The book that is needed to discuss what happened to redtail is *Forest of Secrets,* not into the wild.

Sandpaw has no parents she just materialized out of thin air and spite

“Don’t abandon me father” “Oh I will” _slowly dies in the background_

When the background is a solid color you know it’s going to be good

sometimes i forget moon is an actual person and i think she's just a cat on screen staring into my soul

i like to imagine the characters are self-aware about the terrible family trees with implied incest and just never mention it because it would end up as a 300 message discord debate and nobody wants that

Tulipkit: The kit that was hidden from existence since birth.

My biggest gripe with the more recent books is when Finpaw has to have his tail chomped off and he and everyone else is lamenting about how hard it will be for him to relearn climbing, balance, etc. If only there was some clan cat who Finpaw could talk to who had experienced such trauma too! ..... I'm genuinely convinced the writers didn't know that Berrynose had the exact same plot used on him. I'm also genuinely convinced they had no idea Berrynose had a stump tail at all, as it is never mentioned again after arch....3? I don't remember which arch. That's not important. It's just.....why not have Finpaw train under Berrynose upon joining Thunderclan? It would have been the perfect and obvious matchup.

dovewing: continues having her eye colour changed me: *casually draws her with heterochromia cause i do what i want*

i always loved the idea of Dovewing having her eyecolor linked to her power. Like she is tuning in on the sea its blue, listening into the forest, green, if listening outside the clans (like when she hears the beavers) its gold/hazel Edit: not otters but beavers, poor choice of words there from me

Let’s not forget cats like Heavystep and Beetlewhisker coming back to life

How does no one realize the Mintkit and Marigold kit inconsistency was done on purpose??? Yellowfang thinks that maybe she smells fox. No one else smells it, and there are no other signs of a fox. This is clearly her trying to rationalize this in her grief. They are her siblings after all. That's why it's such a shock when Yellowfang finds out Brokenstar was the one who killed the kits. I can't believe that was so confusing for people.

Brackenfur is Cinderheart’s dad, but since Cinderheart is also Cinderpelt, Brackenfur is her dad and brother.

I honestly consider tigerheart and tigerheartstar different characters

i once talked to someone who said the erins all write alone in separate rooms, never talking to each other, and i'm not completely convinced he wasn't wrong

I hate how in Twilight they emphasise Crowfeather’s AMBER eyes, like, c’mon, they’re obviously blue

Plot Twist:) Breezepelt's character has changed due to being possessed. Breezepelt, at some point after the Great Battle, is somehow badly injured, leaving him in a near-death scenario. During this time, a spirit pocesses him. This spirit is probably a young warrior, apprentice, or exile longing to live the life they never had/could've had, so they take Breezepelt's. I'd imagine Breezepelt would either be infuriated or depressed by seeing how his Clanmates and everyone around him adores this new Breezepelt, but idk how this idea would end/play out. Note:) This idea was just intriguing to me, especially seeing how it happened to Bramblestar and I thought it could explain why Breezepelt seems to change so quickly.

I can't believe that now that they're finally fixing their mistake of making Ashfur "just misunderstood" after his attempted murders, they're doing the exact same thing again with breezepelt. Maybe in a couple arcs we'll have a plot where breezepelt was evil all along and possesses jayfeather lol.

My favorite retcons are the random gender swaps. Mosskit, Brick, Rowanclaw, ect.

wait, Dovewing's eyes have been Gold, Blue and Green? ..oh. They're actually all three - green around the iris, fades to gold and then there's a blue ring. Source: My own cats have eyes that "color". It's natural, and everyone arguing has possibly never seen a cat.

Imagine a moonkitti podcast (Of just "End this cat, here's why")

Warriors has a problem I like to call "too many cooks in the kitchen". When you have that many hands in the pot it's easy for this person to forget to tell that person that this cat is actually female/has blue eyes/is directly related to Willowpelt.

There is also Smokepaw, a shadowclan apprentice who makes the great journey but dies on the way (falls when trying to get across a mountain and rocks fall on him or something), but then a book or two later he is seen as a warrior called Smokefoot

I haven't even read a Warrior Cats book in years, but it's genuinely interesting to me when Moonkitti describes it.

please moonkitti talk more warrior cats at me :heart_eyes: :heart_eyes: edit: :heart_eyes:

Oh boy, Moonkitti’s OC and a solid background! Get ready!

my comments are always so irrelevant but- little moonkitti in front of the little mic. that frame has my entire heart.

Moonkitti: I don't need to know who's mother is to be satisfied Hollyleaf: Deathberry. Eat it. Now.

Brindleface- " whitestorms the father " Whitestorm - " THOSE AINT MINE!" Brindleface - " oh well then anyone could be the father ...I mean ANYONE!"

Another point to the Onestar thing it was always very clear that the reason he changed so much was to prove that he was a capable leader, and didn't need to rely on ThunderClan or ANY Clan for help. So to give him a REASON (like a secret kittypet family) to hate Firestar when he already HAD a valid enough reason to become complete trash just....eugh. It seems like unnecessary stuff added for that extra drama. It's good drama, but still.

THANK YOU for validating my confusion when Squilf told Tigerheartstar he wouldn't remember the great battle. I had to stop reading for a moment and think about the fact that the writing team completely skipped over his ENTIRE story arc.

in Greystripe's vow, he keeps repeating he's never been to the Moonstone, despite him visiting it as an apprentice.

I would also like to mention that I think it’s funny how the editorial team is using family relations in Graystripe’s super edition. Graystripe is grieving over Stemleaf when he goes “Ah, poor Spotfur, his mate. Who looks just like her kin, Frostfur. Who reminds me of her son, Ravenpaw.” Like...cool?

I imagine dovewing having green eyes that kiiiinda look blue in some lighting like in some cats. But still green

I honestly can't call the writing of Warrior Cats "good". There are so many inconsistencies and mistakes that it makes it unbearable to read to me, but at the same time I want to keep reading. I don't know if I like it don't like warriors anymore.

I'm actually kind of surprised you didn't bring up the "retcon" that in the new prophecy Squirrelflight's Mentor is listed as Dustpelt but later on in the series Squirrelflight herself says that Brambleclaw was her Mentor in a conversation with him. When Brambleclaw was said to not have mentored when he became deputy, which at the time was a big deal in the clan, until Berrykit turned 6 moons.

Can we talk about Snowkit's sister? She literally appeared 1 or 2 times and then disappeared

I was SO CONFUSED when I read Redtail's Debt 😂 That bothered me so much I wish the writers would actually read each other's previous books lmao

It's little changes in the books that make writing AUs fun. Like how in my AU, Redtail and Goldenflower are Sandstorm's parents (which solves the Ashfur uncle problem). You might be thinking "oh no, what about Squirrel x Bramble?!", consider this: He doesn't exist in my AU. AUs are a lot of fun, but also a lot of work.

Me: wasn't there that thing where Smokepaw fell off a cliff in the mountains during the great journey? Also me: didn't he come back in a later book as a full warrior with an apprentice of his own?

Tigerstar didn't even say Redtail killed Oakheart, though. He said Oakheart killed Redtail, and then Tigerstar killed Oakheart "while he was still gloating over his victory." Both Ravenpaw and Firepaw misinterpreted that Redtail killed Oakheart because they didn't see the rocks fall on Oakheart. All Ravenpaw knows is that Redtail screamed "Oakheart is dead" while covered in blood. I still agree that they did not research enough, if at all. I know this shit from memory, the least they could have done is just read more than two passages in a book.

I went to see cats (the worst movie ever) and my friend thought it was warrior cats 😂😂😂😂

Y'know, it's lowkey kinda pathetic that there are so many retcons/continuity errors that we can actually have this whole discussion. These people are being PAID to slap these books together, yet somehow fans (including literal children) are able to keep better track of the lore just because they actually vaguely care. Hell, the writers don't even have to make their own series bible because we have an entire fan-made encyclopedia with more information than they could ever hope for. It's literally as easy as it could get for them to double check information.

I actually caught a retcon in the books just the other day, or at least a mistake. In Power of Three: The Sight, there is a bout of greencough going through Thunderclan camp, and this is when Jayfeather saves Poppypaw from dying of the illness. However, as the clan is discussing hunting patrols, Millie who had recently joined the clan, told Firestar that she could go out on hunting patrols without risk of greencough, because when she was a kittypet she was taken the the cutter (vet) and no longer gets sick. However, later on in the series (I don’t remember the specific book don’t come for me) a very severe outbreak of greencough breaks out in Thunderclan, causing them to quarantine the sick cats in the abandoned twoleg nest to prevent further spread. And very notably it is mentioned that Millie is one of the sickest cats in the bunch. It seems to me that the authors completely forgot about Millie’s previous “immunity” to illnesses, and just wanted to create more drama involving Graystripe almost losing another mate. Feel free to tell me if I’m wrong!

I like to imagine Dovewing's eyes are a teal - turquoise sorta color with golden parts (idk which. Maybe rims around the pupils but sectoral heterochromia would look cool too). And when she's using her powers they turn fully golden & glow bc I live for "character's eyes glow when using powers" kind of tropes

Talk at me more Oh, I wish that was what my friends said when I rant to warriors at them

The Author's got fooled by the cat that they created.. Wow lmao ( im talking abt how whoever plotted Redtail's debt got fooled by Tigerclaw)

That means Spottedleaf is related to Sandstorm

Moonkitti: going on tangents about series 3-5. Me just finishing series 2: oh boi spill the tea sis

Breezepelt in OOTS: I kill u now Breezepelt in TBC: I am soft angel

I still don’t understand why Runningwind can’t be/isn’t the father of Ashfur and Ferncloud, but somehow mates with Dappletail. It makes NO sense.

Good news! According to the family tree on the website, Sandstorm isn't Redtail and Brindleface's kit anymore! One less way everyone is related to everyone!

I've always liked Redtail and Brindleface together (and Sandstorm being their daughter) for some reason, even though they never interact lol

I feel like I know most of the problems with the things brought up in the video. Most of them are because Erin hunter (I’m just saying this for implying all the writers) didn’t have a consistent story line, they came up with everything as they went. They didn’t think it out they just went with what their mind came up with. At least that’s my theory

Also why are these books so contradictive

I like Tennelle's DoveWing theory about how they change when she uses her power.

When most of the Oc Villains are more thought out and better than most of the canon villans. I feel so bad about what this series has become.

'Please, Moonkitti, talk at me more'. That's me. Mostly 'cause I loop your videos in order to fall asleep. They're that perfect balance of funny and wholesome to make the general terrible state of the world at large fade from my brain for a bit.

I think we just like listening to her rant about things. I do. Her voice is soothing.

Dovewing's eyes: exist Lion King fandom: you're new here arent you

Perhaps Sandstorm and Graystripe are secretly former Kittypets, hence why no one ever mentions their parents? That would make some implications as to perhaps why both Sandstorm and Graystripe bonded well with Firestar, as they could secretly relate to his kittypet status. In Bluestar's super edition, there's a time jump to when suddenly she is receiving the "Fire alone will save our clan" prophecy from Spottedleaf after having lost many clanmates in battle and from sickness. Perhaps at this moment, she had already recruited Sandpaw and Graypaw? We never witness (at least from Bluestar's POV) the birth of Sandpaw and Graypaw, so it could be possible she recruited them (Or someone dropped them off)? After doing so, perhaps decided to go at it one more time to go and literally look for a "fire colored cat" to fulfill the prophecy lol? This would also further make us empathize more with how recruiting Rusty angers Tigerclaw, Longtail, the elders, etc as they already had to previously witness the integration of former kittypets Sandpaw and Graypaw from the previous moons. This theory of course, falls apart when we realize that the anger toward "kittypetness" was strictly directed specifically toward Firestar, and never to Sandstorm or Graystripe. Furthermore, Graystripe specifically states his initial disdain toward the kittypet lifestyle when he is taken in for adoption (proving his lack of kittypet experience), and only starts to become appreciative of the lifestyle after he meets Mille. ___ In the quest to find Sandstorm and Graystripe's parents, we can deduce that Whitestorm is likely not Sandstorm's father, since he was her mentor (And the clans don't prefer parents mentoring their own kits). Similarly, Lionheart is likely not Graystripe's father as he was his mentor. Ultimately however, we may never find out their parents as perhaps the writers didn't imagine to go into this much detail into the character's family trees when they started writing this lol. Just imagine, all the implications if Redtail and Brindleface were truly Sandstorm's parents... Ashfur being Squirrelflight's uncle (Yuck). Sandstorm being so cold-hearted as to not in the slightest, show any grief when they died. etc etc.

WHY DO I ADORE THESE TYPES OF VIDEOS PLEASE MAKE MORE MOONKITTI WE DESIRE YOUR OPINIONS ABOUT CATS And also I like hearing you ramble abt said cats

_I make _*_so many damn mistakes_*_ / in the clubs they call me _*_the book-to-book continuity of the warriors series storyline and major facts involved, often regarding the appearances, relationships, personalities, events, even actual lives, deaths and the utter existence of characters_* / [start of a rad guitar solo but I just break down crying 2 seconds in]

I personally think that dovewing has kaleidoscope eyes witch means that they change colour not that the colour matters

As someone who's hearing impaired, I need automated captions before I can enjoy the video.

In Bluestar’s prophecy Speckletail is WAAYY older than White-eye (One-eye)

They SERIOUSLY need to hire a consistency editor And it needs to be you

The one question I have that the series seems to have glossed over was Silverflame. In Tallstar's Revenge, Tallpaw notices the ShadowClan warriors exchange knowing and worried glances making Tallpaw wonder if there was something more to the "good news" of Silverflame expecting Yellowfang's mother.

I like listening to this while doing the dishes

I like the idea that all the mistakes and retcons in the Warriors series can be excused for alternate universes, and it would be even more epic if this concept was used in the books

these are my favorite videos because for some reason i obtain a lot of comfort from your voice

I don’t know if it’s really a Retcon but I always wondered about Goldenflower being Swiftkits mom. She barley morns him and we never hear about his father or if Goldenflower has a mate before Tigerclaw. I would wonder if she even told Brambleclaw and Tawnypelt about their dead brother...they certainly never refer to him as such.

They OBVIOUSLY changed thornclaw to mousewhisker because minnowtail also trained in the dark forest and they wanted to foreshadow a mousewhiskerXminnowtail romance.

tfw even a crumb of communication between authors/editors would solve 90% of warriors continuity errors

I didn't know some of these cats parents weren't official. Thanks ill remove sandstorm parent in my family tree. Your also right on it doesn't matter who's parents are who thank moonkitti.

Why I like Breezepelt: Honestly, it’s mostly because I related to him. I was angry, so, so angry about my life and I felt overlooked. I understood how Breeze felt, and in Crowfeather’s Trial when he became better, it gave me hope that things could change for me too. I also honestly just love characters that should be villains, but manage to pull themselves out of whatever struggle they are in and get better. Was it poorly written? Yes. Do I wish Breeze got a better redemption arc? Yes. However, i will always fondly remember Breezepelt for making me feel like things could change for me, and I will always love him for that.

I like to theorize that times in ThunderClan were so troubled that family relationships just sort of broke down, only to start uniting again once Firestar entered the picture, explaining why the apprentice and warrior generations didn't seem to have families or familial relationships of any kind. Sadly, Bluestar's Prophecy made it impossible for there to have been, say, a massive famine or plague that wiped out most families and cats in the clans, leaving only individuals...

ok but dustpelt was crushed about redtails death because he was his mentor but sandstorm was his daughter and she just kinda sat there lmfao

I love watching these longer rant videos. They're a good thing to have running in the background while writing

Thankyou for talking about Redtail's debt!!

Yessss this is amazing moon kitty! Keep up the great work!!

Speaking of parents, when Ravenpaw came back from from the fight where Redtail died, Golden flower rushed in frantic. It made me think he was her kit but the wiki says otherwise.

Great StarClan, Moonkitti, quarantine has your animation all sorts of messed up XD. Love y'all. 😂

Chubby Crowfeather...I did not know he existed....I need more of him...

You should make a playlist called “Moonkitti with an i as in i talk too much”

“Starclan cats look like when they were happiest in their life” Bro Jayfeather just wouldn’t exist at that point

When the art isn’t in her usual style, you know this will be a good rant. 👏👏

To add to the dovewing retcon: in Bramblestar's storm, on the SAME PAGE they say her eyes are blue than literally say in the next few sentences that its green. funny

Honestly, with the thing of cats having multiple mates (at least with background characters) is somewhat cannon. There was some dialogue in a book where two she-cats say something about being worried their mate is out fighting (and yes, they have the same mate. Both have litters around the same time. Thanks Shadowclan) But loyalty when it comes to romance in the series is only good for main characters, apparently lol. Actually, when it comes to family trees, where after the kits become apprentices, the mother almost never cares for them anymore, and the fathers almost never cared (of course in both cases, there are a few parents who do really care. Sometimes.) I find it weird that Firestar's bloodline is most important in the clan. Like, the cat's themselves actually care about Firestar's kids, and their kid's kids, and their kid's grandkids, ect. Like, it really makes no sense when, aside from a few parent/kit relationships, almost none of the relationships are important after 6 moons. But eh. It's whatever. The books are still pretty cool. I should really catch up on them though lol

Snowkit's sister magically disappeared after he *Cough cough spoilers cough cough* died and his mother became an elder. RIP Mistlekit

lots of moonkittis videos are stupid comedy, and then you watch these and you realize shes actually incredibly smart 👀

I love listening to Moonkitti talk makes me feel safe

This is what happens when multiple people work on the same book series.

Who else comments as soon as a video comes out in hopes that one day your favorite KZfaqr, Moonkitti, knows that you exists on this space rock or maybe you live on Mars who knows!

I like to think that if Crowfeather’s trial never happened, Breezepelt and Sol (and possibly sleekwhisker, depending on when it would happen) would team up and be a spicy villain team

Me, writing a Warriors fanfic: *Diving deep into the timeline, digging through the books to discover the season and timescale of all interconnected events* Warriors plotting team: When did that thing happen? Fuck it, just say it was a while ago.

Can't the authors like.. Do an RP, every person controlling a few Characters and then write a book but with more description of fights, hunting, territories and how does cats look...

I personally like Dovewing with yellow eyes (its not canon ofc) just because I think she looks good in them : )!

can we talk about how redtail's debt said absolutely nothing about sandstorm or brindleface

ok so I've just read the German translation of Redtail's Debt that was released last year and they actually fixed the Redtail retcon there: Oakheart dies of a rockfall just like he's supposed to. I've read this passage a few times because I was looking for the retcon and was irritated that I couldn't find it lmao. It's amazing tbh that the translators noticed it and took some creative freedom to change it.