i agree ktm has been dropping quality since 2018 , they wont be getting my hard earned money until they stop putting investors first

These new TBIs are tempting but the SIMPLICITY of my 2018 300xc with Smartcarb, KYB conversion, Flexx bars, One Light Clutch, Gnarly, Tubliss etc means it has NEVER been to a shop. Plus the new bikes are stupendously expensive.

Wow! I heard Highland Cycles had the same issue with the crank seal leaking. Will be changing to TM or Beta in the future a YZX 300 would be sweet also.

Geez, that thing has more wires than an 80's Toyota Corolla.

Another great informational vid! We had issues with ring seat and blow by 125 and 250 tbi. Have always ran R-50 as we are outlaw kart racing hard on our motors. We found experimenting mainly the 125 (Dumonde tech storage break in oil) after re-ringing/breakin definitely helped the rings seat better, faster and 95% of the evidence of piston ring blowby that drove us crazy had stopped. Now this process has become another part of our religous routine everytime we re-ring and break in. Could be wrong but I believe that if it can be said, the R-50 might be too good of oil inhibiting a good seating and seal of our piston rings. Once seated we get right back to the good ole trusty R-50. Take care!

It’s unfortunate that some people have issues but I have a 40 hour 125 and 10 hour 250 both 23 and they run great for me. 40 hours Mx on original piston and pump gas

KTMs attempt to innovate and improve 2 strokes is actually ruining 2 strokes. Nobody asked for piles of electrical things to go wrong, nobody wants to have to take their 2 stroke back to the dealer regularly to get issues fixed. We buy 2 strokes because we want cheap, simple and easy engines to work on and stress free ownership. KTM are ruining that 🤦🏽‍♂️ I’ll be keeping my 2022 TC250 for as long as possible and either move back to 4 stroke or move back over to Yamaha for my 2 strokes

Craziest thing, I see a lot of videos like this and I get it crap happens but of all my buddies that have both TPI and more recently TBI models…no triubles at all. I guess it’s a big world and machines in different markets but as mentioned local bikes are doing just fine!

Understandable Rant !

I have a husky te 300 2017 in Australia and will never upgrade to a newer one for this reason.

Great video Dave.

Never mind, I see the video already posted, you the man! Can you do a tutorial on the pressure testing? Is it just a regular leak down test? If that's the case I should already have the equipment to do this.

I sold my 2013 KTM 300XC (which I loved) for a 2023 KTM 300XC with 22 hours. I’ve put 10 hours on the bike so far, and I love it. No leaks from the engine yet, no complaints with power, and it rips. Isn’t grumpy when cold. I ride at 4000-9000ft. I’ve noticed I already have oil leaking out of the silencer which seems kind of odd for being so new and running 60:1. For the MSRP I would expect a radiator fan, headlight, and maybe swingarm guards/ full skid plate that covers the linkage. I know it’s an XC so they do not usually come with a headlight, but still for the money having some of these extras I kind of expect. I’ve heard complaints of the suspension, but honestly I really like it - going fast downhill and through techy steep terrain is a breeze. Time will tell how durable this thing is for me. I am definitely going to put it through the wringer. I’m definitely a bit nit picky here with the complaints, but it feels like it’s a solid bike. Lugs pretty good obviously not as good as an XC-W or TE 300 would. Hope this helps for those that have one or are looking to get one in the comments

I bought the 1st new 23 250xc at my dealer. It ran boggy down low and left me stranded on the very first ride miles from the truck. I replaced the spark plug with a new one. And replace the pre mix fuel from a known good source. Still ran horrible, took it back to the dealer after just a couple of days. KTM charged me a lot of money to clear a fuel pump code because I accidentally bumped the starter button with the tank off when changing the plug. They told me they went ahead and updated the ecu it free of charge. But I was charged to clear the code.. The update did not help much with the poor fueling down low, the bike is not trailable at all. I put it in my basement and haven't touched it since. Brand new KTM that I have no interest in and haven't touched in over a year. I almost forgot, the dealer or the manufacturer somehow forced the skid plate into position. So that when you remove the bolts for maintenance or cleaning, you can not realign the holes because the plastic skid plate was not molded to the proper dimensions in the first place.

Thank you for the good information 🏁🏁🏁.. quality problems are plegging everything, even livability.

I know dudes with over 100 race and ride hours on these things with ZERO issues. However, I do believe the potential for issues is HIGHER with the added sensors/electronics. My TBI runs better than any carb bike I have personally ever been on. My times are faster just from making the switch to TBI. I don’t fault those who chose to stay on the carb with a kickstart backup though, it makes a ton of sense from a cost and potential reliability standpoint.

Ran R50 forever until my first ktm. Have a 23 tbi always ran the recommended cross power 2t (with ok luck, fouled one plug at 30 hours). Wanted to switch back but wondered if I’d have issues with the klotz premix with 23 tbi. Klotz is very thick and heavy compared to the crosspower. Any concerns there?

I have a Ktm Sxf 450 2017 which I am happy with owned since nearly new but I’ve just bought a yz125 2021 didn’t want the newer one or a Ktm and feels like I’ve come home

Thanks for sharing Dave 👍!! So how did you solve the issue?

Thanks for the heads up😮

So I have a 23 husky tc 250. 40 hrs beat the crap out of it racing enduros and it’s been totally fine for me. My question is, does Husqvarna have the same exact engine or do they kind of do their own thing with internals and electronics and quality control. These videos make me a tad nervous but I absolutely love the tbi power delivery.

what psi should these crankcases be pressurised to to test the leaks?

My 22 150 had leaking crank seal too before 60 hours. Right around a top end at 45. Didn't seem like it made as much power, probably because too rich and not seating the rings. Even new it seemed to be nearly 20 hours before it really came to life. I recall once on trail not making a hill and revving it high to push it up and after it had tons more power. As if revving it to the moon really helped it.

That's funny.I've been saying that exact thing about if Yamaha put out a purpose built 2 stroke enduro type bike. KTM would be bankrupt in a year! Ever since I bought my shitty running 2024 Husky TE250. Very frustrating!!!!

So whats the fix on the pressure sensor?

should i buy a sherco then? 300 carb and counterbalance ?

Seems like the new tbi bike have more problems than the tpi’s from what I’m experiencing.

I have a 2017 Husq TX 300 with a Lectron carb and Kreft Powerdial. I consider it to be the pinnacle of 2 stroke performance, reliability and tunability.

Maybe simple TEST for leaks: spray brake clean at those areas while idling and see if rpm picks up. I just tested my TBI and was good. this works for snowmobile motors vac leaks

Thoughts on Beta’s carbureted 300?

Great video, I have been chasing down a plug fouling issue on start up on a 23 TX300 with 30 hours, I put together a pressure testing set up and found a couple issues. Yes the CCP manifold leaked #1, the o-ring will not seal tightly to the manifold without sealer, #2 the clutch side crankshaft seal was allowing trans oil into the crankcase. When the factory installed the seal it scored the case bore in many places allowing oil to get past O/D of seal, new seal with sealer and it holds pressure again.

Dang, I got a new 2024 Gasgas ex 300 I hope this doesn't happen to me

Almost 70 hard motocross hours on my early production 2023 300sx and still no problems.

If we see you riding a newer KTM after this video you’ve lost all cred 😂

23 350sxf been incredible for 70hrs so far with an xpr ecu on it even

Them ktm bikes are shit 0:40

The hypothetical YZ300 would need a hydro clutch as well to put KTM outta biz!

I have three words for you: Sherco/Beta/Rieju

Oh no 😮

First thing I check. It's nearly always the CCPS even when it seems like nothing is wrong.

Absolut stellar and you say how it is. All their new bikes totally suck! I stopped buying them when they got rid of Kickstarters. My2012 exc 300 was one of the best for racing. But that was it. And yes you right a 300 YZ would put them out of bussiness.

You lost all credit when you said buy a Yamaha, unless you race for star racing Yamaha motors are junk buy a beta or a rejue if you don’t want fuel injected

Thats nothing new with ktm. On all the trail rides if there was a bike problem, always a ktm! Doesn't matter what year. You're all a victim of their marketing.