Monokote techniques, applying stripes!

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Andy Gideon

4 жыл бұрын

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@RWJetfan
@RWJetfan 3 жыл бұрын
I learned more from this video covering and using Monokote and ironing than any other video on KZfaq. Thanks Andrew.
@DomiDomi00LOVE00TeK
@DomiDomi00LOVE00TeK 3 жыл бұрын
True
@turbinematt3646
@turbinematt3646 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! Very good and very informative! That wing looks great!
@kenbraner8196
@kenbraner8196 4 жыл бұрын
Great job Andy. You make it look so easy !
@stevecoggins2591
@stevecoggins2591 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man. Thanks for taking the time to show us how. That plane looks great cant wait to see it fly.
@adrianchupp
@adrianchupp 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job Andy! I hadn't thought of polishing my covering iron, might have to try it!
@TheBigChinoDon
@TheBigChinoDon 4 жыл бұрын
I just got done polishing one of my irons. Disassembled and wet sanded it. Started out with 400 grit and stepped down till I got to 5000 grit. Then I polished with Mother's Mag & Aluminum polish. It's silky smooth.
@jeffworsham8240
@jeffworsham8240 4 жыл бұрын
LOL I knew I was in the right place after the belch! Nice job of covering and video making. Keep it up man.
@IJustGotHere
@IJustGotHere 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't got one of these tools yet but I always thought the stripe was prepped with the tiny holes. Thanks for sharing.
@raudelsanchez8748
@raudelsanchez8748 8 ай бұрын
Great video! Very educational!! So good I found it!! Learned more in the almost 34 minutes it lasts, than in the 30 years i've been scratch building planes and building kits. Thank you very much👍
@n1114v
@n1114v 8 ай бұрын
We never stop learning!
@travisfries
@travisfries 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew for explaining your technique.
@ROLXXII
@ROLXXII 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Andrew - thank you for making this tutorial. I'll definitely follow your technique for my covering projects.
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
Your welcome
@alannewman85
@alannewman85 7 ай бұрын
Brilliant - I haven't done this before and your cool, calm explanation/demonstration is exactly what I need - gonna try doing my stripes in a similar pattern to yours, on my Ben Buckle Super 60.
@DonDegidio
@DonDegidio 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew, Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It is the best I have seen to apply Monokote over Monokote. Have viewed your previous videos on covering with Monokote. Just started watching the build series of the Ziroli Panther. Stay safe.
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don!
@Ka0145
@Ka0145 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice good idea polishing the iron I'll have to try that can't wait to see her fly thanks for sharing
@Rosster6028
@Rosster6028 4 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video Andy! Great tutorial with features, techniques and benefits. That being said, those of us that really know you are not at all fooled by those grandpa reading glasses... :)
@CliffHarveyRCPlanes
@CliffHarveyRCPlanes 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Andrew I've not seen this tool before, reading on a forum you can use them on sheeted surfaces as well but you must roll with the grain and give a quick sand before covering, I'll look out for one, thanks for sharing. (PS New subscriber in the UK).
@jasonmcclure9335
@jasonmcclure9335 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining your techniques and tips. I look forward to seeing the Corona Cub take flight.
@seanchase171
@seanchase171 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work, thanks for the tips!
@SomeGuyInSandy
@SomeGuyInSandy 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip on smoothing the covering iron. Makes total sense, and socks really are a hassle!
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they are!
@SomeGuyInSandy
@SomeGuyInSandy 2 жыл бұрын
@@n1114v It's been a year, but I finally found a (reasonably priced) Woodpecker!
@Vicusdickus
@Vicusdickus 4 жыл бұрын
Have to polish my iron, that’s a good idea. Good job on the plane wing.
@whoisjohngalt5258
@whoisjohngalt5258 Жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of polishing the face of the iron!! And I thought I was the GOAT when it came to Monokote and Ultracoat!!! Good Stuff Andy!!!
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I use a tshirt on my iron now and it allows me to control temp to covering by pressure. Works well
@thilofrisch9894
@thilofrisch9894 11 ай бұрын
Awesome thank you for the video ! Very helpful !
@paultravis7580
@paultravis7580 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Blue windex works great something in windex reacts with the adhesive. Still have to go over edges with a trim iron. good to see a fellow builder lol
@JessicaSimonson1976
@JessicaSimonson1976 3 жыл бұрын
The ammonia same reason they use it for vinyl graphics
@RC-Flight
@RC-Flight Жыл бұрын
Love the woodpecker tool idea!
@robertstark3326
@robertstark3326 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't covered a plane in years but I always used to use the Woodpecker over the stripe part before placing it on the wing (LOL). My memory may be mistaken but don't remember seeing the holes after it was ironed on. Never thought to pecker the wing itself.
@DomiDomi00LOVE00TeK
@DomiDomi00LOVE00TeK 3 жыл бұрын
Best covering video out there... This guy clearly knows what he's doing
@thewrightstuff6174
@thewrightstuff6174 3 жыл бұрын
Looks frighin great to me regardless of what happened. She's a beautiful wing. Thanks for the lesson.
@eeromahonen7282
@eeromahonen7282 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again. Really informative video..
@wildgoobsid5
@wildgoobsid5 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been at this for 42 yrs and still learn new things. Thanks. I’ve done it all with RC but still find actual “building” with balsa and covering to be the most satisfying thing of all. I think a lot of the newbies are really missing something. Cheers.
@whitewolfoutdoors3418
@whitewolfoutdoors3418 3 жыл бұрын
i just got into balsa building and boy ive been missing the boat for 8 years until now haha i agree
@bsg-wrencha-snake2676
@bsg-wrencha-snake2676 3 жыл бұрын
In about 5 or so months im going to get a guillow edge 540 and make it rc. Its going to be my first rc and 3rd balsa plane
@vulcan106
@vulcan106 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh....just read in the comments where you explain how you got that smooth polish on the coverin shoe. Very good...thanks.
@mrreddog
@mrreddog 2 жыл бұрын
WOW, does that look nice... Im a year & a half into flying medium to large foamies & gotten pretty good a clear laminate. But this is way beyond that, Very beautiful art. I have an illness that really holds me back, but one day im hoping to get into large balsa birds like this. Very nice!!
@n1114v
@n1114v 2 жыл бұрын
Just go for it! No need to be in any hurry
@thomasdaniel2022
@thomasdaniel2022 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really informative video, thanks for sharing your knowledge sir.
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@alwaysflying6540
@alwaysflying6540 Жыл бұрын
I used to think I was terrible at covering because I could never compete with covering jobs like yours. I had no idea about these techniques. Nice work
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
Covering isn't so bad when you know a few tricks
@tomdurkin7321
@tomdurkin7321 7 ай бұрын
Nicely done
@greggelko2422
@greggelko2422 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thank you for taking the time! I would really like to know that process of polishing those Iron feet (paper grit, compound used and how often you need to repolish). Any videos of laying down individual cut checkerboards?
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
I use 400 grit to remove the Teflon surface from the iron. Once the Teflon is gone I work my way up to 2000 grit and then finish it off with an aluminum Polishing Compound. I've never been a big fan of checkerboard, takes way too much time.
@erichiles9568
@erichiles9568 3 жыл бұрын
Yea that's great I'm old school too I picked one up at sale that I dont know what brand it is
@drafter131
@drafter131 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job Andy
@p3arljam26
@p3arljam26 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and well explained. I admit i am not good at covering and i have a question. I have a P 47 that is about 10 years old and the Horizontal and vertical stabilizer are covered in black and yellow checkerboard. The clear film is beginning to lift from the checkerboard if i were to re cover the tail section do i have to cut the rudder and elevator surfaces at the hinges or can it be covered with them still hinged?
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
If you do not want to remove the hinges all you need to do is cut the covering about a quarter inch away from the hinge area then when you recover the surfaces overlap slightly to the old covering.
@howardwilliams2587
@howardwilliams2587 4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, thanks for sharing. I have several woodpeckers but never used them. I'm the Windex squeegee person who forgets to iron on the stripes the next day because it does have some adhesion and I suffer from CRS. And yes it will come off after a flight or two 😣
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
This is the only method I'll use now
@terrymunn1224
@terrymunn1224 Жыл бұрын
Andy, when you cut the covering between the wing trailing endge and aileron leading end do cut it along the hinge line so it can be wrapped down over the wing TE and the ail LE...Thanks
@timbuffington5717
@timbuffington5717 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that video. Thanks
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@TheBigChinoDon
@TheBigChinoDon 4 жыл бұрын
New subscriber, thanks for the vids. Would you consider doing a video on just covering curves (wing tips, vertical/horizontal stabs) and how to get a smooth finish.
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
I'm fresh out of covering projects at the moment but the next time I do have to cover a wingtip I will post a video
@TheBigChinoDon
@TheBigChinoDon 4 жыл бұрын
@@n1114v Thanks
@warbirdflyerF4U
@warbirdflyerF4U 9 ай бұрын
Another great video Andy I'm sure this will help a lot of us especially those less experienced With confidence in their covering Would love to see you actually do a wing tip Those compound curves can be very tough to get The wrinkles out Thanks again great video
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn 3 жыл бұрын
Can the plane be flown without being fined?
@horaciooduber
@horaciooduber 5 ай бұрын
Nice job. Thanks.
@Vdubin64bug
@Vdubin64bug 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched a bunch of your videos.. Dang, you are way younger, than I imagined you being.. Definitely, a cool setup that you have.. I've been flying about 27 years now and have quite the collection myself.. I still have planes from when I first started, along with some of my first scratch build projects.. I'm also a builder.. It's very nice to be able to relate.. I've never gotten into modern planes and foam.. Not saying that they don't have their place, they've just never really excited me.. Great videos man.. I enjoy watching.. Do you ever find yourself building while having an Rc guy on KZfaq rambling in the background.. I kinda think that's how I managed to stumble across your channel.. KZfaq going on auto mode and me gluing my fingers together.. Much love brother!
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the kind words!
@alessandrobertoncini1137
@alessandrobertoncini1137 Ай бұрын
L'attrezzo dei buchi si può usare anche su un ala rivestita in balsa? GRAZIE complimenti x il lavoro
@NorthGaSawyer
@NorthGaSawyer 4 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video.
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
Can't work without there being planes on the tv!
@125saito
@125saito Жыл бұрын
Hi Andy. I see that you are using what appears to be Robart hinges for aileron attachment. Did you add any additional balsa stock inside the wing and aileron to give a stronger glue bond?
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
Yes, half inch balsa blocks
@AnchorsAweighNarooma
@AnchorsAweighNarooma Жыл бұрын
Hi Great instruction video, thanks..Question as the covering is done how do you fit the hinges for the aileron ?. I have been trying to buy a pecker but seems harder than finding one in a snow storm ?
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
I made a jig basically just a drill guide that allowed me to drill my robart hinges as close to the tops of the wing surface as possible
@AnchorsAweighNarooma
@AnchorsAweighNarooma Жыл бұрын
@@n1114v Many thanks,
@zubuxstein
@zubuxstein 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video starting from the beginning, cutting the monokote, template etx... if not, is cool as well. I applied some of your techniques and was able to do some basic stripes for now.
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
I can show more on my next covering project
@hsbrooks
@hsbrooks 4 жыл бұрын
Long ago before the woodpecker tool existed I made a puncture tool to do the same thing. I stuck a bunch of T-pins through a small piece of plywood, glued them in from the top side and glued in a handle made from a piece of 1/4 sq spruce. Just poke poke poke in the outlined area. Tacked on the trim and ironed away.
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
I still have a balsa block with t pins!
@485princess
@485princess 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I get a woodpecker? What is the proper name for it?
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
@@485princess they are hard to find now since horizon bought out hobbico and discontinued it.
@charleswhite7134
@charleswhite7134 4 жыл бұрын
What state you in, Andrew? I STILL haven't seen the field here in California!
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
Michigan
@homienat3374
@homienat3374 4 ай бұрын
By the way wing looks top notch mate
@aldensrc6663
@aldensrc6663 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of the pro modeler servos I’m thinking about putting them in my 33% extra
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
I have them in a few of my planes and so far I am extremely impressed
@jcowboy123
@jcowboy123 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job ! How did you plot the stripe sizes ? Thx in advance
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
Paper templates
@mitchilito99
@mitchilito99 8 ай бұрын
Great vid, Andy but I will say denatured alcohol is a better choice for removing sharpie marks.
@tcgliderguy1
@tcgliderguy1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea to polish the face of a sealing iron. How did you sand off the Teflon coating without making the surface too rough to polish?
@n1114v
@n1114v 2 жыл бұрын
Started with 220 and worked my way to 1500, then polished
@tcgliderguy1
@tcgliderguy1 2 жыл бұрын
@@n1114v Having never done it, it sounds like sanding chewing gum, but I’m willing to give it s try. Thanks!
@n1114v
@n1114v 2 жыл бұрын
@@tcgliderguy1 it actually comes off quite easily
@slimjam44
@slimjam44 11 ай бұрын
I've been covering planes for 30+ years and never thought of polishing the iron shoe. I'm headed to the basement to try it!
@kevingoza
@kevingoza 3 жыл бұрын
Answered several Monocote questions! Gonna get a “Woodpecker!”
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
There hard to come by
@kevingoza
@kevingoza 3 жыл бұрын
Yes...I’m figuring that out...hopefully I’ll luck up on one.
@homienat3374
@homienat3374 8 күн бұрын
Hi again mate, could i just put the white sraight on to the solid middle section of wing with out cutting out shape ,thanks
@n1114v
@n1114v 8 күн бұрын
@@homienat3374 yes, but be very careful and use as low heat as possible. Go slow
@homienat3374
@homienat3374 7 күн бұрын
@@n1114v Thanks for replying mate all the best
@Yuriy684
@Yuriy684 3 жыл бұрын
the beauty!👍👍👍
@gledsonqueiroz7093
@gledsonqueiroz7093 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, could you give me a tip on which website I buy this roll of needles via the internet? thanks! am i brazilian and i live in brazil?
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
They are no longer made..... ebay is your best bet.
@gledsonqueiroz7093
@gledsonqueiroz7093 3 жыл бұрын
@@n1114v thanks!
@randyleazenby2351
@randyleazenby2351 3 жыл бұрын
you can also use 70 or 80% alcohol to remove the sharpie. A Healthy alternative. Old gym socks work well for a sealing iron cover too.
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
I've tried many different types of iron socks but it dosen't allow a consistent heat.
@shalomavital3648
@shalomavital3648 7 күн бұрын
I always wondered how the stripes are not peeling off when they covered with nitro fuel / oil ?
@n1114v
@n1114v 7 күн бұрын
@@shalomavital3648 once ironed down its permanent
@skipgetelman3418
@skipgetelman3418 3 жыл бұрын
awesome work but will it work on Ultracote
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@georgevprochazka5316
@georgevprochazka5316 3 жыл бұрын
WOW !
@edwardcase
@edwardcase Жыл бұрын
Quite good at covering
@homienat3374
@homienat3374 4 ай бұрын
God mate i felt every bit of that ,but i tell you thanks for vid im up against this myself in next coming days ,i dont have that tool what is best with the sqeedy🤙🤙🤙great vid
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 ай бұрын
You can also push a bunch of pins through a piece of balsa and use that to puncture the covering
@homienat3374
@homienat3374 4 ай бұрын
@@n1114v oh yes get ya on that ,were do you get that tool from just out of interest, thanks
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 ай бұрын
@@homienat3374 horizon discontinued it long ago......very hard to find
@homienat3374
@homienat3374 4 ай бұрын
@@n1114v no worries thanks for replying 🤙🤙
@Lawzy
@Lawzy Жыл бұрын
Fantastic tutorial Andy. A reference vid going forward. Wish I had found it before I did my film on film. Far too many bubbles.
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
Bubbles are very hard to avoid all together but there are quite a few techniques such as the one that I have shown that will help significantly
@JustSomeGuy38790
@JustSomeGuy38790 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do this with ultracote?
@n1114v
@n1114v 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! It would be a little bit easier because ultracote is lower temp
@JustSomeGuy38790
@JustSomeGuy38790 2 жыл бұрын
@@n1114v Alright Thanks!
@jeronimo20242
@jeronimo20242 2 жыл бұрын
engine crank at min 3:02
@PEDRORUGELES
@PEDRORUGELES 3 жыл бұрын
Very careful to cover it is better to put blue or white first?
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
It really doesn't matter..... in this case it was easier to do the blue first
@chuckelleehin1270
@chuckelleehin1270 3 жыл бұрын
Would it have been better to start with white Monocote first, then lay the blue over the white? That’s how paint is laid. Darker colors over light. No color transparency. Nice video and technic.
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
I've done it both ways and found that it really doesn't matter. I only did the blue first because of the amount of covering that I already had in stock
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn 3 жыл бұрын
Why not just use white sticker sheet?
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
An adhesive vinyl is a lot heavier and substantially thicker than just using monokote
@kenfretwell7947
@kenfretwell7947 4 жыл бұрын
Was that a burp?
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
My trademark
@IzzyL-ny9gj
@IzzyL-ny9gj Жыл бұрын
You made a video with the purpose of teaching others. It was hard to understand what you were saying with the radio, TV or what ever you want to call it playing in the background.
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
I dont listen to the radio! Next time I'll turn the tv up louder
@davidbrown2806
@davidbrown2806 3 жыл бұрын
Now I feel stupid. I once did a Chipmunk and an Extra 300 and cut out the patterns with 1/4'' overhangs, and attached it as one sheet on glass. Then covered the plane with the as if it was one sheet. Far too much work it seems. Great information.
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
I have never tried the glass method but I have heard that although it is time consuming you get the best results that way
@robertcovell2787
@robertcovell2787 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andrew, Sweet looking airplane. I have found that white nail polish is good for touching up little booboo's . Carefully applied it hides very well. I'll also use clear nail polish to seal edges although monokote is not bad as ultracote for lifting. I have a couple of glow powered planes and lifting can be a problem as you well know.
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
I put a little no heat on a Q tip and seal the sharp ends that way.
@robertcovell2787
@robertcovell2787 4 жыл бұрын
@@n1114v Now that is a new one on me. What is no heat.
@MrAeronca100
@MrAeronca100 4 жыл бұрын
And in a few days you have a nice wrinkled look, I don't care who puts that plastic wrap on it looks like Hell in the end (old school dope and fabric guy here) have had a total distaste for MonoKote since its inception in the 60's, laughed at it then and still do
@n1114v
@n1114v 4 жыл бұрын
To bad you never learned how to use it properly. My planes really don't wrinkle
@DEeMONsworld
@DEeMONsworld Жыл бұрын
always put dark over light
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
Not always true......my results speak for themselves
@DEeMONsworld
@DEeMONsworld Жыл бұрын
@@n1114v painting is one thing, using semi opaque covering another. Just a heads up
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
@@DEeMONsworld been covering for over 30 years. Some colors are very critical, white over blue is not an issue
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn
@CharlieBrown-pb9xn 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like lighter fluid would have oil in it
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
It works perfectly, never had a problem
@davidweaver4702
@davidweaver4702 4 жыл бұрын
God !!! That homemaker sounds awful. I nearly stopped watching, as I felt for the model (and you). Thanks for the instructions 😊
@openairrpastraining4756
@openairrpastraining4756 3 жыл бұрын
I love building, but seeing you punch those holes made me cringe..........oh geez...........
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
The end result makes it worth it
@beyondxtream4056
@beyondxtream4056 Жыл бұрын
You gotta be kidding . . . 3:01 . . . .
@n1114v
@n1114v Жыл бұрын
About what?
@crutchclargo
@crutchclargo 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs down. I am sure I would have gotten something from this but quite frankly I don't care to listen to your radio as you talk. Next video...turn off the radio and your point will get across much better.
@n1114v
@n1114v 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody made you watch it! I highly recommend you find other videos to watch.