MONEY in TENNIS PART 1! RODDICK talks dollars & cents behind tennis with Max Eisenbud & Jon Wertheim

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Күн бұрын

Our most requested episode to date: Andy Roddick giving a peek behind the curtain of the Money in Tennis. Max Eisenbud kicks off the show to shed some light on the deals that some super-star tennis juniors sign; the good and the bad. Jon Wertheim and Producer Mike then ask Andy questions about his experiences with money through his career. Money is always a gross topic, but our hope is that this is informative and a small look into the world of tennis behind-the-scenes.
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0:00 Welcome to Served
2:27 Max Eisenbud joins the show
31:00 Andy Roddick getting offers from agents
33:52 Roddick’s family financial support
37:00 The terms of Andy Roddick’s first agency deal
41:45 Andy Roddick first prize money check
43:20 Are tennis players aware of each other’s finances?
46:53 Andy Roddick breaks down appearance fees
1:04:58 What happens financially when you win a slam?
1:10:00 Andy Roddick’s investing structure as a player
1:13:39 Speed Round
1:23:24 Advice to young players
1:24:55 What should players do when planning for retirement
1:31:18 Do the finances impact the quality of the sport?
1:39:35 Swing Vision Submission!

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@rick13953 10 күн бұрын

This the exact sort of behind the scenes stories that you won't find anywhere else. It really helps puts into perspective how difficult tennis of a career is.

@js1879 10 күн бұрын

Man, this podcast continues to be the best tennis content anyone can watch/listen.

@0nFoot 10 күн бұрын

This is precisely why Rybakina switched nationality from russian to Kazakhstani in 2018. The Kazakhstan Tennis Federation had offered her financial support to change her nationality

@ririta81 10 күн бұрын

Really I did think she did it because everyone is hating Russians now because of the war in Ukraine and also as a Russian she has a lot of competition with other Russian players lol and of course paying less income taxes lol

@joelmvdqp 10 күн бұрын

@@ririta81 Such a silly comment. Rybakina switched federations to Kazakhstan in June 2018. It was an easy google search.

@0nFoot 10 күн бұрын

@@ririta81 2018

@orchidpanda2253 9 күн бұрын

Same with Naomi - USTA refused to support her when she was starting out and JTA stepped in to support her.

@kasiama9062 9 күн бұрын

@@orchidpanda2253 Not really. She held a dual nationality but Under Japan’s Nationality Act, those with dual citizenship must choose one before their 22nd birthday. Naomi’s decision to relinquish her US citizenship came six days before her 22nd birthday. She was already a GS champion at that point.

@user-on3np7uf9r 9 күн бұрын

I've been a tennis fan for decades and this is my favorite pod of Andy's to date. Fascinating look behind the curtain of money in tennis and how the machine works. I was always interested in the machinations of it all, but since it was "taboo", much of it went unanswered. Love that Andy is doing these types of conversations with "people in the know" such as Max. As soon as the content of this pod was announced, I was instantly looking forward to it, and you didn't disappoint. Great job to the entire team and especially to Andy for "going there", when many wouldn't.

@alainlavoie2795 10 күн бұрын

Mr Roddick, I always love to see you play but now that I listen to your youtube channel, I regret that I didn't appreciate you more. Simply the best channel on tennis !

@juanpanca4388 9 күн бұрын

How is that even possible that you only have 33k subscribers. Worlds is nuts! You rocks Andy

@sk-un5jq 2 күн бұрын

He was very late to the game.

@anthonyvizzo1456 10 күн бұрын

Great stuff! You should do one on "Tennis Parents" and bring on Brian Barker, he can talk for hours about that stuff.

@anderscallenberg8632 9 күн бұрын

Professional Tennis seems to be neatly summed up in that classic ABBA song that goes something like ”The top 100 takes it all”

@gregwickstrom5479 9 күн бұрын

Thanks for having Max contribute and for taking time to explain details of other revenue streams. Excellent episode and next you guys can talk about the under compensated #50-200 players in the world.

@Qdello 10 күн бұрын

Honesty is much appreciated

@jdspider 9 күн бұрын

Yes. This topic is a must. I’m a jr player that wants to play pro. This helped a lot. Keep going into these topics.

@bentsoii 10 күн бұрын

Andy and the team, this is a great podcast that allows tennis fans to know the behind the scene economics in tennis world. always love to hear from a legend of the game

@hkpo20 9 күн бұрын

I was at Andy's US Open victory match. I'm as big a tennis fan as anyone and getting all the behind the scenes knowledge answering questions that have been in the back of my mind for ages makes this my favorite podcast at anything. Andy's analysis of tennis and explaining where the average commentators get it "wrong" is also worth its weight in gold. Thanks for this, Andy and co...

@tothelighthouse9843 9 күн бұрын

Well that was an eye-opener. I knew about appearance fees, but I had no idea they equal or exceed winnings. 1:32:43 "This money conversation is important...The asymmetry of money talk always hurts the talent, always hurts labour & always helps management". I love Jon for this.

@brendajohnson5525 10 күн бұрын

Fascinating. I like the behind the scenes information about professional tennis.

@SeanTenney777 9 күн бұрын

Please, talk about why tv wont' lower the camera angle during matches. Court level viewing shows so much more of what tennis has to offer. What is the roadblock? I look forward to this podcast every week, please keep it up. This is the best place for tennis analysis and behind the scenes details. Looking forward to the Champions Classic in Atlanta! Cheers.

@nickschulman986 9 күн бұрын

Advertisements around the perimeter of the court won’t be seen is what I’ve heard from a commentator before.

@mercury6765 4 күн бұрын

And it’s more difficult to see what the person on far side of the court is doing

@chewieonyaboot317 6 күн бұрын

Coulda been my favourite episode! I think the public knows more about the financial woes of the struggling pro than the crazy excesses of the superstar, so it was great that Andy pulled back the curtain. Keep up the great work!

@MrPvgo 9 күн бұрын

One of the best shows ever. Talking about money is taboo and that is one reason why so many persons struggle with it.

@joelmvdqp 10 күн бұрын

Honestly, your shared experience is incredibly amazing and insightful. It will benefit numerous juniors and tennis parents. Thanks, Andy, Jon and producer Mike.

@zeroelus 10 күн бұрын

I think you're all nailing it with the mix of "we just watched this match holy shit!" to "this is the behind the scenes operations". The only downside for me, is that I need to be focusing on these podcasts, since if you're driving or just having it playing while I'm doing somethings means I miss some nuggets of wisdom. Also, I think Mr. Eisenbud showed a real life example of just how much of a smooth operator he is with brand deals with that casual sponsor transition he did for yah.

@jujjeelf309 9 күн бұрын

Amazing insights into the tennis world. I live in Stockholm, Sweden. I have been a tennis fan since the 1970s.

@dalebarro2230 10 күн бұрын

Amazing content like is there awards for tennis news casting because give Andy the award he’s so insightful and talks about topics that people who love tennis actually LOVE to hear about

@steveosaur 10 күн бұрын

The background info here is insane! Thanks, Andy.

@44326449 10 күн бұрын

Somebody needs to write a book about this! This is awesome information

@user-vy3yr3pk3h 8 күн бұрын

great behind the scenes information; love Andy's candor and honesty

@kimmketelsen1079 9 күн бұрын

Podcast was not weird. Very good information. Keep up the good work. Thank you.

@zoohill 7 күн бұрын

Really appreciate all this!

@gerardogilsanz1171 10 күн бұрын

Thanks Andy Very insightful

@Giantandre70 3 күн бұрын

This podcast was beyond interesting ...Very open, doesn't get lost in weeds, and really informs .. thanks

@KCNwokoye 10 күн бұрын

Thank you for this episode. It was excellently done. You can always trust Andy and his team to deliver the highest quality simply because of how Andy thinks, the way his brain is wired, and his unique personality composition. I totally get him.

@tgmtennis659 9 күн бұрын

Are you gonna talk about Queens? You should have a look at Perricard and his insane serving stats. Just averaged 128 mph on 2nd serve against Ben, never have I seen a higher average. Only 5 DFs. He's getting these numbers consistently as well.

@orchidpanda2253 9 күн бұрын

Fantastic episode - wish someone brought up Dustin Brown living out of his van touring -- he's the example of a gifted phenom who didn't get the support to break through - the real baby Fed in my view. :)

@camilochaves4771 9 күн бұрын

best episode ever

@poisenopinionator 9 күн бұрын

Absolutely fascinating and appreciated. Wow this podcast doesn't disappoint. Thanks to the entire team for this content! Also - I love having full episodes on youtube, instead of having piecemeal from the show to watch - makes me uncertain which one to listen to (youtube vs. pod). Thanks again!!!!

@johnwalsh3451 5 күн бұрын

wonderful insight nothing like it for us hackers and weekenders keep up the great work

@Zenavesta 10 күн бұрын

Awesome episode! Very insightful and greatly appreciated Andy and guys and guests!

@irie2jones 10 күн бұрын

I really appreciated this episode! It's important to be as much informed about money and business deals as possible. Information is power.

@wendysgarden4283 9 күн бұрын

Thank you! I asked for this topic back when and knew you'd deliver just this well.

@JoanneSala 9 күн бұрын

What a wildly informative and fantastic conversation about prize money, endorsements, appearance fees, agents, sponsors. Truly eye-opening about the business of tennis-learning how to trust, who to trust, what’s important as you build a team and a career. I so appreciated Andy’s analysis and personal revelations. This is just what the rabid Andy/tennis fan in me wanted to know. Love the image of a 17-y-o Andy winning his first prize money and spending it all on a ridiculously sick car stereo system so he could blast OutKast in his high school parking lot. Hysterical! Best podcast ever! Keep ‘em coming.

@lyndseyandandrew5771 8 күн бұрын

Appreciate the tone and insights here. Thanks for putting this together team Served!

@felipemiranda9304 9 күн бұрын

All your subjects have been very interesting. This one is the best so far. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@nealT 10 күн бұрын

This is such an awesome and educational video. Love this podcast because these are topics you never hear about in the public. Andy puts a great spin on things with his humor as well. Love to hear more about sponsorships and different tiers with the clothing and racquet brands.

@MAELOB 8 күн бұрын

Thanks for this episode, amazing best ever insider discussion about tennis and money. Honestly this episode should be a required viewing for any aspiring professional tennis player and parents of high level juniors. Tennis needed these kind of discussions. Keep the great work

@user-ig2qh1pk8g 9 күн бұрын

the most interesting conversation on tennis I have ever heard well done

@helsbels991 6 күн бұрын

This is soooo good! Love how you break it down how difficult it is to get started in Tennis, most people think it is instant riches.

@elainepotgieter9403 9 күн бұрын

This is brilliant, so many things to unpack here and learn from, not just about tennis but about life in general and handling finances, planning for the future etc. Thank you Andy for being so open about everything, this is so good for so many people to hear.

@sefermemisoglu3800 9 күн бұрын

Not enough how many tanks I give for you guys! This is a real school of the podcast, knowing a bit more behind the doors truth of the “market” opens our eyes, and we also see the competition not only at a stage of the court but beyond.

@JoaoSilva-rb3xk 7 күн бұрын

Really enjoyed this episode, very interesting topic!

@RC-vj3db 9 күн бұрын

Great episode! I especially like episodes like these where you get a lot of info of the inner workings of being on the tour that you otherwise wouldn't get from pundits or just following the tour/watching Tennis Channel. As always, I appreciate Andy's candor and seemingly unfiltered truth/no B.S. in giving us the scoop.

@KrisHicks-rf4ct 8 күн бұрын

Fascinating episode. Thank you.

@bethhealey3601 3 күн бұрын

This was fabulous! more behind the scenes information about the tours and how hard it is being a tennis player. I love the idea of talking about players that are just starting out and they have to play the challenger tour, which I know little about. I think talking to/about Dustin Brown, the Jamaican/German tennis player who I believe traveled around Europe in a van his parents bought him to travel in to play tournaments. Might be interesting. Also, it might be interesting to talk about the chair umpires, how they start and how they become popular and in demand, or despised and never used. (see Bruno Ribeau)

@rebacohen5798 9 күн бұрын

Fascinating episode. I think most serious tennis fans know there is appearance money paid but I have never heard any former or current top player go into such detail about it and the whole array of deals offered to players. It doesn't sit comfortably with Andy to talk about it that's obvious but his honesty and openess are refreshing and endearing. Love this show!!!

@Lonor77 8 күн бұрын

Great conversation and great information you dont get anywhere else!!! Keep it up guys, best tennis show out there!

@lfhass 9 күн бұрын

Awesome episode. Great insights on tennis economics. Congratulations!

@jeremys5400 2 күн бұрын

Really fascinating to hear all this, so much more to the business than just hitting a fluffy ball!

@cyberpunk2 10 күн бұрын

Awesome show .Keep it going !

@christianmorton8513 7 күн бұрын

Excellent show Andy, please continue !

@lizbilson6602 7 күн бұрын

Awesome insight to things that we think about but no little about. And as per usual …, excellently presented. Very, very interesting.

@arnicolini 8 күн бұрын

Thanks Andy! I thought this episode was really interesting to see behind the scenes. Appreciate your candor, and peak into the life as a top tennis pro.

@bomberoflamenco 8 күн бұрын

Thanks for this in depth behind the curtain universe. Thank you

@user-kr1vf6eq3i 7 күн бұрын

FANTASTIC EPISODE. IT IS GREAT TO KNOW WHAT IS. BEHIND THE SCENE. PLEASE GO ON WITH THE CHALLENGERS PLAYERS.

@ads213 7 күн бұрын

I am smarter than before I heard this pod. Thanks A-Rod

@99Lmaster 9 күн бұрын

Really interesting, it's great to get that insight. Thank you all

@harinderrai1142 9 күн бұрын

great topic...very interesting....thanks Andy!!!

@rkane19 8 күн бұрын

I was a tennis coach from 2002 to 2020 so I was in the industry during Andy's rise. The amount of Babolat Pure Drives we sold because every kid wanted one was crazy.

@The_Bashar 8 күн бұрын

Respect your candour and the way you tell trigger-happy fingers on twitter to lump it 😂. 💪🏿

@TheCollaborate 9 күн бұрын

It is an awesome episode. Andy, love that you are so candid. You are unique in the greatest way❤️

@prachakkratevarita9304 8 күн бұрын

Best tennis podcast so far.

@michaelbailey39 9 күн бұрын

Great content. That was super interesting and informative. I wouldn't mind a part 2 focusing on the support cast - presenters, journalists (sure Jon Wertheim would be happy to spill), main tour umpires etc.

@arthung2 8 күн бұрын

Great stuff guys!

@pablomurgasilva5651 8 күн бұрын

This episode was great. I had this idea of glamour for tennis players but it certainly has a price behind it.

@jobvaneijk7776 3 күн бұрын

1:20:03 Andy won’t name names, great as he is.. but for anyone wondering.. it’s probably Bogomolov Jr. Anyway, thanks for this great episode!

@DarthMalgus666 8 күн бұрын

This is very interesting and as per usual, the honesty is on point

@jamaalclarke2380 9 күн бұрын

Ive been attending ITF 15k tournaments for the last three weeks in San Diego, and I've been wondering about this financial stuff. Perfect timing. Very fascinating.

@thomasb.8506 9 күн бұрын

I enjoyed every minute. Thank you! Greetings from Germany.

@MalibuSky 10 күн бұрын

Great insight on a topic not usually discussed in any sport.👍

@rolfziegel7919 10 күн бұрын

this is so interesting👍👍

@natacharicher 5 күн бұрын

I've only listened to a few episodes so far but I find the podcast very interesting, and I found this one on a maybe more taboo subject quite honest and very informative. You have a new subscriber! I already know it's not easy at all for them but I would really love to hear about what it's like financially for players at Challenger and ITF level some day.

@AllezJuniorTennisMagazine 9 күн бұрын

The description often comes up in this episode about it being a disgusting topic, but this episode has so much value! What is disgusting is that in a country like South Africa (where I am based), there is an absolute vacuum of this type of financial ecosystem or infrastructure. There are no agents, no real sponsors, no deals to be made yet ALL of the exorbitant cost of playing the sport. That being said, there is a huge opportunity for this type of ecosystem to be established. There are hugely talented players that win ITFs yet find it difficult to raise money to make it overseas. Due to our exchange rate, we cannot have an open or even a 250 event never mind pay players appearances to feature here. There are companies tied to the sport here that make massive sums off players yet are not prepared to boost their presence, and no agents to market the personas. In this country, we would give anything to have this type of economic infrastructure. John-Laffnie de Jager has been trying to kickstart this type of thing for years but has said in all honesty its not really possible. I don't really believe it. Great podcast. Extremely valuable.

@gaganpreetsingh9848 2 күн бұрын

Good work Andy 👏🏼

@megantheranpillay699 Күн бұрын

Great pod

@johnp1 8 күн бұрын

Very informative. I've been curious about the topics in this podcast.

@danfisher9620 7 күн бұрын

Fantastic episode. Thanks for sharing. Would really be interested in similar discussion from point of view of ATP #50 and ATP #250 type players (assume they are very different from this and each other).

@olgadottir1528 8 күн бұрын

A lot of interesting insights in this video, thank you Andy. Haven't you considered to do a special episode dedicated to the US college tennis?

@markfrench6790 7 күн бұрын

Please do an episode on the money in ITF or Challenger tour level events please!

@jjohnson1859 9 күн бұрын

Interesting topic, informative. I was always a Federer fan and was happy to see Federer beat the stuffing out of you ;) but aside from all that, your podcast is great You do an outstanding job on this platform.

@nancyp7019 9 күн бұрын

So interesting-I had no idea that much was happening behind the scenes.

@alecjustin425 9 күн бұрын

Love these sort of behind the scenes discussions about all the stuff I've always wondered about the professional tour! 2 other topics I would love to know more about: 1. Tournament Management- How are tournaments created/lost? Are they actually profitable or do they rely on donors/national funding? What's the budget breakdown? Who are all the other "players" that make a tournament happen besides the tennis players and what sorts of logistics are in place? How does this differ between ITF events up to Grand Slams? 2. Sustainability- Pro tennis is an incredibly consumptive sport from balls/shoes/strings/water bottles up to flying around the globe for players and their entourage. The ATP has a plan in place that as this point seems more like an evaluation and has players tracking their carbon footprints....are they doing enough? What emissions reductions strategies are currently in place/in the works/on the table? Is it actually feasible to consider emissions when as a player, you are trying to prioritize moving up the rankings?

@blankword4565 9 күн бұрын

Best tennis brain out right now

@paulelverstone8677 9 күн бұрын

Love this. Always nice to get the inside line on what happens when the camera's aren't rolling on the players. Absolutely do another podcast on the inbalances of prize monies lower down the chain with challengers/futures. It's always surprising to me to learn that a junior No.1/GS champion can't or doesn't progress from there to elite level and wonder how much of that is sponsorship and funding...

@jaysunzow 8 күн бұрын

Andy is so well spoken

@tennissir1986 10 күн бұрын

Great channel. Tennis finances are a black box to average fans like me. The next black box is coaching in tennis.

@draconis228 8 күн бұрын

greatest pod episode of all time?

@EricNixonMaine 9 күн бұрын

This is a great episode. Thanks for all the inside information. I'd love to here from a player who is in the top 50-100 and see what their finances are like. Without getting to personal. Thanks for all the great content!

@fabianstockwin952 8 күн бұрын

Following from Max's comments about careers in tennis. Would be cool for you to interview people in the tennis field that dont hit a ball over the net e.g. stats people technicians etc

@gmoad23 8 күн бұрын

Great episode! some topics that would be great: post match routines Andy´s favorite and least favorite players to play Get a former wimbledon champ for the grass season (Muguruza, Barty, Kvitova, obviously Federer and Serena LOL)

@This_is_karim 3 күн бұрын

Great episode guys. Thank you. Suggestion for a topic in racket deals. Also known so not known little secret of players playing with the same racket but different pain job. Sometimes even a different brand.👍🏽

@sciencelover7582 10 күн бұрын

This was great btw...doing another episode on players in challengers/futures events and comparing that to the "cream of the crop" would also be interesting