Moral Panics : A History of Insidious Fear-Mongering

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What even is a moral panic? It's essentially fear-mongering and conspiracism about a supposed cultural threat that's ultimately overblown or outright false. Culture, as in the customs and habits of a particular group of population, resides in its adherents, so this is people trying to protect their culture. But as we'll see, there's always ulterior motives. Typically, it revolves around halting things children are doing or something that may affect children because they are the next generation - that which transmits culture into the future. The key factor is that these reactions are disproportionate to the threat, if not an outright lie. So while they may be used as a political tactic in the ever-ebbing culture war, moral panics as a whole have a much wider history to it than that. There's a pattern to them and they're well studied. As such, there's a long history to them. So I made this episode in the hope that you can learn and be better prepared to identify them in the future.
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Bibliography
William J. Bernstein, The Delusions of Crowds: Why People Go Mad in Groups (New York: Atlantic Monthly Press, 2021). amzn.to/3NCaLqi
Joel Best, Threatened Children: Rhetoric and Concern about Child-Victims (Chicago: University Of Chicago Press, 1990). amzn.to/3WayL7H
Colin Dickey, Under the Eye of Power: How Fear of Secret Societies Shapes American Democracy (New York: Viking, 2023). amzn.to/4b3p2a9
Erich Goode and Nachman Ben-Yehuda, Moral Panics: The Social Construction of Deviance, 2nd ed. (1994; New York: Wiley-Blackwell, 2009). amzn.to/3OqjpbD
Marjorie Heins, Not in Front of the Children: “Indecency,” Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth (New Brunswick, NJ: Rutgers University Press, 2007). amzn.to/3pGi2gc
David Hajdu, The Ten-Cent Plague: The Great Comic-Book Scare and How It Changed America (New York: Farrar Straus and Giroux, 2008). amzn.to/2Zukolt
Karen Leick, Parents, Media, and Panic through the Years: Kids Those Days (London: Palgrave Macmillan, 2019). amzn.to/3rYzIVJ
Kyle Riismandel, Neighborhood of Fear: The Suburban Crisis in American Culture, 1975-2001 (Baltimore, MD: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2020), ebook. amzn.to/3pRUntu
Mark Stein, American Panic: A History of Who Scares Us and Why (New York: Palgrave Macmillan, 2014). amzn.to/3YoCgII
Karen Sternheimer, Pop Culture Panics: How Moral Crusaders Construct Meanings of Deviance and Delinquency (New York: Routledge, 2015). amzn.to/3KucTQ7
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Wiki: A moral panic is a widespread feeling of fear, often an irrational one, that some evil person or thing threatens the values, interests, or well-being of a community or society. It is "the process of arousing social concern over an issue", usually perpetuated by moral entrepreneurs and mass media coverage, and exacerbated by politicians and lawmakers. Moral panic can give rise to new laws aimed at controlling the community.
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Chapters
0:00 vignette
0:28 intro
2:45 patronage
3:12 What is a Moral Panic
11:53 Origins of Folk Devils
21:53 Secret Societies
27:49 Immigration
32:45 Mediums
41:08 Backlashes
58:45 conclusion
1:04:47 Outtakes

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@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

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@mikhailthetenor3387 Ай бұрын

Why are you not more leaning conservative? You certainly look the type as a marine veteran especially. Why are you so Americans so freaking unstable like nuclear fission or fusion on both sides? "Americans and many Westerners are the craziest people." How in the hell you still run the world?

@mikhailthetenor3387 Ай бұрын

How liberal are you? Because Liberalism sometimes may lead to anarchy and debauchery if there are no checks and balances to it whatsoever. And I do believe that Leftist Liberalism is going too far and I'm a Russian-Ukrainian-Jewish Brooklynite New Yorker American, and I can't stand the idea of any society turning LGBTQ and more Trans-peeps, they are sickly icky abominations of humanity to me, and the result will be more Muslims left on planet Earth of any nationality, because most of them never feel that way, as well as Orthodox Jews, come to my side of Brooklyn and you'll see.

@rct3LP Ай бұрын

@@mikhailthetenor3387did you have a stroke writing this? Because I had one reading it.

@mikhailthetenor3387 Ай бұрын

No I most certainly did not. Well sorry to hear that for you.

@mikhailthetenor3387 Ай бұрын

@@rct3LP And come on, don't overreact, I don't even remember what I exactly said from last night, that was so offensive.

@niceguyeddie5036 Ай бұрын

As a dungeons and dragons playing, heavy metal fan in the 80's, I learned at a very young age that most adults are gullible and stupid. I'm 50 now and that judgment hasn't changed.

@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

Sadly, wisdom does not necessarily come with adulthood. If anything, the wisest thing is to realize how gullible we all are, or as Socrates said, "I am wise only in knowing that I know nothing."

@MichaelNelsonxxx 25 күн бұрын

100%

@EmmaKing30 Ай бұрын

Watching from Uganda where the parliament just passed an anti-homosexuality bill into law because they are "protecting the children" lol

@daemonspudguy Ай бұрын

On behalf of the US, I'd like to apologize for how we have exported a lot of our crazy evangelist bullshit to Uganda.

@randomchannel-px6ho Ай бұрын

@michaelirwin6137 The United States exported biology? You're aware same sex attraction and intercourse is not unique to humans right? Gtfo

@Pensnmusic Ай бұрын

@@michaelirwin6137*checks profile* Bro why is the first thing I see a 110 video list about "new astrology" and how does that inform your (definitely not at all fascist...) belief that gayness is a social contagion?

@Pensnmusic Ай бұрын

@@michaelirwin6137oh my god... one of the playlists is "the good jew" Brother. Wtf? I hope you have good healthcare, access to a therapist, and a healthy support structure.

@SincerelyFromStephen Ай бұрын

@@michaelirwin6137 go out and take a walk or something

@iammrbeat Ай бұрын

It's sad how afraid so many people are. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to live your life in constant fear.

@jdgarcia4767 Ай бұрын

There so easy to fall for so many people, they need to know how to spot them so won't be so afraid.

@yulikitten Ай бұрын

Try living as a trans woman. Then you'll know constant fear

@randomchannel-px6ho Ай бұрын

Also, please be aware of social media bubbles. The algorithms are highly targeted to give you WHAT YOU WANT. And ask yourself how many life lessons you've learned from just having been right about everything the whole time. Nothing it more valuable than knowing what we don't know. We learn from being wrong and addressing that. Social media algorithms do exactly the opposite. And worse still they create an illusion of consensus that triggers group think and all of the vulnerabilities that causes in our psyches. Basically, put down the phone and touch grass. As a child of the information age, I am very scared of how the internet has consolidated and how information is controlled and censored by big corporations. We are at a very dangerous precipice which is eerily similar to Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, and we're just accepting this with open arms... I'm both excited and extremely concerned for humanities future

@garrettmetting6938 Ай бұрын

My attorney general Ken Paxton of Texas has stated if given the opportunity he would enforce anti sodomy laws. As someone who is bi I feel like my fear is justified.

@randomchannel-px6ho Ай бұрын

Oh hey youtube shawdow deleting my comments talking about how I'm afraid of social media bubbles and monopolistic control of what information people view online cool...

@jeffm9770 Ай бұрын

I've actually had people tell me that Catholics aren't Christians and I never knew where that came from until now.

@kellychuang8373 Ай бұрын

It's really getting insane now.

@theboyisnotright6312 Ай бұрын

Went out with a Catholic girl for awhile. I went to mass with her couple times. I enjoyed it, seemed more formal then the Methodist Church I went to as a kid😊. I couldn't take communion but I enjoyed it.

@jeffm9770 Ай бұрын

@@theboyisnotright6312 I used to go with my wife sometimes

@notachair4757 20 күн бұрын

That's exceedingly unhinged Like, *how* do you even convince someone of that?

@theboyisnotright6312 20 күн бұрын

@@notachair4757 the same people that believe Jews run the USA, and that all the missing kids are kidnapped by Jews that eat them or something.

@jayfrank1913 Ай бұрын

The Satanic Panic came to East Wenatchee, WA, in the 90's where several adult day care workers were jailed for years over claims that they committed Satanic ritual child SA in the basement of the building the day care was located in. The building did not have a basement, but authorities were so convinced that they demolished the building and dug up the dirt under the foundation. Nothing was found, of course, and the charges were eventually dropped, but not after ruining people's lives. It's amazing what children will say when asked leading questions by "therapists." Some of these children described the ritual consumption of babies and despite the fact no babies were missing, the authorities believed them.

@Kurorahk Ай бұрын

Wild how the modern moral panic started with the same idea in the 2010's but with a pizza parlor's basement in DC that didn't have a basement and was just popular with members of Congress. And as for those therapists, it is funny how the right will rail against mental health professionals until they're useful to their cause. Which shouldn't be surprising.

@erinmcdonald7781 Ай бұрын

Children have vivid imaginations and can tell fantastical tales with little prompting. Having adults engage with them in that sphere with leading questions was a recipe for disaster. I also know of a case where a teen accused her parents of abuse because she was angry with them. It cost her family everything. She would call her mom at the shelter and ask her to get her from foster care, but mom would have to explain that what was done was done. Everyone in their family learned that harsh lesson. I'm not saying abuse doesn't happen. From what I've seen, it's a hard reality for too many kids. It would be awesome if our society could get away from the social dynamics of power and violence.

@tom4ivo 27 күн бұрын

@@erinmcdonald7781 The children in the 80s and 90s all denied being abused. The police, the therapists, and even the parents kept telling the children that they had indeed been abused by the suspects, and after 6-12 months of pressure, a few changed their story. Interestingly enough, the child who started all this, whose mother had gone to the police with claims that he was showing signs of being abused, never cracked and was left out of the trial. Turns out his mother suffered from Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy.

@Craigerry Ай бұрын

i asked my grandparents about the xenophobia their parents had suffered, as immigrating Poles and Germans, asking about what language was spoken at home. My grandparents said that only English was spoken to the kids and they never learned the native language of their parents for fear of the kids being discriminated. My grandpa said they would only speak Polish to each other and not the kids.

@RemnantCult Ай бұрын

My mother was Mexican. I once asked her why she never taught me Spanish, the language half my family speaks, and she said she didn't want me to be seen as less American as other kids. I think she meant that she didn't want me to be discriminated, like the discrimination she faced growing up in the deep south.

@The0Stroy Ай бұрын

@@RemnantCult Those people... They can't understand the difference between knowing language and speaking it? Like learning one language will wipe out another one?

@theboyisnotright6312 Ай бұрын

33:56 I understand I guess. My grandpa would cuss us kids out in Norwegian when he got mad. He was born in Norway and came to America when he was 4-5. He told me he would go to school and then at night he taught his parents English.

@nigeh5326 Ай бұрын

Left school in 1980 in Britain and was a heavy rocker and biker. We were always seen as troublemakers as were skinheads, Mids, Punks and others. In reality we were just teenagers enjoying our youth before we settled into lives of going to work marrying having kids and getting into debt. Quadrophenia was a great film in its time and had great music from the Who. Now I’m 60 and still a heavy rocker at heart just with Arthritis and grey hair 😊 Rock on Cypher 👍

@michaelhorn6029 Ай бұрын

This was one of the first recognized examples of a moral panic.

@opinion3742 Ай бұрын

@@michaelhorn6029 When was it recognized?

@peterthegreat996 Ай бұрын

Are you a mod or a rocker? Neither , I’m a mocker.

@nigeh5326 Ай бұрын

@@peterthegreat996 John Lennon

@thomaskauser8978 Ай бұрын

out of our brain on the train

@HeyThatsInteresting97 Ай бұрын

Very cool that you declined Magellan TV on principle. I also love that you told us the dollar amount you turned down. You’re so transparent it’s hard not to form an awesome parasocial friendship with you. You don’t know me, but I know you, Cypher. And you’re one of the greats up there with Mr Beat and the Brothers Green

@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

Thank you, but always be wary of parasocial relationships

@HeyThatsInteresting97 Ай бұрын

@@CynicalHistorian haha of course, perhaps the self-awareness I was trying to imbue in my comment was a bit lacking. In any case, great documentary today. I earned my BA in Hist back in ‘22. This fall I’ll be beginning my masters program and I want to make video-documentaries like this one as soon as I can. I’ve actually been wanting to get started making history videos for several years now, like 6 years. Other than just starting the damn thing already, do you have any advice for getting started as a History Tuber? Or any direction you might point me in? I’ve admired your work for years now and I really want to get started taking this whole thing seriously. Thanks!

@a.p.2019 Ай бұрын

@@CynicalHistorianThe fact you'd remind an admitted admirer of this is exactly why you are the kind of historian that this generation needs (and would've been wicked helpful in past generations #WILSOOOOOON!) ❤ Thank you for your incredible work.

@MatthewTheWanderer Ай бұрын

I find this kind of principled stance to be very impressive. It's very rare to find any kind of KZfaqr who won't give in to sponsors or KZfaq's monetization policies. I'm so sick of other KZfaqrs who censor their own videos and claim they can't say certain words or talk about certain topics when the reality is that they totally CAN say those words and talk about those topics, but they are just greedy. I aspire to also be principled in this way and not censor myself on my channel. I don't get enough views to be monetized yet, but someday, if I am, I will not give in.

@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

@@HeyThatsInteresting97 didn't see your reply at first. My general advice for aspiring HistoryTubers is to simply get started. You'll figure it out along the way, so long as you've got the passion for it

@herkles5416 Ай бұрын

I am not sure that the original Luddites count as a moral panic per say. That is how they are often portrayed, but the thing about the Luddites was that they weren't against the technology itself but about how the new factory owners were treating their workers and the pay that they were recieving. The destruction of the looms was a form of political sabotage to make a point that without the weavers they wouldn't have profits. from what I remember reading, they actually would have stated demands that they would mail to people. Its just that their actions of sabatoge got them tarred as being technophhobes.

@michaelhorn6029 Ай бұрын

I see how they could fit the definition of a moral panic but within their lifetimes the situation did get bad. A person who went from home production to factory work would have seen declining work conditions and a loss of housing plus other resources.

@starmaker75 Ай бұрын

Given the industrial revolution might have given us better living standards in a way, however it also gives worse climate change, more deadly warfare, etc. also given the new "lords and baron" coming from the industrial revolutions, you can't blame luddites for being skeptic on the "progress" of technology.

@jeffersonclippership2588 Ай бұрын

@@starmaker75Also, better living standards are starting to be reversed as a result of capitalists always needing more money. It's basically a given in the industrialized world now that young people will have a worse standard of living than their parents and grandparents because the cost of living has grown, wages remain stagnant, and organized labor has been severely weakened.

@josenavarro6897 Ай бұрын

absolutely agreed, the "luddites were just peasants who smashed machines because they hated technology" angle has been pretty broken down in academic circles as the framing industrialists and liberals (as in the party) used. a little sad to see it repeated here, but one can't research everything and it's still an interesting video.

@toddm5240 Ай бұрын

Yes. That was the one example that gave me pause. The Luddites were correct. The problem isn't technology in itself. The problem is exploitation under capitalism. New technology is not used to make workers' lives better, but to increase profits and reduce the number of workers needed for production. It's interesting to see such a glaring mistake, or at least, what seems to be a glaring mistake. I'd like to hear more about how the Luddites were reactionary.

@jesseberg3271 Ай бұрын

I'm only talking about my own experience here, but regarding the concept of an Alt-right Pipeline, I never encountered the idea that it was a deliberate conspiracy, only that it was an unintended consequences of algorithms picking content without adequate conscious human input. So would concern about how algorithms are effecting "the youth" (although again, in my experience, most of the people concerned about it were in their teens or twenties themselves) still be a moral panic, absent an accusation of conspiracy?

@grahamrich9956 Ай бұрын

This was my understanding of it too

@mr.dirtydan3338 Ай бұрын

The problem with the idea of moral panic is that the things that are accused of causing it aren't really causing the societal ills they claim it does. But the alt right pipeline undeniable causes moral issues in youth, objectively.

@irinaiturri Ай бұрын

@@mr.dirtydan3338 I would include the old people in this pipeline too

@undeadfrak Ай бұрын

It was definitely a thing; less of a conspiracy and more of a few bad actors using social media to push young (and old) people towards Alt-right beliefs. I would argue that it isn't a moral panic since some of the people who have fallen down this pipeline have gone on to do mass shootings. This isn't about the morals of children being degraded, but instead is a group of people actively trying to inspire people to commit violence.

@RevShifty Ай бұрын

For that matter, the "alt Right" itself doesn't exist. It was just the exact same bog standard white nationalism we've had in this country for almost a century already, just with some of the edges rounded off to trick the especially stupid and to give mainstream media the chance to discuss it during primetime without getting too much push back. Spencer himself said as much all the way back in 2011. Call it for what it is. All that "alt Right" nonsense does is give them the exact cover they wanted in the first place. It's just lipstick on a pig, everyone else should quit playing along and pretending it's a beauty queen.

@SincerelyFromStephen Ай бұрын

Chris Rufo fully admitted that his goal is to create what are essentially moral panics to hurt any kind movements, groups, or ideas that go against his far right beliefs.

@someshittomakeyouhappy Ай бұрын

I knew Chris and worked with him on this GARBAGE and can 100% confirm this

@nicholasevangelos5443 Ай бұрын

I don't know if the Easter Day moral panic (about the incidental "Day of Trans Visibility" held on March 31st) is one of his jobs, but the campaign is now aiming to present a new manufactured outrage every day.

@nuke___8876 Ай бұрын

What's interesting about him is he just outright says it. Normally the profiteers have to feign sincerity or else they would (rightfully) be seen as profiteers. To me, that's actually way more interesting than all the bullshit he says because, as the video shows, we've seen this crap a billion times before. Someone should look into why he's able to say the quiet part out loud and get away with it. My gut says it's simply that most of the believers don't know that he's an admitted profiteer but that's because I'm an optimist. The back of my mind says that the people that have drunk the kool-aid simply don't care that he's an admitted liar.

@someshittomakeyouhappy Ай бұрын

@@nuke___8876 people just don’t care to see it. And all those involved behind the scenes are totally fine grifting false views to the masses

@JohnSmith-bt7mz Ай бұрын

Do you have any citation to back it up? 🤔

@batman5224 Ай бұрын

Censorship often comes in the form of limiting the freedom of adults because parents won’t watch their children. In modern times, this comes in the form of blaming a website because a kid is looking at something not meant for them online. Instead of blaming the parents, people blame the website, the movie, the book, the TV station, and so on. Now, an entire social media app might be banned because of it. It’s all about not taking responsibility.

@randomchannel-px6ho Ай бұрын

I'm afraid of how censored big tech owned platforms are, I tried to leave a reply to Mr beat and it keeps disappearing, and I know what I said wasn't something Cipher would delete, and definitely not instaneously so...

@jordanwhite8718 Ай бұрын

It’s almost a zip the real moral panic. We should be worrying about is bad parenting.

@notNajimi Ай бұрын

@@randomchannel-px6hoKZfaq spam and language filters are ridiculously overzealous, it sucks

@WithoutFear804 Ай бұрын

That's not even the reason why they are banning tiktok. I mean think about it. Tiktok doesn't even allow nudity and there are kids on twitter where literal gore is shown. They aren't banning that lol. It's of my belief that they're banning tiktok because of the genocide in Gaza. Out of all platforms I've never seen more support than on tiktok, literally millions of likes and it was super helpful in causing mass boycotts. The supreme Court will say it's because of China. But yet we can still use other Chinese backed applications? I could be wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if I was right.

@TheShadowChesireCat Ай бұрын

I mean, even a lot of bad parenting is related to being time poor, having not enough resources (and I don't just mean financial) and being very exhausted. There are kids who are definitely hard to parent, whether that's just as a result of neurology, trauma, or parents just genuinely not being able to deal with them. But plenty of bad parents have issues that are caused by the struggle to survive, sometimes in failing bodies, failing minds (and etc), plus not having the resources to be able to change behaviours (like not being in tune emotionally to one's self to reflect on their behaviour, as an example of non-financial resources I'm talking about). I say that as a "folk devil" who was a neglected child and has worked with kids in childcare and extracurricular activities (Brownies/Girl Scout leadership).

@daemonspudguy Ай бұрын

Frank Zappa's testimony to Congress during the Parents Music Resource Center mess has been released as an album. It's well worth a listen. He completely dismantles all the bullshit Tipper Gore kept yelling about.

@notNajimi Ай бұрын

I don’t fully agree with Zappa’s views on politics and society, but the dude for sure had his eyes wide open.

@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Ай бұрын

@@notNajimiwhich visions? Genuine question, I know barely anything about Zappa aside from his stuff with The Mothers of Invention

@aspie-anarchist9854 Ай бұрын

@@notNajimihi fellow enby im curious too. Good faith question promise. Just wondering im not super informed on his beliefs but I liked what I heard so im wondering if he believed something dumb.

@aspie-anarchist9854 Ай бұрын

@@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303he was pro capitalism and kind of a conservative.

@aspie-anarchist9854 Ай бұрын

woaaah he was a fucking conservative!? But registered as democrat!? His beliefs are all over rhe place. But I'll give him credit for at least thinking for himself he didn't tow a party line, sycophantly worship one person or fall in line.

@captaindregg640 Ай бұрын

This video, along with your video on the history of racism and your series on political polarization, are among my favorites on this platform. You're doing great work dude, and important work at that.

@lady_draguliana784 Ай бұрын

26:00 It's worth noting that Rich and Powerful private citizens often have plutocratic leanings. You'll note that monarchs overthrown in revolutions led by rich folk are often just replaced by those rich folk as the de facto monarchs of the nation. "You can't be king, you don't have royal blood!" -every royal ever "Fine, I'll just kill everyone with 'royal blood' so it won't matter anyway" -every autocrat that ever violently overthrew a king/czar/emperor etc.

@histogamer2018 Ай бұрын

I highly recommend The Ten Cent Plague. The 50's and 60's comics' scare doesn't get enough attention.

@theshenpartei Ай бұрын

I might check it out and I read two other books that talks about the comic scare how it affected the industry first one is marvel comics the untold story which goes into marvel’s history and does a chapter into the comic code authority and the other one being Larry tye’s superman book and it mentions how that scare affected the character.

@theshenpartei Ай бұрын

Also as for the fate of the comics code authority lasted until 2011.

@forgerelli1 Ай бұрын

@@theshenpartei The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, an anti censorship charity, now owns the Comics Code Authority logo. They raise money selling shirts and things, so in a way the Comics Code Authority now fights censorship.

@mito88 Ай бұрын

and reefer madness, the apex of fear mongering.

@lawrenceharrington3180 Ай бұрын

I know... I'm 64, I read comic magazine's... Remember "Mad" magazine... One of my favorite comics magazine was "Weird War Stories" there was a lot of prejudice in those stories... {Japs, Commies and Nazi} lucky for me and my two sisters, my parents rised us to not be prejudice against anyone... That includes all the people of the world!!!

@jacobosburne2282 Ай бұрын

I grew up in a family with a family mother over my mom that wanted us to be fearful towards everything, and be fearful thinking as well and has mentally scarred me for my life to a point that I can’t get one now, and I wish people like my grandmother wasn’t fearful at all and I blame her for my life because of what fearful thinking has done to her as a whole; the things that fearful thinking does is evil of it’s own

@azazel166 Ай бұрын

Greek here, Greek immigrants in the US were called "dirty rats", and there was a riot in Nebraska.

@sithlord5149 Ай бұрын

What was it called?

@azazel166 Ай бұрын

Greektown riot.

@jgs1122 Ай бұрын

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." H. L. Mencken

@seanhill99 Ай бұрын

50:49 Respect the hell out of Cy’s response to Magellan. The *existence* of queer people isn’t a content matter - it’s recognizing people for who they are and how they experienced the world.

@grmpEqweer Ай бұрын

@@brandonwilliams6221 "Everyone's experience is not worth caring about." But I'm guessing you think *your* experience is worth caring about? Very important, right? ...Or are you just saying LGBTQ _people_ aren't worth caring about, without actually saying that directly? ...You are obviously the moral arbiter we must all bow to, the ruler of who actually matters. My experience, and the experience of other LGBTQ people, isn't worthy of attention, by your lordship's decree.

@jonathonrobinson6081 Ай бұрын

@@brandonwilliams6221Why care? It's called empathy.

@dawoifee Ай бұрын

@@brandonwilliams6221 Sure. Except for queer people in my Family and circle of Friends I do care little, but in general I want as many people as happy as possible. Also for future Generations. How would I want my kids to experience the world, my grand kids. What if any of them is LGBTQ+? They should live a life as fulfilled as possible. While I can not possible care for every individual out there, I can care for those who are close to me, those who might be close to me in the future.

@alancranford3398 Ай бұрын

I run for cover when a politician screeches "SAVE THE CHILDREN!" This moral panic works because only a soulless monster would fail to check their brains when this hot button is smashed in.

@Milimeteypetey Ай бұрын

10:43 I don’t think most were arguing youtube was intentionally pushing people to the far right, rather it was enticing to young people meaning they watch more and KZfaq gets more ad revenue. It was the pursuit of profits that made them turn a blind eye to radicalization.

@Pikachu2Ash Ай бұрын

citation needed..

@Milimeteypetey Ай бұрын

@@Pikachu2Ash Behind the Bastards did a episode on it. KZfaq realsed a press statement and affidavits from former employees.

@sithlord5149 Ай бұрын

No the left pushes people to the far right by redefining what makes you far right

@CynthiaMcG Ай бұрын

Back in 2012, I went to Colorado for graduation from an online degree program. I shared a hostel room with one of the researchers who studied violence and video games, which she shared while I played a hero character on DCUO. I doubt she ever changed her mind on the topic.

@Kurorahk Ай бұрын

Thank you for taking your stance against Magellan TV's sponsorship on part of their kneeling to bigotry, I say this as a transgal who loves your work and is happy to have found more honest historians and anthropologists who don't take the easy money of hate to make it big.

@LilFeralGangrel Ай бұрын

I highly disagree that the attacks on textile industries by "Luddites" was a 'moral panic'. It was a worker's revolt.

@Pikachu2Ash Ай бұрын

If you disagree check the sources and provide your own counter sources.

@MisterTutor2010 Ай бұрын

The Immortal Words of Socrates: I drank what? :)

@phoenixshadow6633 Ай бұрын

I expected Crucible references and was not let down. I saw the Cynical Historian with the devil! I saw King Richard with the devil! I saw the devil with the devil! That last one just means I need glasses.

@loner1878 Ай бұрын

Its really disgusting to hide behind children as a shield for bigotry.

@starmaker75 Ай бұрын

I think with history of moral panics shows that time is a dumb circle sometimes.

@ketsuekikumori9145 Ай бұрын

"Kids these days are terrible! Social media [...] warps their minds." You could say the same thing about some adults.

@lady_draguliana784 Ай бұрын

regarding the nefarious ulterior motives of demagogues that fuel moral panics, I'd like to paraphrase (b/c I can't find it atm) a speech by a minor villain (heavily coded as a Grand Wizard of the KKK) from Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time: "Do you know how to seize power in a village? You release a rabid lion in the square. You let it work the villagers into a panic. Then you appear, and say "I am the only one who can save you, just do as I say and you will be safe" and you give an order; and when it's followed, you give an other. And after you kill the Lion, you give an other order: and it will be followed."

@stefanneaga Ай бұрын

As a would-be fiction writer, your videos never fail to inspire. I know these are tragic true tales, but I can't help but weave these real complexities into my dnd games and then tell them it is all based on a real thing,

@nonenone7761 Ай бұрын

No Bullshit: The Satanic Panic had the best soundtrack.

@Pikachu2Ash Ай бұрын

Especially the part where there was Sympathy for the Devil.

@grmpEqweer Ай бұрын

That IS a good band name...

@jon-paulfilkins7820 Ай бұрын

I always thought that the whole "they sacrifice children" as a smear came from the Romans who made that claim about Carthaginians, Celts, Christians etc, as opposed to exposing them on a hill side or municipal rubbish dump like civilised people... You know, civilised people like the Romans and Greeks.

@opinion3742 Ай бұрын

@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts How objectively proven is it that any society regularly practiced child sacrifice? I'm skeptical still. As for abortion. Pah.

@jonathonrobinson6081 Ай бұрын

@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5tsAbortion isn't infanticide nor an atrocity, and it has happened throughout history.

@alexsims6504 Ай бұрын

10 minutes at the end of watching you play with your cat is exactly what I needed this morning, thanks man

@danielmikula1375 Ай бұрын

I had thought the alt-right pipeline/PewDiePipeline was more a way to describe the way that GamerGate and the fledgling KZfaq recommendation algorithm would note the correlation between people watching gaming content and GamerGate videos, automatically promoting the latter to an unsuspecting audience.

@Scott-xb1ku Ай бұрын

GamerGate was 100% a woke moral panic. You weirdos made up a harassment campaign so some horrible rich kids could keep their glamour industry jobs (all these ppl got caught sending death threats to themselves lol). The reaction to GG did benefit the right by way of woke weirdos looking ridiculous and in bad standing with regular normies bc of their moral panic fit.

@QuadrielAnderson Ай бұрын

Video games don't cause violent thoughts, but violent thoughts definitely dictate what types of video games you play

@zephyrwayfarer Ай бұрын

Weird @10:38 I always viewed the alt right pipeline as a sort of naturally occurring pattern rather than some nefarious scheme or conspiracy theory. In fact in all the times I've seen it brought up it was through observing it as an emergent pattern brought about by social forces rather than some grand plot. I do remember that there was some scant records (nothing I would trust outright but it is a starting point for more research) stating that Steve Bannon had gone on record as piggybacking off of that naturally occurring phenomenon in order to build support for conservative ideals but that's different from engineering an entire intricate plan to manipulate people. I think the useful takeaway is less "think of the children and be afraid" and more "teach children media literacy in an online world and to be active curators of their online experience rather than passive consumers" Edit: i should also note that i do think the term is...kind of overblown? That sort of progression just happens as people live and experience the world. The only thing thats different is the ways in which algorithms and access to the Internet have influenced that progression. Also i should note that while i hold leftist and progressive ideals and view myself as a radical in many ways i stopped caring about online political spaces because it stopped being about advocating for change and making the world a better place instead became a circlejerk of people dramamongering, abusing others, and looping back around to being spiteful and full of hate and then tying that all up in a neat package of progressive/leftist rhetoric.

@bohoasa Ай бұрын

this, I agree with you 100 % on this

@erinmcdonald7781 Ай бұрын

Oof, that last bit! Although I'm biased and think more progressives or leftists engage in some constructive online dialogue, I have seen some of what you're talking about, avoid it like the plague. Generally, it's the politics for the sake of politics discussions that can go there, versus those about substantive issues. One of the places I've noticed to be decent is the comments section for Beau of the Fifth Column. It's a chill community similar to the one here.

@Sam_on_YouTube Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure the link between gameplay and aggression is very short-lived. Like when playing an aggressive game, you've got adrenaline pumping. But you won't be more aggressive on your regular life once you've calmed down. Not 100% on that, but that is what I think I recall from that study.

@LadyTylerBioRodriguez Ай бұрын

The one thing that sometimes gets me through the day with transphobia, is how miserable these bigots are. I mean does Matt Walsh really seem like a guy who sits back and watches anything for fun? Benny Shapiro can't please his wife. That ONE WRITER barely even sleeps anymore. I'm just here writing and researching poorly defined pirates, writing short stories, talking with my girlfriend, and working. I'm a woman, nothing is changing that, the ship of changing sailed long ago. I'm gonna be happy being me, something those people can't even be.

@starmaker75 Ай бұрын

I think what makes me not go into moral panic or be skeptical about it is asking this "what I'm doing this crusade?" And asking "is this good for my stress?". Again our personal lives are stressful enough and have own problems to deal with it. As selfish as may be, but it fine to sometimes only focus on own self, family and friends (your own social bubble).

@samrevlej9331 Ай бұрын

I somehow feel like dropping a "Yas queen" would be too much cringe coming from a cishet man such as myself, but the spirit is there. Living a happy life is the best way to make bigots cry.

@obelix703 Ай бұрын

51:45 Never felt bad about fast forwarding through those Magellan ads, but now I feel justified. Damn, I had no idea they were sketchy like that.

@rino09876 Ай бұрын

When I first heard about the Satanic ritual abuse panic of the 80s I thought it was the funniest thing I had ever heard. Nothing that stupid could ever happen again. Fast forward to 2023 and the Republican party suddenly cares about women's and girl's sports.

@mito88 Ай бұрын

republicans, pro-life and pro-death.....

@Hans-qi3wq Ай бұрын

I burst out laughing at the "... It sounded better in the original German". It would've been funnier if it wasn't true. A good analysis - well done 👍

@erinthesystem9608 Ай бұрын

'The Culture of Fear' is a good W.Bush-era book about fear-mongering in the modern United States. (A few additional bogeymen have been offered since the time it was written, but the book remains relevant.)

@clytemnestra Ай бұрын

Great video and thank you for covering this. Not long ago I watched a documentary about the gay rights movement made in 2008 which discussed the “ex gay” trend in the 90s or so. They’ve just reused the same exact playbook against trans people today. Insanity.

@shankieinthefridge Ай бұрын

Sounds interesting, which doc is that?

@RevShifty Ай бұрын

None of it is new but the specific targets. The targets generally have to be small and "unusual" enough that they can't defend themselves (or if they did it wouldn't matter), and other people don't want to risk it. Just that is enough to keep the parking going for a few years at a minimum. Other than the target always moving, absolutely nothing ever changes. It's disgusting.

@clytemnestra Ай бұрын

@@shankieinthefridge sorry just saw this! The documentary is called Outrage from 2009. Looks like it’s not currently streaming anywhere.

@lyleswanson7557 Ай бұрын

I am sure that the indigenous Americans felt the same way about the foreigners coming in to their country.

@jamesbest9038 Ай бұрын

Well they have the excuse of actually being killed off and enslaved. When 90% of the European descended population of the United States is dead, rounded up or enslaved then I'd say your fears are justified. Until then I think it's a pretty weak comparison.

@el.blanco8961 Ай бұрын

Since COVID, I've called this phenomenon new age mass hysteria. THIS TOPIC NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT MORE

@anythinggoesguy Ай бұрын

Here are some queer perspectives on the moral panics you described: 1) Templar Knights were also accused of sodomy, which was very easy to do for an all male-group and helped whip up support against the Templar Knights. 2) McCarthyism also sought out to root out homosexuals from the state department, which could be seen an overlap of the moral panic. McCarthy and some of his allies were closeted, which meant they could not focus too much on homosexuality without risking outing themselves. 3) While it does not have a direct connection to the satire "Think of the Children", Anita Bryant's "Save the Children" was the seed of modern day anti-gay moral panic. Her campaign was just as dramatic. I would argue that Anita Bryant contributed to SRA. 4) The case that sparked D&D moral panic was the death of James Dallas Egbert III. While it was not really disclosed during the hype, he actually struggled with his sexuality, which likely was a contributing factor to his depression and suicide. Hiding such information made it easy to blame media (in this case D&D) than deal with the homophobia that more likely contributed to his mental health issues.

@leroypreston2973 Ай бұрын

The comics scare also had this, Frederic Wetham claimed Batman and Robin were gay and were in a gay relationship because they don't interact with women, they wore colorful campy costumes and spent a lot of time together. He also said wonder woman was a lesbian dominatrix. Likely her fighting with women, tying them up, talking about female power and sisterhood, coming from an all female land and hanging around a sorority of young trouble making women. One page of the book has an image of a comic where Wonder woman has a big breakfast for a littoe girl and says that this is what an Amazon eats. Likely going for a gays are pedos thing. As well as how Wondy is inducting her into Lesbian sisterhood. With her eating all that food, she'll become fat/muscle big and defy female beauty standards which dictate she always be on a diet and always try to lose 5 pounds.

@basara7 Ай бұрын

There's a great book about that era of burning comic books called The Ten-Cent Plague

@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

yep, I directly cite it in the video

@chrisball3778 Ай бұрын

The 'social construction of childhood' theory has been around for ages, but it's never really had any solid evidence behind it. It's really kinda contradicted by lots of historical literature where people talk about their feelings towards their children. Yes, there were different expectations of children in different eras, and the age at which they were considered grown could vary between cultures, but there's a fairly consistent tendency to see kids as inherently more vulnerable and requiring more protection than adults. It's probably what makes the 'Won't somebody think of the children?' censorship gambit so successful throughout time and across cultures. Also, it's not fair to characterise the Luddite movement as a moral panic. It was an economic conflict. Advances in technology enabled textile dealers to replace highly-skilled hand-weavers with low-skilled factory workers, driving down wages and worsening working conditions. Luddite machine-breaking was a response to real attack on labour rights that had been established over hundreds of years. The early phase of the Industrial Revolution in England saw increases in working hours and stagnating life expectancy as people were forced to move into cities where they had to work long hours in factories and were more vulnerable to communicable diseases. Average height decreased, due to increased nutritional stress in childhood. Luddites were upset for good reason.

@I.M._Carlisle Ай бұрын

Alternate video title that came to mind once I finished: "Bullshit Fears and the Cowards and Con Artists who Propagate Them." KZfaq probably wouldn't like it though.

@onlyDoti Ай бұрын

At the start when you facetiously said “social media warps kid’s minds” i was like, “but fax tho”. it was only when the rant spiraled into crazy that i knew it was time for the video fr

@mikem820 Ай бұрын

I’ll say one thing about trump’s ‘movement’ …. It made me realize just how true Mencken’s observation is; “Democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of the truly ignorant “

@jackskellingtonsora Ай бұрын

Nobody was ever arguing that there was a conspiracy to turn kids conservative with different creators collaborating or whatever else. Nobody said this or believed this. Maybe some random person on twitter did who has two followers or whatever, but not actual commentators with people listening to them. Obviously every creator wants to influence people to think the way they think, that's why you're making political content. The argument was that the algorithm pushes you further and further down a rabbit hole of political content that is more and more radical from where you started. This is very much so how the youtube algorithm works. It simply exists to increase watch time and so will suggest similar videos next to the video you're watching. So you click on Ben Shapiro or Blaire White and then you go down a pipeline to all these other creators that were on the picture at 10:09. The lines are connecting them in terms of how often they collaborated with each other. It's how radicalization works, it's a fairly well studied phenomenon. It's just easier than ever to get radicalized because of youtube and social media algorithms that push you down those paths.

@danamahr3773 Ай бұрын

Thank you for this really good essay. I’m especially impressed by your taxonomy of moral panics. As a historian / sociologist of science I might want to add, that all those moral panics also have an epistemic component. Those serve for the justification of harmful measures in a scientific, thus “neutral” disguise - oftentimes based on networks of activist driven counter-expertise. This is very evident in the current anti-trans moral panic and its moral economy around bogus concepts such as “rapid onset gender dysphoria”.

@michaelhorn6029 Ай бұрын

I am seeing small scale situations like this in debates about food and health. Moreover in discussion of environmental issues, where everything is framed as misleading or dangerous from someone's perspective.

@joeyrufo Ай бұрын

What this all comes down to is the fear of death. "if things change, then I die" is a powerful Cartesian Demon in the public imaginary

@aaronbcole Ай бұрын

I saw Jello Biafra on a speaking tour, poking fun of the manufactured existential threat of ‘the youth’

@kristinashepherd3003 Ай бұрын

As a sociologist this video is one of the best examples of moral panic and gives the best explanations . It truly is spot on! Cipher makes the best videos!

@Kenshiro3rd Ай бұрын

Thank you for this vid… truly. I’ve followed you for years now. I discovered you because of your movie reviews, but fell in love with the rest of your vids. I absolutely love your level headed no-nonsense approach to these matters.

@thegardenoffragileegos1845 Ай бұрын

"Ya got trouble, my friend, right here, I say, trouble right here in River City!"

@elizabethduplat5998 Ай бұрын

Trouble with a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for pool!

@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

now why didn't I think of _The Music Man_ !? That would've been great to reference

@daemonspudguy Ай бұрын

This one's gonna generate some discourse.

@woodsmand Ай бұрын

no not really, he makes it pretty clear who he's talking to and its not anybody who's going to disagree with him.

@Pikachu2Ash Ай бұрын

Discourse is being polite about it :)

@singletona082 Ай бұрын

They've increased? I thought it was simply the same shrieking since 2008 that hasn't stopped for longer than it's taken to take breath and keep screaming to BE AFRAID.

@B_Van_Glorious Ай бұрын

Ratchet that back to 2001 at a minimum. 9/11 gave the patriot act and the media's never let up since. I don't think we're going to destratify culturally without major legislation against the media. We have private journalism actively stoking division and fomenting insurrection based on obvious lies. With friends like these who needs enemies? Im not sure how to fix private industry here, except by nationalizing it. Those who've proven unfit for the responsibility should be stripped of it and banned from that sector going forward (cough cough, law enforcement, DOC). And as much as I don't want journalism to be the 5th branch of government, by never holding politicians to actual account and just reiterating the official narrative, they've essentially already been sworn in and at the end of the day we're at the same place regardless what you call it. We need PBS on steroids, sworn to the truth and the keeping the public informed of it, good or bad, the same way DRs take an oath. State and city journalism departments, all independent of government pressure, funding guarenteed as a measure of upholding and protecting the 1st amendment. But empowered to seek, demand, spread and protect the truth as their first order, regardless of whatever outcome the truth brings. That's a separate issue altogether and not within any one person's control.

@Andy_Babb Ай бұрын

This video could be titled “How Todays Republican Party Operates”

@beejls Ай бұрын

Too true

@Andy_Babb Ай бұрын

@@beejls Like that bi-annual “migration crisis” that only seems to be an issue during election season.

@Thecollectorpoggers Ай бұрын

@@Andy_Babb its still crazy that there just 7 trillion migrants every time the tie in the oval office is blue

@Andy_Babb Ай бұрын

@@Thecollectorpoggers It’s only an issue every two years when republicans cry about it during election time. Also, “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Yes, immigration is a real issue that needs to be resolved but I’m pretty certain that just rounding folks up and sending them back where they came from isn’t exactly what that quote means.

@JohnBrownsArmory Ай бұрын

The pewdie pipeline wasn't real..... but the atlright pipeline was. It was never said that there was an active coordination to spread right wing propaganda. The theory was because the right was the dominant political sphere on KZfaq at that time, in conjunction with algorithms showing videos that continually reinforced right wing talking points, that it was easy for people to become radicalized by it.

@SincerelyFromStephen Ай бұрын

I don’t disagree with any of your comment, but the “atlright” pipeline instead of alt-right makes me think that the city of Atlanta has a pipeline to convince people to move there

@grmpEqweer Ай бұрын

@@SincerelyFromStephenThat too.

@jaredwatts4140 Ай бұрын

Youre videos are always well put together and informative. Thanks for all your work.

@youjustgotcarled Ай бұрын

As a trans woman i thank you for refusing that sponsorship

@wmdkitty Ай бұрын

Aww, little dude is a talkative kitty!

@hiregenz 19 күн бұрын

ty for doing the work you do. incredibly well articulated esp since moral panics have been used throughout history - SO importantt

@michaelmitchum7271 Ай бұрын

The end. of you just talking with your cat was great. Nice positivity after ending such a depressing video.

@Mornings Ай бұрын

Statists be like "wow can't believe people used appeals to emotion and authority to scare people into accepting beliefs"

@oliverbarbaros100 Ай бұрын

Anyone who genuinely believes they’re teaching CRT to kids just doesn’t know what they’re talking about. It’s only even discussed in academic circles, and it’s not reverse racism, it’s a framework of thought that attempts to deconstruct institutional racism.

@markwilliams2620 Ай бұрын

Alas, that would require critical thinking skills.

@dl2839 Ай бұрын

@@markwilliams2620 CRT is basically anti-white racism.

@fayfayfunches Ай бұрын

I’m glad you are selective with your sponsorships. You are one of my favorite KZfaqrs, and I look forward to your next video!

@TH3G0ODGUY Ай бұрын

ALL ABOARD THE FEAR TRAIN!!! LET'S HEAD TO PANIC TOWN! HOFSTADTER DEMANDS IT!

@billy101cat Ай бұрын

Long live King Richard the first, our benevolent Feline Monarch, Defender of the comments, Lord of the Outtakes, Wielder of the Banhammer! Long may he oversee these great historic deepdives!

@linda10989 Ай бұрын

And may He make more appearances!👍🤞

@tomalexander4327 Ай бұрын

Wow, pretty shocked about Magellan TVs homophobia.

@Pikachu2Ash Ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110 So that makes it better lol. Not taking a stance and not caring is even worse?

@margotpreston Ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110 Yeah, and that's worse. You do get how that's worse right.

@robynpress9534 Ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110"I have no opinion on whether queer folk are treated like human beings" isn't really the winning response you seem to think it is.

@apokatastasian2831 Ай бұрын

@@Pikachu2Ashhaving political corporations isn't going to work out the way you think. ultimately if you create that norm, that corporations HAVE to wade inyo every social issue..... then the people that work the hardest and have the most money will seize it and wade into their own social issues first... unless "queer folk" are the ones working 99 hours a week...ultimately political organizations will simply pander to them and you, play nice to your sensibilities in a cynical way and then take your money. if you want freedom, ask for businesses that provide everyone with goods and services as cheaply, neutrally and freely as possible....period this is obvious once you think it through....

@Oxtocoatl13 Ай бұрын

@@thorpeaaron1110 it's absolutelt a stance to decide that the mere mention of gay people is a political issue you don't want to take a stance on. That's inherently dehumanizing and tacitly taking the side of people who want to erase that existence. In this case it's a homophobic stance.

@AmericanMephistopheles Ай бұрын

The problem with blackmail these days is that most people are completely devoid of shame.

@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

Shamelessness is a cynical virtue

@pammgurl Ай бұрын

this video is exactly what i needed thank you

@shanefoster2132 Ай бұрын

Just some observational notes. Does the Piediepipeline thing really qualify as a moral panic? First, and this may be ancedotal, but it seemed to me to be more of an observation of algorthimic trends than any call for action. I may be misremembering that time or wasn't aware of these calls because I would not consider myself to be politically active at the time. Secondly, did it rise to the necessary scale to be a moral panic? Did it have enough societal influence to be a moral panic? I'm not saying it doesn't have similarities. It just doesn't seem to have enough scale, though I may be wrong. Next, the command to not sacrifice children does not preclude (at least in that verse) sacrificing them to God. It forbids it explicitly towards Malek (spelling?). That may just be a quirk of language or translation and was understood at the time to be an outright ban. I just found that interesting.

@Baso-sama Ай бұрын

Moloch is not a separate entity, it just means child sacrifice in hebrew. Christians cope by saying it is a demon because they are desperate to somehow distinguish themselves from jews, so they grab onto every straw they can find.

@levibee9451 Ай бұрын

I don't remember anyone arguing that there was a deliberate conspiracy by KZfaq execs to radicalize people to the right, just an observation (with documentation) that that's how the algorithm was working. Furthermore, The Christchurch shooter who killed 50 people in New Zealand shouted "subscribe to PewDiePie" as he was committing a mass shooting. It's not an imagined connection.

@JoeMitchell2 Ай бұрын

Y’all have GOT TO read more about “witches’ ointment” (there are various spellings, depending on the nature of possessive pronoun being used). There have been studies with good procedures & sourcing from various fields, my specialization is History so that’s where most of my information came from, and what it reveals about the minds of the men who - quite frankly - *obsessed* over this mysterious compound (along with, of course, the culture they created - will make you think a little bit about some modern antifeminist & anti-woman / incel moral panics over the liberation & fully-realized humanity of women. Hopefully. I’m hoping it makes you think of Ben Shapiro’s claims about vaginas, for example. Anyway, excellent video! My thanks to the creator(s).

@kmgg5005 Ай бұрын

another great great video- topped off with the 'king' of kitty moments...seriously, I love how imprinted you and King are, wonderful cat and informative channel. Just wondering tho- if I pay the ransom- does that mean I get King 😉😄? Thanks for the great work!!

@deckie_ Ай бұрын

I've been looking for material into the rationale behind conspiracies and the history so this video is a great help

@tdsollog Ай бұрын

“Think of the children!” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Kitty love is awesome. 🐈‍⬛

@Faunadoodlez Ай бұрын

#supportcats #catsareawesome

@RickAinscow Ай бұрын

Hi I love your videos bur I'm from north west England ( the land of the Luddites). I have to take issue with you glossing over their struggle. It wasn't just about jobs, but who owned the means of production ( yes I know big K Marx) they didn't know about him, as he wasn't writing in the late 18th century. Basically, they weren't against new technology, just against it being introduced in way that would leave them powerless. Either work for the mill owner or starve to death. What would you have done? Sorry for the grumpinesss. I'm a big fan of your work and share the same name as your cat. Rick

@Ullumma Ай бұрын

The Luddites were against the "satanic mills" and would get hysterical (mobbed up) and destroy factories.

@beejls Ай бұрын

Excellent video that addresses so much of the garbage we are wading through today. History is wash rinse repeat, sadly.

@navibc31 Ай бұрын

What is the name of the short used at 44:04 please?

@lynnbowers4722 Ай бұрын

I applaud your integrity. It is sadly rare in this culture we've made of "anything for a buck".

@daneater957 Ай бұрын

Does anyone know where the clip at 25:30 is sourced from? I'd love to see the video its pulled from in full.

@CynicalHistorian Ай бұрын

That is the 1943 film _Forces Occultes_

@rubies2905 Ай бұрын

Great king outtakes ❤ great episode !

@lyudmilapavlichenko7551 29 күн бұрын

I lived through the satanic panic of the late 80s. Same people. Different devil.

@user-ft3pj1nr6c Ай бұрын

Been watching you for years and I must say that you stay excellent. Congrats on your success, you deserve it!

@cassandrayorke583 Ай бұрын

Cypher, this is excellent scholarship. ❤Thank you for illuminating (lmao, sorry for the pun) the causes - and the antiquity - of something that I consider one of the scourges of my life.

@theshenpartei Ай бұрын

If anyone wants to know about the comics code authority it was abandoned in 2011.

@B_Van_Glorious Ай бұрын

You know, I grew up in the 90s reading comics. Freedom to exist and express, to love whomever you are lucky enough to love you back and do what makes you you, seems super fucking obvious to me, that questioning those values isn't even an option. I naively assumed those values were universal. After being an adult for a couple decades, and growing up before the internet really took hold, I realized that comics were what set me apart from the general masses. X-Men teaching civil rights, Spiderman: great power...I didn't realize the morals being instilled in me. Stan Lee taught me to be a moral person.

@theshenpartei Ай бұрын

@@B_Van_Gloriousat some point we need a biography film about him.

@B_Van_Glorious Ай бұрын

@@theshenpartei I would like that, but then I'm old enough to separate the art from the artist. Stan Lee made Marvel a thing in the 50s...there HAS to be all kinds of sordidtry that was common place in the era that has aged TERRIBLY into today. I know there are several things about the 80s, 90s, aughties, even the 10s that are super cringe today. Ie. In the 90s. Everything bad was g*y. You talked shit by calling someone a f*g. I call that hate speak now. Matt Shepards tragic end put a hard end on that for all of society. As you age, you realize that that progression is just how life is. Society progress's. We learn. We do better. We raise children to not do what we did when we didn't know any better. The Cringe, unsung child of Kronus, time itself, quietly survived Zues' mastication. Now as the harbinger of the Reaper, he comes for us all. As sure as the sun rises, no life unaffected. Its been foretold. By me. Here. It was foretold right here, you just saw it. We should make that into a comic and dedicate it to our man, Stan, the vaulted moral philosopher of Clan Lee.

@theshenpartei Ай бұрын

@@B_Van_Glorious I heard and I recommend to another person two books that are worth reading about how the industry reacted to comic scare during the fifties.

@sagehart9622 28 күн бұрын

The video was great, but your cat’s unbearably adorable chirps were the best part. He’s such a cutie.

@CynicalHistorian 27 күн бұрын

He's a monarch and therefore, I have no control over the matter. LOL

@user-je5do6jn2f Ай бұрын

The Socratic Method still holds weight.

@harrypothead42024 Ай бұрын

I do not understand how KZfaq justifies taking away all of your Revenue because its age restricted. As long as people are watching it and ads are playing it shouldn't matter if those people are children or not. It almost makes KZfaq sound like a corporation of groomers