Monster High is getting a reboot again because it went so well the last time.

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Жыл бұрын

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Monster High released character designs and bios for its Nickelodeon reboot. It doesn't look better than the first reboot in 2016 but for some reason Mattel is rebooting it again only six years later. Weird.
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@omniomelet1472
@omniomelet1472 Жыл бұрын
Deuce’s snakes used to be these cute little pet kinda things, but now they’re bad influences that tell him to do bad things? WAT?! The fact that Deuce’s snakes loved Cleo like Deuce did was one of my favorite part about the original. And now his snakes are like evil little demons trying to make him make bad choices. It just ruins it for me.
@celtichound9889
@celtichound9889 Жыл бұрын
That time one of snakes gave Cleo a kiss on the forehead was the cutest.
@omniomelet1472
@omniomelet1472 Жыл бұрын
@@celtichound9889 oh my god I love part
@kayshiekayshie2198
@kayshiekayshie2198 Жыл бұрын
@@celtichound9889 aweee
@karolinedemon
@karolinedemon Жыл бұрын
True they literally kissed her forehead too and he was giving them drinks by straws :(
@ivycream7228
@ivycream7228 Жыл бұрын
I know right
@lavendermarshmallowplant3229
@lavendermarshmallowplant3229 Жыл бұрын
Gosh, WHY in the world are they shying away from the goth aesthetic so much? It's not like kids now don't like that.
@stingingcake853
@stingingcake853 Жыл бұрын
FOR REAL. The whole creepy part of it was part of what made monster high stand out against other dolls like Barbie. I remember thinking they all looked super cool when I was younger.
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
Ironic- I've seen a lot of teenage girls getting back into goth stuff and yet Mattel is homogenizing Monster High (a franchise DEFINED by being an alt fashion alternative to little miss perfect Barbie) into the exact opposite
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Wasted potential since e girls are the new goth
@moistwrmonastring1017
@moistwrmonastring1017 Жыл бұрын
Goth is ironically becoming more popular!! TikTok’s fashion videos have been almost always dark clothes and loads of jewellery. Why did they pull off into bright colours? Kids don’t like that and I don’t think they ever have! No one likes being babied, and softer colours & characters are doing JUST THAT to the audience! I really think Monster High is ruined for me now. I can’t trust them anymore
@LittleDevilAkuma
@LittleDevilAkuma Жыл бұрын
@@moistwrmonastring1017 I have noticed that too. Is there a reason dark clothes are getting popular again?
@Glitch_Shift
@Glitch_Shift Жыл бұрын
My main problem is that they got rid of most of the freaky bold fashion and are replacing it with modern boring outfits that just feel out of place… Like the characters weren’t wearing modern 2010 clothes when the line released, they were wearing their own styles and outfits that really fit the characters..
@thekitkatlizard8661
@thekitkatlizard8661 Жыл бұрын
Also, I feel like each one was clearly based on a subculture, all which are still pretty relevant in teen fashion... Og Frankie felt based on (brit) punk, with the plaid and the tie and the hair. Punk is still popular, esp on tiktok, and just iconic. Og Draculora was lolita goth (actual og goth was actually pretty modern rather than victorian). Still very popular with tweens and teens. Many 12 yr olds have a basic lolita fashion oc, looking at gacha. Og Clawdeen was chic and I think kinda Glam Rock? Not as popular currently, but still plenty material to get inspiration from. Especially with Maneskin (which is Danish for moonshine) currently being a popular rock band that takes inspiration from glam rock. Og Cleo was just chic chic, plenty of Instagram models to take inspiration from. Og Lagoona looked to me like a mix of surfer beach chick and skater, her style was pretty modern but still in a cool slightly edgy way and again, done way better on tiktok etc. And Ghoulia was like this mix between emo, retro hipster and geek, honestly not as relevant styles as they were back in 2010 (though her outfit weirdly enough might be the most currently relevant out of all of them, I could see current alt girls wear exactly her fit minus the headband and with shorter boots) but I still feel like something interesting could've been done with Ghoulia had she not been erased. Maybe make her cottagecore bc her og outfit had cherry print lol, or focus more on the retro aspect. Rainbow high and especially LOL OMG dolls and other modern doll lines are nuch better with doing bold modern fashion that's actually FASHIONABLE
@nihilanth2705
@nihilanth2705 Жыл бұрын
@@thekitkatlizard8661 Frankie’s style was preppie
@FOXYLITTLEFOX
@FOXYLITTLEFOX 11 күн бұрын
And that's what made monster high unique. The reboot looks like Halloween barbie
@popsocket6885
@popsocket6885 Жыл бұрын
People who designed monster high before: "Oh! Let's add some different aesthetics to the characters that shouts out their personality! Also, it can help other kids discover their own sense of fashion!" the reboot art directors: "Just throw in pastel colors and 'fashionable' outfits. Those are what kids are into these days."
@melyqjosie
@melyqjosie Жыл бұрын
lagoona’s literally giving: “just walked out of starbucks with my unicorn frappucino now i’m boutta make a musically showing off my smiggle haul 😍💅🏻✨”
@verybigrickastleyfan001
@verybigrickastleyfan001 Жыл бұрын
Yeah…. Imagine her saying “Save the turtles” 👁👄👁
@ieatorphanchildrenfordinne6516
@ieatorphanchildrenfordinne6516 Жыл бұрын
@@verybigrickastleyfan001 if they make her do that, im gonna cry 💀
@notacoolkid1519
@notacoolkid1519 Жыл бұрын
Bruh she is the unicorn Frappuccino
@_marujin_
@_marujin_ Жыл бұрын
RIGHT💀
@Justcatc
@Justcatc Жыл бұрын
“I’m not like other girls 🤩”
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
It pains me that out of everyone, Toralei looks the closest to her original counterpart.
@_tedtheenderman_6177
@_tedtheenderman_6177 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Tbh-- I kinda don't like Toralei that much at all. But then again-- I hate most of these reboot characters
@sexybacon8311
@sexybacon8311 Жыл бұрын
even better
@yourmum1963
@yourmum1963 Жыл бұрын
Her back story isnt helping tho
@rushrock_rat1190
@rushrock_rat1190 Жыл бұрын
@@yourmum1963 What’s her backstory?
@fiszylll
@fiszylll Жыл бұрын
And deuce
@moistwrmonastring1017
@moistwrmonastring1017 Жыл бұрын
Taking away, arguably, the ONLY animated Australian character that made people remember our country existed was a MASSIVE mistake. Not only did they take away her Australian culture, but they’ve taken away the possibility for Lagoona to be Aboriginal as well, which was what many Aboriginal kids (including myself) were constantly hoping for... her redesign feels like more of a slap in the face than any of the other characters. Australia isn’t taken seriously anymore, we’re constantly mocked for an accent that’s hardly noticeable. It would’ve been really nice to have an Aussie actress play her, but I guess that was wishful thinking :(
@taylsbucko5190
@taylsbucko5190 Жыл бұрын
THIs!!! one of the biggest fumbles in my opinion for this reboot, im so upset about it
@colorbar.s
@colorbar.s Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's so upsetting :( same with Draculaura being Romanian representation. Ugh. I'm glad Abby isn't in this reboot (yet).
@moistwrmonastring1017
@moistwrmonastring1017 Жыл бұрын
@@taylsbucko5190 mhm 😞 it would’ve been refreshing to see a blak character for once
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
@colorbar.s She is still half Romanian, she is just now also half Chinese.
@Alisonsgachaverse
@Alisonsgachaverse 7 ай бұрын
​@@one-onessadhalf3393I thought she was half Taiwanese
@hailumii
@hailumii Жыл бұрын
cleo literally looks like isabela from encanto and why is lagoona a vsco girl 😭
@diane5893
@diane5893 11 күн бұрын
LMAOOOO
@cartoonking1789
@cartoonking1789 Жыл бұрын
They really don’t care about fans in ANY fandom.
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
That isn't always true
@cartoonking1789
@cartoonking1789 Жыл бұрын
@@animezilla4486 it isn't always true but it is true often enough.
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
@@cartoonking1789 good point especially in these modern times
@thefirstofthelastones8952
@thefirstofthelastones8952 Жыл бұрын
Not only that but some creators would silence those that criticize their work... That just shows that not only can they handle criticism but also shows them how pathetic they are.
@rosesrose4364
@rosesrose4364 Жыл бұрын
I really don't get that isn't their a whole saying of 'give the people what they want' why do companies never follow it
@riotkitty
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
Clawdeen is the one that’s the most bastardized in my opinion. She was the coolest one to me as a kid and now she looks like the dorky awkward new kid.
@coffintears5821
@coffintears5821 Жыл бұрын
Which should be reserved for frankie.
@riotkitty
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
@@coffintears5821 It should be. I don't know why with this reboot they're giving Clawdeen Frankie's role when she was the one with all the confidence and sass as a monster.
@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132
@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 Жыл бұрын
She also looks like a nerd...which is ghoulia's character. They just hate that poor zombie, huh?
@coffintears5821
@coffintears5821 Жыл бұрын
@@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 oh God yeah. Ghoulia gets taken out of every single reboot it seems like.
@Morgan-gc4zm
@Morgan-gc4zm Жыл бұрын
Yes she's one of the most confident ghoul with a classy, edgy style and the reboot is not giving any of that
@averymartin1327
@averymartin1327 Жыл бұрын
They're making them so watered down and way too clean cut looking when just about everyone loved them for their original spookiness. That's why I liked them as a kid, they could be both "creepy" yet still very fashionable and usually nice good people.
@ariarrivederci6254
@ariarrivederci6254 Жыл бұрын
So im beginning to see a pattern... when people or whatever say theyre going to "reboot" something That basically means "I'm gonna take everything you loved and thought was cool and make it boring and cringe"
@hibikiholmes2867
@hibikiholmes2867 Жыл бұрын
Heath looking like he got fashion advice from the CEO of Hot Wheels lol
@stingingcake853
@stingingcake853 Жыл бұрын
LOL
@toastysweaters5692
@toastysweaters5692 Жыл бұрын
He looks like a Rice Krispy elf from hell
@aquastartv1895
@aquastartv1895 Жыл бұрын
Definitely.
@darklyberry
@darklyberry Жыл бұрын
God I hate his new design he just looks so dumb
@yumeg449
@yumeg449 Жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT HE LOOKED LIKE A CAR TOO
@liljenborg2517
@liljenborg2517 Жыл бұрын
They looked at "Descendants" and thought, "We can do that, too." I thought not wanting to be seen a Descendants knockoff was the reason Mattel canceled the Ever After High series that paralleled Monster High. And the writing for their stories was far, far better than Descendants.
@mjtannertwins
@mjtannertwins Жыл бұрын
Ever After High came out before Descendants. Mattel made dolls for Disney Princesses but Disney was offended by the Ever After High line so they made Descendants as an answer to it and went to another company to make their princess dolls.
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
Does Mattel need to be reminded that they started the trend with Monster High in the first place? Even Descendants was following MH and EAH. Now Mattel is following the followers
@kittieheart
@kittieheart Жыл бұрын
eah being cancelled was brutal. however if they bring it back they probably will change the loved art style and a basic plot line because that’s what they do with reboots lol
@jocelynecupcake
@jocelynecupcake Жыл бұрын
Um, Ever After High came out way before Decedents. Disney made a knock off of Ever After High! Disney might be the biggest movie company and corporation in the world, but they make knock offs too.
@meizuo
@meizuo Жыл бұрын
ever after high AND monster high is both made by mattel they trying to copy the show that made a terrible knockoff of their own series?
@alexandra_symphony
@alexandra_symphony Жыл бұрын
This made me tear up... First Barbie, then mlp, then monster high... What happened to mattel. It's like they purposefully WANTED to ruin the series a lot of hold dear to our hearts. This is soooo sad, I can't- 😭
@Cherry-ob7hx
@Cherry-ob7hx Жыл бұрын
You know mlp had many generations right? it was expected to have a new generation when 4 ends and they didn't reboot the character so Is different
@NightfrostDraws1209
@NightfrostDraws1209 Жыл бұрын
@@Cherry-ob7hx Also, MLP is Hasbro, not Mattel...
@vodakabunno6146
@vodakabunno6146 Жыл бұрын
@@Cherry-ob7hx pretty sure they meant the toys, i have a couple gen 4 toys and you can see their molds be drastically different, and really weird looking aside from the translucent Princess Luna doll because she actually looked pretty
@istoleyourjams270
@istoleyourjams270 Жыл бұрын
@@Cherry-ob7hx The thing with this generation and previous generations is that gen5 is connected to gen4. No other generation was connected to the previous one except this one...Twillight also appeared in gen5 and she's uhh- well she isn't looking her best (probably because its hard to translate 2d to 3d and her colors are much more saturated).
@Cherry-ob7hx
@Cherry-ob7hx Жыл бұрын
@@istoleyourjams270 Yeah, she doesn't look really good, but the other og characters look cool
@Lucidly_cremated
@Lucidly_cremated Жыл бұрын
Clawdeen was already a werewolf which as I know it already means- half wolf/ half human… so now she’s 3/4 human?
@desteneemsp2389
@desteneemsp2389 Ай бұрын
Nah werewolves of Monster high work differently. It's more like their a wolf monster and when their cubs they look like full wolves and when they get older they have kind of a human appearance like human like legs and arms but still have more wolf features but their not half human. Same with werecats
@TheCobwebQueen
@TheCobwebQueen Жыл бұрын
They just can’t let good things RIP because they’re taking advantage of our nostalgia
@cartoonking1789
@cartoonking1789 Жыл бұрын
While perfectly willing to call us every name under the Sun if we express that we don’t like certain things about it because they want our money from the nostalgia and NOTHING else.
@Raximus3000
@Raximus3000 Жыл бұрын
You can blame the Cryptkeeper for blowing up the original school, lol.
@alejandrocervantes3624
@alejandrocervantes3624 Жыл бұрын
Ha! 🤖🐔
@Kyuushi94
@Kyuushi94 Жыл бұрын
They can only take advantage of what you give them.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
At least the characters were redesigned for this. Still awkward to see a third reboot though.
@dreamiinotdream730
@dreamiinotdream730 Жыл бұрын
I hate hate HATE how Clawdeen is now this awkward new kid nerd when she was one of the sassiest and confident of the bunch. I hope they didn’t change it because it played too much into the “diva black girl” stereotype. Ugh
@remedy2174
@remedy2174 Жыл бұрын
I loved her confidence. She was an inspiration to many :(
@smile-ic6kk
@smile-ic6kk Жыл бұрын
@@remedy2174 yeah for me at least it was such an inspiration as a kid because of her dream to become a fashion designer
@Black.Girl_Melanin519
@Black.Girl_Melanin519 Жыл бұрын
@@remedy2174 ikr she was always my fav
@kayiscrispy
@kayiscrispy Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised. They’ve done everything else in their power to be as woke as possible. I reckon they only made her the main character because she’s black coded, to please the masses Edit: how did this get 15 likes with a typo in it ffs
@crazygamer_1082
@crazygamer_1082 Жыл бұрын
@@kayiscrispy Hardly though. 😂 I mean they made her light skin, gave her a generic boring backstory with even more boring personality. Added bonus points that they changed her sexuality and made her steal Cleo’s BF 😒 If they wanted to be “cute and quirky” and have a black (light-skinned) girl as the main character. Just put her sister in there. NOW that would’ve been interesting. Instead they retconned every last character and made them look horrid
@ninaloveray
@ninaloveray Жыл бұрын
Honestly I’m just happy Ever After High won’t be coming back at this point. The franchise was just right and wondrous like it was. So was Monster High. They were drop dead gorgeous and perfectly imperfect. They should have let them just Rest In Peace and move on from MH.
@britkitt4084
@britkitt4084 Жыл бұрын
Lagoona is now an influencer, Frankie is now a they and a them, and the headmistress has been race swapped. So basically monster high sold its soul to this new generation. smh
@privspiralgalaxy
@privspiralgalaxy Жыл бұрын
Ong
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
Why is Frankie being non binary a problem for you?
@cakefrosting6451
@cakefrosting6451 Жыл бұрын
I thought Lagoona looked like a babyfied Ariana Grande, but now I can’t unsee the Jojo Siwa resemblance. Literally many franchise’s reboots are making the characters look more child-like that it looks a little unsettling.
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
Because apparently the execs in charge of these hare-brained rehashes are convinced that kids can’t relate to a character unless they look and/or act like them which is dumb, honestly. Kids want to be Batman; they don’t want to be Robin unless he’s Nightwing. Kids want to be Optimus Prime; they don’t want to be Wheelie or Energon Ironhide. Kids wanna be He-Man or She-Ra, not Loo-Kee or Orko.
@sailorduck2585
@sailorduck2585 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion I dislike this more then the 2016 reboot
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
@@sailorduck2585 Well, at least 2016 MH still felt somewhat like the original, just in a more juvenile format. This just feels like Mattel disregarding the original for the sake of woke brownie points
@alexandra_symphony
@alexandra_symphony Жыл бұрын
AGREED. And they ruined Barbie and mlp too.
@alexandra_symphony
@alexandra_symphony Жыл бұрын
@@sailorduck2585 yeah. I personally loved the 2016 reboot too. The characters were adorable, the story was actually canon. This? EW.
@crazygamer_1082
@crazygamer_1082 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you! I hate when they “reboot” characters. Just make new ones. That way we won’t compare the two so heavily. We might make fun of the fashion but everything else is based on how good the writing is. I just can’t get into the new movie and stuff. I might watch the show if I have time. But you won’t catch me tripping over myself to see it 😂
@diivine.
@diivine. Жыл бұрын
Yeah fr they can be the same species as the old ones and don't make the plot boring💀
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
A third reboot is questionable enough without lazily repeating the same characters.
@arigato4550
@arigato4550 Жыл бұрын
yup bc that went so well last reboot with iconic memorable characters such as Ari Hauntington and Raythe
@multifandom5942
@multifandom5942 Жыл бұрын
Same exactly. I will watch it whenever i think of it but I'm not exciting or anything
@HadiaExists
@HadiaExists Жыл бұрын
Fr
@asciiworm7857
@asciiworm7857 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they had to swap headmistress blood goods race. Like, I know that modern media needs more diverse representation, but doing that to an already established character instead of bringing in more characters with diversity just feels cheap.
@buggy-boy
@buggy-boy Жыл бұрын
yeah it feels kind of wrong in a way... i just don't know why they'd do that
@kayiscrispy
@kayiscrispy Жыл бұрын
couldn’t they have just brought in some of the og black coded characters? Clawdeen’s siblings etc? Robecca??
@kayiscrispy
@kayiscrispy Жыл бұрын
And there were a lot of monsters with darker skin/fur tones than could be rebooted well using POC (Catty Noir would look AMAZING played by a deep black skinned girl!!)
@Made_on_marzzz
@Made_on_marzzz Жыл бұрын
@@kayiscrispy love that idea with catty noir !!!!
@stuffwithsoph8264
@stuffwithsoph8264 Жыл бұрын
I don't really care but Monster High had black coded characters already, why not give them the spotlight and develop them? Feels weird.
@DIVINEADVENTURER
@DIVINEADVENTURER Жыл бұрын
As I remember, the original Monster High had backlashed from soccer moms and other parents who didn't like the striking fashions of the original designs. This is the reason why it had a reboot. Now, there's a another reboot...soooooo....who to blame?
@SsLoage
@SsLoage Жыл бұрын
FR😭 I don't understand what was wrong with it
@adorbsdrama2752
@adorbsdrama2752 Жыл бұрын
What I always found funny about those parents, is that my mom LOVED Monster High, specially Draculaura (she's pink, that's her reason). Even now she will say "you should do x and x thing like the Monster High characters", and back then the most common one was "wouldn't you prefer more girly stuff? Like the pink one?". The only reason that stopped me from getting more into the show was money, and now that I have some...the show that the two of us liked is nothing but a memory. I wish they could just stop with these reboots...
@berserkagain7976
@berserkagain7976 Жыл бұрын
unfortunately I think they're doing it to just make money and cut corners where they can that includes cheap reboots cheap designs cheap dolls and cheap live actions and what makes it worse is they release OG Dolls every once in a blue moon but triple or quadruple the price so they can suck the money out of OG fans well making money off of their cheap knockoff dolls at the same time it's really sad to see what Monster High has become and it's honestly disgusting
@chromicapop4595
@chromicapop4595 Жыл бұрын
Yeah fr also the pre reboot universe had decent clothing like it had more unique fashion and it went visually better😅
@natto4now
@natto4now Жыл бұрын
Fun fact While Frankenstein is a free use character in the sense of copyright, the whole neck bolts/sides of the head bolts is copyrighted by universal, same for the color of their skin being green, that's why most Frankensteins outside of universal properties tend to have Grey skin and no bolts But then again that's what my art teacher told me 3 years ago
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
That is interesting
@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627
@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 Жыл бұрын
Wait, if that's the case, how did Monster High get access to that on Frankie the first time?
@natto4now
@natto4now Жыл бұрын
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 well I'm guessing cause nick is 9wned by paramount which is part of comacon so it's part of universal or tied to, but at the same time I remember monster high used to air on cartoon network which is WB so idk
@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627
@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 Жыл бұрын
@@natto4now Imma be frank, this all makes very little sense
@natto4now
@natto4now Жыл бұрын
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 yeah copyright tends to be that way
@subcaratothemoon1982
@subcaratothemoon1982 Жыл бұрын
HOW...MANY...REBOOTS...DO...WE... FREAKING....NEED?! 😡😵‍💫 my lord, the original was good enough (if not great) with all the uniqueness, the characters, etc. Just bring that back, PLEASE 🥺
@Ryuuluver5158
@Ryuuluver5158 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@Mayt5987
@Mayt5987 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I don’t think they can do that especially with Frankie because they aren’t patterning with unverisal which as rights to frankstien
@Black.Girl_Melanin519
@Black.Girl_Melanin519 Жыл бұрын
And it taught us life lessons
@tecegatlin1764
@tecegatlin1764 Жыл бұрын
Got damn I feel your pain I'm glad I'm not the only one.
@justyes4516
@justyes4516 Жыл бұрын
@@Mayt5987 then why are selling creeproduction??
@trylynarie3327
@trylynarie3327 Жыл бұрын
Monster High was what sparked my interest for alternate fashion. The entire vibe of monster High was "this is who we are take it or leave it" and in a world where everyone is trying to look like perfect orange clones of eachother this message is needed more than ever rather than g3 desperate to fit in.
@cherrykaguraowo6447
@cherrykaguraowo6447 Жыл бұрын
In my own opinion, if they really wanted to cater to a new audience or a new generation a new cast of character would have been a good choice. 1. it wouldn't degrade the originals and wouldn't taint their legacy 2. new character meaning new people to interact with and new merchandise 3. old fans wouldn't have a reason to bash the new designs in favor of the old generation. I get that we are not the core demographic they are after, but constantly re-using character names and hoping it would make the older and newer fans happy is not the best option for this doll line.
@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132
@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 Жыл бұрын
I know it's a small detail in the scale of things, but why is Lagoona no longer blue? Ironically she has the best design here as it's not bad, but it's not Lagoona at all. Speaking of skin tones, why is Deuce green here, when all of the characters seems to be based off of the live action reboot designs? Isn't that gonna confuse people? Also I really do not know why they keep pushing Health. He's a fun character but not on the same level as the other classic characters here. I guess I should be glad they haven't touched Spectra, or Operetta or the other classics.
@stingingcake853
@stingingcake853 Жыл бұрын
yeah, I feel like heath's only interesting parts were his dynamics with Abby. Or at least, the only parts with him I remember are his intereactions with Abby.
@fredericksaxton9782
@fredericksaxton9782 Жыл бұрын
Her and Clawdeen have the worst designs in this reboot. That is not a good design at all. If it wasn't Lagoona, maybe, but since this is Lagoona we're talking about, it's just bad all around. Being a "save the turtles" lookin @ss is NOT good look for her-
@crystalxxx_xplays28blogs98
@crystalxxx_xplays28blogs98 Жыл бұрын
Because they don't have the other monster high characters anymore only heath is left 💀👍, I think their licensing or smthng expired and so all they got is heath
@darklyberry
@darklyberry Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they never touched Spectra and Operetta as well because they're my personal favorites. Edit: they touched Spectra, I feel sick.
@wilsonweiseng6485
@wilsonweiseng6485 Жыл бұрын
@@stingingcake853 Heath used to be "fire" and "funny guy", now he's just "guy constantly on fire"
@smugneru2113
@smugneru2113 Жыл бұрын
Claudine looks like a librarian from New York oh sorry Boo York in her early 20's
@user-ub9mm4vr5k
@user-ub9mm4vr5k Жыл бұрын
Yes, I think that in this reboot they were drawing inspiration for Clawdeen from her older sister Clawdia
@TheOtakuNinja69
@TheOtakuNinja69 11 ай бұрын
I like the older Monster High generations. I like the goth / punk aesthetics that the characters had. It’s like an opposite version of a Barbie.
@pluto452
@pluto452 Жыл бұрын
Something that everyone seems to miss about Frankie is the copyright. Universal copyrighted the green skin and bolts. Since these new dolls are nickelodeon, Frankie can no longer have those things.
@CoolG97
@CoolG97 Жыл бұрын
1:40 This design wouldn't be too bad if it was one of Clawdeen's MANY siblings or even a cousin.
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
YES. I vote we rework her into Clawdeen's tomboy mechanic cousin Clawdella from Scarizona.
@CoolG97
@CoolG97 Жыл бұрын
@@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho SECOND! Maybe fix the glasses (Purple frames, the gold/brown blends into the fur). I could see her as a little sister character for Howleen to bounce off without being a repeat of the Clawdeen/Howleen dynamic.
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
It would fit Clawdia since she was the confident nerd sister
@CoolG97
@CoolG97 Жыл бұрын
@@Saltedroastedcaramel I don't know. The outfit and hair lean more tomboy (or awkward freshman). Clawdia had a more "put together" style.
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
Interesting idea, given that this is a new take on previous characters and you wouldn’t expect Clawdeen so be the exact same as she used to be in a reboot of the franchise
@aprilvaiarella435
@aprilvaiarella435 Жыл бұрын
These would fine if they were all new characters. Clawdeen is the worst looking of the bunch. Lagoona looks less and less like a fish the more they reboot her. They could literally stick a horn on her forehead and call her a unicorn and it would make more sense for that design. I don't like Draculaura's half and half hair. I miss the streaks, they were better looking with those colors. Everyone else is just meh. Again, better off making them all new characters.
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
But the question is will people especially the fans will give new characters a chance if they were created
@aprilvaiarella435
@aprilvaiarella435 Жыл бұрын
@@animezilla4486 It would depend on a lot of smaller factors honestly. Next generation characters have worked for some series in the past and MH fans are pretty used to new characters being introduced to them. They made a bunch of new characters every doll line and movie. Having some of the older characters as teachers, parents or mentors would help. Giving the new characters fun personalities and broad relatability instead of one dimensional sock puppets would make it easier for people to accept them. But Mattel isn't going to that no matter if they use new or old characters, so may as well make them new. As for selling dolls, as long as they look good and have good quality, doll collectors will buy them. That's all there is to that part of the equation. The point is, fans of a thing don't want to see the characters they love arbitrarily changed into someone unrecognizable to them. Which is what is happening here. Clawdeen is a teenaged fashionista werewolf, not a half human dork who dresses like a five year old and doesn't know how to brush her own hair.
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
@@aprilvaiarella435 you make a good point there
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
@@aprilvaiarella435 Seems like they confused Clawdeen with her older sister Clawdia, who is the nerd of the family
@Cherry-ob7hx
@Cherry-ob7hx Жыл бұрын
Who knows maybe if this was a new show with new characters it would be actually good
@dejajade6726
@dejajade6726 Жыл бұрын
I wish they would just make an animated series that will appeal to tweens, teens, young adults and adults, in terms of character design and writing. Shows like Young Justice/Teen Titans, Avatar/Legend of Korra, Star Wars Rebels/Clone Wars, the Dragon Prince, She-Ra & PoP, Voltron, and Trollhunters all did this. The writing and the character designs were neither too childish or too mature to exclude anyone. It was that sweet spot that's totally possible, which is why it's so frustrating to see MH limit their own potential.
@ButterflyColors
@ButterflyColors Жыл бұрын
What they did to Laguna reminds me a lot of what they did to Howleen when higher up though “orange isn’t a girly enough color, girls won’t like it, change it” and then they gave her pink hair.
@kingagrabowska9366
@kingagrabowska9366 Жыл бұрын
Just continue with the old stuff. It's still very liked and popular. And if they want something new just create new characters. They basically did that just change the names. If it's supposed to be a ''new generation'' why not take from the idea of the hybrid. Son of Cleo and Duse. Draculaura's and Clowde's kids, half vampires half werewolves. Make Todoroki character, half fire half ice. Why race swap? Just say it's a cousin or just another member of the same species.
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
I always wonder why some studios don't want to make new characters I think it's because they don't want to take a risk introducing new characters that the audience will not give them a chance because there are some people in the fandom that are too stubborn to give new characters at least a look at
@maggiesheartlove2734
@maggiesheartlove2734 Жыл бұрын
@@animezilla4486 That could be it. Big companies are taking less and less risks now a days. As much as I HATE to admit it, I cam somewhat relate. I work hard on my original works but its usually my familiar fanworks that get more attention. But as the saying goes: no risks, no reward.
@lilchristuten7568
@lilchristuten7568 Жыл бұрын
They don't have the same team making it so regardless the project would end up just bad. They also don't have any original ideas in house and they aren't interested in accepting them from outside due to control issues.
@alexandra_symphony
@alexandra_symphony Жыл бұрын
Yeah. That's a sensible idea. 👍🏻
@briannapummel7855
@briannapummel7855 Жыл бұрын
a lot of the reason why they just reuse old names and appearances for seemingly new characters is actually due to the copyright process. its a lot easier to rewrite a character you already have the copyright use for than to make a new character and have to go through the copyright process in EVERY country you sell the line in. it takes a lot of time and money and its just easier
@cartoonking1789
@cartoonking1789 Жыл бұрын
I think making Frankie “they/them” is just trend chasing.
@maggiesheartlove2734
@maggiesheartlove2734 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this whole thing feels like a trend. And like all trends, it will inevitably dwindle and people will look back and think how lame it was. Like being a hippie, or a goth.
@bunnyconcubus8468
@bunnyconcubus8468 Жыл бұрын
It's a sad day when executives think it's smart to make people that use they/them/non-binary/GNC characters for the sole purpose of chasing a fancy trend just cause we are getting more attention now adays.
@riotkitty
@riotkitty Жыл бұрын
It is. I don’t see it as anything other than a trend at this point.
@alejandrocervantes3624
@alejandrocervantes3624 Жыл бұрын
The E-girlification of the whole thing Is trend chasing 🧚🏻‍♀️👩🏼‍🎤🧜🏾‍♀️👽
@thefunnychiptuneman
@thefunnychiptuneman Жыл бұрын
i know and it needs to stop
@cheesemochii651
@cheesemochii651 Жыл бұрын
Cleo and Heath's design hurts me on a personal level-
@thebuilder5271
@thebuilder5271 Жыл бұрын
I actually like Cleo’s design since it does look more ancient Egyptian haha. I can’t believe what they did to Lagoona though 😭
@cherrydreampalladin9784
@cherrydreampalladin9784 Жыл бұрын
For the outfits and styling I can still justify them as wanting to appeal to a new generation that follows the fashion trends on social media rather than wanting to reinvent the wheel. The colors, however, are inexcusable: Deuce has too much green, Lagona BLUE isn't blue anymore and between the skin and sweater has too much pink going on, Draculaura could have had more black and white because the pink on the skirt almost matches the skintone but she is the most successful reboot design, Cleo now looks like her sister because now blue is her main color(again too much, could have been balanced with more gold) and Frankie I agree should be green even if the og design used a lot of blues. Heath's color pallette is an eyesore. Also I'm sad that we have no Abbey since she was my fave :(
@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132
@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 Жыл бұрын
Abby appeared briefly in the trailer...but she's nothing like herself, so maybe it's for the best you didn't notice lol
@cherrydreampalladin9784
@cherrydreampalladin9784 Жыл бұрын
@@thisusernameisalreadytaken5132 You know what, yeah I'm going to stay ignorant and not find out how she looks like now🙈
@Chm388
@Chm388 Жыл бұрын
the only excusable one here is frankie as it is a copyright issue. Monster High is no longer partnered with the company that owns the rights to the movie design of Frankenstein's monster so they now have to comply with some rules about making Frankenstein monster inspired characters. the character cannot be green, cannot have the neck bolts, and cannot have a scar across the forehead.
@leonardo.diCATio
@leonardo.diCATio Жыл бұрын
Even with the fashion, they can get more creative than that. It looks like they got each piece for 3 dollars at Walmart. Monster High was always about the fashion, it's sad to see them drop the ball so badly.
@cherrydreampalladin9784
@cherrydreampalladin9784 Жыл бұрын
@@Chm388 Yeah I just saw some comments talking about the copy right issue that they have with Frankie. I feel they could have used a greener shade of blue but I would totally get it if they didn't want to risk it
@TaoScribble
@TaoScribble Жыл бұрын
Clawdeen looks like an aging librarian.
@natsukifan8736
@natsukifan8736 Жыл бұрын
If I'm not wrong why by example Frankie doesn't have the bolts on her neck and more Frankenstein characteristics is because they lost the rights to the creature (and many others) and thus can't use anything that is obviously from the monster they're based on. So yeah that's why they look so iffy and human like
@tashibalampkin8555
@tashibalampkin8555 Жыл бұрын
Monster high fans: "Will we ever know peace?!"
@peterkrochmalni673
@peterkrochmalni673 Жыл бұрын
According to Monster High lore isn’t Headmistress Bloodgood the daughter of the Headless Horseman from the Legend of Sleepy Hollow who was, according to legend, a Hessian soldier aka a German during the American Revolutionary War yet they cast a black woman to play the daughter of a 1776 German?
@dreamiinotdream730
@dreamiinotdream730 Жыл бұрын
Gotta get them inclusivity points at ALL COSTS
@kellyawansilabo9035
@kellyawansilabo9035 Жыл бұрын
Im not a big fan of these endless reboots, at first. But I’d just like to say that it’s fiction, fantasy fiction and it doesn’t always fit with the og stories. For example, in the MH Great Scarrier Reef, character Kala Mer’ri’s introduced as the daughter of the Kraken, a legendary monster coming from Scandinavian folklore… while the plot is supposedly takin place near Australia ("great scarrier reef" being an analogue of the Great Barrier Reef). I agree with you on the part of superficiality there’s in over-representation of inclusivity. Just thought maybe it wasn’t the most adequate example.
@wibblestwooble
@wibblestwooble Жыл бұрын
Plus she’s pasty white in her og design.
@librarianrose4472
@librarianrose4472 Жыл бұрын
@@wibblestwooble having your head detached from u would do that
@serenitysubs933
@serenitysubs933 Жыл бұрын
@@dreamiinotdream730 we didn't even ask for this😭😭😭 and monster high already had great representatiom
@stevensteviepryde5888
@stevensteviepryde5888 Жыл бұрын
I just don't understand the point of making a reboot that isn't for the pre-existing fanbase. They make so much changes where it might as well be its own thing and they don't even cash in on the nostalgia that much. It's just lazy. That's not to say you shouldn't make any changes in a reboot, in fact that would get stale fast and arguably is even more lazy, but change just for the sake of change doesn't improve your quality.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
Having a third reboot is questionable enough without keeping the characters the same. Of course, I just do not see how changing greatly would be lazy. You yourself admitted keeping things the same would have been lazier. Besides, it is the third reboot, so I think they could not get away with keeping things the same, or at least very similar.
@stevensteviepryde5888
@stevensteviepryde5888 Жыл бұрын
@@Bezaliel13 I think changing everything and using the same IP is lazy because by that point you might as well make a new property.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
@@stevensteviepryde5888 I have to argue the laziness there is not in making changes, only in continuing the franchise.
@berserkagain7976
@berserkagain7976 Жыл бұрын
honestly I think they're 100% doing it just to make more money by making cheaper dolls cheaper animation cheap live actions and overall just trying to cut Corners to save money and make more money. what makes it worse is they do release OG Dolls every once in a blue moon but they nearly triple the price so they can make even more money there by draining OG fans it's really sad and disgusting to see what Monster High has become.
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Жыл бұрын
@@berserkagain7976 How does that relate to "make so much changes where it might as well be its own thing and they don't even cash in on the nostalgia that much?" *I am dead serious in saying that does not really make sense.* Maybe if you had said they did not want this _competing with their "triple the price" OG dolls,_ but shouldn't the completely changed redesigns go directly against your tangent on "overall just trying to cut Corners to save money" by most likely needing new molds. *On the dark side, I am sure you **_could_** agree on the conspiracy I just came up with.* Probably could make a huge rant on "they changed everything so they could keep triple charging on their cashcow OG," right? But for real, your comment did not make sense on its own. Well, the movie looks super cheap, but the toys still would be different, possibly cheaper made but still different.
@SirGoreArtistAlt
@SirGoreArtistAlt 10 ай бұрын
Clawdeen physically hurts me so bad she was actually such a girlboss.
@6ShadowNevermore9
@6ShadowNevermore9 Жыл бұрын
Lagoona looks as if Gigi forgot to undo the wish of 13 wishes, in fact prob a second wish to enhance the 1st 💀
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
For the reboot to be this diverse, it feels less diverse. This is why I can't stand the diversity and inclusion crap. Feels artificial. If this was a different doll franchise, then I wouldn't have a complaint. But when it's an existing property it's less authentic.
@beans6765
@beans6765 Жыл бұрын
What annoys me is that Monster High's whole thing was about being inclusive, you'll be accepted no matter what you look or where you come from. They've made it feel so forced just to get boy points...just feels so soulless.
@nemelysia
@nemelysia Жыл бұрын
Agree to both of these comments. Monster high was naturally inclusive of race, gender, and sexuality. It wasn't forced, it just was. The subtly of it was what made it so good. Because you got the message, you understood. Being individual with your own tastes and your own style was accepted and natural. But now it's forced, it's hollow, there's no genuine message or feeling,.it's strictly for the purpose of shoving in your face saying "hey look we are being inclusive too! See!?" Like they need to stop. Hollywood ruins everything good. Strong female leads being Mary sues these days and have no development at all, and it's so forced. Then not to mention the never ending race swapping of already years passed well established characters, sexuality, all of it. It's just... sickening at this point. Everything is just so forced these days and no one in charge of these things actually cares about quality content or original ideas. They don't know how.to come up with new plots and stories so they take well loved ideas of past, "reboot" them, and shit all over them and original fans all for the sake of greed. They still haven't seemed to learn their lesson that doing this crap actually causes them to lose money in the end, not gain. Ugh. Sorry, rant over
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Жыл бұрын
This whole thread is weird 💀. Increasing representation and diversity is never a bad thing. The problem is that execs don’t do it well because of preconceived biases (hence the need for diff POVs), and they can never go as far as they need to because you’ll have people like the above commenters crying foul about ever character and design change as some sort of agenda when it’s completely innocuous and/or mot giving these characters the proper chance cuz they’re holding on too tightly to their nostalgia
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
@@LP-ct9nk There's nothing diverse or representational about this. It's manufactured crap. Monster High was diverse in it's own way in the original. Now it's cookie cutter quota check list to keep people like you happy for like 5 seconds.
@eggmansexwife
@eggmansexwife Жыл бұрын
@@Saltedroastedcaramel right.
@qattieg7869
@qattieg7869 Жыл бұрын
They all look like budget dolls! Or those cheap knock off bootlegged dolls people would get from the dollar store. Clawdeen HAD a story she was this CONFIDENT stylish sporty slightly tomboyish girl...who was SUPER nervous talking to guys. She would rather book it then talk to a guy she thought was cute. I thought that was super cute but that would be an interesting story to that. Why get rid of that actually HAVE that be a challenge for her not this Oh she is a human crap...cuz I am pretty sure they once said Draculaura was ADOPTED in the orginal run wouldn't THAT be a story to talk about. Hell DEVELOPE more guy characters and revamp the designs not water them down. No one wants a watered down fashion doll it will never sell. Bring back the guys from the movies the cute zombie...unicorn, the purple hulk guy....oh the super sweet Jekyll and Hyde guy. I wanted the original series to give each girl a guy that would be an interesting pair for them that could join them on adventures as well as challenge them Duce and Cleo both challenged each other and fought for each other that was a healthy couple. Give adventure meaning...monster High was loved not for the design alone but because the characters were realistically likeable. There is always a group of friends like that who are very different but they are all so close and I respected that. The reboots make them sound hallow, shallow, boring, unrealistic boardering on generic and unrelatable. Lastly they had diversity 🙄 all those international monsters weren't a problem the people who point it out have the damn problem! I loved seeing that come naturally the designs and personality made them distinctive as for their accents matched their nationality. They are are so much wanting this to work instead of LOOKING at what MADE it work!
@sailorduck2585
@sailorduck2585 Жыл бұрын
Give it 1 year will be cancelled
@qattieg7869
@qattieg7869 Жыл бұрын
@@sailorduck2585 I know right! But that is ridiculous why waste money a guaranteed failure when the fans are making suggestions...designing cool monsters etc and they would rather fail countless times then getting back to that.
@isabelbelem9062
@isabelbelem9062 Жыл бұрын
Excuse me, tomboyish? Where? Girl was fashionista, lagoona was the tomboy one and it wasnt even that much to be honest
@qattieg7869
@qattieg7869 Жыл бұрын
@@isabelbelem9062 Hmmm maybe more sport 🤔 either way I will never deny they were all iconic and fashionable !
@Black.Girl_Melanin519
@Black.Girl_Melanin519 Жыл бұрын
@@sailorduck2585 i hope so bc this is awful, the shows now a days ain't nothing like they use to he
@victoriawelch307
@victoriawelch307 Жыл бұрын
My heart breaks for this I remember as a kid when they first came out. They inspired my fashion and to stand up to my bullies and be me. Now I barely recognize it and it seem more like a money grab to get younger kids to watch it without having any of the good original meaning and story bed it and all the monsters.
@angelic6melody309
@angelic6melody309 Жыл бұрын
I really wish they just revived the 2010-2015 monster high
@jayceehampton8031
@jayceehampton8031 Жыл бұрын
I love that you took this time to review their designs, as I am not a big fan of either reboot. The developers should have gone in other directions, like what their lives are like during their college years.
@kaydencerichey6800
@kaydencerichey6800 Жыл бұрын
well played
@Zentron
@Zentron Жыл бұрын
They need to end the line if this is what they're going to be doing to it. At this point they're only devaluing it further than they did the last time!
@coffintears5821
@coffintears5821 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think this franchise is gonna last.
@tiamystic
@tiamystic Жыл бұрын
It’s looks more appealing to Karens now. And I thought the 2016 reboot was Karen-friendly…
@foofung9961
@foofung9961 Жыл бұрын
@@tiamystic this is worse than the 2016 reboot 😭😭 I didn’t know it was possible
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
@tiamystic Really doubt that the Karen’s are going to like all the queerness in Gen 3 but aight
@tashibalampkin8555
@tashibalampkin8555 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why they doing this. Like, the Monster High KZfaq channel is still posing content with the original Monster High cast. They know people still love the original cast do why are they pulling this stunt.
@madfox2208
@madfox2208 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Deuce the creators said that was suppose to be revealed that he was actually half human but the show ended before they had the opportunity.
@FancyGrlOfficial
@FancyGrlOfficial Жыл бұрын
Wait, aren't werewolves already half-human-half-wolf? So if Clawdeen is part werewolf (AKA 50% wolf, 50% human) and part human does that mean she's, like, 25% wolf? And about Clawfeen's glasses. I don't mind her having glasses (well, if the frames looked fitting for her character) in fact, I like the idea of a bold, fierce character like her having them, it just seems counterproductive to give the confident girl glasses while dialing back on her confidence and making her more geeky and awkward. Also, Toralie Stripe sounds like a knock-off Moanica D'kay from the first garbage reboot.
@thekitkatlizard8661
@thekitkatlizard8661 Жыл бұрын
I love 'bad bitch with glasses' sm, it's such a shame that in most cases glasses = nerd in media
@14bis42
@14bis42 Жыл бұрын
And I bet the voice "actors" were chosen by their skin color and Not for the voice performance ... its a weird world...
@thefunnychiptuneman
@thefunnychiptuneman Жыл бұрын
that how any american project is done now i hate it i miss when voice range was the norm not the exception
@fmc291
@fmc291 Жыл бұрын
Yep. Thought the same thing. Because now a fictional cartoon has to be voiced by someone of the race race, gender, sexuality and identity. Good thing Phil Lamar made his money with Samurai Jack when he did.
@cartoonking1789
@cartoonking1789 Жыл бұрын
Same with behind the scenes, doesn't matter if you got talent just if you fit in a certain box based on your sexuality, race or gender.
@soulsurfer7702
@soulsurfer7702 Жыл бұрын
@@cartoonking1789 it’s getting annoying that if the voice actor is non binary lesbian etc than the character now changes. I thought it was the monster high movie of why Frankie is now non binary but it was because they changed it in the reboot.
@parisknight1840
@parisknight1840 Жыл бұрын
Lol which is ironically racist, for some reason people try so hard to be racist that they just ended doing shit that’s fucking racist.
@udontknowme3567
@udontknowme3567 Жыл бұрын
My childhood with Monster High was a vibe now me coming back to this sh- hurts me like girlie Frankie stein be looking like a blue dried up noodle 💀
@harryglob7117
@harryglob7117 Жыл бұрын
They better not replace lagoona’s love interest, Gil, with someone else because they are one of the best pairs in my opinion.
@harlannguyen4048
@harlannguyen4048 Жыл бұрын
If Monster High is trying to have different iterations like Transformers over the years, then Mattel should have released more series to get people used to the idea.
@LaBellesGrace
@LaBellesGrace Жыл бұрын
I agree. I think letting the og cast grow up and show a new cast with the og characters coming in from time and time again for plot relevance (Frankie definitely would go and visit MH from time and time again) could have been such a genius idea. Companies seem to be too afraid to let go of the original cast which is why they rather reboot and completely change them - but at that point it might as well be new characters. I wish these (voice) actors got a better chance, because unfortunately, whenever fans intend it or not, there is going to be comparisons. It happened with the first reboot - but at least besides Kate Higgins, Laura Bailey and Erin Fitzgerald, everyone else returned. Wishing this all the best, I just don’t think I’m all for it personally.
@thekitkatlizard8661
@thekitkatlizard8661 Жыл бұрын
Hell, they could've just made it a spinoff with older Howleen and Twyla etc and their new friends
@pokegalla7237
@pokegalla7237 Жыл бұрын
I feel like they should just make a whole new series of new characters if they truly want to connect with the new generation and have the original characters come visit like future mentors. Like you want a new nerdy girl, a person who has uniqueness like prosthetics and make a backstory for that, an Egirl? Just make new characters! Adding it to the original characters will actually confuse future generations especially when we try to explain the differences. It just clashes. Plus the outfits should be based on their personality and what kind of monster they are (just like you said with Heath’s outfit. That just looked low budget. Like he just went to a target for the sweater and added the flame designs himself….)
@ilovewomenpleasepegmemaam692
@ilovewomenpleasepegmemaam692 Жыл бұрын
The way Clawdeen was such a fashion icon in monster high to the point where she got to go to Scaris and work with one of the best fashion designers in the world... and then in this movie she dresses like a 6th grader who just found out what hot topic is.
@jendoe9436
@jendoe9436 Жыл бұрын
Never got into Monster High, but I will admit some of the characters and designs from the original look pretty cool. Can definitely see it as a viable toy line (which I’m assuming is one of its main draws for people). And the play on monsters, myths, etc while a bit overdone to me, still makes for fun characters and personalities. Will say, Frankie possibly having a prosthetic leg instantly made me think of Hiccup from How to Train Your Dragon. I know other characters in media have prosthetics, but Hiccup is definitely one of the more popular and noticeable, especially cause there’s no magic, science, or techno way for him to ever get his leg back. Which just makes it odder to me that Frankie wouldn’t have an organic leg while the rest of her does. Maybe the creators ran out of geniuses?
@thekitkatlizard8661
@thekitkatlizard8661 Жыл бұрын
Hell, they could've given Cleo a prosthetic leg with the excuse that her leg just kinda fell off bc someone dropped her sarcophagus or something, rather than to the ghoul who can literally sew on limbs at will
@Firedrake-SP
@Firedrake-SP Жыл бұрын
Let's hope that the next six years will get gen 1 back and continue where it left off.
@Studio-Sidoki
@Studio-Sidoki Жыл бұрын
YES
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
Or we’ll get a Gen 4 and y’all bitches will be rounding up the pitchforks again
@ninus_0
@ninus_0 Жыл бұрын
the problem with frankie is mostly due to copyright from universal studios, universal is really strict about the rules of creating your own Frankenstein's monster. the only reason why G1 Frankiestein was really close to the universal type Frankenstein's monster is because mattel was working with Universal. The new G3 is made by nickelodeon so they simply don't have rights to many of the iconic things that make a Frankenstein's monster recognizable
@ninus_0
@ninus_0 Жыл бұрын
The characteristics that Universal holds the rights to (in the case of Frankenstein's monster) are: bolts on the neck, green skin, thunder bolt style white highlights on hair, a big "stitch" scar dividing the face. I'm pretty sure that most of the people reading already noticed that almost all of these are the characteristics which people say are missing from G3 Frankie!
@ninus_0
@ninus_0 Жыл бұрын
tldr; many of the changes are simply due to copyright and they just can't be worked around, while it's really easy to redesign and criticize the G3 designs everyone should keep in mind that the underbelly of creating a cartoon (especially one as iconic as Monster High, which worked under a totally different studio) is really complicated and tread mostly by the legal team, not the designers !
@-P1NBALL-PARAK33T-
@-P1NBALL-PARAK33T- Жыл бұрын
Okay, but can we talk about Heath and Cleo’s show characters? Cleo looks like she came from Shimmer and Shine, and Heath...I have no words..
@RichielaurensIII
@RichielaurensIII Жыл бұрын
Their outfits are the most disappointing to me. It looks bad. Now I will say that a reboot is a reboot and that means the characters won’t be the same. But some reboots just don’t work, like the mlp reboot. That’s because the previous version was already perfect. I think the same goes for MH
@joshwillis2879
@joshwillis2879 Жыл бұрын
Cleo clearly looks like a cross between Princess Jasmine and Isabella Madrigal. It doesn't work. The old one was much better. This reboot makes the first reboot actually look good. Don't even get me started on Lagoona, if they wanted a Mayan monster then create a new character and give a new name.
@soulsurfer7702
@soulsurfer7702 Жыл бұрын
They had one that was close it was a Manchu pichu flower monster that only blooms every several years.
@CelestePrimrose
@CelestePrimrose Жыл бұрын
@@soulsurfer7702 Amanita nightshade?
@soulsurfer7702
@soulsurfer7702 Жыл бұрын
@@CelestePrimrose I don’t remember the name but that could be I but just remember she would rarely bloom as a flower and it showed what looked like a tribe worshiping her.
@soulsurfer7702
@soulsurfer7702 Жыл бұрын
@@CelestePrimrose Or I might be confusing her with Marisol Coxi but they named it Monster Picchu.
@CelestePrimrose
@CelestePrimrose Жыл бұрын
@@soulsurfer7702 ah yes I think you've mistaken Marisol with the plant monster, Amanita. Amanita's origin are obscure but she's the one that a tribe worshipped before. Marisol is indeed the monster from Monster Picchu (a pun for Machu Picchu), the daughter of a Bigfoot.
@genevarh
@genevarh Жыл бұрын
They definitely missed a big opportunity with not basing more of the clothes off of 2000s/2010s scene/emo aesthetic. Not only was that what the original leaned towards, but it'd also just be really cool and open a lot of doors to be creative. And yeah, after standing as who they are for over a decade and being beloved by all, it's way too late to make such big changes to the classic characters. It would be way better (in my personal opinion :) ) to introduce new characters and maybe make them the original cast's children or something
@Soap_69
@Soap_69 Жыл бұрын
They did such a good job running the characters!
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
MH2022 being a Descendants/Zombies wannabe is ironic considering Disney felt threatened by Ever After High enough to take the Disney Princess license from Mattel and then make their own, far less thematically rich competitor in the form of Descendants. Also, Frankie with a prosthetic limb wouldn’t be a terrible idea if it wasn’t being used for this version of the character.
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
Why would Frankie with a prosthetic limb be better on the Gen 1 version
@mellowmallow4855
@mellowmallow4855 Жыл бұрын
Imma need them to stop messing with my girl Clawdeen. I LOVED the first iteration of her. She shares the same name as me. She was her own person who had no interest in dating and just lived hanging out with her friends. She was an older sister who called out her twin bro (another thing I loved as I have a twin named Claude) but always had his back. No one would have a problem with these reboots if they actually thought out the characters backgrounds, motivations, storyline, etc.
@st4rrypckuww
@st4rrypckuww Жыл бұрын
I honestly like *some* of the character designs, but not for the characters themselves. They could have been some cool new characters because that would work out better
@Rainbow.DELights
@Rainbow.DELights Жыл бұрын
When I saw the intro, and looked at Lagoona’s VA… I immediately know who she is. Ok, for those who don’t know, Valeria Rodriguez voices Strawberry Crepe Cookie (MY BELOVED💕💕💕💕) and Sucrose!!
@lavenderplace8591
@lavenderplace8591 Жыл бұрын
At least Deuce looks more like himself than the live action movie... other than that, all of these designs aren't my cup of tea...
@maskedblanks7774
@maskedblanks7774 Жыл бұрын
Ironic how "inclusivity" and "diversity" by Western standards are some of the least diverse and inclusive. I feel like I've seen the same old crap here in other recent Western media. It's the same old song and dance. Monster High makes it more noticeable because the old tagline of it was "be yourself, be unique, be a monster". But now it seems to be "be you only if you agree with our politics!" considering Western media's climate and aggression to anyone who doesn't agree with or is different to them (Vic Mignogna anyone?). Ghoulia again be not appearing, and I'm glad Abbey isn't being shown so far.
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
Yeah and since characters can't have accents anymore, Laura and Abbie, fans who lack representation that doesn't involve their ethnic being villains have less now.
@foofung9961
@foofung9961 Жыл бұрын
This 100%. Every western show pushes the exact same message (“the message”)If you know what I mean.Even my mother has noticed it- she now only watched Korean shows because... well they’re way better than the bs we’re making in the west.
@maskedblanks7774
@maskedblanks7774 Жыл бұрын
@@foofung9961 My mother also watches Korean shows a lot and despite noticing some similar story beats and tropes, it's still more fun, entertaining, and engaging compared to Western shows (also the music is generally pretty good). This is namely because the story beats and tropes that are repetitive in Korean dramas are not political. Nobody likes being preached to or talked down on, and Western shows do that in very condescending and smug holier-than-thou ways.
@AdachiCat
@AdachiCat Жыл бұрын
Yeah im finally accepting that childhood monster high is gone now ): this new reboot is ass
@isabelbelem9062
@isabelbelem9062 Жыл бұрын
@@maskedblanks7774 silly goose, everything has politics in it, you just dont see it yet
@Luluthewolf4466
@Luluthewolf4466 Жыл бұрын
They did heath so dirty design wise, it's absolutely horrendous.
@heathernicole3472
@heathernicole3472 Жыл бұрын
I think they should had continued with G1 monster high. Just my opinion! There’s so much more characters , dolls, & stories can come from that core of monsters. They could introduce new characters (like new lagoona).
@corazon.c
@corazon.c Жыл бұрын
They done massacred my childhood and now imma go in a corner and cry. But all jokes aside, I was actually looking forward to this reboot in hopes that they'll improve from the 2016 reboot but now looking at it it looks even worse in my opinion. I'm just gonna stick to the original MH and not even bat an eye to any more reboots unless they somehow bring back OG MH
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
Grow up
@pollymahone9392
@pollymahone9392 3 ай бұрын
​@@one-onessadhalf3393shut up
@Iominia
@Iominia Жыл бұрын
I... ugh... I'm sticking to the originals, thanks., I still have my original Frankie and Lagoona dolls from years ago, I adore their designs and the new ones are just so lifeless and mainstream it's depressing.
@bobi200samatar6
@bobi200samatar6 Жыл бұрын
They're really trying to make Monster High cute and like a normal doll line, when the whole appeal of this franchise is that it's the weird edgy and creepy alternative to your Barbies and My Little Ponies. By trying to make it softer and cuter, they're missing the point. Also give me back Ever After High, I loved those characters.
@rumooooni
@rumooooni Жыл бұрын
Heath looks like a hot wheel ad
@privspiralgalaxy
@privspiralgalaxy Жыл бұрын
right like they did him no justice 😔
@Michaeljack81sk
@Michaeljack81sk Жыл бұрын
I agree, Toralei actually looks pretty cool. As for the rest, I'm not terribly impressed either
@poetscotty
@poetscotty Жыл бұрын
Why don't they make new characters? SJWs always ruin original things. This just hurt my eyes.
@animezilla4486
@animezilla4486 Жыл бұрын
Because some people probably don't want new characters
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
@@animezilla4486Well we don't want this shit either
@realistfromrussia1244
@realistfromrussia1244 Жыл бұрын
@@animezilla4486 Or they were diagnosed with creative imроtеnсе.
@Cat.108
@Cat.108 Жыл бұрын
@@animezilla4486 monster high is always introducing new characters there's nothing wrong with this
@thetea4093
@thetea4093 Жыл бұрын
SJW? How are you still living in 2016 They made a reboot like this because of laziness and corporate greed, it had nothing to do with political ideology
@Jgumyjymghjvmhvj
@Jgumyjymghjvmhvj Жыл бұрын
I definitely like Cleo’s design better than the live action but it reminds me of Princess Jasmine
@PotatoQueen_
@PotatoQueen_ Жыл бұрын
Torelei's backstory change made me so sad because I loved her backstory! Also Lagoona was my first fave character and they just?? She looks NOTHING alike! Shes a whole new character!!
@choerbit
@choerbit Жыл бұрын
I love lagoonas reboot design to be honest, its very cute and she looks like an axolotl! But the original lagoona works better because the outfit being more detailed and fashionable instead of just casual wear and her skin matching with her last name Edit: the lagoona redesign is adorbs yall were just some haters 🤷🏻‍♀️
@alejandrocervantes3624
@alejandrocervantes3624 Жыл бұрын
They could have gotten around that by having her turn blue when shes under water (or even teal for that matter since Frankie is the blue one now) which on the dolls side, is a gimick mattel is been giving Barbie for decades!
@fmc291
@fmc291 Жыл бұрын
And they could have made her into an axolotl. South America has tons of mythology. But nothing in her look even reads Mayan, let alone South American
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
I miss the old Lagoona. They could've created a different character for that design
@choerbit
@choerbit Жыл бұрын
@@Saltedroastedcaramel my exact opinion!
@Saltedroastedcaramel
@Saltedroastedcaramel Жыл бұрын
@@choerbit I want my Australian surfer chick back
@shirlecemcghee
@shirlecemcghee Жыл бұрын
My question is did a anyone ask for this?
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho
@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho Жыл бұрын
I mean, some of us did, but Mattel answered in the most monkey paw way possible
@stuffwithsoph8264
@stuffwithsoph8264 Жыл бұрын
Clawdeen was always my favourite as a kid, her outfits were always so chic but with a tiny amount of edge cause she is a monster, they made her look like an awkward 9 year old in this 😭✋️
@fifi_flowertot
@fifi_flowertot Жыл бұрын
As an og monster high fan that LOVED monster high and all the old movies, it really pains me to see what they’ve done with the characters and especially their designs, as a kid what I loved most about monster high was the fashion and that goth aesthetic that they gave the characters and I really loved how they took the time to make EVERY character fashionable and unique and their outfits always resembled their character, but now all I see is lazily done character designs like why dose every character just look like that one geek that gets picked on? Clawdeen was really one of my favorite characters because of her hair and outfit and really how dare they replace her fur jacket and instead give her overalls and glasses? And Cleo, my favorite character, they literally stripped her away from all her excellence all the gold in her hair and diamonds and instead made her look extremely basic and boring oh and Duece loved him so much but his new redesign just destroys his former excellence, and DONT EVEN get me started on Draculaura because trust me I’m really not interested in making this comment longer than it already is, but all I’m going to say is this reboot is absolute garbage they should have left og monster high as it was.
@fredericksaxton9782
@fredericksaxton9782 Жыл бұрын
Lagoona and Clawdeen look awful..wtf were they thinking??? So..they make Deuce's white skin green..made Frankie's green skin blue...and made Lagoona's blue skin pink..wtfff??? For why? They literally just swapped their skin colours for no reason, it doesn't even make sense- And nooo, Clawdeen..what have they done to my idol?? What are these decisions??? I barely recognized Heath tbh-
@ladderstothemoon7415
@ladderstothemoon7415 Жыл бұрын
They literally hit randomise on the skin colours it's all hideous
@Eeok
@Eeok Жыл бұрын
Looks worst than my 8 year old oc designs
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi Жыл бұрын
I never watched Monster High but the designs look lackluster.
@tweekedupkid
@tweekedupkid Жыл бұрын
Frankie had to be blue wit no neckbolts due to copyright. after falling out wit whatever business that owns frankienstien, they weren't able to use the frankienstien look.
@forestings
@forestings 11 ай бұрын
the older ones were so great. it's like they turned it into a show for toddlers. like bubble guppies. it won't surprise me if next reboot has Cleo going "hey kids! who's ready to spell?!"
@goufr3540
@goufr3540 Жыл бұрын
I get the idea of making Monster High a multigenerational series like GI Joe or Transformers, but you need some serious time and effort to make that even happen. At they rate they are going, they should of stopped after the first reboot did so poorly.
@kingdomorange2
@kingdomorange2 Жыл бұрын
Omg I agree with you on so many of your points! I think Clawdeen's hair is looks like the dye washed out, I don't understand Frankie's rocker haircut, it worked well for Venus and not for them. Also did you notice Cleo has bugs crawling on her? Yuck!
@grekoy
@grekoy Жыл бұрын
Jackson is so underrated. He have so much potential and can be the star of his own movie. He sid have a role in that halloween movie and an arc about him with Frankie. Plus he's supposed to be related to Heath. A movie about him would be cool.
@lilmissmilesyt9363
@lilmissmilesyt9363 Жыл бұрын
They removed Clawed ever since the reboots started, I think. I don't know if he's around but Clawed was one of my favorite male characters and I loved how supportive he is with Draculura. When the school had the Vampire vs Werewolves, he still wanted to be by her side but was keep being pulled away by his I think his cousin who he hasn't seen in a while. But once found out his cousin was against his and Draculura's relationship he quickly left them to find her. In Roller Brawl he let her, and the other girls join the team since he gotten hurt but all the guys (minus Gill he liked the idea, but the other dudes dragged him away) left as they didn't wanna team up with girls. Even when that happened, he stands by his choice in letting the girls play. He was the kinda guy to not let others' opinions ruin what he loves and it's sad that they seem to have forgotten him.
@one-onessadhalf3393
@one-onessadhalf3393 9 ай бұрын
He’s in the show
@lilmissmilesyt9363
@lilmissmilesyt9363 9 ай бұрын
@@one-onessadhalf3393 They put him back in? Also this comment is a bit old and I haven't seen updates yet Hope he still kind and supportive as he was in the og
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