Did I see a 2 in the binary code.... Wtf

Only an idiot would believe 24 fps is the most a human could see.

I'm pretty sure no one would get offended by that image since most people who watch this stuff are pc gamers.

Why did the peasant look up into the sky? To achieve a stable 30fps!

4:16 - Took me 9x to get the pause right. Glorious, PC gaming master race (Image of a strong hercules puppet) Dirty console peasant (Image of a small puppet covered in dirt)

In games motion blur is usually fucking nauseating unless done well enough.

That quick frame was "Glorious PC Gaming Master Race, Dirty console peasant".

I saw that mysterious number 2 in that binary linus.

1:15 HOLD ON !! Is that a 2 as a data ?!?

I personally prefer 0-0.5 fps for my games. In fact, if they could just make every game a powerpoint presentation i'd be so happy. Anything above 1fps gives me headaches and hurts my brain, even though the human eye can't see above 1fps.

Motion blur in gaming is terrible

HAH i saw the 2 in your binary.

I always turn off motion blur. I assume most people here do to. Linus has the smartest youtube community i've seen. 90% of people don't even know what 60fps means, but 90% of Linus subscribers do. Ya'll should feel proud.

I'm a PC gamer, I own consoles, I have fun with both. Would I like more frames for consoles? Hell yeah. Does it stop me from playing console games and put everyone else down? No. If FPS and graphics was everything, I would not pull out my NES (and pretty much every other console) once in a while and have hours of fun. It's great to push for more refresh rates, I just wish "those guys" (you guys know who I mean), didn't look down on everyone and shit on consoles. I love the ability to plug in two cords, shove a disk in, and play. That is what a console is good at. I don't have to update security, graphics drivers, error reports, compatibility problems, water cooling leaks etc... There is a reason why consoles are great. PC is my favorite, but not everyone has the know how or time to put a good rig together or how to keep a machine running smooth. Peace

why have a 144hz monitor when we only have 2 eyes ThIs iS Ridiculous

I love this channel! I always learn something, even with topics I’m familiar with, and they do such a great job taking complex topics and subjects and making them understandable for the layperson. Bravo!

at 1:15 , WHY IS THERE A 2 IN THE BINARY? IT HURTS MY EYES :D

30 FPS to 60 FPS makes a damn lotta difference, Once I had this shit-tier GPU, 6670 dual graphics I was satisfied with high textures and 30 FPS Then I upgraded into 750 ti Now even 50 FPS is unacceptable

"The human eye can only see 24 FPS" that's one of the biggest peasantries ever> XD

That cheeky 2 at 1:16

GLORIOUS PC GAMING MASTER RACE!

Gz for getting linked by Totalbiscuit! :) Now that you've got his attention, maybe try bugging him to come on to the WAN-show as a guest? ;)

theres a perceivable difference between 30fps and 60fps so I dunno why people are bitching about 24 being the max the eye can perceive

did you also pause at 4:16 to see 'this image' ?

Dude, KZfaq! We need 120fps clips!

Glorious Pc Master Race.. That was the pic

As someone with prosopagnosia and a neuroscience degree, I am overjoyed you talked about how your eyes are not the only component to your vision.

that was some dope explaining of something that has bothered me for a long time! congrats!

4:16 GLORIOUS PC GAMING MASTER RACE dirty console peasant

A fun explanation and good point about personal subjectivity. Years ago I had a CRT monitor at work and thought nothing of refresh rates; but one time when an IT guy came by my desk, he winced in pain when looking at the screen. After showing me it was only at 30 hz, and how much better it was when set at 80 hz, I was really impressed by the change. Ever since I've been careful to check the refresh rate on all monitors and have noticed a big improvement in video games I can run at high fps.

say glorious pc gaming master race...

4:16 - 4:16 Glorious PC Gaming Master Race. gotcha you!

I was a console gamer for many years growing up. I was used to not having options and with the 360 almost all games came in 30fps. I didn't complain because I never got to experience it at 60hz until I built my pc and had a 1080p monitor to play it with. True 1080 looked much better and felt very smooth in 60hz, same game, same engine. Then I got a 144hz monitor. Same game, same engine, but now I literally can not pick out a frame. I'm certain that if I actually turned motion blur on, it would feel like a higher hz rate but only just. After a few weeks with 144hz, I went back to 60 just to try it and it felt like 30hz back when I was used to 60hz. However, I can confirm that is not a bad thing. I had a friend who, at this point in time, just got the PS4. I had him do a blind test going between 30 to 60. Then from 60 to 90 to 120 to 144. He was able to clearly identify from 30 and 60 with zero mistakes. the 60, 90, 120, 144 test he only made a mistake with 120 saying it was 144. The rest was all on the spot. So do not say you can't tell the difference. As a matter of fact, math says that if our brains can process our fastest measuring rate (the millisecond, or ms) of 1ms, then we should be able to see a difference between 144hz and 480hz. However, this is no monitor that is 480hz for someone to test this theory. I do believe though that 144hz is a good refresh rate as it is very hard to render past this with good image quality. Right now, the most I can get on a game in 4K resolution is 78fps average in CS:GO on my GTX970 with Core i7-4770k (not sure the Ghz anymore, I need to check my bios settings). 60fps is playable for me but I really struggle to play more than 20 minutes at 30fps. So in conclusion, 60hz is minimal, 120-144hz is optimal, 480hz+ is tits P.S. They ruined battlefield!

As for the eyes, no they don't see in frames per second. They see a continuous stream of picture, but they also work similarly to a camera's shutter in that at any given moment, the image on the retina will contain visual information from the last several milliseconds. For most people this will be longer than 16ms, meaning frame rates higher than 60fps will offer no improved motion information for most human eyes, given that they have proper motion blur. If motion blur is disabled, then the human eye will see improvements potentially up to several thousand fps, but that's just because the eye is simulating that motion blur itself.

You are doing so much for the IT community with these videos. Thx alot Linus, your'e tha real mvp. 😎👑

my friend told me he can see the difference between 60 fps and 100 fps, i checked his monitor 60 Hz lol

Higher is definitely better, and this is a severe drawback and disadvantage with current consoles. I am curious as to what the "upper limit" is in gaming applications though. I can't bare less than 60fps now that I'm used to it, and 120fps is glorious with a matching 120Hz monitor (wish I owned that kind of setup myself). But I know that 144Hz is popular too. So.. how much further can it go?

IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO PAUSE THE VIDEO ON THAT EXACT FRAME, BUT I DID IT. I DID IT, LINUS.

4:15 to 4:16 even at 1/4 video speed, i still had trouble seeing that.

I like getting back to these videos every now and then, even tho i already know what's it about, it's just entertaining

totalbiscuit must agree with you.

Yes, I hate it so much when people claim that the human eye can't notice anything higher than 30 fps or 60 fps. I personally own an Asus 120 hz monitor and there is a massive difference between 60 hz and 120 hz. Just moving windows around feels more responsive and smoother with a 120 hz monitor. There's also a very noticeable difference in games.

Doing a tech quickie marathon here! I love you Linus! and crew :) Building my 5820k/gtx970 pc tomorrow

You guys are totally the Glorious pc master race. This video is very refreshing.

Wow i noticed the 2 in the binary at 1:15.. Maybe everyone already saw it...

Did anyone catch the image?

1:12 One's and Zeros everywhere! And I think I saw a TWO!

1:15 actually there's a "2"

What I learned from this video: Linus pronounces "GIF" wrong, and likes Kraft Dinner.

Anyone who thinks 30fps or even 60fps is the ceiling for smooth gameplay hasn't seen a 120 or 144hz monitor running a game at 120fps or higher.

Hi Linus! These videos are EXTREMELY helpful! Could you please make video explaining MHz in the primary computer components?

4:16 I managed to time that pause perfectly :P PC MASTER RACE FOR THE WIN!!!

It's quite a misconception to think that 24FPS is the _maximum_ that the human eye/brain can distinguish because that's the standard movie framerate. 24FPS is not a maximum anything. It's a _minimum_. More precisely, it's a minimum framerate that, for a film, is not annoying. In other words, it's right in the lower limit of where the brain "fills the gaps" and gives (barely) the illusion of smooth movement. (Even then it requires for the film to have motion blur, which standard film naturally has.) This minimum does not mean that the human brain cannot distinguish higher framerates from 24FPS. Of course it can, and it can do so quite easily. The reason why they originally chose this minimum is because film was very expensive, so they wanted to get the minimum framerate they could use so that they could fit as much movie per feet of film they could. (If the cost of film had been a non-issue, we would probably have much higher frame rates in movies today.)

Hey, console peasants! Watch this and see all your arguments becoming invalid.

Do you think you could perform an experiment where you perform a certain measurable task in a video game using monitors with only differing refresh rates and see if you have measurably better performance? I understand that the monitors are distinguishable but I'm wondering if it's really worth it. Great video!

There shouldn't be a 2 in the binary code.

Linus is always dropping that in-depth, accurate, real shit so concisely. Awesome video.

DAMN YOU LINUS YOU MADE ME PAUSE 200 TIMES SO I CAN SEE THAT IMAGE

Thanks for this, Im one of those masses that need educating about this subject and it can be difficult to sort the hearsay from the facts!

I was running CS:GO on my laptop with a crappy Geforce 710M capped at 60fps because that is my monitor refresh rate, and it was dipping as low as 30 fps in crowded situations. However I did lower the graphics settings to 800x600 on 3:4 and removed the cap to check things out, and running at 80-120 fps has greatly improved my gameplay even though the monitor is 60Hz only, and this is due to FRAME LATENCY. If my monitor can only display 1 frame per sec, it is better off having to choose between several frames picking up the latest, rather than having to (in some cases) wait for a frame to be generated by the GPU as it is only providing 60 frames as well when capped. Game runs smoother, does not stutter and aiming becomes a bit easier when always staying at that 80+ fps rate.

EDIT: Thanks for all the helpful comments! I'm a film/tv junkie, and am very particular about how my shows and movies look. I love higher FPS and refresh rate for games, but every 120hz television I've seen has made me want to vomit. But maybe all those televisions were running motion flow or something? Adding in extra frames instead of just refreshing the same frame 4 times in a row? I'm afraid that if I get a 120hz monitor all the movies I watch on it are going to look like garbage...

04:16 the picture says: glorious pc gaming master race, dirty console peasant

Dammit, Linus! You have no idea how much time I spent on refreshing the page and seeing if anything was robbing resources when I got around the 1-minute mark. You're explaining refresh rates... you're using them as examples... I'm embarrassed how long it took me to figure that out, lol.

This video is still helpful after 7 years.

Did anyone else notice the 2 in the binary code :p

With how fast you move your hands Linus you need to record your video at 120 FPS or higher.

I have always like your videos, they are very helpful ;)

All I saw was a yellow background with some figure that appeared to have long white hair and I was like 'yeah it's a PC master race joke'.

So that WAN show question was actually made into a tech quickie? Cool

Wanna see the hidden image that Linus flashes? Set the video to .25x speed (Next to fullscreen mode) Set buffer to 4:12 Linus makes 3 pointing gestures towards the camera,then a 4th he slight points to the side with a flick, start spamming pause/unpause until you get it. You're welcome.

my tv does 32 fps max will this work if I put a titan in it? not saying I already bought one or anything lol

Another thing to consider is streaking/tracers. Your eyes always have a bit of latency behind them, where an image will stick around depending on the brightness and duration. In real life, this is the cause for motion blur. On games without motion blur, you can see the separation of the images. If a lightsaber was to whiz across the screen, you would see multiple lightsabers. It doesn't matter if the frame rate is really high, this pattern occurs in objects moving with sufficient speed. In real life, this does not happen. Instead, the lightsaber would be brightest in its current location, and simply have a streak behind it. This is what motion blur tries to correct. The higher the refresh rate, the less motion blur you need to alleviate this effect. I would say that by the time you are getting 120FPS with proper, full frame-to-frame blurring, you won't be able to discern much more, at least at common monitor brightnesses. In many cases, 60 already gets you there, but current motion blur techniques aren't quite there, so you get other weird effects like your gun blurring or even the HUD blurring. With actual film, 48FPS was very nearly there already. I could only imagine 60FPS movies.

1:15 Silly Linus! “2” isn’t a binary digit!

So if i want to play at 120 fps, and i have a 60hz monitor, i'll be seeing 60 fps and not the actual 120 fps?

Glorious PC Gaming Master Race - This was the image you were talking about in 4:17

1:20 haha I love how a picture of a 780ti comes up when Linus says "much much faster"

I've heard game devs say "30 fps it the max the eye can see." and even before I knew that wasn't true, it seemed dubious.

1:14 Lol there is a 2 wtf?

Short but detailed video, good explainations. Thumps up.

Do you have a link for the video you referenced around 3:30 regarding refresh rate on monitors so I can throw it in my friend's face? Also what type of cable should I use to get the most out of my 144hz monitor?

Linus , you have done already a video about anti aliasing and one about anisotropic filtering . Now i would like to see one explaining ambient occlusion.

Could you please 'remake' this video now that youtube supports 60 fps? Regardless, great job as always.

For me 30fps is okay just for non-gaming videos but gaming I need at least 60fps because I can pretty easily tell if I drop something like 5 fps

When you have a 60hz monitor and 200fps, would i have 200 fps on a 144hz monitor ?

at 4:16 it says GLORIOUS PC GAMING MASTER RACE (with a guy with nice hair as the pc guy) and then it says in small text pointing at a dirty guy (dirty console peasant) (go on super slow motion if you wanna see it

Excellent vid, Linus. Maybe we can quash the whole debate with this video alone? Nah. Sadly, that will never happen.

*Glorious PC gaming Master race* at 4:16

I know you guys did an update to this video already and pretty recently.. BUT Can you please describe in detail the difference between both FPS and Hz but include details like if you (in my case) have a powerful GPU and a monitor that is 75hz but with FreeSync/GSync and play games that can go upwards of 100-300 FPS and how that might affect the difference when enabled? Seems specific, but I'm sure somewhere in the PC master race theres someone with the same question.

tfw you play on a friends 120htz CRT and suddenly 60fps looks like 30fps

"Glorious Pc master race, dirty console peasant" Thats what hat yellow flash image says. lol

Thanks for explaining about motion blur. I've heard how people scream for more and more fps in games while that won't help to achieve "cinematic feel" because only 24 fps with natural motion blur is what makes cinematic videos to look like they do. But I'm afraid that video adapters aren't yet ready for that cinematic looking blur. If they were, 24 fps would be enough for almost every game. Here is a great photography article explaining how our brains are used to certain fps for movies, TV news etc. and how we feel uncomfortable if our expectations aren't met: photography.tutsplus.com/articles/quick-tip-how-does-shutter-speed-affect-video--photo-12092

3:30 oh look that's my PC case :D Looooooove the Vengeance C70

This was great, only thing id add is that even on a 60Hz display more frames per second is still better. The difference in responsiveness between 60FPS and 120 is staggering. Even the difference between 120-200 is noticeable in many games.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE... MAKE ONE OF THIS BUT ABOUT DEFRAGMENTATION.... you would not believe the number of people that dont know why they have to do it

I actually found a neat example to demonstrate this to a friend of mine who believed the idea that you couldn't visually see the difference in FPS. Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 for The Nintendo Switch runs at about 30 for normal gameplay, but in 1 v 1 battles, it goes up to 60fps for fairness!

Question answered, thanks again Linus

I fucking love my 144hz monitor

So if I have a 60hz refresh rate monitor and in game the fps drops to 50, would i notice it?

Well actually our eyes have a constant limit... the speed of light. We can't update more images beyond light speed. That's for displays AND the real world But somehow... the real world looks really laggy to me... unlike a screen

there it is and here you are.