The Mystery of Hegel

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Bent Outta Shape Chess

Bent Outta Shape Chess

Күн бұрын

Robert M. Wallace reads his paper and discusses Hegel.

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@abohnad
@abohnad 2 жыл бұрын
I think im in love with your channel. please more but good quality discussions like this one.
@thenowchurch6419
@thenowchurch6419 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion gentlemen. Excellent intro to Hegel.
@jimrobertson1812
@jimrobertson1812 10 жыл бұрын
Questioning, discussion, shared efforts ... interesting!
@divinuminfernum
@divinuminfernum 7 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere in a biography on Hegel that he wasnt so much influenced by Kant but moreso by people like Rousseau and Spinoza and Aristotle, and his work is something of a break with Kant
@StephenSchleis
@StephenSchleis 3 жыл бұрын
True.
@adaptercrash
@adaptercrash Жыл бұрын
That fucked up continental subdivision that use to live in UK or something and migrated to ancient Roman demographic demolition
@jmgresham93
@jmgresham93 8 ай бұрын
I have the Complete Works of Aristotle. :P
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 6 ай бұрын
Both Kant and Greeks were influenced by Hindu philosophy
@theseventh7865
@theseventh7865 5 ай бұрын
Lovely convivial feeling to this, thank you!
@b.alexanderjohnstone9774
@b.alexanderjohnstone9774 21 күн бұрын
It's comforting to know that all my ancestors (English) didn't really get it either & found this stuff impenetrable/impractical nonsense. To be more serious I do respect and am determined to understand Hegel.
@starlightengramA
@starlightengramA 7 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to think in a world where and when people know so much and yet know so little.
@willdaly9800
@willdaly9800 8 жыл бұрын
mind blowing comment at the end.. "hipsters" and even anti-hipsters are still embodiments of the spirit of modern authenticity and individuality... nobody's moved beyond that yet
@frederickfreedcomposer4833
@frederickfreedcomposer4833 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@JediMindG
@JediMindG 8 жыл бұрын
I looked up play-doh In a philosophy dictionary. it punched me in the face
@-Gorbi-
@-Gorbi- 8 жыл бұрын
Life increasingly envelopes and transcends its previous stages as it becomes more self-reflexive. What the fuck is so controversial or obscure about that?
@mpcc2022
@mpcc2022 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people find Hegel difficult to comprehend.
@FringeWizard2
@FringeWizard2 6 жыл бұрын
This. Only people who don't get Hegel are people who don't get and haven't studied the whole of philosophy I guess.
@skeetorkiftwon
@skeetorkiftwon 6 жыл бұрын
Fringe Wizard I honestly see no more concise or complete philosophy than the necessary and sufficient contrast between Kant's categorical imperative and Locke's second treatise on government. The ideological minimum for society, and the punctuated reality of survival of self and imposition of will.
@skeetorkiftwon
@skeetorkiftwon 6 жыл бұрын
Fringe Wizard Look I'm just going to be honest, I really don't even want to answer your questions until you edit that wall of fucking word salad. The very least you could manage is some line breaks after your double negatives and wholly unnecessary acronyms. How am I supposed to address a question as complex as, "Should our "leaders" have access to, and understanding of, the zeniths of human perception?" when you cannot even bring order to a single sentence?
@bihone4750
@bihone4750 2 жыл бұрын
I just know you've never read the phenomenology when you say such stupid shit with such confidence.
@dkeristo852
@dkeristo852 9 жыл бұрын
I love this mans voice!
@yonisgure7348
@yonisgure7348 8 жыл бұрын
+Dkeristo he sounds like a younger Mr Carson from Downton Abbey lol
@RadicalShiba1917
@RadicalShiba1917 7 жыл бұрын
What would you or anyone else here recommend for a beginners guide so to speak to philosophy? All I've read so far is Descartes' Meditations and the Republic
@mpcc2022
@mpcc2022 7 жыл бұрын
David O'Hara The Trial and Death of Socrates, Beyond Good and Evil, Utilitarianism, Ethics-Spinoza, Existentialism is a Humanism, A Critique of Pure Reason, Tractatus, The Emptiness Of Existence that's a diversified list that will give you a taste of varying modern philosophical schools.
@skeetorkiftwon
@skeetorkiftwon 6 жыл бұрын
David O'Hara I'm going to contrast the previous response, though I don't disagree that they are reasonable touchstones. I advise you to read: The book of five rings The Hagekura Marcus Aurelius meditations Books of Koans Gustave Le Bon's The Crowd Edward Bernays' Propaganda John Locke's Second Treatise on Government The federalist and anti federalist papers.
@spaceytracey1237
@spaceytracey1237 3 жыл бұрын
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@spaceytracey1237
@spaceytracey1237 3 жыл бұрын
@@skeetorkiftwon great choices
@fac5457
@fac5457 3 жыл бұрын
Read presocratic philosophy by Katherine Osborne
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 9 жыл бұрын
The central theme of Hegel's Philosophy is DIALECTICS as the study of the relationship between opposites, not properly investigated, and with no models, is able to give insight into "evolution" and "self-organizing properties of matter", leading to an understanding of the "BEING".
@reidhb1
@reidhb1 9 жыл бұрын
the Dialectics are not a real part of hegels "systeme"
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 8 жыл бұрын
+Reidh Beallagh What is, please explain.
@telicalbooks6485
@telicalbooks6485 8 жыл бұрын
+Naimul Haq Which is why I am a moderate politically.
@reidhb1
@reidhb1 8 жыл бұрын
In The Phenomenology of the Geist, Dialectics is not the Theme, awareness of One's Self is.
@FringeWizard2
@FringeWizard2 6 жыл бұрын
Telical Books when you say you are a moderate politically by what standard are you measuring yourself? A "moderate" is a very different thing in different times and places unless you've found and made use of some objective measure of "moderation" in politics in which case your objectively moderate position may happen to be very much at odds with others politics. Are you a "moderate before god/the absolute" or a moderate just by the standards of the nation you live in right now?
@nashasooryaya1956
@nashasooryaya1956 5 жыл бұрын
In Vedic terms, the REAL is that which has neither beginning, nor ending, and thus is Eternal, Non Local, Immutable, and is Not-A-Thing, and Attributeless. Veda calls that NiIRGUNA BRAHMAN (i.e. the Supreme Impersonal Being-Consciousness). This self same NIRGUNA BRAHMAN, gives rise to, and is also known by the Mystics as SAGUNA BRAHMAN (i.e. Brahman WITH Attributes), which in turn gives rise to Supreme Personal Almighty Gods (Krishsna, Narayana, Ishwara ....etc). Ishwara is said by the deep mystics to manifest from Himself (or Herself) the Supreme Deities: Shiva (The destroyer of attachment), Vishnu (the Grantor of the objects of attachment), Surya (Power and Brilliance), Ganesha (Supreme Intelligence), Devi (The Supreme Mother Divine) , aka Parvati , JagadAmbe', Shivani, Maheshwari, MahishAsura Mardini, ....etc. Now Creation, from the point of view of Veda and the great Deep Mystics of India is ILLUSION when compared with BRAHMAN - because creation is THINGS - Time-Space, Galaxies, Planets, Stars, .....etc ....etc. All "Things" of Creation have a beginning and an ending. Between their beginning and ending, they undergo innumerable changes. Thus they are called UNREAL when compared with BRAHMAN; or sometimes referred as "The Relative", and Brahman referred to as "The Absolute". I hope this little scribble whets you appetite to learn and know more about Veda. The best way is to start reading the books or treatises called Vedanta.
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 9 жыл бұрын
Consciousness, awareness, intelligence, intuition, free will, etc., are all the result of the self-organizing property of matter.
@newingvaeona8907
@newingvaeona8907 9 жыл бұрын
No.
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 8 жыл бұрын
***** Self organizing systems involves all forces acting in unison, better known as Leibniz's ;relational world', in which taken in isolation, space, time mass, force etc., means nothing, but taken together they convey a coherent theory. The 'universal spirit' representing 'universal consciousness', fine tuned creation and evolution of self organizing systems. At the big bang, dark matter and dark energy were created with opposite properties, followed by creation of particles and anti-particles, followed by creation of matter and anti-matter etc. Unity of Hegel's opposites, created elements, molecules, compounds, organic compounds, amino acids , genomes, cells, life and intelligence
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 8 жыл бұрын
+NOTXOA Godel's incomplete theorem stems from incorporating the falsity of the true statement 'I am not a liar', much like 'God created Devil', deprives God the benefit of omnipotence, a source of confusion that seems insurmountable. Hegel's laws of dialectics, especially his theory of , 'unity of opposites', attempts to solve this dilemma by introducing the concept of the , 'universal spirit' of 'unity of opposites' that is ubiquitous,like the opposite properties of dark matter and dark energy, particles and anti-particles, matter and anti-matter.... and on to hot and cold, male and female, up and down etc. Hegel had no idea of anti-gravity or anti-particle or negative energy, yet his theory laid the foundation of modern science (Dirac's prediction, or even Godel's incompleteness theorem), and provided the proof, however unintentionally, the existence and ubiquitous nature of the 'universal spirit', the source of all human knowledge.
@newingvaeona8907
@newingvaeona8907 8 жыл бұрын
Naimul Haq very good
@naimulhaq9626
@naimulhaq9626 8 жыл бұрын
JarlAthaulf Thank you very much, for your appreciation.
@adocentyn9028
@adocentyn9028 6 жыл бұрын
Good
@1kevpap
@1kevpap 10 жыл бұрын
hegel schmagel,coffee and bagels.
@midshipman8654
@midshipman8654 4 жыл бұрын
kevin butler Hegels does Kegels with Engels
@fretilius
@fretilius 8 жыл бұрын
*wew*
@jmgresham93
@jmgresham93 8 ай бұрын
Is Hegel-by-hypertext good?
@honoriussoularians1887
@honoriussoularians1887 9 жыл бұрын
Dude, your karma just ran over my dogma..
@ristrellaconti1005
@ristrellaconti1005 8 жыл бұрын
Holderlin went mad from listening to Hegel.
@Zar4thustr4
@Zar4thustr4 9 жыл бұрын
Next, before all else, you’ll fix Your mind on Metaphysics! See that you’re profoundly trained In what never stirs in a human brain: You’ll learn a splendid word For what’s occurred or not occurred. But for the present take six months To get yourself in order: start at once. Five hours every day, lock Yourself in, with a ticking clock! Make sure you’re well prepared, Study each paragraph with care, So afterwards you’ll be certain Only what’s in the book, was written: Then be as diligent when you pen it, As if the Holy Ghost had said it!
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 6 ай бұрын
This talk was about Plato, not Hegel
@JackVox
@JackVox 7 жыл бұрын
11:35 Curiously when studying 19thC German idealists such as Friedrich Hölderlin and Nietzsche they fall into some form of madness in later life. When pondering on existential reality it does cause a peculiar cognitive dissonance, especially if all you can be sure of is that it is only 'thought' itself that your can be sure of.
@starlightengramA
@starlightengramA 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps that happens because it may be true that reality as it appears to an individual consciousness is actually a simultaneous ingession to a divine mind.
@starlightengramA
@starlightengramA 7 жыл бұрын
That is, an indistinguishable consciousness working through a Bose Einstein Condensation in the root of thoughts.
@starlightengramA
@starlightengramA 7 жыл бұрын
Where we make the jump from the intuition to the concrete impression.
@weirdthing4119
@weirdthing4119 5 жыл бұрын
my name is the same
@PCasanova95
@PCasanova95 3 жыл бұрын
The Father could be the thesis; Jesus, the antithesis; and the Holy Spirit the synthesis, according to Hegelian dialectic.
@boris3866
@boris3866 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Hegel never used those terms
@ristrellaconti1005
@ristrellaconti1005 8 жыл бұрын
"Inner freedom" here sounds like just being to believe whatever we want to, regardless of external or objective reality or evidence. How do we know that we have a soul? how do we know that such a thing exists? Only because we want to believe that we have one: that is enough for both Hegel and Plato. But that can be just self delusion without evidence or objective rationale.
@kadmonzohar2
@kadmonzohar2 8 жыл бұрын
+Ristrella Conti ...could be you don't have a soul but you are a soul, as in the point of the inner universal essence of a thing with its force in a movement from moment to moment, becoming, and the soul is the play of what that essence is becoming into actuality. The expression of the truth of a thing. When a person has much delusion or corrupt data in the sense certainty, perception, understanding into consciousness process, then that misguides the ego and the master/slave doesn't synch. There are problems that come about by not seeing reality clearly, and Hindu, Buddhists and other schools of thought will tell us that everything is illusion, and we can see this is true because we all need to break things down in distinctions and put them together again to grasp reality, but to understand how appearance is a reflection, knowing clears things up to not fall for the illusion. The mirror may not be perfect but the reflection becomes clearer to the degree of understanding. The laws of the absolute may be considered heaven and the further an understanding strays from that and the problems that creates could be considered hell. I like the Kabbalistic ideas of Sitra Achra to explain this and how the universe does bring self correction or death. A persons problems may wake them up. Unfortunately some people remained fooled just enough that problems don't prove to bring out the truth of the delusions. In Kabbalah they say 'the World to Come' or 'World Without End' but this is the Absolute Universal that isn't time and space. Heaven isn't in the future but always in the present moment. So you just are a soul within the now, not have a soul that will go anywhere from you in your absoluteness of self.
@kadmonzohar2
@kadmonzohar2 8 жыл бұрын
+kadmonzohar2 ...sorry...I forgot to add...these are just my own thoughts and I do not know anything, or what I do know may evolve to something different. Like J Krishnamurti says...don't take my word for it but just see it for yourself. Whataya think?
@-Gorbi-
@-Gorbi- 8 жыл бұрын
+Ristrella Conti You're constructing a huge strawman. Objective rationality is what the entire philosophy of Hegel rests on. Logic to Hegel is already implicit in the world and structures our mind, not the other way around.
@ANPHKI
@ANPHKI 8 жыл бұрын
*facepalm*
@willalston9627
@willalston9627 8 жыл бұрын
Have you no sense of the Mystery, man?
@dreamstwice
@dreamstwice 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Hume... toss Hegel into the flames.
@truebomba
@truebomba 4 жыл бұрын
How dogmatic ;)
@wailinburnin
@wailinburnin 9 жыл бұрын
If Marx embraces a dialectic (Hegel), perhaps we should look at its opposite. Rather than class struggle driving things, what if that is 180 degrees out? Consider "social cohesion" as the driver of history - the aberration of revolution, of turmoil - not simple social inertia. but the willingness to put up with incredible, prolonged injustice in the supposed cause of social cohesion.
@carolihrig718
@carolihrig718 9 жыл бұрын
This Hegel Dialectic Pattern has and is again destroying my life. It is a german also. I consider him evil, for I have 28 year story/case to tell someone, just much evidence/documents all connected closely to this human predator name B.I. ..The details are in the devil's paperwork! He has claimed on this internet, "not to leave a papertrail. This is a Full Blown Serial Sociopath/Psychopath! He projects and full of many clusters...His size saves him, 6 foot 7 inch white man. German Hillbilly of Evil. This is his Pattern, NO DOUBT! HE IS THE DRAMA KING THAT PLANTS HIS HEGAL EFFECT ON MANY..PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE IN BETWEEN OCCURRENCES CORRUPTIONS. I KNOW MY CASE WELL,
@jdstubbs9535
@jdstubbs9535 9 жыл бұрын
Lounita Ihrig why is it destroying your life, I'm curious.
@jdstubbs9535
@jdstubbs9535 9 жыл бұрын
Were on 2 different wavelengths dude
@zerotwo7319
@zerotwo7319 2 жыл бұрын
Anything can be the driver of history, because you gave it focus
@reesemoneyvevo5668
@reesemoneyvevo5668 8 жыл бұрын
You really don't understand how a psychopath works at all. They're petty little people who're so scared of others they have no choice but to lash out violently. You've been duped by their pomp, thinking they're some sort of geniuses; but believe me, tricking strangers through generalizations and appeals to emotion is neither an admirable nor a difficult thing to do, nor a way to live a healthy life.
@tcaw8813
@tcaw8813 2 жыл бұрын
Nah
@richardwestwood8212
@richardwestwood8212 Жыл бұрын
Duh 🙄
@jamesnorseman4863
@jamesnorseman4863 3 жыл бұрын
Hegel: God and science ... Different experiences... The first one is metaphysics and the second one is evidence...simple as that ...basic instincts.
@ristrellaconti1005
@ristrellaconti1005 8 жыл бұрын
"So much obscurity that it must be profound.." Reminds me of the way people sit at the feet of Derrida and Slavoj Zizek today.
@-Gorbi-
@-Gorbi- 8 жыл бұрын
+Ristrella Conti Haha, yea. I can see Derrida but idk, Zizek isn't exactly a rubix cube.
@hachmejo
@hachmejo 7 жыл бұрын
just because you havent used the energy or time to understand it doesnt give you an excuse to denigrate it. your condescension is an indication of arrogant ignorance
@FringeWizard2
@FringeWizard2 6 жыл бұрын
"Not an argument"
@andrewmueller9986
@andrewmueller9986 Жыл бұрын
I can't decide of Hegel was stupid or smart.
@petertancred3507
@petertancred3507 6 жыл бұрын
Ohhh pharck I hope we don't discover how to travel commercially at the speed of light I ouldn't be fucked losing my luggage beforehand.....
@JSwift-jq3wn
@JSwift-jq3wn 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless how difficult, how overwhelming, how extraordinary Hegel's Philosophie May appear to none philosophers, his harangue is obvious to true thinkers, e.g. Schopenhauer. There are stupid questions: why is there something instead of nothing? Stupid and irrelevant question. It is the same as the question: why is Paris heavier than London? Or, why is Berlin faster than my grandmother.
@coliv2
@coliv2 7 жыл бұрын
Perceive that philosophers like Hegel move from the reality of thinking to the reality of soul and the divine (in 17:40). That is, it is just a form of religion!
@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676
@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 4 жыл бұрын
Religion: A set of traditions, ceremonies and mythologies which posits a postemoeus promise that some essence of self Be it a siuld or a spirit will survive the death of the physical bieng. This is not religion.
@DENEVENTER
@DENEVENTER 6 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, the actualization of the Platonic forms by Kepler to deduce the planetary 'ellipse zones' as such leads onto Newton's inverse squared law which is crux to Science, and the modern scientific philosophy from a scientific standpoint is that something that amazingly phenomenal is mere petty coincidence, and does not resound with any awe as it did with Plato, or Kepler, nor Newton, it's just some drivel the universe spewed out...somebody has definitely lost the plot in this equation.
@FuckALLauthorities
@FuckALLauthorities 2 жыл бұрын
Earth is Relatively FLAT and WATER IS FLAT AS FUCK, see Malcolm Bowden in my related playlist, or not 🖕😘
@Xstine888
@Xstine888 7 жыл бұрын
*REASON*. THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF NONTHINKING & BELIEF.
@FringeWizard2
@FringeWizard2 6 жыл бұрын
I just want to find audiobooks of his works instead of hearing some idiots rant about how controversial or "hard to understand" he is.
@gravytopic
@gravytopic 6 жыл бұрын
Fringe Wizard well who the fuck is stopping you
@FringeWizard2
@FringeWizard2 6 жыл бұрын
I have been trying to find said audiobooks but nobody seems to have uploaded any.
@nashasooryaya1956
@nashasooryaya1956 5 жыл бұрын
Listen to Audiobooks written by Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel - Audible
@nashasooryaya1956
@nashasooryaya1956 5 жыл бұрын
i.e.: www.audible.com/author/Georg-Wilhelm-Friedrich-Hegel/B004LPT3VM
@nashasooryaya1956
@nashasooryaya1956 5 жыл бұрын
For a comprehensive listing of Hegelian Philosophy Audio Books, click on: www.google.com/search?q=audio+books+od+Hegel&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb
@brindlilliahslilli5775
@brindlilliahslilli5775 9 жыл бұрын
Blah Blah Blah. I envision a mangy dog , feverishly chasing it's own tail.
@Booer
@Booer 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest you didn't want to touch on him because of the Anglo centered philosophy you focus on dear host, tell me I'm wrong
@hansvetter8653
@hansvetter8653 Жыл бұрын
Sir Karl R. Popper said about him: "Hegel ist ein Schwätzer"!
@insearchofnemo
@insearchofnemo 7 жыл бұрын
If this guy speaks to a wider audience than at least speak proper an not mumble.
@syourke3
@syourke3 10 жыл бұрын
The only mystery about Hegel is why anyone ever took him seriously at all.
@syourke3
@syourke3 10 жыл бұрын
Of course he was. Now, I have written you a prescription for some medications, you can have it filled at the local pharmacy. I want to you take them every day, twice a day, and we will meet here again in one week. Alright?
@reidhb1
@reidhb1 9 жыл бұрын
one good thing about Hegel is that the only people seriously trying to understand him ( except for Karl Marx ) have no problem with the concept of the Geist.
@syourke3
@syourke3 9 жыл бұрын
And just what, exactly, is the "Geist" if not another word for God?
@JediMindG
@JediMindG 8 жыл бұрын
+Entidad-Biológica I agree
@Xstine888
@Xstine888 7 жыл бұрын
*Thesis-Antithesis=Synthesis* •Problem •Reaction •Solution *Hegelian Dialect*
@petertancred3507
@petertancred3507 6 жыл бұрын
Ohhh pharck I hope we don't discover how to travel commercially at the speed of light I ouldn't be fucked losing my luggage beforehand.....
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