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00:01 Focus on the pain and struggle to align with what you can accomplish. 01:27 Discipline equals the importance of the goal and psychological enjoyment minus the psychological cost. 02:46 Health is the first priority for everything I love and care about. 04:05 Discipline is the key to effective time management and life choices. 05:23 Discipline equation is crucial for staying on track 06:40 Discipline equation: behavior will occur if positive outcome minus friction exceeds zero. 07:56 Many people are driven by pain rather than pleasure. 09:21 Deep shame and insecurity drove me to obsessiveness. if useful for you , than like my comment

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Thanks for having me on bro! Loved this conversation

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Thank you Chris. You, Steven, Peterson, Huberman and Jocko have made such a powerful contribution to humanity by making such valuable content available for free. You've all changed my life, and continue doing so, by sharing these mindful episodes where deep, critical thinking and knowledge are shared as if you're just at the pub. The world's your pub now, and I hope I'm one day able to buy you a beer sometime.

The Discipline Equation: Discipline = Importance of the Goal + Psychological Enjoyment - Psychological Cost. Example: Simon Sinek taking the bins out involves high importance (avoiding fines) and low enjoyment, but the high importance ensures the task is done.

So great to see you guys have a conversation to get questions asked so well to frame for Steve's takeaways from his interviews. Such a great communication between you both. Thanks to you both.

The discipline equation discussed here is a powerful way to understand how our behaviors are influenced. It's all about balancing the importance of a goal, the psychological enjoyment we derive from pursuing it, and the psychological cost. This equation, as explained by Stephen, can apply to various aspects of our lives, from fitness to creative pursuits. It's a reminder that discipline often involves finding the right balance between these factors. Just as Mark Manson's quote highlights, it's crucial to consider what pain we're willing to endure in our pursuit of meaningful goals. This insight from Stephen resonates with me and echoes the teachings of @LisaHaisha, who emphasizes the importance of self-discovery and self-acceptance in our journey to live authentically and purposefully.

This is such an interesting and valuable subject matter. Many people don't realise that recovering from past trauma and difficulties involves the pain of revisiting these and the pain of doing work on yourself in order to change the future outcome. So there is pain involved, always... but if you are prepared to put yourself through this pain the future can be massively changed.

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- “The most important question to ask is what pain do you want in your life, what are you willing to struggle for? Anything worthwhile is going to require some degree of pain and struggle, so if your oriented towards the pain and struggle your probably going to be more aligned with what your capable of accomplishing, rather than if you just orientate towards the pleasures” - Mark Manson - Discipline Equation: Discipline = The importance of the goal + the psychological enjoyment you get in the pursuit of the goal - the psychological cost of the pursuit of the goal - If you want to do achieve a goal you can put things in the way of your daily life that would force you to complete and progress you further towards your goal (Ex. Steven Barlett wanted to be a DJ but wouldn’t put any practice into it then he put his DJ kit in the kitchen and every time he went to eat he’d be reminded of it and end up going for 4 hours without even realizing it) - Make it as easy as possible to do or to start doing - Are you driven or are you drove, are you trying to prove someone who said you’ll never do something wrong or are you trying to prove someone who supported you right?

You two are just so great at building on eachothers intellect and ideas, makes for a really entertaining and insightful listen.

If pain tolerance exceeds the desire to quit...then that goal is worth pursuing

Chip on my shoulder because of being called stupid by my family and husband…. drove me to get my Masters and then a PhD. That was to prove to myself that I was OK. They tried to discourage me but I kept going. Driven. Left them in my dust. I was never the problem, they were. Revenge is a dish best served cold. I won.

I am a 66 y.o man who has lived a comfortable life and never had discipline or purpose that has been worth anything. After watching Steve's views on discipline, it has given me a different perspective and I'll be watching the full version of the interview, buying the book and looking at what I can do to add both discipline and value to what's left of my life. Thanks for the insight

7:48 ... You just described the moment when an elite athlete starts to self-question whether to continue ... when the "friction" starts to increase, and the "desire/reward" quotient wavers. Such is the case in all industries, fields and professions.

Steven is such an insightful person. Love him.

Love the equasion variables! One thing I would consider is instead of adding and subtracting, maybe you could use multiplying and dividing. That way the total effect is more compounding than linear, which seems like it could be the case.

Two of my favorite people right here. So looking forward to the full episode. Keep after it, wise sirs.

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The podcast sets always look amazing

Two of the best interviewers in the Podcast Ecosystem face off LIVE across a table! Two men enter. No one leaves (for a few hours)!

Thanks. Some people are already in a bunch of pain, usually because of stuff that happened before they even had a chance to get proactive. That means anyone with any sort of health and cultural capital needs to listen to this and help others. Why? You’ll feel proud of yourself and it’s the right thing to do. Cheers!! Stay compassionate.

Thanks!

One of the best clips I’ve ever watched. I’d encourage everyone to use the matrix to assess different examples in your own life and then it will become clear why you’re not doing something. Then if you want to start doing it you have to address the 3 parts and make them easier/more enjoyable/ less costly.

Yesss, can't wait for this one!

the way I describe it has always been "you don't lack time, you lack prioritization"

I like the sound of that equation, I'm going to apply to some personal aspects and see where it takes me. I wouldn't want to say I've been in a rut for a little bit, but I've recently got into a hamster wheel, so maybe it'll help with some sort of direction... something you've shown discipline in: 1. how much it matters - /10 2. enjoyment from the pursuit - /10 3. amount of friction involved - /10 (1+2)-3=

Bro thank you ❤

A friend of mine suggested ur channel,and I never regretted my decision

Yesss… Steven Bartlett 🙌🏽 I was waiting for this interview!

Can’t wait for the full episode. Inspirational 🙏

These men are valuable to have on line. Learned a lot today from them.

This really is life changing advice! Thank you so much for sharing!

I really connect to where Steven realised all the time management techniques were pointless without a core issue being addressed that facilities them all. I’ve come to the realisation that no amount of techniques for taking action and pursuing what you want to pursue are going to work if you don’t see a point to your self and life. If you perceive yourself as being utterly pointless, you will never see the point in any atomic habit, building and executing any routine, because the foundation is missing and it’s all inherently pointless. Your view of yourself has to be that you, and therefore improving you, are worth it and will mean anything in the world

Steven I'm loving this so much. My analytical part of my brain is absorbing everything like a sponge. Then, the roulette chip analogy is really solidifying the perspective.

2 great minds meeting together is truly remarkable

Two of the best interviewers in the world, in my opinion.

Thoroughly enjoyed this topic and will definately use these technics

The two GOATS having a conversation. Let’s gooooo 🐐

Incredible!!! ❤🫀♥️ Thank you 💪🏼✨

Great conversation between you both..

Great collaboration, love Steve...love this podcast 💛

Looking Forward for this!! Great people

Nice lesson yar just inbelivable

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Love the quote at the beginning💯

Got to say, Steven's equation makes a lot of sense. At least for me.

"He who has a why can bear almost any how" // Friedrich Nietzsche

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This was excellent and so true

Amazing, thanks...

What a great pair of minds

Does it start as you loving the goal & its journey (no matter the sacrifice), then in time you ultimately loving the outcomes of the goal more... & doing the prev. steps to maintain the goal knowing they are obligatory, so less loved.

@Chris Williamson , Hey Chris !! 07:48 , You guys were talking about Steven’s Meditation Practice, How his Why wasn't Strong enough !! & the evidence on meditation as well (It was incomplete). Could you Clarify more on it , specially more on the “evidence part of meditation” ? Thanks !!

The "pain" argument is not transferable nor a static framework. If ever you want to consider using it, it has to be dynamic. Pain or resilience thresholds are different for many people. And they benefit and hinder different aspects. We complicate sh*t way to much. If you honestly believe/know that, it must/should be done or that you need/want it, you'll actually do it. Using the rubbish bin example; if you do not want to sit in a house of sh*t and disgust, then you will clean your f-ing house. You also know, it needs to be done otherwise x,y,z cost will be incurred.

I think my question is “how do you care about (the) grind”?

Wow cool video!! So insightful 😊🎉

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Love this black and white interaction! 🧐✍️🧠❤️ You both know what I mean, and I feel free enough to say it like this without fear of being considered anything! I like the work of the two of you! 🙌🏼 Thanks men!

YOOO RICH ROLL FOLLOWED BY STEVEN BARTLETT? CHRIS IS KILLING IT HOLY SHIT CONGRATS BROOOO 🎉🎉

Steven's comments about having 24 chips a day is the same metaphor, in essence, as when Molly Mae said about all having the same 24 hours in a day - yet here it goes completely unnoticed and no one bats an eye. Why I very much respect him for defending her against the backlash. Good video, good talk and a good insight!

Just remember the journey is tough, but so our you.

When man becomes desperate or uncomfortable ,progress begins.- Dr Dk Olukoya

And then there's David Goggins lmao, friction is 10/10 for him, enjoyment? Wtf is that! Running miles at 3 am saying, "they don't know me son" 😂 nobody can inspire me more than Goggins! ❤

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🤔 *The most important question in life is: What pain are you willing to endure for something worthwhile? Aligning with the pain and struggle leads to greater accomplishments.* 01:25 🧠 *Discipline equation: Discipline equals the importance of the goal to you plus the psychological enjoyment in the pursuit, minus the psychological cost of the pursuit.* 02:49 💪 *Importance of the goal, psychological enjoyment, and psychological cost influence discipline. Example: Going to the gym consistently is influenced by the perceived importance, enjoyment, and minimal friction.* 05:11 ⏳ *Discipline in the context of time and death. Understanding the scarcity of time is crucial for effective time management, and discipline is the underlying factor for successful time allocation.* 06:48 🔄 *Setting up an environment to reduce friction and increase discipline. Placing things in a way that makes it harder to avoid them encourages consistent practice or behavior.* 07:57 🔥 *The role of pain and the "why" in driving discipline. Whether driven or dragged by past experiences, understanding the source of motivation is key to sustaining discipline.* 09:21 🎧 *Epidemic Sound sponsorship message. The importance of quality sound design in videos and the benefits of using Epidemic Sound for copyright-free music and sound effects.* Made with HARPA AI

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I think the discipline of enduring the grind you choose is very different, but no more admirable or remarkable, that the grind and pain imposed upon one because of circumstance.

Something is missing from the discipline equation, which is the perceived ability to achieve the desired goal: your sense of hope and the belief that the pursuit ultimately will be fruitful.

You are amazing ❤

Your emotions dgaf about your results! Keep grinding and the rest will follow. You got this!

Discipline= (importance of goal + phycological enjoyment) - phycological cost

Im convinced Steven and Chris are the same person in a Parallel universe.

Awesome video

if you're here then congratulations on your first step to the best of you

Dopamine - Limbic Friction Motivation is the initial dopaminergic indicator for pursuit. Pleasure from pursuing a task is the continuous outflow of dopamine. Limbic friction is just a word used for the hump of commencing a task.

is it bad to be dragged instead of driven ?

When you get direct rewards for your input correlating with the output, you'll grind.

We do this risk reward assessment subconsciously all the time. Going back it would be "how important is it that I get to this honey in order not to starve" vs "how many bee stings am I willing to take for it". That decision would have been made almost instantly. Now days, I'm guessing none of the viewers are starving and bee stings are quite abstract.

Chris, think about how it all started with “Scotty doean’t know”. Started as a shallow soundtrack and became so profound understanding about relationships

Actually starting into Junger’s “On Pain” this morning 😊

Wow, really interesting episode. I would even add social conformity (+) or social resistance (-) could be added to the discipline equation. Social pressure is a powerful extrinsic force in its own right. Like if you agree.

Can someone explain me what they mean by psychological cost and the friction in their conversation?

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note: i think there are like X different type of people, for some this work, for others some1 elses method works, try and test until u find out what works for u, and in some cases, works today, but when u down, then it dosent work, so find what works when u are down. very cool

My two favorite hosts collide!

I knew his voice would sound like this

Bravo bro👏👏👏

Fascinating insights 👍

The profound message in this podcast should not be underestimated. Fucking go get yours!!!

i fw with this guy.

It's about pain reallocation. Imagine a box: On one side you have the pain associated with hard work, discipline, training, commitment... On the other side you have the pain associated with sucking, laziness, not living up to your potential. The bar can move towards either side but it's not about getting rid of pain, but about how much of each kind of pain are you willing to take.

Them: bro wanna pod cast about it, yea man cuz chillin has to be this now, “this too shall pass”

Love these episodes but seems like there’s sooooo much quote reading. I think Rich Roll called one of them “bro science quotes.” Just curious if anyone else is seeing too much of this or is it just me?

keep doing that

Procrastination is not lazy