Modular Fascination (Electronic Beats TV)
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8 жыл бұрынSince the creation of the Eurorack format the modular synthesiser has had an amazing renaissance. You will work hard to find an electronic musician these days who doesn’t use some sort of modular system. In this Tech Talk on EB.TV we dig a bit deeper to grasp this Modular Fascination and understand how these diverse and powerful instruments are being used. The words and wisdom of: Thomas Kircher of Schneiders Laden, Blawan, Kangding Ray, Henning Baer, Smash TV, Tobi Neumann and Alex Krueger help us along the way.
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@budfoon 4 жыл бұрын
The *best* distillation of "why modular?" I've seen. And it justifies my newest bumpertsicker, "My other car is a modular synth"
@vprice509 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get enough of this! One day I shall see a module IRL.
@slowscape 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent mini-doc on the modular world! Thank you for this ✨
@bobirakatoc 8 жыл бұрын
Just Gorgeous.
@fraxis2007 7 жыл бұрын
Schneiders Laden is the hardest shop in the world to find! I went with friends during a trip to see Yello's first gigs at the Kraftwerk club last October, and we must have spent half an hour walking around outside it (downstairs) checking Google Maps before we finally figured out where the entrance was! An absolutely incredible place to visit though.
@ElectronicBeatsTV 7 жыл бұрын
like most of the good things :-)
@retryhikaru184 5 жыл бұрын
I am looking to understand electronic music on a deeper level, you guys helped me with this document a lot.
@jazzbeats8168 4 жыл бұрын
its not entirely true.... they are selling
@musicartgeek 7 жыл бұрын
What Tobi Neumann said. Exactly.
@trushboc 7 жыл бұрын
magnifique, ce reportage, continuez
@felixvanijsbergen4382 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting ! Thanks !
@girlinagale 6 жыл бұрын
This year I made wise decisions, a couple of Mother 32's and a Boss rc 505 loopstation. I know some modularists dislike overdubbing and looping, but for me I wish to create tracks which are musical and recorded into stems so I can then mix them out to album tracks. I shall eventually buy a modular rack, a small travel case with precisely chosen modules, but for now, with a Novation Circuit (wave table synths) I have a gorgeous range of sounds and am making music which makes me very happy.
@retrogazele 6 жыл бұрын
I also cant stress how good the rc 505 is .got one and i save all my ideas there.
@synthdocs6240 7 жыл бұрын
that was great. well made.
@MrDarkSky176 Жыл бұрын
great video some solid artists in there ive been in to modular for years but never "took the plunge" the pandemic saw me finally invest in some modules im now living to buy modules hahaha!
@MaikSchott 4 жыл бұрын
The comment from Blawan "the was a period when I was worried that I bought all this stuff . . . " I remember this situation very good! But after a while keeping busy with that system there comes a positive routine in which you "regain control" over the system. I love the fact - while doing modular sessions -that you do not have to think in an orinary song form like > intro, verse, chorus, middle eight etc. You can build much longer build ups.
@Schnurzbolz 8 жыл бұрын
thomas is such a nice guy, great feature!
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+Schnurzbolz indeed he is
@kaostrip 7 жыл бұрын
ça soul et prend grave la tête ! autant que tous ces bruits qu'ils sortent ! et blawan j'accroche mais alors pas du tout ! c'est lourd, répétitif et totalement figé ce qu'il fait sur vinyl ! ça n'engage que moi 😊
@Durdelly 6 ай бұрын
What’s the name of the track accompanying the video - it’s superb!!
@taaviviikman8648 7 жыл бұрын
Alternative to modular, in terms of controlling the signal how you want, is max/msp and Pure Data.
@kappacape 8 жыл бұрын
Has anybody seen some kind of a introduction video with Thomas Kircher explaining the process of creating sounds with a modular system in Schneiders Laden? I feel like I've seen it somewhere on youtube but can't find it anywhere.
@4FlexxMusic 8 жыл бұрын
Please do more videos like this, I love these so much. Would be great if you could start doing interviews with plugin developers at some point, preferably the more forward-thinking independent ones rather than the industry giants =].
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+4Flexx like Sugar Bytes? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLiFqLyZquDFZWw.html
@4FlexxMusic 8 жыл бұрын
+Telekom Electronic Beats Ah nice, my bad! A few I'd love to see featured would be Audio Damage/U-he/Xfer. Audio Damage have some cool DSP-based hardware now which I'd love hear more about =].
@drkryovak3026 4 жыл бұрын
It's really wild and raw..in a way it's the fun of patching the cables and time just runs away from you when doing so, but when you make a lovely step sequence it just feels amazing Reason 4 was the first ever daw software I purchased also got a Novation X-Station as well..I enjoyed making an Arp and hitting latch and tweaking all the dails. Down the line a brother said I'd like an Korg MS20 Mini and he was right, I was in a music store and messing with it and this ripper of a bass shook the stand it was on and I knew from the moment it was time to take the Korg MS20 Mini home with me and get that bass recorded. I hadn't heard such an aggressive raw tone with so much of a sub punch, too much of my gear was digital trying to be analog but something was lost. Reason ended up getting a mini feature where I could record my Korg MS20 Mini + add effects which is cool.
@chrisstrobel3439 8 жыл бұрын
I'll take a Moog Modular Kieth Emerson edition any day over eurorack, however for us mere mortals on a budget eurorack will do :) Being involved in synths since 1978 I'm thrilled people are getting back into analog modular synths. Myself I've found I can faithfully reproduce the same results as my analog modular rig digitally through VST's, FX plugs, and even IOS apps, but the workflow and hands on knob twisting of modulars has absolutely no equal. This is a very cool video and I appreciate you posting it for the world to see. Two thumbs up :)
@chrisstrobel3439 8 жыл бұрын
P.S. What I do on my Eurorack modular when I get to a patch I need to reproduce later, I take my highres dslr and a softbox light and snap a pic. Probably old hat for veterans, but for someone new who feels a little overwhelmed this might help.
@suntzu6122 7 жыл бұрын
The Keith is 150k :O DAYUM SON!
@Rhythmicons 3 жыл бұрын
The Emerson modular has at least an entire cabinet's worth of blank panels.
@Auxar 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video !
@sirsynth225 7 жыл бұрын
Nice insights on Modular Synthesis - especially comparing to programming in "old languages": do we talk Assembler? PL/1? COBOL? And "connecting" means indeed the modules, but also people!
@amadeuspaulussen 8 жыл бұрын
Super Beitrag, immer wieder eine grosse Freude, Eure Arbeit!
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+Amadeus Paulussen Danke, hören wir gerne
@oostism 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vids...wish there were more like this!! track id at the 6:00 mark?
@reheller 3 жыл бұрын
Still true and valid today!
@BlueWolfSe7en 8 жыл бұрын
Blawan is right about the quality of the sounds. That's what enticed me into modular. There's loads of great sounding soft synths, vst instruments, hardware etc out there & without direct comparison maybe you won't notice. Put it side by side thru some decent speakers & you'll hear it. Thru a big PA it's another world!
@ozorg 8 жыл бұрын
Interessantes Video!
@mej6519 7 жыл бұрын
check out steevio and suzybee, possibly the funkiest modular sound iv heard.
@WalterSchwarzElectronicMusic 7 жыл бұрын
klasse Video , sehr interesant !!!
@ElectronicBeatsTV 7 жыл бұрын
Wenn dich solche Tech Talks interessieren dann schau auch mal hier rein: kzfaq.info/sun/PLfRh37c5lviugeRYrBc-Tp1wrX7OmfR9i
@MrAnselm77 4 жыл бұрын
HEAVY 🔥👊🏿🇨🇦
@wvanboldrik 7 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the song that starts at 1:15? Or maybe the artist or style even?
@gregoryschimanski7689 5 жыл бұрын
Top
@robbertdedeene6480 8 жыл бұрын
Does anybody know what machine is next to blawan at 1:31 ? The one with the 5 cirkels on it and the little display?
@dxtrs_mnpltr 8 жыл бұрын
Its a looper by roland/boss
@sutusmihaly 7 жыл бұрын
...blawan..totally upgraded in modular..big like :-)
@TeeBee303 5 жыл бұрын
Where do you get money to build this German machine !! I would love this but 2 children 1 wife ..... Very impressed. Thank you for this vid. 🇬🇧
@OliverChesler 8 жыл бұрын
Tobi Neumann.... what he says.
@jorgesaid7389 7 жыл бұрын
can you synchronize a roland tr 8 drum machine with a modular doepfer a100 and a moog mother 32 at the same time? how? the mother 32 with midi in but the a100 doepfer??
@aeropilot4419 6 жыл бұрын
jorge said I'm sure there's a midi in module you can buy ... I believe Doepfer and Intellijel both make one, perhaps Pittsburg Modular and Maleko as well ... ask around
@FairuzOsman Жыл бұрын
“Just not use any predetermined systems” while casually posing in front of a rack with 100% make noise modules lol
@channelite 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to visit that Schneider's place.
@cardboardmusic 7 жыл бұрын
Great fun, and certainly a good way of approaching music making. However, I'm surprised at how the first guy (Thomas Kircher?) says that working in other systems isn't really as creative. Those who work in Pure Data/Supercollider/MaxMSP/CSound wouldn't agree I think, they also patch to a certain extent, even if with code. And, you have to understand what can follow what, trigger or simply add to various oscillators, envelopes and filters. In fact in the case of Pure Data you literally patch. However, it is true those sounds are produced digitally, but then you can't have everything - even Dave Smith mixes digital and analogue! Anyhow, great video thanks for posting I'll be watching more, you never know I might just end up at Schneiders Laden.
@delta-9969 7 жыл бұрын
And with pure data you don't have to pay $100, $200, $300 for each tiny module, of which it would take 9 or 10 to make up even a basic synth that you would buy in a store. You turn them around and there is less components and circuitry than a calculator or cellphone, than almost any consumer device, and yet each one costs as much as a major appliance. with modular there is one very great limitation to what you can do -- you are limited by your wallet, which for some of us is the main limitation on everything.
@olecranonrebellion9976 7 жыл бұрын
very true. but you don't need a wall of modules. Moog mother 32s are pretty cheap. id say the teenage engineering op-1 is a great place to start, then eurorack.
@nadeharry 7 жыл бұрын
Endstufe ......fin ....... alles drin...... auf den Punkt ....... der Körper vibriert ....... Gefühle werden analog hörbar. Ich will auch
@ivicaeres280 8 жыл бұрын
@clochardcie9653 4 жыл бұрын
Ce qui est dommage cest que la plupart n'on pas de back groud musical et ça fini avec des blip blop sur un kick :(
@mrelevenerxi 7 жыл бұрын
are u be able to generate drum sound with these modular ? kick , snare hihat ?
@mekohler 7 жыл бұрын
yes, there are even modules dedicated to drum synthesis.
@TheAris621 5 жыл бұрын
@@mekohler One of the artists in this video (Tobi Neumann) actually made a whole video dedicated to creating analog kick drums on a basic modular setup. Look it up if you're interested.
@Rhythmicons 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAris621 Kudos to you for your work and getting on tv!
@Frankie4Kitchtech 8 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for tht... Even if i think this modular thing sometime is going too far... Like boring bleep&lights only performance,,, people want take his modular everywhere but after some initial good time, i start to see the limitation in some live performance like a Surgeon one... Only a small number of producer make magic live set (Blawan, James Holden...) the rest is the result of a sort of fetish Eurocrack or something like tht! In studio can be a must, but for live is really hard to see something better thn porngearboutiquemania!!!
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+MarcO Frankie Costa Paczuski did you see James Holden live? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qMWancecrdfNdqM.html
@Frankie4Kitchtech 8 жыл бұрын
+Telekom Electronic Beats Yes i hv watched ,more or less, all your videos,,, becouse i like your channel a lot... Every week i wait your new video!!! Where are you Christmas is over!!! Another week without video?! Ok no problem buone vacanze!!!
@delta-9969 7 жыл бұрын
well modular synths were never intended as a performance tool and that is the exact reason why the non-modular synths we know today (minimoog, arp odyssey etc) were invented -- as simplified portable instruments that could be more easily performed with, on a stage by a musician.
@olecranonrebellion9976 7 жыл бұрын
true.
@olecranonrebellion9976 7 жыл бұрын
then don't go. simple.
@wurnotantmlb 7 жыл бұрын
When does it started to be cool the fact of refusing any preset?? I'm glad there's people today doing such an amount of several interesting things, what is hard to me is seiing how some of them needs still feel against something to reafirm themselves. This people doesn't really know what saving sounds and instruments takes to the originality or to the control of the proces. Is ridiculus. You can sound however you want if you just employ the same exact efort on composing
@wesleyleigh4063 4 жыл бұрын
Don't know how you found anything said in this video genuinely convincing. it's is a bunch of grown men playing with lego instead of making music.
@allanegleston4931 7 ай бұрын
how much would a $etup like thi$ co$t.? thank you .
@pipihatadelstitel 3 жыл бұрын
it IS fantastic and magical creating music with that systems . but the wonderful thing nowadays is , that a computer with a daw is affordable for nearly anyone . first i think about propellerhead reason . it`s cheap and if you flip to the back of the rack , you got more possibilities to manipulate sound than with this euro rack . the complex 1 one synth in reason is stackable ( ! ) and extremely modular with virtuel cables . or think about the blocks and the possibility of creating synths , samplers , effects in native instruments reactor . so dear schneider guy : please don`t talk about a daw with his `pianoroll ` ( there are thousands of software sequencers and the main sequencer is a hell of a machine ) as a primitive thing . :) . the sound is perfect , too . you`re great - but try to have always poor people in your head . music !
@Noiretranquility 10 ай бұрын
R2D2 snoring 15:55 sounds like that
@ungleich5708 8 жыл бұрын
track id 3:35 ?
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+Ungleich Blawan - Diatonic Valves - Ternesc
@foodstampz 5 жыл бұрын
Women need to use this more..or atleast lay some of these guys.
@advaita9156 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t realise Cillian Murphy was into Eurorack
@christophpietsch4211 6 жыл бұрын
u know... as interesting as everything in this vid is... i F*CKING HATE the way people bitch about everything else outside their own production environment. Yeah I got it - Modular is THE shit, everything else ist just shit… Gimme a f*cking break! We had (and still have!) the same stupid discussion a few year ago with analog vs digital synths… and before that it was hardware vs software… it just gets old! Am I the only person who appreciates ALL the possibilities that the toolbox of electronic music creation delivers???
@atomaalatonal 4 жыл бұрын
i still wait for moogulator teb episode...
@MrPuppette 5 жыл бұрын
kids growing up on DAWs thinking synths are "hands on"!, yeah used to be something called "guitars" too kids
@nym053 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but way to often when I hear people using modular it's to much bleeps and randomness. Makes me tired in the head haha.
@0ooDT 8 жыл бұрын
My main issue with the modular scene is that it's just someone hoping for something good to come from the ether, rather than a direct expression turned into music. Don't get me wrong, people like Richard Devine excel at the use and understanding when it comes to the creation of music with these little modules, the general populace however, look like children playing with a lightbrite that makes noise (and it sounds as such). Most shows I've seen in the Oakland, CA area that center around the use of modular synthesis are mundane, boring, and seem only enjoyable by the person behind the machine.
@dxtrs_mnpltr 8 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with your comment at all. The modular is about experimentation not instant gratification preset machine. You'd be hoping for something good to come out of the ether with ANY instrument if you don't know what you're doing. Once you can play the instrument and you know what you're doing it is just a matter of creativity and talent. Not every guitarrist is jimmy hendrix either you know.
@cardboardmusic 7 жыл бұрын
One thing that strikes me is how everyone talks about being creative, yet the music they seem to compose is very mainstream - although nothing wrong with that I guess.
@delta-9969 7 жыл бұрын
nonmodular synths carry a lot of fundamental assumptions about music because there are actually pretty strict rules to music. There are only 12 notes in western music and only a small subset of the available combinations sound pleasing to the ear. Music is formulaic. There are a few basic rhythms and a few basic scales, not because somebody decreed that all music had to conform to his wishes, but because humans are wired in a certain way and all music shares certain commonalities. You can throw out those rules but then you are not making music anymore, you are sound designing, which is something different.
@olecranonrebellion9976 7 жыл бұрын
this may be so for some listeners, but nothing could be further from the truth as for my experience to the spiritual connection between really all sound, and it stirs my soul. I can hear a train blowing its mid range whistle miles away as I ended that last sentence and instantly recalled a myriad of emotions. I guess I can see my self in the modules. the way the sounds trigger my brain, my mind, as a trigger module stimulates its surrounding companions. its chaos, order, balance, poetry, dance , math, and science, nature woven together by will. the primal essence of the universe. Its very similar to gardening. not all are gardeners. not all appreciate gardening. they probably should though. planting, growing sounds. music.
@olecranonrebellion9976 7 жыл бұрын
I have to laugh when I hear negative statements about synths because when I was a young guitarist in a band I was ignorant, and said similar things about sampling. then I got an art scholarship, an realized there are all kinds of tools that enable me to paint and draw with music. I think of Bob Dylan getting boohooed by his audiences night after night because he went electric. people are afraid of change, of new ideas and sounds. has been this way from the beginning of time. some folks like to be told what to think, wear, and eat, and never leave the town they were born.
@travroy 3 жыл бұрын
Modular is a fucking money pit
@Rhythmicons 3 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of modular hate in the comment section.
@rue909 9 ай бұрын
Blawan is now at the front of innovation in electronic music. His latest EPs have stronger modular basslines than those hateful comments could ever get.
@Rhythmicons 3 жыл бұрын
Buy a bigger house for your modular.
@xaqary 4 жыл бұрын
The music they've included for this video is not helping.
@jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171 4 жыл бұрын
It certainly does not look like any way to attract any females at all. Wheres all the women who do this? Should i be afraid to ask? I really hope not.
@ElectronicBeatsTV 4 жыл бұрын
There are some and also innovators like Suzanne Ciani. Just look around a bit deeper.
@Solenoidrecords 7 жыл бұрын
nerd
@MaikeruSumisu 8 жыл бұрын
So there are no female artists into modular?
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+Damien Hirsch there are many more in general, doesn't matter if male, female, whatever........
@MaikeruSumisu 8 жыл бұрын
regarding most line-ups of electronic influenced music we are far away from 'whatever'
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+Damien Hirsch why do you think?
@MaikeruSumisu 8 жыл бұрын
FYI: femalepressure.wordpress.com/facts-survey2015/
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
Damien Hirsch we know Female Pressure and did a feature very early on when Susanne started the whole thing in 2005. But we still don't know any female producers with a modular system in Berlin, maybe you can help us?
@ET3Roberts 8 жыл бұрын
Worst concert ever. Only takes 20 minutes between tracks, and that's if he can remember how to patch it in.
@ElectronicBeatsTV 8 жыл бұрын
+Beefcurtanz OPR which concert are you talking about?
@ET3Roberts 8 жыл бұрын
+Telekom Electronic Beats @11:45, perhaps "concert" was misleading since its just a bunch of people standing around watching this guy fiddle with patch cables and knobs. He basically demonstrated what a pain in the ass it is to get anything worth a shit out of those modules. Did you see anyone bobbing their head to a beat?! That British dude was obviously pissed he spent all his $ on that junk too.
@olecranonrebellion9976 7 жыл бұрын
as far as I'm concerned the more of you guys that don't get it the better.
@olecranonrebellion9976 7 жыл бұрын
workshop not concert.
@Rhythmicons 3 жыл бұрын
@@olecranonrebellion9976 There were a lot of people who hated the impressionist movement when it first emerged.
@wesleyleigh4063 4 жыл бұрын
Man modular is so inherently silly and pointless.Seriously i dare you write down everything that is said in its appraisal in this video and stand back and squint at it and tell me it isn't a sad justification. In a way its like the large hadron collider for synth enthusiasts. The best and most committed of us are stuck trying to find themselves by twisting knobs and plugging in cables. like the Higgs boson, it's created an illusion that it is more expansive then anything else available. without getting too existential, it isn't worth it, even if it were free (and it is in software version but alas some would argue that's devoid of charm or even more absurdly that it sounds different lol). I can see how it would be inspiring but can't you just inspire yourself? or maybe it invites certain possibilities? invite yourself. I imagine these guys haven't bothered to try out serum (software synth) or rather assumed it wasn't worthy an inquiry due to the factory presets and types of sounds typically made in it, but the thing is $200 and there's literally NOTHING you can do with modular that you can't do in serum and various other plugins (that often cost a fraction of the price of modules, even today). it's literally just eye candy and a chance to relive your days of being an infant and playing with blocks.
@Rhythmicons 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried it for yourself?
@PinchHarmonic69 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don’t get it. What does modular do, just make everything analog from start to finish? So you get the pure analog sound or some shiet
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