I've always maintained that kid buu isn't stronger but he's far more unrestrained which make for absolutely insane feats

I always thought Buu's antenna grows longer after absorbing Gotenks because it slightly mimics the ssj3 hair

People out here still thinking kid buu is the strongest😭

Honestly I think the Kid Buu vs Super Buu debate gets muddled a lot by filler. Cause the filler makes both Kid Buu and Goku out to be stronger than the manga did. It's for the same reason that people thought 100% Frieza was stronger than SSJ1 Goku on Namek, filler.

To be fair the series is a bit contradictory towards which is the strongest buu. Having read the manga first i always go with Buuhan, since those lines about Kid Buu being the strongest are only in the anime.

It baffles me how many people are holding onto kid buu being the strongest

If buu absorbs people it makes him stronger and depending how many fighters & their strength, by that logic plain and simple buuhan is stronger than kid buu. How are people missing that?

My friend used to tell me “Super Buu is stronger than kid buu, kid buu is just more chaotic which makes him a tougher force to deal with” and that transcribed with me since as my head canon.

Glad people realize kid buu isn't stronger than super buu. He's just more dangerous cuz unlike super buu, kid buu won't wait around for a fight. I hate the anime put that line in by goku saying kid buu was strongest

I like the idea that kid buu is physically the weakest, but makes full use of his unique physiology as well as just being completely unpredictable.

Maybe Buu gains not only power and intelligence but also fighting styles, ideas, potential? Kid Buu knew how to use instant transmission because he saw the memories of everyone seeing it multiple times (Fat Buu only saw it once). Cell also saw it 4+ times (ESPECIALLY seeing it used THREE TIMES during the Cell games alone) and just learned it. People think its Toriyama plot convenience. Maybe it isnt. Both Cell and Majin Buu also learned Kamehamehas by seeing it (just like Goku did). Even in the Saiyan Saga, Vegeta saw them do it and like ..learned it in his pod on the way to Namek. For those of you who dont remember when Cell saw instant transmission: 1) When Goku saved Piccolo and Tien before the Cell games. (He might of used one for Piccolo and one for Tien so arriving and each save might have made this 3 times including arrival) 2) When he fled with Piccolo and Tien 3) Instant transmission Kamehameha 4) 2nd form going to King Kai (HE WAS LITERALLY TOUCHING CELL when he did it. So Cell even got to see how telepprting felt.

I agree with kid buu being weaker than super buu

Through the usual progression of each new iteration usually being stronger than the last, I assumed Kid Buu being the most “pure” Buu would be the strongest. But you definitely got me rethinking that entirely lmao. Great research and presentation my guy!

SSJ3 Gotenks Vs Super Buu is honestly the only evidence I need to say Kid Buu is weaker & actually by a lot. Always thought the antenna getting longer was just from Gotenks absorption.

I also want to point out a detail that I always found interesting about when Super Buu ripped a hole to exit the hyperbolic time chamber...He seemed genuinely surprised and confused. He, like the z-fighters, takes a moment to understand that his screams alone ripped a transdimensional hole. The point I'm trying to make is that, even in the supposed most powerful state, I don't think he comprehends his own strength. Kid Buu, on the otherhand, seems to operate entirely on his vicious instincts; this is purely speculation but, even if he didn't know the extent of his power, I doubt he would be surprised to when surpassing his own limits. Rather, I think he would chaotically experiment with his destructive potential, discovering and utilizing his abilities on the fly (much like a growing child). This might be another reason why he is considered the most dangerous form as opposed to the one with the most innate power. Moreover, he seems to regress in terms of what he is aware he is capable of; his speech, transdimensional travel, and even absorption techniques are all tossed to the wayside and he reverts to using overwhelming blasts, physical form manipulation, and regeneration. It is as if he simply forgot how to perform these feats entirely and needed to relearn them. In short, Kid Buu has the exponential aptitude of a child in the critical learning period...If the z-fighters let him exist for long enough in the Kid Buu state, I have no doubts he could easily become a form of majin that dwarfs all of the other forms we'd seen up to that point. On a personal note: Can't wait to see Uub and 21 hit Dragon Ball Super when it finally returns.

I always loved the super buu design and attitude he portrayed on kami’s lookout. Especially his human extinction attack🔥🔥🗿

I love your videos.

As a kid buu fan, ill admit, I spent a piss ton of time as him throuout the games

These were the debates in elementary school 20 years ago; and actually recently 😂

Great list. Super Buu is stronger than Kid Buu for sure, BUT as others have said, Kid Buu was more dangerous because he wasn't as restrained like other Buus

From how I see things, I see Super Buu being the full potential Buu can weild in a suitable body by himself without absorbing others to become more powerful. Kid Buu is pretty much how powerful he is without having any hinderences, yet he never learned how to access his own potential without absorbing. All of the other Buu forms (Minus Uub) are influenced by what he absorbed, even Super Buu, who still had the Supreme Kai through Good Buu. I don't know how long Buu remained Kid Buu before absorbing the Kai. Absorbing others made him mature ìn an artificial manner, and Kid Buu being pure feels like his age also reverted to a child's, which is likewise be his natural age. So Super Buu and Uub being stronger than Kid Buu makes sense. Super Buu showed his potential while Uub is the version that gets the training to access that potential without using a kind of shortcut.

20:57 Goten Is Wild For That One Lmao

The reason he wasnt weakened by absorbing gohan for example is he isnt a kai. The key there is the kai aspect being a pure hearted god. Gohan is a mortal huge difference and creates a massive flaw in your argument. There is also a difference between buutanks and super buu and it is stated that when fat buu was removed from super buu that he wasnt losing any strength but in fact gaining.

nice to see your still alive

Love your content Moodzi sorry i forgot to subscribe even after watching so many vids but now i will. keep up the great work dude

During the transformation from Super Buu to Kid Buu, the power was going up because Buu was going through the form where he absorbed the buff Kai. He moved through that form though and ended on Kid Buu.

cool video

Let’s go just what I needed

Cool to see you upload again within like a week ❤️

Majuub is literally a decade ahead of all the others

BRAVO!!! FINALLY in all these years!!! So on point!

Your list is completely in line with how I’d rank them and you did a great job at articulating it too. Good job I’ll like and sub now

Sorry but there is no way Android 21 is weaker then Majuub. GT and Super's power gap is way to freaking massive. Android 21 is fighting the entire Z-Fighters who are roughly around the Universe 6 and Black storylines. Which even back in the first saga (BOG) Goku and Beerus were already causing the entire universe to disintegrate in just a couple punches which is far better then anything shown in GT.

I feel like the Majin species is something I would like to see more of Like are there other Majins? Is a Kirby a Majin lol?

No one in the show ever called kid buu the "strongest", he's dead even with Goku They say he's the most "dangerous" because he's just completely unhinged. Big difference

Finally a worth watching video

Kid Buu is only considered the most dangerous because he's completely unhinged and cannot surpress his ki Otherwise he's only as strong as (or more likely slightly weaker than) regular super Buu aka evil buu after reabsorbing his good half

crazy how we can't have buu in the tournament of power, but master roshi can 1v1 jirin

Baby scorpions are exponentially more dangerous than adult scorpions because they don't (or can't) control their venom. They expend all of it on a single strike whereas the adult will conserve it. Kid Buu is a baby scorpion.

it's crazy how i started my editing career because of your intro. The butterfly effect is really crazy!

BuHan is the strongest, kid bu is the most dangerous

Majin buu & Cell are the rwo most dangerous of all DBZ characters

Please make a future video for every villain from all four 1990’s dragon ball movies from weakest to strongest please

I think kid buu learning Instant transmission was out of neccessity. Super Buu wasnt really wanting to destroy everything, Kid buu wanted to kill EVERYTHING. Super Buu might have could do IT but 1 never saw it performed, and 2 never needed to quickly destroy planets quickly

Moodzi cap with that kid buu placement

Buuhan fought against Super Vegito and put up a great fight yet Ssj3 Goku was able to handle Kid buu by himself for the most part,except for when his power started to drain rapidly Buuhan is by far the strongest,and smartest(he had piccolo in him during that time) Kid buu is just more dangerous cause he cannot be reasoned with at all(like most kids ironically lol) *Edit* i wanted to add that South supreme kai beat the hell out of Kid buu before kid buu absorbed him.South supreme kai would have gotten evaporated by Buuhan rather fast lol

Love the theory of the length of Buus tentacle and age/appearance representing his overall strength. Very interesting indeed.

When I watched this as a kid, i could never have imagined that someone was thinking that kid buu was the strongest.

I agree Majuub is the strongest Buu. Uub and Kid Buu are my favorite Buu's.

Your theory sounds solid to me given what I personally know to be true about power levels and scaling. Age and the conditioning of the mind and body do play a factor in power level and when Buu absorbs others, he gains all their capabilities, which includes additional age and conditioning. The identity stayed the same purely due to Buu having free will. Plus being a magical being does grant some illogical perks due to magic never being fully explored in any Dragon Ball lore to get a full understanding of how it works.

Also take into account that our heroes are tired, weakened, and demoralized. They're going up against an opponent who fights in such a way that they don't yet have an answer to. Buu is chaotic, unhinged, and not holding back. Sure he toys with them, but he also doesn't give them any real chance to recover. He's like the drunken boxer of dbz, only much more insane and mostly keeps Goku, Vegeta, and Majin Buu on the defensive.

i actually like youre theory

i too agree that kid buu isnt stronger than super buu however kid buu had grand kaioshin"s god powers which helped goku beat moro

I’v been finally convinced that super buu is stronger. Thank you

Kid Buu, at the time of his creation in the DBZ universe, was the strongest character. In my opinion, GT is not canon, and let's be honest, GT essentially replicates the formula of Z. The final fight and the strongest character in GT is the Dragon, which is not significantly different from Buu. The Dragon has similar powers, and the fight takes place on Earth, not across the universe. They defeat the Dragon in the same manner as Buu. GT is essentially Z with different characters, offering nothing new except for the introduction of Super Saiyan 4. That being said, the strongest version of Buu is his original form. If characters like 17 can scale up to Super levels, Kid Buu would as well, making him insanely more powerful than anything seen so far.

You gotta love how Gohan vs Super Buu [Gotenks adsorbed] fight start up. It's the throwback to Goku vs Vegeta fight back during the Saiyan saga

Wait so if MB and base super buu have the same power just with a better fighting body, if goku was stronger than MB in ss3, doesn't that make base S Buu just as weak or equal to kid buu?

Only casual fans think kid buu is the strongest

16:29 thats a great theory, notice that dbs slim majin buu still has a smaller atannae, compared to buuhan, whose is longer than normal super buu

Nice

1 thing about kid buu in the manga is this, even in the panel that you showed where it said kid buu is the most dangerous, the next panel with kibito kai said, "He lost power" when he absorbed the kais

Why Kid Buu is strongest: 1. Gohan, Piccolo, Goten, Trunks, the characters in the lookout, Kibito Kai and dozens others gave their energy but Goku explained it still wasn't enough to beat Kid Buu. Considering this is Genki energy and how insanely strong it is, Gohans group alone would have been enough if Super Buu was actually weaker. 2. When Goku says he couldn't beat Super Buu if he and Vegeta didn't fuse, he was also the size of a pea, he had no idea if he would expand once he got out, so that statement is a poor example to use. 3. Elder Kai said that absorbing the Kai's brought his power down, and that "nerf" was part of Super Buu, so why would a Nerfed version of Buu be stronger than a Pure Kid Buu with no nerf? 4. Kid Buu constantly showed instant regeneration with no signs of slowing down even though he was blown to bits likely thousands of times before he appeared on the Kai's planet. Super Buu, and Buuhan we're both getting weaker and slowing down their regen from far less damage. 5. The vast majority of video games and card games have Kid Buus power (attacks and health) being the highest of all Buus. Inferring Kid Buu is strongest. Bonus Point: Powerlevels doesn't actually tell you who is strongest. Dabura and Majin Vegeta both would have killed Fat Buu if not for his regeneration ability. While Super Buu/Buu absorptions could in theory be stronger depending on certain statements, they are not pure Buu, their regen ability is diluted. Kid Buu would outlast any of them and eventually win much like how Android 17 would likely have eventually beaten Piccolo by outlasting him. Super Buu could blast Kid Buu over and over and he'll just keep popping back, while Super Buu, who is a nerfed Buu due to the Kai's, would not

Expound apound I never noticed the aging bit... but I always thought (since watching it weekly when Z was first playing in America) the "head antenna" was a symbol of Buu's power level.

Good video, love your stuff. Is GT Canon? I didn't think it was.

The actual counter for goku not willing to fight super buu is the one thing people keep forgetting. Goku was still on borrowed time while super buu was around. He was already in the after life when it came to fighting kid buu. All he had left was time at that point. It was never about who was the bigger threat. It was about rather or not he would run out of time before he handled buu.

As a kid myself at the time, when watching dbz I always felt kid buu was weaker. I don't recall him ever doing anything buuhan wasn't capable of (other than instant transmission) Also him being pretty unhinged was a double-edged sword. For example I cant picture buuhan falling for the spirit bomb, or at least not as easily.

I've read something on the recent chapter of the manga in super, I think in the moro arc, that, when the north kai was absorbed, the kid buu was supressed by creating the majin buu. Then when kid buu appeared again and separated itself from majin buu, he kept the god energy of the north kai, making him similar to a god of destruction. It maybe explains the greater resistance from kid buu in the battle against the trio (goku, vegeta, majin buu) even though he didn't activate the god part.

I believe that Kid Buu’s power level is in between base Super Buu and Buutenks.

Yeah you are right, Kid Buu is actually one of the weakest Buus, how can someone think otherwise?

This is so funny bc I was at a convention a long time ago and ask the same question to a DBZ Writer and he said it’s let up to interpretation, but that being said he did say if he had to choose buuhan was supposed to be his peak

I changed my mind ngl,and it's a good theory

There is no difference between Kid buu and Super Buu. During the Buu saga the only way a Buu can get stronger is to absorb someone. Both Kid BUu, Super Buu, and the original Fat buu Had no additional source of power inside of them. They all had equal power

Manga wise weakest to strongest: Innocent Buu, Wrath Buu, Fat Buu, Super Buu, Buuculo, Buff Buu, Kid Buu, Buutenks, Buuhan, Uub, Majuub. So kaioshin energy is negative for Buu as it is opposite his nature which is why the energy can't be used to revive Buu. So Kid Buu absorbing any Kai weakens him. In your video you left out Vegeta referring to SSJ 3 Goku as the strongest Z fighter twice. Once when Goku is fighting Kid Buu and secondly in episode 1 or 2 of DBS. Goku and Vegeta also in dbs manga refer to Kid Buu as their most difficult opponent even after Zamastu. Goku said against Buuculo he was disappointed meaning he lost interest in fighting him because of his low power level. He further states even Gohan can beat you now meaning Goku himself could but he lost interest. Later on though he was reluctant to use SSJ 3 in front of Vegeta. Also the fact Goku believed it would take the combined efforts of him, Vegeta, Gohan, and Gotenks to defeat Kid Buu proves he's much stronger than Super Buu.

i went absolutely nuts when you disrespected kid buu like that. my keyboard just broken

That’s a legit theory especially being that you came up with it as a kid and it still holds water to date

Gohan not stronger than goku. Having gohan power does not make hom stronger than kid buu. Plus it dont make sense for the final villian to be weaker than villians before. Unless its just bad writing

Kidd buu would of beat goku if they didn’t wish his powers back to normal so i still think kidd buu stronger 😭 that’s just me

If I'm not mistaken, I believe Majin Buu at the start of the arc and the Fat Buu at the end of the arc are technically treated as different entities since the former would still have some access his eviler side's power?

Majin Buu is a creature formed from magic. Essentially, one of those monsters of the week from power Rangers... but actually a threat. The idea that Dr Gero was able to find a sample and reverse engineer that into Android 21- so merging magic with science - has implications I'm not comfortable thinking about. Side note, nice Bruuly on the thumbnail. Don't remember seeing that absorption, but that's a terrifying thing to contemplate.

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Fat Buu (not Good Buu) was just as strong as base Super Buu, but not focused. There is no indication that there was any difference in power until Super Buu started absorbing people. Yes, SSJ3 Goku had more difficulty fighting Kid Buu, but 1. Fat Buu wasn't really hurt, 2. Strength and difficulty to fight are different things, as Kid Buu was animalistic, while Fat Buu was like a kid with hax, 3. Goku was dead against Fat Buu, so he could draw out all of SSJ3's power. 4. Buu's personality was tamed, not his power level, by the Kaioshin People forgot how terrifyingly powerful Fat Buu was.

Uub so underrated

You got it right! I respect you.

While I was hoping to avoid another "all the evidence shows Super Buu is stronger" video because I've seen plenty of those and already knew that since I just paid attention while watching the show. I hate that Kid Buu fans create this need to explain things to them over and over every time. But moving past that the list was good and well thought out. I really liked hearing yout talk about why Super Buu being stronger than the first Buu we see despite not having absorbed anyone at this point (other than Dabura and random civilians). And I LOVE the idea you put in my head at the end by talking about Majuub by his concept. Because I'd love to see Majuub in a different timeline, with all the power he deserves. And maybe being trained by Supreme Kai to unlock even more powers locked inside him. Good Buu is the MOST underutilised character in the show, until he becomes Majuub where it becomes even more criminal that he gets instantly pushed to the side in GT. He is an ultimate personification of wasted potential. I want Supreme Majuub! He's got two kais in him!

I thought the comments about kid buu was more that he's the most dangerous version of Buu. that form is a threat around SS3, but with the mentality of a toddler. that form just does whatever looks like fun. there is no reasoning with that form. it's just destruction incarnate. the super buu forms are definitely stronger, but less dangerous in the sense that they can reason. Edit: Paused right before you went over this exact point lmao

Great theory on the antenna

I agree with your theory man

My favourite Dragonball villain is kid buu but Ik very well that he is weaker than super buu. The only reason he was harder to defeat is because he was more dangerous and reckless with more destructive capabilities

Just a quick note on the storyline of DBFZ: there's some kind of spirit side of the story and all the characters have been nerfed and reduced in strength. There's no canon context to compare android 21 with at all. Unfortunately she cannot be listed on any list due to this because even in the dbfz storyline there's this outside factor tampering with accurate power scaling. There's no way of knowing what the level 99 power level actually is to go with standard dragonball scaling. Great video though!

Kid Buu is the natural state of Evil Buu. The evil makes him that much more intense just like the margin did for Vegeta. He reached his super Saiyan 2 level due to Babadi's magic & was able to overcome it & maintain it.

I think Android 21 is still a Majin and an Android. She literally was made using Buu's very essence on top of every other thing. Mich like how I consider Cell a saiyan, namekian, Freiza Race, and human/Triclops (if you count the Earthlings as also part of his makeup) because of the DNA he's made from. Plus I have a theory for at least the Z anime's canon that Torbie's race was a lot of Cell's surface level appearance, too. Anyone who actually knows stuff like otherworld contestants will understand the reference probably. Basically a red bug alien that has the reverse head protrusion shape and isn't a villain.

Me just returning to the franchises. “What is who divided by how much?

This is a brilliant way of displaying split personality disorder. Damn DBZ goes deep

It’s funny buu reference piccolo and bail together wow I miss that as a kid

DBZ KAI Episode 60 (158) 3min45sec mark Sub - S-so then, can you beat Boo? He has reverted to being the most dangerous and powerful Majin Boo there is." Dub- So you two are confident you can still defeat Majin Buu even though he's reverted to the most primitive, dangerous , and powerful version of himself? DBZ Kai Episode 159 (61) 3min18 Sec Mark Sub "Majin Buu...He might be a screwball, but his power, his speed, and his recuperateive ability is amazing. This Boo ain't anywhere near what he's been up to now He's out of this world strong." Dub - "This Boo...he may not be the smartest and I'm not even sure if he's sane, but his power and speed are out of this world. And he can regenerate from damage almost instantly! This is definitely his most dangerous form."

I play a lot of DBZ games on mobile, and every time, android 21 is shown. She is the strongest. I mean way stronger in every way. She also makes an appearance in kakarot in bulmas lab. But good video brother. You do good work. 😊

I once heard that there is a theory that they wanted to reverse Buu's evolution so that he would be Kid Buu again, that's why Ub was created, but they changed the name so that Kid Bu wouldn't be evil again, and as for C21, there was a theory that if we don't recognize Dragonbola GT, our friendly Bu will be found by the prince satan about love and split into Mr. and Mrs. Bu and that's how they created the Buu race

On talk of theories one I always had was that when half breeds loose limbs it cuts off a ton off there power. On top of other factors that would explain why future gohan was so weak. Despite constantly fighting, zenkais etc. we see this happen to teen gohan during his fight with cell. He didn’t loose his arm literally but he might as well had he couldn’t use it. An as a result, he lost 50% of power. Which seems normal but since when have characters lost 50% / half of their power. Just from a limb being left useless? Especially considering gohan hadn’t really exerted much energy. Unless you think he got tired from kicking cells ass. An 1 shotting the cell jrs Considering saiyans are a warrior race an well you need limbs to fight it could make sense. Just my own theory though

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I am pretty sure that you can be both, an Android and a Majin. My understanding is, she was created as an android and after some time she took some sort of magical science pill that turned her into a Majin. In reality you can have two parents of differing "race" making you basically mixed, so Android 21 might be just that, a mixed character.