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Can you stop breaking cheap knives and get to mass production on your ultralight knife already???🤣.... dude....CAN'T WAIT!!!!

I'll stick to my solar powered plasma cutter

In Sweden these knives are considered disposables pretty much. You buy them for less than five bucks, use them until they get dull and buy a new one. Kinda funny how they seem to be held to a much higher standard abroad.

Make a folder knife from the Mora blade you broken shud be nice one:)))

I usually use a log splitter when backpacking to split wood.

The 511 is made for people who do actual work and not for playing bushcraft on KZfaq. However, I abused a 511 once to process huge amounts of fatwood, with lots of twisted roots and knots and it held up incredibly well

I think you should keep do what you’re doing. Make a light weight knife that does what you want it to do.

Here in Sweden every carpenter use that knife. We don't use them very much for cutting in wood. Mostly to push wood into place like fasad boards or wooden deck boards. We bang on them with hammers all the time and break maybe 1-3 blades/year. What happened in this video was very surprising.

The basic is designed for....well... basic work. Thats why you get the mora robust. Its a little more... dare i say... robust then the basic. And great video. Im excited to see your final piece.

That's why they named it "basic". Very good knife when used as intended. Good video keep it up :)

Be interesting to see a Mora Companion heavy duty carbon version in that same situation.

Try the same tests with a Hultafors Craftsman's knife HVK. I have beaten the crap out of one for over two years. It has split many oak logs with knots in them, it is surprisingly durable.

I have a mora robust, I'm very new to mora knives, but I saw a video, of a guy trying to break the robust, and it wouldn't break, he was trying to break the tip and all sorts of things,

My Mora Companion still has a place in my pack. I can’t afford a lighter fixed blade knife that’s just as/more capable... That being said, great video!!!

Ok I made a question in other video about this knife breaking while battoning. I belive that the solution is not grabbing the hand grip tight and strongly once it gets into the log, but to hold it loosely so we let the steel resolves the vibrations or the tress that it stands while hitting the blade batoning... What do you think ?

Never stop test what you want I'll be here to enjoy. Thanks for the videos. Can't wait for the run of your knifes.

I've been loving this project. Can't wait to see the final knives

can you test the mora robust?

I'm with you 100% can't wait to see the final product. Thank you for the videos

That was sad😢. Great video though😁. Some really beautiful panning shots. I love all the comments about trying the stronger Moras. I foresee another video. Good content for a small price. Keep-um coming Alex👍🏼.

People that scream about “using the proper tool” probably don’t actually get outside very often. In my experience, using any tool that satisfactorily gets the job done is using “the proper tool” Using common sense is the key, and having a good time is the goal. If we were really “using the right tool” we’d all be carrying around froes, adzes, axes, hewing hatchets, sloyd knives, hand drills, etc. It would get ridiculous.

Awesome vid! I think you have the right idea! Keep at it brother!

I have a Mora Companion HD that I feel pretty comfortable batoning stuff up to 2" in diameter with, but only because of the blade thickness. I would never baton anything bigger than 1" with a 511 or a standard companion, but that's just me. Awesome video though, I love seeing larpy myths debunked.

I have a certain kind of love for the mora, but your results are about what I would have expected. Good video.

Got a few cheap moras in my kitchen... It's the best damn steak knife you'll ever find!

Congrats on 100k! You deserve it man

It's a light duty knife, and brilliant in that role.

I use a Mora to process my rabbits and cut open feed bags. It's a good cheap knife for light duty tasks. I was very impressed with the abuse the knife you made withstood.

Wow! That didn't take too long lol...point made. Keep the videos coming. Looking forward to seeing the end result of your light weight “ Grail Knife” . Cheers Mike.

Maybe I'll have to get an Alex Knife someday! 👍 My cheap Mora worked very good for three years and it did take a good beating. The only fail was when I lost it last summer backpacking. 😢 Thanks for the video! Now I'm not sure how much that I could really trust it except for the lighter work jobs.

Congrats on breaking the 100K ceiling! Next stop: a quarter million! 😲

Absolutely the most common use for mora I've had and seen is opening the plastic bag of sausages for bonfire at summer cabin or bonfire place and maybe some cooking cutting in the same places. The second could be making fire sticks. Maybe in the boat toolbox or something.

I just bought a mora. I won’t be beating on it. Thanks for the information.

Congrats on 100k!

do the same tests on some tougher moras I would love to see how strong they are!

Heyyy congrats to 100 000 subscribers!

Good information, nice to see. To be fair my little hatchet weights a whole 2lb and is great at driving pegs, pulling them back out, and of course you can always split wood with it. I have never tried to cross cut with a knife. Do you ever find you need to or was that just to test the knife.

If this is the only thing not to do with a Mora, I’m sold. Getting a couple today!

Okay you have a good sense of comedic timing and great editing skills.

On the one hand I agree with your results. On the other hand there is also yet another way, whittling a wooden wedge and beginning it after starting the split with just gentle batonning of the knife. Felix Immler made a vid of this using a 91mm Swiss Army knife. But in all fairness we'll never know if it took one knife or 3 broken ones.

Great video! I was surprised how quick the Mora broke.

so happy i found this channel!

If you intentionally break it yes. But for light batoning 511 can do just fine. I prefer machete batoning. I wouldnt do crazy things on my mora. I will still still subscribe to you though.

Great vids Alex! I've not been able to watch in a while, I'm glad to find you still doing good things! P.s., I'd still buy that knife lol! You know the one lol!

Have you tried the Frosts knives, nowadays a brand owned by Mora, marketed to the professional food industry. I haven't worked as a butcher in a long while, and I havent used any of them since they were an independent company (and also made carry knifes), but they used to be better than Mora (of Sweden, as the Mora company used to be called back then). At least before Frosts was bought by Mora, the Frost knifes had a much better construction than Mora knifes. Much more durable tang and blade (impossible to break, but could be bent, but I don't think batoning into wood provide enough force to do so, as bone, tooths and marrow is much harder than most woods). They were also lighter, much easier to sharpen/regrind or sharpen/polish (to make a dull knife sharper, usually you dont need to remove steel from the edge, if the knife is of the right softness/hardness, just polish it to straighten the bent edge (not chipped edge, as with the too hard steels that are currently popular)), and with an edge that doesn't chip and is soft enough to be easy to sharpen against most rocks, or your cast iron skillet, but hard enough to not get dull unless you cut into metal or quarts (sand and gravel), no special tools needed for sharpening. Try Frosts deboning or butcher knifes. They have the same shape as a classic Scandinavian carry knife (kike the popular Mora brand knifes), but are a bit longer than what those usual are. They don't come with the classic Scandinavian carry knife grinding (as the Mora brand has), but that's easy to do yourself (since a two planes edge is more durable than a one plane edge, when I worked as a butcher, I usually grinded the part, of the blade, nearest the handle into this shape, to be able to cut through bone and marrow, without having to regrind the blade more than about once a month (but polished several times a day), after tens if thousands of cuts through bones).

I carry a knife everyday. Different knives. I’ve watched probably 100+ knife videos. This is the first time someone has mentioned farming as a job needing a knife. Thank you. No more “ I use this knife for cutting cardboard boxes and opening mailings from Amazon”. Farming needs serious knives everyday.

I do not want to use an expensive knife in batoning. That is the idea of using a cheap one. Morakniv is a nice alternative. Good quality in a reasonable price.

Yo Alex, my brother.. my friend.. my GOOD friend... I thunk this was a knife makin, NOT a knife breakin channel????? 🤓 btw, congrats on 100,000+ subs!!!! 👏👍👍 ☆Jay☆

Congrats on 100k

About time you got back to making this series of videos

I really didn't expect the Mora to snap like that. I spent a week in the boundary waters with mine and batoned a lot of wood. Thinking back, it was mostly dead standing or fallen pines , but hey, at least it survived that. While I have retired the mora for a Benchmade, I always held the Mora in the "indestructible" category. Nowadays it's in my fishing pack and isn't used for much more than cutting bait and line, but hey, good to know I got lucky!

Another nice vid. Waiting for the 3V vid.

Funniest vid i have seen so far Alex!!! I was surprised that the mora was not a full tang.

Good video. Now I have a better idea of the limits of my Mora Basic

Love my 511s; simple, slicey and cheap, great for carving and camp work. I just dont love it enough to beat the living shit out of it, now I know why.

Anyone who bashes the mora for breaking while batoning is just upset that you can buy a quality knife for 10 dollars. I own several expensive bucks and benchmades and spydercos and i hate to use them hard. Not that they couldnt take it but theyre over 100 dollars each. I wouldnt take a baton to a benjamin and i dont really wanna take one to my expensive knives either. For what the mora is made for (light bushcraft, camp work, slicing things) it is an excellent knife. Specifically because its cheap and you dont need to worry about rolling a blade or damaging it. People dont love moras because theyre better than your 200 dollar s30v knife, they love them because they excel at what theyre meant to do, theyre easy as hell to sharpen, theyre cheap and eliminate the worry of damaging an expensive blade, and theyre wonderful to use. In fact i use my mora in the woods alot more than i do my expensive knives for that exact reason

I’m hoping to see “the ultimate “ with carbon fiber scales. But really I’m just enjoying your videos keep em coming

You have the skills and knowledge to make the tool to fit your needs. Everyone saying "stick to the Mora Basic" are just that...basic. I've never seen what's under a Mora handle. It looks like the tang broke, but how much of it? Or did only the handle break?

Love the content 💪. Mora basic costs 4 dollar where I live . We use it for everything you don't want to damage your nice knife on 😉

I've had a companion for ten years, snapped the tip off at some point, but I've used it for battoning every campfire or BBQ we've had in that time, decent knife. Was considering buying a few mora basics to build new handles but there's obviously a reason they're so so cheap.

I knew it, that knife broke instantly. Well, it is mora basic. It's supposed to be use for basic work. By the way great video, I enjoyed it.

They had this new thing called a hatchet, much lighter than an axe. I've seen two high dollar knives break when battoning. Using my knife in a way that might break it seems silly, I'll carry a small hatchet.

Love your lightweight knife its something ive been after for a while. You got to put it out there for sale.

My basic did see a bit of wood (hard and soft), leather, cardboard, chocolate, nuts, plastic bags, sowing yarn and dried meat. Though I only went as far as helping it with my thumb on hard wood, not beating it with a cudgel. With the work that I put into little modifications like a hand ground spine, leather strop on the sheath and a tiny oily leather cloth that I throw in the sheath, I became too attached to it, to abuse it.

Pretty cool man👍

Whilst I am a huge fan of MORAKNIV of which I have a few... They are mass produced to accommodate the low budget end of the scale. They are good knives, but I think the point of your video is to demonstrate that you should not expect too much from a budget knife if you intend to give it real abuse in the field and I agree with you very much on this point. Mora are comfortable, practical and capable knives to the limits that they were designed for. If you really want to beat on a MORAKNIV though, you should look to purchase the top end of the scale such as a GARBERG which is full tang, very capable and have a lifetime guarantee... which usually doesn't come with a knife unless the manufacturer has some real faith in it. Keep the video's coming they are always interesting, sometimes informative such as this one and always entertaining :-)

I like to bring my entire wood shop in the back of my Ford f550 lariat super duty that a custom built for carrying it. Makes for a great lightweight backpacking companion

Very thoughtful

Imagine if that caught his bare hand. Might have needed stitches. Good, safe experiment!

I baton my Seal Pup Elite all the time, and it takes the abuse like a good little knife should. I realize it is full tang compared to the mora basic, but it does also sport a nylon handle, so I would say it is comparable.

@Outdoors55 i wanted to ask you something, because you're a really good freehand sharpener - i remember reading one time, that even a 90-degree right-angle edge can cut you if it's sufficiently honed. i'm not sure what to think about that statement and unfortunately can't remember where i encountered it - but i'd be very interested to see if it's true.

A hatchet is good for splitting wood while bushcrafting. Its lighter than an axe too. Kind of what its ment for...also wouldnt baton with a rat tail knife. Full tangs are more designated for that along with a hatchet.

Great video

Ok, the Mora Basic is quite... eh... Basic, basically. Luckily they came up with the Garberg. Which is also rather light for a full tang knife. Try to break one of those! Haha! The electronic saw scene made me nearly spill my cereals! Haha! Well done sir!

I think the Mora basic is good but the "best" tool to carry if you need to do some light chopping or batoning, is probably a jakaripuukko or something like that, maybe even an Eafengrow they are making solid things.

Gotta love people who hardly use their knives at all telling you the brand they use is built like a tank.

congrats for 100k.

Well, to be fair the Mora Basic is called basic for a reason. That said, a good solid bushcraft knife will withstand light batoning without any problem, even an inexpensive one. I have an EF fixed blade in 14c28n and it seems to be as tough as they come.

I agree with the axe, knife, and saw points 100% I even find myself using a knife more even if I have a hatchet on hand.

Impressive comparison. I think it's important to know the limits of the tools you rely upon. I beat the living hell out of every knife I forge before it leaves the shop. If it's going to fail, I want it to fail on me, not its owner. But, I also think it's also important to be reasonable with tools, given what they're meant to accomplish. Moras are great little knives that can stand up to most bushcraft tasks if used properly. You proved that a Mora can handle batoning if the user does so correctly, along the grain of the wood. It was when you deliberately abused it by cutting cross-grain that it understandably failed. Nothing wrong with doing so to prove a point, regardless of what the butthurt fanboys say. It's just worth recognizing the difference between realistic use and deliberate abuse,when it comes to quantifying tool durability, and I think you did a great job with that here.

That was *GREAT*! :)) And this gave me an idea for a video request: How important is blade width (not thickness)? I know it'll improve stiffness, but the vertical stiffness (which is basically all you need for batonning) is only influenced by so much. So how narrow can you make a blade while still keeping it batonnable? (we're creating some monstrous new words here, hahaha) And how does a more narrow blade impact the other uses and comfort (not talking about the psychological aspect, because yea, beefy looks cooler, but we're aiming for functionality here, right?)

I've used my 511 to baton plenty of times with zero issues.

That Mora sure did break sooner than I expected. But I don't like the new handles anyway. I like the old ones with solid plastic handles. Still they are lightweight knives for food prep and light tasks. A one stick fire is possible but batoning logs or going cross grain is not recommended. I totally get you want to design this one tool lightweight option for hikers. How much more weight would it be if you tapered the tang instead of the cutouts (skeletonization). The tapered tang will be a lot stronger! The skeletonized handle is often as strong as one side of the handle. It's like stacking up bricks. You break the first and the rest (or at least some) will break to. Maybe do a combination of small cutouts (drilling holes) and tapering?

Dude, you're awesome.

to the whiners complaining about expensive knives vrs mora basic stuff. Just get a Mora bushcraft knife if you want to baton. personally I think batoning is stupid, but not for the same reasons. trees actually grow thinner stuff...And fire does burn thick stuff too. So just get the right resources...might actually make a video on that myself.

Personally when I'm in the mountains on my four wheeler I have a fixed blade knife that is full tang and I keep it as sharp as humanly possible and I always have another larger fixed blade knife or my hatchet and/or a small folding saw.

A lot of companies make lightweight axes and hatchets. Doesn’t matter though, battoning is almost never even necessary when camping. Kinda just a trend right now.

I carry and use 4 different knives at 4 different times. General use = Heretic Manticore X. Opens with a solid pop, cuts everything you need it to within reason. Ive shaved a few branches with it as well. I wouldnt baton with it since its a OTF, but its one of the strongest OTFs on the market. Its a solid defensive knife if needed. Work knife box opener= Microtech UTX-70. It fits very comfortably into my shirt breast pocket. Very light, dont even know its there. Pops open every time, cuts open any box I need it to and have shaved many items with it. Multi-tool = Leatherman Wave. nuf said. Outdoor Knife = Camillus Pilot Survival.

At the same time I need to ask. What would be the selling price of "The Ultimate knife"? You tend to get what you pay fore I would be interested in seeing the stronger knife go up against something that would be considered similar.

In fairness, the 511 isn't really an outdoors knife. Other moras are suited for that and still cheap. A small splitting wedge would probably be fine over a knife.

Good point.

How is the new shop coming along?

I bet that if put a lot of adjacent holes into your 1084 knife (except for the edge of course) arranged in a hive-like structure, if won’t be able to break it like the previous ones

Have you seen the coast crew chief fixed blade it's 10 bucks I think it would be better for batoning it thick full tang it's softer steel but that means it probably not as brittle you just have to sharpen it more often

Test both the TD004 and the TD005, I think they might work as well as the knives you made for batoning

I think people discount the amount of additional effort there is in actually wailing on a small knife like this to split or poorly chop and only go for weight... In my back packing kits (which of course won't work for all) I carry a small hatchet, folding saw, and spydie. I think I'd rather carry the additional 2 lbs in my kit for a few days but fire prep is a big deal in my location.

Idk if I’m just weird but I usually baton with a knife when by a fire and wanna make kindling out of wood I’ve already split

suggestion: a Mora 2000 is little heavier, but made for the Swedish defence forces around the year 2000.

Great video. Really liked this one it really showed your talents as a video maker an creator. Bravo very well done. I'd subscribe again if I could.