I don't blame him at all tho, first born daughter on one hand and wife and kids on the other, he would've been a great dad if it weren't about duties

"Try to be honorable and the other 99% of people who aren't will fuck you in your ass for it" seems like such a strong song of ice and fire theme.

I loved the peaceful nature of Viserys, he just tried to keep his family together and united. However, Daemond ended up being right in the end.

I am forever doomed to anger one person in the pleasing of another - Viserys S1.Ep3

It's just having too fucking many kids/family members and an uncertain succession line. It's the perfect medieval recipe for civil war

shined my friend

Shonded*

You're both wrong 😂 He's speaking in the past-tense. He is correct by saying shone. P.s. get a life 😅

@@venturecorp1441 if you're gonna be a grammar nazi at least get it right bruh

@@GreyCerberus thanks lol

I felt Aegon was the only miscast, but the older actor was really good too. I loved Lucerys' time jump the most, dude even has the Bobbinghair lol

@@vincentadultman6226 lol Jace, Luke, and their younger brother are the Jonas Brothers of Westeros

@@youngrootv yeah, RIP Luc and Arrax, you will be missed Can't wait for Daemon to poke out Aemond's other eye

Oh my god THE costume design for this show is so good, they should of had these guys working on RofP, maybe then it wouldn't have been so lackluster, what a waste of a billion dollars smh.

@@conwaytwittyer2667 RoP is passable, not a complete dumpster fire as many claim. But for a billion dollars sunk into it, the outcome is BAD. They need to focus on setup and dialog, especially the dialogues, and stop making the sets so generic. Finally, they need to include more lore. Rn they're putting in tidbits while introducing contradictory garbage. First season, so fine. If the next season is this bad, it's all downhill from there

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God fucking damn, 9 comments and they're all spam.

Lord have mercy these spam comments are fucking insane

i mean this moist meter is kinda all over the place, it is as if he barely paid attention or remember anything about the show. like since when viserys was bad guy, he was a ppl pleasure from the beginning, Aegon situation is not confusing either. and not slow burn at all, quite fast paced except first few episodes, and kinda rushed needed couple more episodes for ep9, also the show handled the time jumps really well too etc.

@@TheArmidillionAire I can't even keep up with reporting them lol

wtf lol

He wrong tho

Pathetic fools!😂 California will be no more after this decade!!!😂👌

Kinda distracting imo. Save if for the podcast Jackson

@@A.F.1 I challenge you to eat my ass without laughing

TRUEEE The ending genuinely shocked me as well. like I thought he was going to make it ;-;. and the distraught on Aemonds face

That's my favourite shot across both series. Terrifying, but also cook as hell.

From this point on I knew something insane would happen, for the rest of the episode I was so fixed on the screen and in some state of shock, which rarely ever happens when I watch something. So good job to the whole team, can't wait for season two

Nope, the scariest scene was a little later when he WASNT there lmao

He was so damn big and bad ass, Arrax never stood a chance

In the books maybe, but in the show he's pretty straight up evil. He murdered at least 2 innocent people that I can remember

Yeah I like him and ill start trusting his character then he will go do something that reminds me that he isnt a good guy. Like last episode when he grabs rheanerys by the throat, quickly reminds me that he is still a villain somewhat

@@Jacob-hl1xr which innocent people?

@@hotmailbutts416 like killing the servant so rhaenyera's then husband could escape

@@hotmailbutts416 his wife rheya royce and a random Server boy in driftmark that they burned Posing as laenor velaryon

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Jesus 6 bots on one comment it’s getting out of hand

I started watching when episode 3 came out and couldn’t believe how good it was now I’m hooked on it like I was got

@@harambeepstein8009 glad to see another flesh bag here

Why, though? The 2 people responsible for season 8 aren't working on this show. It's on HBO. The source material is finished. GRRM will be a producer for the entire series. And this is still one of, if not the best fantasy worlds ever created. It just doesn't make sense to me why people were so worried, or just flat out not going to watch, when they found out that Dumb and Dumber weren't going to be anywhere near this show. I knew everything would be good as soon as they announced the showrunners.

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@@-whyquestion i see you rn

This is so hilarious 5 out of the 6 replies under your comment are bots

Charlie gave it a 8/10. This has to be a human helping the bots, didn't even skip to the rating.

You should also bare in mind that this is the Medieval era, where a small cut on your arm can end with you dead. Monarchs, and nobles, would try to have as many children as possible, in case their firstborn didn't make it.

same, my mind was running through many different scenarios on how it would happen but what surprised me was still when it happened

How would Rhaenara know Aemond killed him though? Werent they flying over the sea in a storm? He could have got struck by lightning, i mean no one else saw.

@@frostythesnowman9903 i think that if any of Arrax's chomped up and dismembered remains were found, even just some... it would be immediately evident that it was killed by another dragon, and that Lucerys had died as well, whether they found anything left of him or not. What else could bring down such a beast in such a way but another, larger dragon? From there its only a bit of detective work determining who the most likely killer was It would already be evident that it was one of the Greens' dragons as the only other enemy with dragons at their disposal, and after that it would be as simple as learning Aemond was at Storms End and that he left with Vhagar the same time Lucerys did When we see Rhaenrya at the very end of the season, she may not know all of this yet, we arent given a definitive answer on that, but I think she can piece together ENOUGH to know that her enemies at Kings Landing are most likely responsible for her sons death I cant remember/dont know if they touch on this more in the books, but i think show viewers are given enough information and hints to piece together how they learned everything

100%. My jaw physically dropped when Vhagar killed Lucerys. The cinematography of that scene was wow. When Lucerys breaks above the storm into the open sky and everything goes quiet we knew what was going to happen. They both lost control of their dragons and it really showed what Viserys was talking to Rhaenyra about in episode one, how their control of dragons was an illusion. Something that was not explored at all in GoT. 10/10 finally

Same here

How many chapters are there in the book

Yeah how many

Yeah i’ve started the book recently. It’s written as an account of history. You don’t get to learn that much about a character’s personality or get to connect with them the same way you can here. The slow buildup gives you that chance, and will probably make the coming conflict even more meaningful.

@@LK25278 HotD adapted 80 pages. Got Season 1 adapted 694 pages.

@@liamjm9278 It is mainly a history book so it makes sense they're not using as much, they need to show more personality etc

What an awesome call!! Matt Smith is a really entertaining actor!!

And they had some great scenes together

NO WONDER PADDY AND MATT FELT LIKE THEY HAD SOME GENUINE CHEMISTRY!!

And they both acted the fuck out of it. Best two performances. That scene in the throne room !

Paddy Consodine is probably my favorite actor ever. If you’re trying to cry, watch ‘In America’, if you want a fantastic slow-burn horror watch The Outsider.

I personally think that viserys being so wealthy actually caused Rhynaera to become so stuck up and entitled, drove Alicent to more desperate measures, ruined the friendship the two had, caused several wars with the triarchy only 1 of which are covered so far, and his stubborn refusal to even hear out the accusations against his daughter are a huge reason why things went from ok, to bad, to worse. I guess the morals of the story are: 1. Don't try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no-one. 2. Sometimes the truth will hurt, a lot. Despite this , refusal to heed it will hurt even more and cause further problems down the road (refusing to accept that his daughter is a bit of a hoe) 3. Sometimes rules and traditions are there for a reason, and refusal to take heed of them will result in your friends slowly turning against you. 4. Indecisiveness will come back to bite you. As you keep putting off problems for "next time" the problems only grow and fester.

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OMG SO MANY BOTS

it is essential because the season would draggggggg if they didn't

I agree. The only thing that got confusing was keeping track of everyone's name and where exactly they fit into the family. That's not far off from what happened with me reading the books anyways because I did the same damn thing lol.

i can understand why some viewers were put off by the inconsistency in aging with some characters, but the folks like charlie who struggled to understand where the story was going after the episode 6 time jump make me scratch my head a bit. like, the conflict is the same, the character motivations are the same, with the exception of daemon and laena almost every character was still living in the same place, etc. i just dont see what there is to misunderstand lol. if you can't pick up on what's going on with rhaenyra, laenor and strong within the first 5 minutes of episode 6 then you're just bad at seeing context clues lmao

And what I like is they trust the audience enough to figure it out themselves. It just shows how well the show was written

Exactly, they're not trying to hold our hands like we're fucking babies or something. That's one of my main problems with RoP

I would agree based off of the pure events. However, the show clearly depicts the blacks as the heroes and the greens as the villains. In the books it is just two power hungry sides.

I learned that Charlie needs his hand held to understand a show

@@Ian-zf5ss audiences need someone to root for tbh.

I agree, I think people forget, this was good but not quite to that standard yet more like season 5-7 but I think next season has huge potential to be some of the best GoT we’ve seen

@@edenjaycollins6055 HotD was way better than s5-7 of GoT, but true, not as good as s1-4

@@edenjaycollins6055 I think season 1 of HotD is better than season 1 of GoT.

@@precisism1804Season 1 of Game of Thrones established House Stark, Baratheon, Lannister, Arryn, Tully, Frey, Targaryens. Jaime and Cersei’s incest, Roberts bastards, Neds execution, Brans crippling, Jon’s Wall arc, Daenerys’s dothraki arc, the concept of a council, a Hand of the king (Vizzy T’s death rip king) AND at the time no one knew these characters nor were we familiar with the world of Westeros. I love HotD and Fire and Blood is definitely an amazing book but GoT season 1 did A LOT with a lot smaller budget.

@@Grey_OSN it’s just an opinion of mine that is based entirely off of how good I subjectively felt they were

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Fax. He was the best character in the show. I actually felt something when seeing him almost dead

He didn’t start any shit directly but naming his daughter his heir only to have two sons with the daughter of an extremely ambitious and power hungry lord was bound to cause conflict. He was weak.

I think he tried to lead by example as being a good man. Which has some merit. But he wasn't quite punishing enough. I mean he did remove otto as hand when he realized he was conniving against Rhaenerys, and the guy he replaced him with seemed like a good dude too. The issue was that Otto had already trained Allicent too well, and unfortunately he really did love allicent.

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Every time Aerys mentioned “There’s a Great War coming from beyond the Wall - we must stand against it” and I just sort of groan in pain - cos it was meant to be John that was “The Prince that was promised” but ARYA was apparently “who we knew all along” that was gonna kill the Night King 🤦🏽‍♂️

Writers were done

@@firstlast9846 The Night King's death was completely anticlimactic. They built him up to be a dangerous foe and then he just dies without doing fuck all. And of course Arya can jump 10 ft in the air over all the nightwalker generals.

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man WTF is happening here lol

@@mutalemulenga6635 the bots are multiplying 😭

are the books better than the show? been wondering whether to watch GOT or read the related books

@@sqrapz books for sure imo

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timestamp?

Holy shit bruh Google should really do something about the bots.

@@hiteshadari4790 the bots are multiplying 😭

Preach 🙏

He sure as fuck earned it.

I am forever doomed to read hotd as how to train your dragon gg

But he is competing against Bob Odenkirk for BCS. Tough opponent.

what in the promotion

Jesus Howard Christ on a bike, it's been thirty seconds a d two likes and there's already 4 spam bits here. Get a real job ya freeloaders!

the costumes are overall consistently better than game of thrones. GoT had some beautiful costumes but some real stinkers too (anyone remember margaery's bowl dress? lol), whereas the dresses in this show have more of an internal consistency

Aemond had magnificent drip

Season 1 was just the first chapter

Olivia Cooke absolutely killed as well. I loved all of the cast but those three stood out to me

Imo Paddy and Matt… these 2 absolutely did amazing. They appeared more than any other actors on the show and kinda were glue that made all of this story stick together.

I thought I would miss Milly when they did the time jump but I actually love Emma more, probably more to do with the course of the story from that point on- both were great

Daddy Considine 😫😫😫

Emma D’Arcy is the single reason i cant watch it, she just can't play that character.

Apparently according to book readers season 2 will have our loyalties bouncing between teams and justifying a lot of actions

nah as of right now i hate the greens. their side has that creep larys, otto, the horrible kids, criston, probably more i cant think to name. the black side looks a lot better imo

Interesting! I personally never rooted for team Alicent. Alicent in herself isn’t evil, but her whole family and team around her is just sickening, and she allows them to. She basically took her socks off for that sick man as a reward 🤢. Team Rhaenyra isn’t perfect either, especially from the outside looking in, but from our view, they are way better. Glad you switched sides 😂, but as you said, goes to show how balanced the show is!

Im the opposite. I liked Rhaenyra when she was young but as she grew older I grew to hate her

@@chuck948 same

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Sarah Hess is forcing feminism changing alot from the books fuckin up daemons charachter deleting his scenes (she deleted all scenes daemon was showing love to his daughters),she is forcing us to like the female protagonists, He has the least screen time. Remove sarah hess the feminist immediatly from season 2 before she ruins daemons charachter and the entire show for everyone. she insulted grr martin saying that he made alicent evil( she is a crazy villain in the books ) so we will change that in season 2 bec. women are angels and men are creating false image in books. (she hates daemon and she is upset that fans love him she said that in an interview)

The fact that they improved on the book characters, too... Especially Aemond and Viserys. Didn't think that was possible. Great, great acting and writing all around. I'd also give it a 10/10 without a doubt.

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Yup same here. God these bots

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Jesus these bots. They are multiplying

Unfortunately, we’ll be waiting until mid 2024 for season 2.

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Yeah he’s been getting some great roles. His best role in my opinion was the doctor.

wym he was in morbius

@@xxcoolxx2313 Morbius >>>> Your favorite series

Same! Do you know when it comes out?

@@luker1ng 8 months

@@luker1ng 2024 apparently

@@luker1ng 251 days 12 hours 43 minutes and 22 seconds and counting

A year and a half

Matt Smith was also fantastic as the Doctor in doctor who. You should give it a watch if you like the actor

the retards in his livestream chat love spoiling however, so just close out his chat

Im adficted to Shwift X, Whycreate and indeepgeek. I probs know more about Westerosi history than I do about irl history

Bro whycreate, AltShiftX and David lightbringer are lore goats

Yeah that dudes awesome I’m addicted to his fantasy breakdown

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They can always make it 5 seasons and stop at Aegon3s coronation

What underlying themes did you identify?

I think they handled time jumps in a decent way. And as far as I know future events will be chronologically closer to each other so this was some sort of a prologue.

I mean there’s not necessarily much of difference when dealing with medieval politics.

@@johannesziaether3916 yes the rest of the 3 seasons take place in 2 years in universe time

I also really enjoy how Goerge leaves the door open for different interpretations of his stories by insisting that they are not his stories but the historical accounts from the perspectives of the maesters. Like how joffrey "spoils" the end in the original game of thrones. I'm wondering if the big twist will be that they fake their deaths to hide in safety like they did with Leanor.

Wouldn’t go that far. It was a good episode though.

@@hotmailbutts416 yeah honestly episode 9 and 8 were better. Finale was still very solid though.

Na episode 8 was a master piece, my favorite in bot got and hotd

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i mean they could either start the series with them being 30 and the green war kicking off and were left wandering how it got to this point or we have time jumps and we see the build up to the war. time jumps were perfectly reasonable and executed well imo

@@dylanburns8759 Fax, also leaving out decades of history that was included in the original story

Exactly! This entire season was about getting the audience invested in the conflict.

hes proly the second best targeryan king from what i recall

Where is any of that? I cant find his take in the video at all

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I dislike the way you all keep commenting about how you all like the way Jackson x -

Bravo Vince

👏 Bravo.

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I thought episode 9 just because of the ending was eh but the finale was great

@@daquaviousbingleton9763 viserys was dead in the start of episode 9, they probably ment episode 8

That was episode 8

yea i think ep 8 was the best one too

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What is this comments section

Cringe af

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@@-whyquestion there is a black van surveilling your house

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or more to do with Gorgie RR Martini admitted to having a pregnant chick fetish lol

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@Patrick39 Better at penetration

@@dontreadmyprofilepicture5596 beep bop 🤖

@@A.F.1 I won’t

Sadly, they do not even start filming until 2023.. So youll be waiting at least until this time next year or 2024.

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I just ate 3 pounds of applesauce in a vid 💪🔥

Genuine question, is this meant to be funny or does it just kind of sit in the same camp as comments that just quote the video?

This meme needs to die already

BCS is my favorite show of all time

@@samplingrater8411 what's BCS? I'm sorry, I'm from Argentina xd

@@Martha_My_Dear Better Call Saul, it's a prequel to Breaking Bad.

@@Martha_My_Dear Better Call Saul, the Breaking Bad prequel

Primal is good too

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It's really cool how a George uses real life elements of the royal family and it makes everything evidently stupid and ridiculous

the passage of time is also pretty realistic when you look at how long some wars lasted. asoiaf is vaguely inspired by the events of the war of roses, which lasted 3 decades. and it's not just the infighting amongst the targaryens, they did a pretty good job a subtly alluding to how long the brackens and blackwoods have been feuding with one another. all these royal houses tend to hold grudges lol

Totally agreed. There isn't villains and heroes. You can ever argue that the biggest villain is the patriarchy. It's really spot on with the themes of the book.

@@almightyproductions9657 considering how a big aspect of what pushes the events of HOTD is the fact that Rhaenyra is not a first born son, fantasy or no, involves the patriarchy.

I do wish they showed less detail when it came to failed pregnancies though, that was hard to watch at times. Especially the first one.

@@almightyproductions9657 You could argue that Rhaenerya's cause is not a feminist conflict because she does not intend to make things better for other women and is just about her, a valyrian Targaryen, not wanting to play by andal succession law because she thinks they are an special case like they do with the incestual marriages, whereas Alicent is in her mindset and predicament because of the patriarchal society and faith she practices not because some intrinsect hate for Rhaenerya but the fact that you continously reffer to the real life sex based, tangible, oppresion of women as an alleged phenomena and want to make out a woman responding to a comment you made about women as somehow treating the OP as a weak damsel makes it clear that you do not want to have a real meaningful talk about patriarchy related to this show(or any, because you do not need or want to talk about it), you just want to discredit any conversation relating to how those things impact anything because you find womens lived reality annoying to hear, go watch Formula 1 if you don't want social nuance in your shows

@@almightyproductions9657 Most people don't use the textbook definition of most things and it is intelligently dissingenous at best to pretend the constantly documented lived experiences of women are alleged because random individuals define patriarchy (applied as an structure and system that upholds male dominance via the oppresion of women in every living sphere) with different wordings. I admitted that mysogyny and female empowerment doesn't fit into the neat tidy box a lot of watchers want it to go into (Rhaenerya being a girlboss female liberator) but I also alluded to the ways in which there is still very much a patriarchy in action in the world of Westeros with my comment about Alicent, even if it is not a 1:1 replica of real world society, same way there is a feudal system in place even if medieval civil wars weren't fought with dragons. To answer your question: Yes, because the only way you are going to get no input about the paralels between real world oppression and examples of the same in fiction is by excluding all people who experience any kind of oppresion from those discussions. Also let's not pretend this is some niche DnD campaign being played in a basement, this is a multimillion dollar show being built upon one of the biggest cultural pop culture successes of the 21st century who are you gatekeeping this from. I used formula 1 because it as further away you can get from needing to analyze any kind of social nuance and inner character motivations in a show since you seem to hate it, I have nothing against it and I'm sure afficionados could tell you why it is an interesting sport, not sure where you perceived shame.

It's hilarious how Californians choose to be blissfully ignorant of their impending doom 🤣

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After the time skip I thought all the aged up characters were great but bruh how tf does Criston look 20 years old when he’s supposed to be like in his mid 40s at this point lol

Yeah he's kinda like the mountain in this one...

@@BlackCrowOfDeath To be fair, there are people who are very old but look youthful.

my farts are better than Charlie's farts

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It's hilarious how Californians choose to be blissfully ignorant of their impending doom 🤣

I feel the same. The time jumps were a little confusing, but I don't think they could have done it any other way. If they started with big Alicent and Rhaenyra, then they would have had to do a ton of flashbacks to get the same message across. Looking back on it, I prefer this way and it makes more sense instead of flashbacking constantly. Keeps the story chronological, even if you have to mentally do some character gymnastics

Wait years now

felt.

Except hes completely wrong. HoTd is shattering viewership records because of the success of GoT. And GoT still has a 9 on IMDB, the hate for s8 is all bandwagon herd mentality let's just be honest. Vocal minority like to complain about it on the internet.

@@13_faces nah man season 8 was absolute trash but the series overall is still amazing

@@13_faces vocal minority? are you insane? it's by far the majority opinion that 1: season 8 was rushed and at best a disappointing end to many characters storylines, and that 2: GoT had been dropping in quality since about season 5. That's not even just keyboard warrior opinions, those are the general opinions you'll find IRL too, or at least the opinions I've seen from friends/family/acquaintances

@@SythonToTheZ it is a vocal minority. Everyone I know thought season 8 was fine. And these are book readers and people who actually followed the show from its start and not people who jumped on when it got popular like you. IMDB user score is still over a 9. The only people who whine and cry incessantly about later seasons are bandwagoners who enjoy having a hate boner because the internet told them to, and that's just the facts.