defences. At the end it was very nice to watch this episode.
@dkbros1592
@dkbros1592 Жыл бұрын
He just white mam with fantasy brother Bhramose is hypersonic and can't be stopped by anything
@VideosfromaSailor
@VideosfromaSailor Жыл бұрын
Dont even bother buddy, here in this video they are giving maximum speed of brahmos as 2.5 mach (biggest joke) as it is one of the fastest supersonic missile (mach 3.5-4.5). Very easy. And one guy is acquiring a freaking supersonic missile and even shooting it with AAM. HAHA
@dkbros1592
@dkbros1592 Жыл бұрын
@@VideosfromaSailor ya how can they shoot down an supersonic missile lol 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@Mahesh_Patil_
@Mahesh_Patil_ Жыл бұрын
@@VideosfromaSailor 🤣
@Mahesh_Patil_
@Mahesh_Patil_ Жыл бұрын
@Random Good Videos shooting down brahmos.....biggest joke I've ever came across
@valuedhumanoid6574
@valuedhumanoid6574 Жыл бұрын
I just watched the video about the dust up between China and India over some contested mountain territory. None of them had rifles or any firearms, just clubs and fist. Now THAT is old school combat! But those small skirmishes are what lead up to full scale battles like we're watching here. I get the magazine Proceedings and they have had several military analyst that believe the next conflict will be between India and China. Territory, resources and trade routes.
@cassius_eu5970
@cassius_eu5970 Жыл бұрын
I doubt that luckily. These small border skirmishes have been going on for over 70 years and have never escalated beyond small scuffles and unarmed fist-fights. The current border between China and India was unilaterally drawn by the British during India's colonial period, without doing an actual survey of the area. China and India later disagreed on this British-setup border, and India gained control of Arunachal Pradesh while China gained control of Aksai Chin. China is proposing a settlement of the disputes, with China giving up claims on Arunachal Pradesh and India giving up claims on Aksai Chin, meaning that both countries would simply acknowledge the reality of how these territories have been administered ever since the areas had been liberated from British occupation. However, India has so far refused. I suppose this is due to domestic political considerations, but considering that these areas are of little value anyways and that one de facto already belongs to India and the other de facto already belongs to China, it would be such a simple solution to ease tensions. Hopefully, cool heads will prevail and agree to a peaceful compromise.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
India is still working on sewers for their main cities.
@themacker894
@themacker894 Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@lohrtom
@lohrtom Жыл бұрын
Tasty battle!
@drewfierman3834
@drewfierman3834 Жыл бұрын
great video cap, but wouldn't flankers on both sides be carrying wingtip ECM pods?
@siddharthsahu7123
@siddharthsahu7123 Жыл бұрын
Sukhoi 30 mki should use Astra BVR missiles insted of Iderby ER.
@christophero55
@christophero55 Жыл бұрын
Cap: "If all those Brahmos' had gotten through everything would be dead." Maybe, if the missiles locked onto different ships but the ones that did get through all went for one destroyer. We have seen that a lot of these naval battles where many missiles will get through but will slam into the same ship over and over turning what would have been an annihilation of a fleet into a much smaller loss. I think one thing these Wargames have shown us is that having anti-ship missiles that can communicate with one another and deconflict/spread out their attack on multiple ships is absolutely essential in the future. I've learned a lot from these simulations. Very informative.
@fukukforever
@fukukforever Жыл бұрын
Reality is pretty different! Brahmos actually showcase it's capabilities in Mia chanu! Where unarmed brahmos got misfired (test fired for a reason) in Pakistan !! As a result : every single AD is failed to intercept it! And it hit Pak deep inside 124 KM! And the noticable things are! All the air defence systems which Pak have is advance Chinese AD which china is using for there warships !
@oceanreef2132
@oceanreef2132 Жыл бұрын
Please make it big enough that it can be seen so we don't have to use a phone to actually see what is in the upper right hand corner. Please and thank you. Also now you have to do alot of these because this is a game changer lol
@patriot0971
@patriot0971 Жыл бұрын
PL-15, looks like 1000 mile range ...lol. also intercepted a supersonic cruise missile head-on while executing a turn. Bravo lol
@robjohnson5872
@robjohnson5872 Жыл бұрын
Nice use of the latest Military Tech here Cap. (Note - seems like a lot of draw with the use of Indian tech). Seems there a few more capabilities to be modelled for Team India. Have always wondered, do you take into account Maximum Carrier Take-Off Weight when loading out the carrier planes ? I had prior read that Chinese AC planes could only take off with about 50% of fuel and 50% of ordinance. Does the new EMAL allow 100% ? GREAT video - way fun.
@aryaputram
@aryaputram Жыл бұрын
He is biased as didn't include Astras, vikrant carrier and real bramhos
@Gongolongo
@Gongolongo Жыл бұрын
Bruh he isn't biased, it's a game. China is also not modeling modern destroyers, carrier AWACS and J-31/35.
@sneedsfeed757
@sneedsfeed757 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for it 👍👍
@Taoweiji
@Taoweiji Жыл бұрын
GR, more carnage, more chaos, fly, shoot, die, repeat! Please run this scenario again, with some tweaks: run it to the death, 2 respawns, insert Indian Navy assets. Super duper awesome!
@rnash999
@rnash999 Жыл бұрын
I demand you use Lakhs and Crores when counting the Indian losses in order to maximize confusion.
@DK-ig8zi
@DK-ig8zi Жыл бұрын
Rafale can carry much more meteor than 4. Its just that 4 is the current configuration for the french air force because there is a low number of meteor in active service
@castleincorporated
@castleincorporated Жыл бұрын
Grim you guys are the best.
@miheeragnihotri6288
@miheeragnihotri6288 Жыл бұрын
And then, in the middle of it all 6 low flying SEPECAT Jaguars come out of no where to take down the carrier strike group....:D
@ofir123456789o
@ofir123456789o Жыл бұрын
The I-Derby ER is Israeli, not European
@marimuthu14
@marimuthu14 Жыл бұрын
So back to the age old question. Which is better? Supersonic anti-ship or subsonic stealth anti-ship? Brahmos or Lrasm? I hope there's a DCS showdown made on this topic.
@Tounguepunchfartbox
@Tounguepunchfartbox Жыл бұрын
Stealth. Once hypersonic cruise missiles start getting introduced, those will be the apex. But hypersonic cruise missile will be extremely expensive.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
Brahmos is ancient tech
@marimuthu14
@marimuthu14 Жыл бұрын
@@Tounguepunchfartbox looks like China already unveiled world first hypersonic anti-ship missile YJ-21.... so we have LRASM... Brahmos.. YJ-12... YJ-21... I hope this is like in the tortoise vs hare story where the tortoise will win. I know we have a very sneaky tortoise but somehow not very convinced tortoise gonna win this time.
@itshawkeye9129
@itshawkeye9129 Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 Yeah, as ancient as a rock really, smh
@akashn53
@akashn53 Жыл бұрын
Brohmos speed is 3.5 Mack not 2.5... Range is 450 miles today Less than 1 m accuracy can dive at 90° at end Ancient 😂 rights... And fighter jet missile destroy brohmos at 3.5 is joke😄...jet speed are 2 mack
@Tinderchaff
@Tinderchaff Жыл бұрын
Simba is only half correct, the Rafale pilot both ejected and didn't. At 28:18 you can still see him sitting quite happily in his cockpit as it burns while simultaneously floating in his parachute! Simba managed to faceplant the concrete in the top right :).
@lowtdave
@lowtdave Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting the end play out. I had a good laugh at the j-15 running into the rafale on the runway. AWACS aren't cheap. I did a search for "awacs price". First thing to come up was a story about India procuring 2x AWACS from Israel for a total of $1,000,000,000. Unreal. I'm always impressed with the guys who pilot the B-2s, just for the fact those planes are 2 billion I think a piece. I couldn't imagine having that in my hands.
@neel24neo
@neel24neo Жыл бұрын
India does have long range AAMs. Su 30 standard BVR load out is R-77VV-AE. They also sometimes carry R-27R1/ER1. Both types are being replaced by Astra Mk1. Range wise these are AMRAAM class or thereabouts. Rafale carries Meteor. When it comes to WVRAAM, Su-30s carry R-73, whereas Rafale carries MICA in both RF guided and IR guided versions. BTW it doesn’t seem plausible that a BVRAAM would pick out a sea skimming Mach 3 AshM…
@Anarchy_420
@Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын
3:29 Yo Cap talking about engines please keep in mind The F-15EX has General Electric F110 Engines! Making it faster and more fuel efficient than The F-15C and E! ;)
@jackblack2548
@jackblack2548 Жыл бұрын
Also...India now has the Astra Mk-I and Mk-II and Mk-III are on their way. Plus the Scalp cruise missile with 350 km to 500 km range. Also the Rudram anti - radiation missiles which would also lock horns with AWACS and ship radar systems. India also has new anti ship missile coming from MBDA. So a lot more strike capability!
@amit89amit
@amit89amit Жыл бұрын
Great 👍 simulation. A Request and few points I like to add. A video with defender and attacker reverse role. Its highly unlikely for Chinese navy to be in Indian Ocean. Rather Indian navy in South China sea since China has neighbors are their enemies and friends to India. Usually defender are more in numbers especially in case of navy operations. Also you gave Chinese navy future capability where emals equipped aircraft is operational. But for India you didn't equip them with present capability since you missed on Astra 1,2 bvr missile, brahmos missile with lower speed and range than actual and even greater capability in testing, and are other anti ship missile. Plus anti ship package are always guarded by other fighters. There a slim chance of 3.5 + mach air breathing brahmos be shot by 4.5 + mach pl15 in tail chase mode and that to at sea level where aircraft is below mach 1 so pl15 would need time to reach its maximum speed. Important note: whatever Indian import from foreign country is highly customized than original equipment so its better than equipment operated by that foreign country be Rafale, su30, apache or brahmos.
@shtorm2616
@shtorm2616 Жыл бұрын
@Grim Reapers IIRC, the Brahmos only has a range of arnd 120km when in full sea skimming mode and 300km in a hi-hi-lo flight pattern which makes it much easier to detect and shoot down. In full sea-skimming mode for the air-launched version it will prob be arnd 200km because it will have to accelerate less than in ground launched.
@itshawkeye9129
@itshawkeye9129 Жыл бұрын
Depends if the extended range version of Brahmos are being used, afaik they are extending range in phases being 450km, 600km, 800km. 800km being the full range achieved by Russian sister missile Oniks.
@tarmin1711
@tarmin1711 Жыл бұрын
Shut up noob, the latest brahmos tested is at 700 km range.
@Lexxrand
@Lexxrand Жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@Filo-qn8pj
@Filo-qn8pj Жыл бұрын
NEW VID AGAIN LETSSSS GOOOOOOO
@maitreytelang2312
@maitreytelang2312 Жыл бұрын
20:20 IAF's Su-30MKI fleet use the Astra Mk.1 as their primary BVRAAM along with the KIRNITI SAP-518 EW Pods. Thus, the Astra Mk.1 become a feasible BVRAAM cause the opponent cannot shoot down a Su-30MKI until it gets past the EW Pods' jamming.
@maitreytelang2312
@maitreytelang2312 Жыл бұрын
@SHASHWAT SINGH Bro, if the Su-30MKI is carrying its Israeli EL/M-8222 Jammer, opposing fighter cannot fire until the burn past its jamming. That’s around 100-80 Kilometers. Thus, even if the opposing fighter is carrying that PL-21 missile, it will still not be able to use its range advantage. But it’s heavy weight will not allow it to maneuver. Contrastingly, India’s light and fast Astra Mk1 can easily shoot down the opposing fighter. That is why it makes such a big difference.
@lunarnite3495
@lunarnite3495 Жыл бұрын
PL-15 range has been severely inflated in the game... Actual range is around 90+ miles only (145km)
@adassdawdad
@adassdawdad Жыл бұрын
PL-15E Export Trade 145 KM , PL-15 180-185 KM Self-use
@lunarnite3495
@lunarnite3495 Жыл бұрын
@@adassdawdad lol made up figures? 😂
@shivangmishra9325
@shivangmishra9325 Жыл бұрын
@@adassdawdad pakistani claim that u guys gave them 300km version 😆
@MrCastodian
@MrCastodian Жыл бұрын
No
@Kevin-hb7yq
@Kevin-hb7yq Жыл бұрын
Exciting!
@veryyes8561
@veryyes8561 Жыл бұрын
WAKE UP HONEY NEW GR CARRIER BATTLE
@josephpenn1115
@josephpenn1115 Жыл бұрын
I've seen diagrams showing that the Rafale can carry up to 10 Meteors if they used all their weapon pylons for them and carried two drop tanks.
@johnarrowsmith5847
@johnarrowsmith5847 Жыл бұрын
It can't. It only has the interface capable of connecting with Meteor on 4 points. They're currently reviewing this and may add another 2, but it can't hold 8 because the other points aren't strong enough. Any diagram with 10 is nonsense.
@josephpenn1115
@josephpenn1115 Жыл бұрын
@johnarrowsmith5847 Thank you, I remember seeing it on Dassault's website, but I was pretty confused by it.
@anootoshsarkar686
@anootoshsarkar686 Жыл бұрын
And about that Brahmos, you did'nt consider one being fired from a Submarine did ya?? The Indian Ocean is fraught with Scorpene class Subs equipped with Submarine launched Brahmos and don't forget the Torpedoes before any of that
@IronHidevlogs
@IronHidevlogs Жыл бұрын
Good work come up with more such interesting videos like adding submarine to the fleet anti ship mines And special India vs China face to face army fight
@choctaw2sticks193
@choctaw2sticks193 Жыл бұрын
good one, you guys . . .
@flickingbollocks5542
@flickingbollocks5542 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to war-game an EQUAL IN COST: in as many billions as the servers will allow: NATO v BRICS carrier groups in Straits of Malacca or Hormuz? -India +Iran +Argentina +Israel for NATO
@AMMINUSAARNAV
@AMMINUSAARNAV Жыл бұрын
Good video . You are gonna annoy some Indians for some reason no one knows (From an Indian)
@dkbros1592
@dkbros1592 Жыл бұрын
Ya but I'm laughing at an western fantasy lol 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 How can they have defence from an hypersonic missiles lol 😂🤣🤣 Fantasy And ur not Indian btw 🤣
@dkbros1592
@dkbros1592 Жыл бұрын
Na we should be annoyed by weird white fantasy lol 😂🤣 Ya bhramose can be stipe is like u born without ur mother lol 😂🤣
@AMMINUSAARNAV
@AMMINUSAARNAV Жыл бұрын
@@dkbros1592 I AM Indian Look my channel
@rudrakshsinghkatal5609
@rudrakshsinghkatal5609 Жыл бұрын
Well the scenario is biased and unrealistic. He didn't factor in the presence of indian naval assets and he used lesser no. Of aircraft to counter a larger force.
@travancorebiker
@travancorebiker Жыл бұрын
Make that as reasons you don't know
@svenskdod
@svenskdod Жыл бұрын
Was the LRASM maybe given a skightly too big radar cross section last time? Maybe between the last one and the first one somewhere?
@sebbe_as7333
@sebbe_as7333 Жыл бұрын
I love the taxpayer addition
@max2008abhi
@max2008abhi Жыл бұрын
And the rafale can carry 8 meteors, not 4.
@johnarrowsmith5847
@johnarrowsmith5847 Жыл бұрын
It can't. It only has the interface capable of connecting with Meteor on 4 points. They're currently reviewing this and may add another 2, but it can't hold 8 because the other points aren't strong enough.
@aniketdebnath3082
@aniketdebnath3082 Жыл бұрын
Why in game PL 15 has a range of 122 Nm or 225 Km which isn't even real. Where actually in recent documents shows a range in the ball park of 80 Nm or 145 Km. It's kinda impossible to have a range of 122 Nm in that size and diameter even if it's using a dual pulse rocket motor...
@bussolini6307
@bussolini6307 Жыл бұрын
the 145KM are for the export version of the PL-15, which is called PL-15E
@aniketdebnath3082
@aniketdebnath3082 Жыл бұрын
@@bussolini6307 Yup .... I know that. But If you see it is completely impossible to have 80 km more range over its export variant which has similar dimensions. Mate it's physics you can put a finite amount of propellant in that finite dimension. It is possible to have max 20 km more range over its export counterpart but 80km is comical... And sounds like propaganda.
@dravenvea2605
@dravenvea2605 Жыл бұрын
The destroyers just stand by and look wow🤣
@Griff942
@Griff942 Жыл бұрын
That would be an Airhead, not a Beachhead. Great Videos.
@vector8877
@vector8877 Жыл бұрын
The Brahmos in real life is alleged to be a stealthy, supersonic anti ship missile. So I think in DCS the KH 61 when used in battles like these should be modified to have a slightly stealthy nature. Ofcourse not as much as LRASM but definitely better than most missiles.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
Old tech
@skatman3278
@skatman3278 Жыл бұрын
It's not stealthy IRL.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
@@skatman3278 And outdated
@LokeshMeena-je4qb
@LokeshMeena-je4qb Жыл бұрын
@@chuckfarley4130 mmmmmmm I doubt there's another cruise missile that can perform target discrimination against land targets at supersonic velocities.
@LokeshMeena-je4qb
@LokeshMeena-je4qb Жыл бұрын
@@skatman3278 block-3 variant has a carbon composite airframe, there's definitely some signature reduction going on there
@Filo-qn8pj
@Filo-qn8pj Жыл бұрын
First (WOOOOOO)
@Call-me-Avi
@Call-me-Avi Жыл бұрын
That shooting down sea skimming supersonic missiles sure looks realistic. Lmao. Also sukhois now use Astra missiles and not Mica or whatever fox 3 these Su30 mki were using.
@willwozniak2826
@willwozniak2826 Жыл бұрын
Just buried my Stepdad yesterday...this will help forget!...thanks Reapers!
@grimreapers
@grimreapers Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear this :(
@willwozniak2826
@willwozniak2826 Жыл бұрын
@@grimreapers Thanks guys.
@roshanchachane142
@roshanchachane142 Жыл бұрын
Brahmos can take a sharp 90-degree turn as it did in the apparent accidental launch of a Brahmos inside Pakistani territory. So, you forgot to include the manoeuvrability of Brahmos. The missile also coincidentally avoided the populated area and accurately landed on an empty factory. China would be extremely lucky to even shoot down a single Brahmos. Ohh, and I forgot to mention that Brahmos' speed is 3-3.5 mach, not 2 mach.
@chuckfarley4130
@chuckfarley4130 Жыл бұрын
Sure, Jan
@mattseller148
@mattseller148 Жыл бұрын
Brahmos is a great missile (one of the best current ashms) but the chinese sam net on their ships is extremely advanced, almost as advanced as US Aegis system, so shooting down mach 3-3.5 manuvering missiles would be very doable. Current US simulations show that 1 Brahmos has about a 35% chance (the best of any simulated threat) to get through the defense network of 1 unsupported Burke class destroyer, so a 053C of the PLAN would do just a little worse.
@roshanchachane142
@roshanchachane142 Жыл бұрын
@@mattseller148 I would love to see how aegis or Chinese Defense systems perform when Brahmos performs an S manoeuvre right before hitting the target.
@mattseller148
@mattseller148 Жыл бұрын
I already said that the USN carried out hundreds of simulations of 1 Aegis Burke destroyer vs a variety of missiles including YJ-12, P-700, P-800, P-1000, and Brahmos. Brahmos’s maneuverability was taken into account and was why it was estimated to have a 35% chance of breaking through a Burkes defenses, compared to say P-800 which was estimated to only have a 12% chance. The Burke is almost certainly the best defended destroyer on earth so the fact that Brahmos was this effective is testament to how lethal it is. The USN considers Brahmos the deadliest AShM on earth and this is why during joint IN and USN drills they love to both practice against Brahmos equipped ships and do this cool offensive defense thing where they pair a Burke up with a Brahmos equipped ship.
@rudrakshsinghkatal5609
@rudrakshsinghkatal5609 Жыл бұрын
@@mattseller148 but how about 80 brahmos on a single CV
@vikkycb7948
@vikkycb7948 Жыл бұрын
I always have same problem with these set pcs. Attack happens from 1 direction. Do this attack from 2 directions (something that was proven in ww2) and send the anti ships first they fire coming in low and turn back. the Anti air component comes 2nd and gives dilemma to defenders on whether to counter anti air or anti ships.
@danmorgan1729
@danmorgan1729 Жыл бұрын
New scoreboard is lit
@BholeBoy
@BholeBoy Жыл бұрын
You choose the wrong location India has lot of active assets in that area. Pune, karwar. Airforce and navy bases.
@emmalyotier777
@emmalyotier777 Жыл бұрын
You should add a % of Military budget statistic to the scoreboard
@HPTOperator
@HPTOperator Жыл бұрын
Could you do an updated review of the mods your channel has been using?
@saurabhsood8268
@saurabhsood8268 Жыл бұрын
India also has land based anti ship and submarine fleet
@yashvasudev9245
@yashvasudev9245 Жыл бұрын
That was fun ,reality is different, hope and pray that never happens,all yr best of simulated modes and models will go for toss, never ever imagine that,u did ,great,try more improvements can guide u on it
@marinuslubbe3993
@marinuslubbe3993 Жыл бұрын
The improvements with the kill count and the money spent are really nice. I feel like it would be better for the India side to use more planes so they are closer to the chinese numbers. It would be more fair since they have the numbers. Also was there something wrong with the chinese dd's? They didn't fire a single AA missle to defend from the brahmos. They are not stealthy so they should see them. I can't wait for the type 055 and 052D mods to be ready. The step up in capabilities from the 052C's are enormous.
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