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I read his book "The Game" like 15 years ago and I am glad to see that his thoughts are still deep and sophisticated.

Social media completely changed dating.

Neil Strauss nails it 100% on every level. It probably doesn't sell like all the other nonsense out there, but his advice is that simple and that true. So refreshing to hear. Key point, people generally look for what underpins the LMS, not necessarily the LMS.

I remember reading his book The Game back in 2008. It wasn't really PUA advice, more of a collection of stories (similar to I hope They Serve Beer in Hell). Pretty good read overall.

Neil really shows why he is a master pickup artist. Perceptive comments and able to get to what really is under the surface.

While LMS undoubtedly play a role in initial attraction, overemphasising these factors can lead to shallow relationships and personal dissatisfaction. Fostering self-awareness, authenticity, and an internal locus of control offers a more holistic and fulfilling relationship approach.

All the lms stuff would probably help but ive got 2 friends who have none of that but have no issues with getting women they like. They are both short asf too. Maybe 5"5 each. But they just have no fear when we go out and the women respond positively each time. Whereas my doubtful ass cant get a match yet alone a number.. Seriously, Doubt is the killer and women can sniff it from a mile away..

I got a lot of women in my prime and I promise you, social media changed everything. Us trying to give these young men out here dating advice based on what worked for us is like us telling you you should have invested in blackrock when you were 6. You were aged out of any type of normal success. Improvise, adapt and overcome.

I just don't care anymore. I've put time and effort into it for 20 years with no results. I'm only bitter with myself I don't hate people for it I'm just tired and don't care anymore.

He looks like the kind of guy that would drive a convertible Mazda Miata

The first few lines of this videos was a big mind boggle the same way Neil felt it. There are some necessary self-awareness, self-learning, and self-love that is missing in boys/men ... okay kids/young adults growing into adulthood. And I think that's the core of the problem here. Skipping steps can really create problems down the line. And I see these kids are eager to learn, but perhaps need to find the right teacher and don't let social media be your sole education on the matter.

I mean he is right, but getting your foot in the door is a huge deal. Every guy who lookmaxed knows how women changed their attitude. And dont you dare using the old " They must be more confident now and thats why" - thats insulting and just wrong. There are many scientific studies that show how much looks affect attraction. And by my personal experience - the better you look - the less you must work and less you can offer in other aspects of your personality.

Perfect video. Excellent. Thank you.

I would consider myself very successful with women and Chris is definitely right. The more successful you are in dating and being able to pick up women, the more you really see the personality traits that are attractive to them. Most of the time, it doesnt align with being a nice, decent person. I definitely didnt feel like I was being true to myself. It literally felt like playing a strategy game and the more you win, the less you want the reward.

Looks, money, status are attributes that maybe successful for short-term "dating," but aren't reliable assets for long-term mating/relationships. Personal attributes like self awareness, integrity, accountability, reciprocity, empathy and humility are more important to maintain a relationship. Without them, you can allure and seduce women, but you can't keep her unless she has low self-esteem and puts up with a man who is self-centered, irresponsible, entitled, arrogant, devaluing, abusive and neglectful just because he's got the LMS and is +6 foot tall.

Neil's book changed my life....showed me how much going down that path wasn't for me. Was very well done and highly entertaining but came out at the time in my life where I was earning real money and had to either wife up or slut up. I hope my wife is happy with my choice...I am.

Genetics are a form of wealth in men.

I was a guy who had to learn PU game to have any sucess with women. I saw that big gap between who I really was and what a PU artist was and didn’t feel comfortable with some of tactics and attitudes. Then I started reading female dating strategy, which completely destroyed the pedestal I had put women on. From there it was easy to adopt PU game tactics.

So good to see him

Social media has changed dating. 19 year old dating millionaires. Regular men and healthy women are so buried under the chaos

nice content

Thanks for sharing, I shared the same feelings as you did. But I realized I should not focus on it and try to be in the moment instead of entertaining feelings like this. How you should handle it is BE ALIVE the same way you always was.. You are you! Being 51 doesn't matter.. LIVE TO THE BEST OF YOUR CURRENT ABILITY. BE I THE MOMENT. READ BOOKS THIS YEAR! HAVE GOALS AND FORGET THESE QUESTIONS. DON'T TRUST EVERYTHING YOUR BRAIN TELLS YOU. LEARN TO LET THINGS GO. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

There are those that prop up their status with the way they show themselves, but don't have the first clue as to be an attractive person. People want a good time.

Safety is really what it is about for reasonable, not crazy women. It only took me sixteen years of gradually destroying a marriage, and another sixteen of contemplation plus watching tons of others in their relationships to figure that out. About crazy wimins, why any man bothers with them, I don't know.

Chris is wearing a BMTH shirt?! Respect...

Good Stuff!

There is an "Employer/Employee" dynamic thats developed between men and women. A lot of women will slot into dynamic in a silent and covert way. I'll give you an example............I got talking to this girl one time and all was going well and then I decided to carry out a little social experiment. She made some sort of dumb comment or made a bad joke or something like that and I laughed and said to her "Dont worry about it, I'll give you another chance", and I made it clear I was very much joking. Well what happened next was an eye opener...........She changed completely, became serious and hissed at me "I'll be the one giving the chances around here, ok?" This was the red flag and I left her to it, having nothing more to do with her. What she showed me in that moment was that she felt like she was in charge, that she was the "Employer" and I was the "Employee" who was required to jump through hoops and chase after her. I had reversed the paradigm and she was furious, offended even. That I would dare place her in the position that she thought men should be, i.e. a position beneath her. And shes not alone, so many women think like this, they've been raised by their mothers and aunts to think like this. So I think men need to be aware of this dynamic and not go along with it because even if you "Get the girl" for the moment, trust me, she will never stop making you jump through hoops and being a dancing monkey. Every man must overcome his own lust, this is what hands women power in the dynamic. Men are hungry for sex and will allow themselves to be manipulated by women because they know men are weak in this way. If you overcome this and get to the point where you are happy without sex(and you absolutely can get there) then watch what happens to that dynamic. Its an underlying shift that takes place and women will sense that they have no power over you. Some will become belligerent and try to passive aggressively attack you, bring you down, most wont be able to figure you out because they're so used to being in the "Employer" seat, it'll confuse them greatly.

My problem with the PUA stuff is mainly that I don’t want to have to play head games to interest someone or keep them interested.

Holy smokes, I am SOO interested in what this guy has to say about the dating game.

There are actually 4: Looks, Money, Status, and Charisma (I’ll including personality, social awareness, under Charisma). LMSC. …. No matter how many or what combination the first three you have, the universal constant you MUST have is charisma… people skills: knowing how to read people, setting boundaries, knowing when they actually like you , when you being taken advantage of etc etc …. if your missing PEOPLE SKILLS you can have any combination of LMS you want , it won’t matter in the long run

You can't find anyone until you get rid of the "fake profile industry "

I am a woman, but from what I know about men it is actually: family, feeling of acomplishment, good supportive lifelong frienships.

Neil Strauss and Mistery good times 🔥, I read the books

4:53 being high value is a multipler. it makes it easier to seduce. makes it easier to trigger the emotions. But if (1) you don't try to seduce or (2) don't k ow how to seduce, then, you'll just end up as the girl's High Value Male friend

Neil Strauss is talking about a period which is 20 - 25 years ago, which is like an eon in modern standards. World has changed unimaginably compared to late 1990s & early 2000s. Most of the things which worked those days have no relevance to now. Growth of internet, social media, smart phones, apps, digital economy, changes in human ideologies & behaviors etc. have changed the dating game by big time.

Talks sense!! 👍👍

Neil Strauss is a realist, and clearly believes in taking personal responsibility for the outcomes of one's actions. When used correctly, The Game was simply a collection of useful behavioural tools and strategies aimed at men who were experiencing disappointing outcomes when it came to meeting and dating women, as well as an invitation to question the received wisdom many men had unconsciously incorporated into their own mindsets. Good interview, Chris!

Basically what he is saying is that the most important thing is that you have to be able to make a great first impression. After that, you really need to be on point with your fitness, finances, personal grooming and style and social skills. Even he would not survive on the dating apps these days because of his height, but he's got enough skills and experience to go out in a public place, play the numbers and find a date.

Oh it’s most definitely looks. My best friend looks like Ken. The amount of women I’ve seen throw themselves at him is mind boggling. It happens so much he’s unfazed by it. A ten of a stripper came off the stage and slipped him her number. They didn’t know if he had money nor did they care

He's 100% right. During High school i started varsity basketball, 6'2, the fittest i had ever been, great curly hair, partied every weekend, but could never get the women i wanted. Until my senior year i decided to get coaching and i spent my last 800$ dollars on a course. Man did it chang e my life. I remember the first video talking about how if you want real success you must abandon in everything you think you know and let him guide you through a series of training videos on how to build the proper mental infrastructure to get women. I shared the course with a friend of mines and it changed his life too. Eventually we started going out and we would be literally running parties to the point that all the women started following us around the party wanted to get noticed by us. Most important we had fun with it all. Stay Focused Guys!

I like how he turned out, definitely my favorite pua.

Styles is Awesome! Sooner or later people will go back to picking up and meeting in person. I don't do stupid online dating. Its the same as submitting your resume to an Employer with ridiculous and unrealistic expectations.

"Looks" (face, body, height, strength, voice, penis, etc) is a former of "money" and "status" in and of itself.

The living legend himself. Amazing that the prodigal son has returned.

Still to this day Neil. Respect

Loving the BMTH t-shirt

The perception of someone taking care of themselves and being capable is what is required to attract someone male or female.

The problem with LMS is that any woman it attracted by the L and the M is immediately disqualified.

Neil. Legend!

NGL that shirt is DOPE Chris! Always glad to see a fellow metal enjoyer.

Well it honestly depends what you’re doing it for. If you just want to have sex with lots of women, then looks, money and status will be good enough to get you that. But if you’re looking for respect, build genuine relationships, and to leave a true impact on others then those 3 alone are insufficient

He is a great writer, and the game was a great book. What was most shocking in the book was despite developing the skill to get any women... he picked a horrible feminist in the end.

Anything that has happened to me with women is completely my fault whether it was good or bad. I think one of the beautiful things about being a man is that you can move things in the direction you want if you know how. We have complete accountability for how women react to us. There's this quote from flcl I always loved. "Nothing will happen until you swing the bat."

I literally dated a rams cheerleader in college. I also got to hang out with guys that drove porsches and one told me he was insecure that is why he had a porsche.

The problem is Neil Strauss never acknowledges that he did, in fact, have a lot going for him that the average guy does not, such as wide access to celebrities.

I thought there were two key comments: 1) LMS will get you in the door, buy one's personality is what keeps the door open; and 2) Chris' comment about men needing to create a persona to attract w0men .. and if the men wanted to maintain that persona, vis a vis what their *actual* persona was, and for how long / is it worth it.

no they haven't. Let me articulate~ rich people talk that money do not give happiness, and engage in champagne socialism. They never workerd several weeks straight 10 hours shifts in factory. High value men, with money and status, will say they struggle. It's a struggle of "what i should have for breakfast, im bored" instead of "it would be nice to have a breakfast". He did made a valid point - it gets you through the door - without it, you are invisible delivery guy. Reality sucks.

8:54 That can on the right has an “eye” logo... interesting...

His question in the beginning "for men?" says it all, lol

5:40 if money is inherited, to what degree does it then reflect competence? And what about low wage jobs? I don't think the relationship between money and other attributes is that clear.

💯% You get what you ARE, not what you WANT: What you frequently see = your frequency. Start embodying the vibes of what you desire as if you already have it, and-according to scripture-you MUST receive it.

Im so happy to see the OG back in the game 😀😀😀😀😀😀

I would aim “game” to that list. Can’t just have looks, money, status if you’re awkward, strange, or creepy.

Wait Chris is a bring me the horizon fan?? I like this guy even more now

Style!

Bring Me the Horizon! Love the shirt Chris.

Game is top of the list.

I bought the book when it came out. I projected a fake mick jagger like persona. It worked for my promiscuous behaviour. For long term relationships it didn't.

no it's looks looks looks. status and money matters if you are lucky.

Be confident.

I chose a 5"7 guy over a 6"3 guy because the tall guy LOOKED safe physically but was actually deeply unsafe emotionally. And frankly the taller guy is more likely to be unsafe BECAUSE he knows he's tall and therefore assumed more desirable. Tall and good-looking men are basically guaranteed to be a holes.

I wouldn't have recognised Neil Straus' face unless he spoke 😂

He's only 5'6"? Most women say they won't date a man under 6' so GAME has to be the most important thing to have.

I read his book and thought everybody in it was a try-hard douche, then decided not to go down that path. I don't chase women who don't chase me back. I do rad shit and have a good life. That's all the game I need.

Social media has changed the equation of attention. Also, the perceived value of any woman. What Neil did/wrote has nothing to do with today.

What was the midget fight story? I never heard that.

We need more Copium Sire. Bring in the chosen one

You could also invite Owen Cook. He is way a better person to talk about this topic.

Like it or not, a basis of Looks, money, status is necessary. You can be as charismatic or good-hearted as you want but nobody wants to marry a homeless guy. Women marry up competence-wise.

Neil Strauss is knee deep in denial.

I think just being super confident/funny does absolutely work, but holy shit if you're a good height you should deffo try and get as jacked as possible, because women absolutely respond well to that. I think some of the older pickup guys, especially RSD, really downplayed the looks factor in getting girls. They often said things like looks don't matter, but they really do - still, what PUAs taught was also true.... EDIT: I'D LOVE TO SEE NEIL ON OWEN COOK'S YT CHANNEL ONE DAY.

So I think he is right when talking about real life interactions, but the online dating world is much more superficial. Within online interactions LMS is king, but it doesn't translate into the real world. Those who aren't able to portray LMS online get little to no attention. If you are able to portray LMS online, but if it isn't true in reality the woman feels lied to when it goes from online to real world so they lose interest. Those men who truly do have LMS tend to be less interested in a serious relationships because they are able to get so much attention from women in online dating. Since online dating is such a big part of the dating scene today, this skews people's view of dating towards what works towards what works online.

I think it's mostly looks (height and face), then it's personality/social skills for guys to be attractive.

You guys are missing the point. He’s a pickup artist. He goes into real life scenarios and attracts women that don’t know him. If you’ve had good experience with that you’d know that it’s not hard to persuade women to like you if you like yourself regardless of money, looks, status. Who they want the most is whoever that makes them feel the most comfortable

Good answer 🎉

Game, Looks, and Money you mean.

So bring me the horizon...

Approaches like LMS fail to realize that their core philosophy generally excludes quality mates. Or, maybe that is their approach.

Style will always be a pua.. Tryina distance himself from his own movement

What is her first question after seeing a guy's picture? Either does he have a gf or what does he do? Take your pick. Whether human behavior and thinking is sad or not, is not an objective fact, and based on this clip I'm not sure anyone should be asking him for advice.

apps f'd it up for this gen. 5s became 8s, 6s 10s... ugly is desirable!

PUA is a grift ... Imagine paying this guys and Mystery 10 K to hang out in Vegas to teach Keno Escalating ?

I think the point is there are things you can do to improve your odds but some of those things involve going against your principles. A bit like taking steroids to help your gains in the gym.

Kid: Mom, can we have Andrew tate? Mom: we have Andrew Tate at home Andrew Tate at home:

Of course a professional scam artist would have a negative take on this.

I won’t bring up the Bring Me the Horizon shirt if you don’t

Literally the plot of Aladdin

lets thank the pick up artist for creating "Stacy"

In Coyote Ugly LMS stood for Lynn Marie Sanford