Wondering if Jeff will respond to the KZfaq video titled: Jeff Durbin gets destroyed by facts and logic? By the way, has Jeff ever actually debated a known LDS scholar or are all the video of him getting into it with 19 year olds and lay members?

@@SacaPuuntas LDS 'scholars' think that they will become a god one day as well.

@@estherlewis7458 We believe that we (you) are truly sons and daughters of God. And as sons and daughters, our Father wants us to be with Him and Like him. HE wants us to inherit all that He has. There are biblical scriptures that attest to this that I hope you take time to take in. Romans 8:16-17, John 10:33, Matthew 5:48, Revelation 3:21. Godspeed!

@@estherlewis7458 FYI. I got an email saying you replied to my last comment but I don’t see it. Didn’t want you to think I was ignoring you.

@@SacaPuuntas No one is born a child of God. Everyone is born spiritually dead in their sins, children of wrath, children of disobedience and without hope in the world. Ephesians 2 Our sins separate us from an infinitely holy and righteous God. Isaiah 59:2 John 1:12 But as many as receive him to them gave he power to become sons of God. Latter-day Saints mock Jesus Christ and say he is a created being the brother of Satan. It is blasphemy of the highest order and will not be forgiven. That is why they are not children of God. John 10:30-33 Jesus Christ claimed to be God. How did you miss that part? 😔

Powerful testimony. Thanks for sharing.

Even after all of the chiasms found in the Book of Mormon, you left? I don't think a Joe Schmo could pull that out of his seer hat all by himself.

@@Ether-pb5gb what about all the contradiction that exists just between the B/M and D&C that leaves one wondering which book is the most important that you trust one over the other? A light bulb can't be ON and OFF at the same time, it must be one or the other. The problem with B/M and D&C has the problem where the lightbulb is on AND off at the same time creating so much confusion. For example: Who was tempted by Satan in the garden? The Bible tells us it was EVE that was tempted, which corresponds to 2 Nephi 2:18 “Wherefore, he said unto Eve, yea, even that old serpent, who is the devil, … Partake of the forbidden fruit …” But according to D&C 29:40, 41 Eve is not mentioned. We know Adam was NOT deceived because the New Testament gives us this info: 1 Timothy 2:14 It seems this contradiction would make anyone question the validity of the D&C book.

That is awesome!!!!

@Jayvc Trust the Lord Jesus my friend. You will serve a mission even greater than the one your earthly father wanted you to be a part of. “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple. And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple." Luke 14:26‭-‬27

By your reckoning Jesus is a liar??? Just like this judgemental preacher you lot think you know everything but don't even know the bible. Psalms 82 6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. John 10 34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

@@Apbt-rv7zw How is he judgmental???

@@Jedi_Are_Scum The preacher asks the Missionary where is it written that we can become gods? Jesus spoke Himself and said in Psalms 82:6 and John 10:34. The Preacher not knowing the scriptures, then passes judgement on the Missionary to repent for having a belief that is scriptual and spoken by the Messiah our Lord and Redeemer. I would have thought seeing the condescending attitude of judgement this preacher has was self evident.

@@jacobschwartz2968 Elohim in the Hebrew is Gods/gods plural. Elsewhere in the bible there are different terms for Kings, Rulers, Emperor etc. Elohim is reserved specifically Gods/gods/deity

@@Apbt-rv7zw Psalm 82 does not say you can become a god. It says ye are gods. If you are a god where do you live so I can come and worship you? Ez 28 Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Who? The missionary or the necio? Both called each other to repentance…

You need to repent Jac

for what?

@@usaforever8601 for sins. What you saying he's another Sinless Jesus Christ? Then you must be the same too then.

@@daixer3156 no, everyone sins, but just going up to random people and telling them to repent when they are doing God's work is a bit weird.

Well said

Degrade? He's directly confronting the indoctrination.

No degrading. This young man is out to recruit people into a cult. No one should get special protection from that.

I didn’t get a vibe that he was degrading him. I got the vibe he was taking it serious and was impressing that seriousness.

Telling someone the truth in a respectful way is not degrading them.

Even still, he refutes the doctrines they were steeped in from the time they were small children.

Exactly, they shouldn't be preaching, they should be studying. A church that sends out 18-year olds to preach in its name and in God's name can not and should not be trusted.

They go through a year of training alone. Mormons have a mass conversion plan. Know your scripture. Jesus knew people would try to distort his father’s message and planned accordingly

@@JuanLagunas0 bro I’m agreeing with you. I said a year minimum

@@JuanLagunas0 Juan, I would just like you to know that the church you love oh so much hides many, many things from you. They teach compassion, but will not open their doors to the homeless during these cold winters? Because you plan to go on a mission, I will give you information that is directly going to affect you. Many missionaries get assaulted, mugged, and attacked during their missions. You would think that with that happening, their parents would be made aware of this happening. Do you know what actually happens? They are directly told to NEVER tell anyone what has actually happened on their mission. Why do all missionaries only send letters that are positive? I'll tell you why, because they are not allowed to send any information about the scary assaults they typically experience. They hide many, many things from you. One of the prophets once said that god told him humans will never touch the moon. As you know now, humans have indeed touched the moon. So tell me, why was he wrong? Is it that god lied to him? No, of course not. You know god would never lie right? So then, surely the lie was from the prophet. Another prophet said that african americans will never receive the same rights because god does not view them as human. Was this prophet correct? No, as we know, he was not. So why are we believing these prophets who claim they speak from god? To believe god has lied would be silly right? Of course the prophets were the liars. So then.... why is it "prophets" who have been proven by history to have lied about what god has told them, why is it that they are controlling what you are taught in church? How are you meant to know that any of what you have ever been taught in this church is true, when you are being taught this by a human - a human fully capable of lying to you. While your religion may not be fake, while your god may not be fake, there are many, many corrupt liars who exist in your religion who care more for money than they do for people. Did you hear that the church spent billions of dollars on an industrial facility, with tithing money? The reason why they've bought a military industrial facility is unknown, but the bigger quest is - "Why is that money not being spent on members? To help people in need? To do kind things, such as what the bible teachers?" Do not fully believe the people in your church, for they are man, and they are fully capable of lying. The devil disguised himself as a snake to trick Adam, an evil person can disguise themselves as a prophet, a bishop, or a church leader, and they can trick you.

This dude is a flunk...him and his camera crew walking looking for challenges and degrading other religions instead of sharing the word of God to those in real need...

@kristen.mariex u have no idea what mormons believe and yes I was a mormon but I know the gospel they teach.....13 articles of faith chapter 1; We believe in God, the Eternal Father and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.

I wish you all will actually get to know a mormon....just like any other religion there are wolves in sheep clothing....

Amen.

@@MariaSilva-hv5dw it's a church problem, not a people problem. I'd say most mormons are absolutely wonderful people, they just get fed disgusting lies and some people really take those lies to heart

Hahahah thanks for that! Was a fun read!

Couldn’t have said it any better. I’d love to see you be in one of his videos, or even better the prophet!

I think the experience for the young missionary builds character, and I am sure that missionary will study harder. And it helps him remain humble to have experiences like this. None are acceptable before God but the meek and lowly of heart: Moroni 7:44. Either way the missionaries are great and the companion was wise and saw that there was no need to confront Jeff he had nothing he needed to show Jeff.

"I'm someone who wholeheartedly believes that we can becomes gods " Catholic teaching is consistent with scripture: _“The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods” (CCC 460)._ Restated, we become sharers in the divine nature. Articulates one Catholic website well: _The idea of sharing in the divine nature means we share what philosophers and theologians identify as God’s communicable attributes (goodness, holiness, and love) as opposed to his incommunicable ones (omniscience, omnipotence, omnipresence, and absolute simplicity). This participation in the divine nature is commonly referred to as theosis or divinization._ The same article says: _According to the original Greek of St. Athanasius, from which the Catechism quotes, the phrase, “that we might become God” is better translated as “that we might be deified.” The Greek word for “deified,” theopoiethomen, has the connotation of participation in rather than becoming God_

Jesus Is King ALLELULIAH my brother / sister ALLELULIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@lovereadingsnyc I am a sister. You too!!

And sanity saved me from christianity...gaymen...lol

Amen

Jesus Is King and surely His goodness and His mercy will follow you all the days of your life. Praise be to God Almighty!!!!!!!

You silent fart. lol

ME TOO!

Ava TongaCooks are you ok?!

Lots of stupid things elicit silence .

Me too.

No he was bumbling excuses the whole time and stumbling.

That’s exactly what he said. Good job

@@Awpos Yeah, no he didn't. I did. Clown. 🤡

What? He was already on his way to teach a lesson when he was stopped. His companion was doing the right thing by pulling him away so he wouldn't be late, mostly to keep from wasting time. The Spirit prompts missionaries to teach people who genuinely want to learn more about our church, not to argue with bible bashers like these.

Straight up 'Bino! Genesis 3:5 - "For GOD doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil". After 1st lying 2 Eve that they won't die, The Serpent tells them this. I find it so hard that Mormons, in their so-called diligent study of "the scriptures" cannot see the blatant, dissonant contradictions & question their beliefs. It breaks my heart.

Yes! You're right

@@seadawgg65 In the garden, lucifer told a half-truth. One thing he said was true, and another was a lie. In Genesis 2:17, God commands Adam to not partake of the fruit, because "he shall surely die" Genesis 3:4 is lucifer speaking to Eve, saying "You won't surely die" (here's the lie) Genesis 3:5 is lucifer continuing, saying "your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (here's the truth; pay close attention to the word "as") Genesis 3:22 is God speaking, saying "man is become as one of us, to know good and evil.." (God confirms the truth. Man did become "as" one of them, i.e. the gods). It's important to note that adam and eve didn't "become Gods". That's not what the scripture says. They become "as" gods, or, put another way, the ability to determine between good and evil is a god-like attribute. Perhaps the process of becoming god-like started the day that Adam fell. Perhaps this is important to not only ponder if you are saved by grace, but if you are changed by grace as well.

@@dill-pickles1 - Genesis 3:22 KJV - And the LORD God said, "Behold, the man is become "as" one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree." - Yes, but, the LORD God said" "AS" one of us. It is not written "IS" one of us i.e. "gods". There is a difference, even The Serpent says "as" gods.

@@dill-pickles1 Spot on.

That’s why I hate religion:) glad u love it tho!

@@Tecom38415 A relationship with God's Holy Spirit in you is beautiful. Following a man or a book is wrong. We get to follow GOD the Most High directly.

@@JohnCephas are you saying we shouldn’t follow the Bible?

@@kareemmitchell7357 if you do you'll just be sitting there. Books don't move on their own. Holy Spirit does.

@@JohnCephas I think I see what you’re saying, but I rather not assume. I believe you’re saying that you can’t simply just read the Bible, although we’re instructed to by God himself, the prophets, and apostles. If that is what you’re saying, I agree, but the Bible is a gift of God to us, without it we wouldn’t know God as deeply as some of us do. Without the Bible, we wouldn’t even know who the Holy Spirit is, so it’s definitely very much needed still. But again, I agree mostly with what you’re saying.

My favorite comment.

Go back sister, you have not been there yet. You faith were tested and like many others like me had fallen away. Thru the mercy and grace of God I found my way back thru repentance. To be honest the church of Jesus Christ of Lattet Day Saints is true and Gods kingdom on earth. It us who failed, not the Lord or the Church.

@@tuerisenikuraciri9912 God said not to add to His word and the Book of Mormon does that. I know what I found and I'm not going back. The only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ. Jesus is returning for His church, not Joseph Smith. I do not and will not put my faith in man.

@@melissamiddleton2135 thank you for speaking the truth

@@melissamiddleton2135 amen sister. For Jesus says I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 KJV Hallelujah thank you Jesus 🙏🏽and not Joseph Smith 🥴

@@melissamiddleton2135 wow, powerful words from someone once trapped by the lies of men. Thanks for sharing this and shedding much needed light.

You just went from one bad book to another man

@@victorr6391 it's win win. If I believe in God as I do, the outcome for me will be good. If He doesn't exist, I'll be in an eternal slumber. If I don't believe and He's real...that's not a risk I'm willing to take. That's what I call a safe bet.

@@maverickhunterx8533 i dont see how thats a win win. What if you believe in the wrong God? What makes you so sure yours is the right one? If you dont believe nothing happens yes thats it and its fine and if you do believe and he isnt real you just keep the lies alive for more generations to cling to that sounds like a loss

I have come to the realization that I'm doing the best I can with what I'm given. Since I was a young child, something about Jesus drew me to Him. Based on that, and reading the Bible, I've come to the conclusion that I'm going to be a Christian. I'm not worried about any other "god" at this point (If I'm wrong, I'll deal with that person then). I can live with my decisions...if future generations of mine believe or not, I can't speak for them. That's on them, but I'm trying to set them up for a shot at being correct.

@@maverickhunterx8533 You know thats the most sincere and self reflecting answer about someones beliefs ive heard and i respect you for that. If you came to that conclusion yourself nothing i say will change your mind and i wouldnt want to since your living your life and as long as you dont force your beliefs on anyone else youre doing great. We may not agree in a belief of god, i used to be catholic but left after being questioned by a nonbeliever and not having the answers then reading the bible myself and seeing all the horrible things in it and its contradictions and just the overall pain religion has caused, but you are true to yourself and thats what matters

When you worship an exalted man from another planet, you are an idolater. You are breaking the first and second commandments When you deny Christ and say he is a created being the brother of Satan, you are a blasphemer. You are breaking the third commandment. When you believe the first lie of Satan ' "Ye shall be as gods," you are a liar. God commands all men everywhere to repent.

Come on as RM and as ex Mormon i know the church also trained the missionaries to tell people to repent, to rebabtized at the church even the people whose come to the lds they are already has their baptism, the lds church itself trained the missionaries to invite ask the people to repent, meanwhile no one see jesus, even the prophets today they are never seen Jesus or God, does the Mormons are the arrogance too??

Right? It doesn't matter which faith you have as long as you keep the covenants you make. Remember, in the Book of Mormon, at one point the Nephites were worse off than the Lamanites. Why? Because the Lamanites never made any promises with God, and on top of that, they were never taught the true doctrine. On the other hand, the Nephites who actually made the covenants with God were disobeying, being prideful, allowing Satan into their lives, etc., etc.

Jeff suffers from sola scriptura, a man-made, 16th c doctrine. He believes it gives him the right to interpret scripture on his own, decapitated from the faith from which it came. A better question(s) that I would have asked, that Jeff is unable to ask, is _Open your bible to the table of contents. - How is it that you believe and trust that the bible's New Testament consists of 27 writings, no more, no less, out of 300+ early Christian writings? - Do you believe the Holy Spirit (understanding we disagree on the nature of this) led Christians to know without error that only these 27 writings were the inspired Written Word of God, or did mere man on their own figure this out?

He definitely was using a lie for a refuge. But he's not alone on that part

its not a card. it is a truth. translations and additional words added to fill out the pages is a truth man does not wish to understand or take note of. if you can not read greek then you are hoping white men translated correctly.

@@MultiMagnis negative you can translate it anywhere and it will be the same message there are different versions but the SAME MESSAGE

@@aaliyahwright8284 actually it won't. Translations from one language to another always has gaps and short coming. You would know this if you went online and translated from one bible to another. For instance no where in the original text of the king James does it say homosexual or heterosexual. No where. Also the common word or tongue of British english is not used the same as american english. If you ever had a language class you would know this and understand this. Each language can have common words but not the whole sentence will be the same or said the same or have the same context. Nice try though.

@@MultiMagnis of course its different words why do you thinks its called a translation its used to help people who don't understand the texts that's given to them. so they translate it , different langues talk completely different then what IS taught so what you're being taught in your little classes isn't completely accurate either take Shakespeare as an example "thou" means "you" in English it THE SAME MESSAGE IN DIFFERENT WORDING Also, prove to me that in the (kjv) they don't talk about homosexuality.

Idk if that’s correct but ok

@@cobyswitzer6846 read the Bible. It’s 💯 correct. It’s why Adam and Eve weren’t allowed to eat from the tree of knowledge. No one is capable of understanding as Our Father does. He is the creator and author of it all. Until you create the heavens and earth and every creature in it - you have massive arrogance to think you’re worthy of that kind of knowledge or power. It’s the worst kind of blasphemy out there & exactly what makes Lucifer evil to the core.

@@firesondiego7666 ever hear of the tree of knowledge and it being forbidden? Are you that arrogant that you think you could handle the knowledge Our Father has? We are not “gods”, there is one God.

@@firesondiego7666 where is that in scripture exactly? 😂 And yes, Eve took the fruit AGAINST Gods will.

@@firesondiego7666 you’re very correct we al can make our own choices. And yes, I could refute whatever Scripture you want to twist. May God show us both truth and give us the ability to call out falsehoods. 🙏🏼

But I'm also sure that he and many others have at least tried to think about what's right for them while still pursuing faith in their works!

​@@ToxicFangX1the only way to study the works of god is to go back to the old manuscripts and seek the evidence out, the root is the manuscripts. From that we learn that we are to follow the teachings as it is written in those original manuscripts and not follow anything that is outside the teachings of those very manuscripts, and this is why I love the catholic doctrine and not the Orthodoxy Mary veneration Jesus relagating sect.

@@Shsishsgsk So there can be no more words to add to our knowledge about the gospel or anything direct from God himself that is valuable of scripture? If God is our Father, he clearly won't stop speaking to us through more scriptures. If John 21:25 states that Jesus did more than just that written in the scriptures, who is to say that someone didn't write more than what we have in the translations today that were lost or were brought back up and we're treating them like false scripture?

Your accurate statement sums it all up. You are sooo correct.

Judge much. This "preacher" only know what he has been told to. He has no spirit in him during in this 90 sec.

He doesn't, but the Spirit does.

I agree, I hope Jeff comes around some day.

2 John 9Anyone who goes too far and does not remain in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who remains in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting; 11for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.

Bless these elders❤

Too young for that. His brain is not even fully developed yet 🤣mormon a joke. Gotta blame on their old folks sending out young man

True, it’s grilled into you by your parents and church from when your baptized. I would frequently get asked in high school “where I was hoping to serve my mission” like it was already set in stone despite supposedly being voluntary, though it’s not spoken directly it is made known what they think of people who don’t.

Who?

It would be nice if he also knew how to listen to people instead of waiting for his next turn to talk.

@@RatmanSays To be frank, wanting the powers of a god shows an eerie level of arrogance and psychopathy. You nor I nor anyone else in their extremely flawed judgement should be given those powers, let alone deserve them. And that king you alluded to, Jesus, along with our Father in heaven and the Holy Spirit, do certainly deserve the praise we give them. God gave us paradise, our salvation when we rejected that paradise, and the ability to communicate with Him while we wait for that paradise to return.

@@RatmanSays But also, you're right. This guy wasn't very kind. He needs to real in the sharp tone.

@@JackChatelle lol it has absolutely nothing to do with psychopathy. Unfortunately, people are taught certain beliefs when they are young and these beliefs can be pretty far out there. With that being said, psychopathy is associated with anti-social behavior, lack of remorse/empathy, boldness, etc.

Lol they learn under a cult. He’s not being manipulative. He’s teaching them that they have been falsely taught their whole life. The Mormons supposedly believe in both their book and the Old/New Testament but their book contradicts the words of God himself.

@@memesouls8653 I know I'm not one to argue or bash, but genuinely, what is the right way? How do we achieve salvation? Why can I be baptized into different churches and be taught different things about salvation. Does that mean they are all different and only 1 can be right? If so, which is it that can baptize with the correct authority like Jesus Christ and John the Baptist baptized?

@@ToxicFangX1 Well Baptism is more of a side issue within the Christian world. Some believe you need it, others don’t. Jesus said in the Bible that Salvation is achieved through him and him alone. I tend to stick to what the Old and New Testament teaches and don’t get sidetracked on what other expect me to believe because they say so. Just trust your relationship with God and he will answer your prayers.

​@@memesouls8653 Gotcha, but what about this scripture? Acts 2:38 (KJV): "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Shouldn't we be baptized like everyone else? Even Jesus Christ was baptized.

@@ToxicFangX1 baptism IS essential. Jesus said a man MUST be baptized to enter the kingdom of God. And by the proper authority.

If there is a god he should be at my feet as I am much more worthy than the god of the bible and so are you. I would not condone genocide, kill children, kill animals, support slavery etc. I would not allow a rapist to rape a child and stand by watching without doing so. If I did that you would think I was a freaking monster, yet god apparently does it every day. Be proud of yourself, you are likely a good and worthy person as our most and don't worship the god of the bible who isn't worthy to lick your feet.

Jason Smith um no cause god said no idols youd become his and thats a sin

*I would not allow a rapist to rape a child and stand by watching without doing so* And yet, that's what we, as a society, do. WE allow these things to happen. Why should God swoop down and clean up OUR messes? For example; these young men who are allowed to get away with raping young women, just because they are good in sports, or rich and priviledged.

We, as a society, allow this to happen all the time.

Don't put words in my mouth, ok? Society has been walking away from it. And those who have money and power will always get away with it.

Facts that’s why we have to be humble and meek.

Eternal life , that is

What is at stake is his soul, for he just passed up the only path to eternal salvation.

Much of what Jeff Says is easily rebutted. People lose sight that Jeff seems to only have these debates with untrained lay members of the Church. It would be nice to see him actually debate a known LDS scholar. There is a good rebuttal on KZfaq titled Jeff Durbin get destroyed by facts and logic if you are truly interested in the truth of what we believe. I’m not a big fan of the title but the content is very good. There are three videos, I recommend them all.

@@SacaPuuntas They have debated Mormons on their show that know their stuff. When it all comes down to it Mormons just like Muslims, Catholics, JW's, and Jews all take salvation in their own hand. We followers of Christ lay our trust at the cross and understand that only God can save us, and if even .000000001% of our salvation required us we would burn with the rest. You trust your works yet cannot keep from sin, therefore it isn't enough. God Bless.

That you are all insane?

It’s safe to say that most people have a built-in Compass that’s why they feel bad when they do things that are wrong. The word of God is easy to recognize because it’s pure having said that the church and religion. It’s very easy very easy to abuse power using the Bible. Just because there’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing, doesn’t mean the church is corrupt. It just means the followers need to keep their eyes ears open and keep their brain working.

@@TheObserver37 "It just means the followers need to keep their eyes ears open and keep their brain working." It doesn't seem to be working.

I don't just now remember what his church is but I remember he believes that God choices some people who are saved. So it isn't our choice - it's God's choice. This has no doctrinal support if I'm right. Like he believes that whatever we do in our life, God has decided to safe someone before we were born. Not matter what we do in life.

@@MultiJejje Thank you for saying this. I commented this before I watched more videos of Jeff, and I found I disagree as well with this topic and how he approaches SOME people. He believes in predestination which says that God pre-orders who goes to hell and who gets eternal life; however, Jeff doesn't mention 2 Peter 3:9 which reads The Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what He promises, according to some people's conception of slowness, but He is long-suffering (extraordinarily patient) toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to repentance. 2 Peter 3:9 AMPC It would be a contradiction of God's character, who is love, and a loving God doesn't send people to hell without a chance to repent. The opposite of predestination is free will, which says that God has given every man the choice to serve Him or not. Throughout a person's lifetime, God regularly gives a person the chance to come to Him and be free of their sin. God doesn't send anyone to hell who hasn't had their chance because, again, it is a start contraction of Who God is and what the Bible says about him. Another thing about Jeff is while I love that he is informed about beliefs of his target group (non-believers of Christ, or of the Bible that we have today), it seems he tries arguing people into believing and it doesn't, most times, work that way. Love should abound above all, not a good argument. Sometimes, there is a place to argue, but then another to just listen. Jeff, as much as I appreciate him, seems to argue with people instead of loving on them and winning them that way. How you say something can make all the difference instead of one shoving truth down people's throats. It is the goodness of God that wins people. No one wants to serve a God who you hear hell about all the time.

www.lds.org/ensign/1971/04/the-king-follett-sermon?lang=eng The King Follett Sermon, one of the classics of Church literature, was given by the Prophet Joseph Smith at the April 7, 1844, conference of the Church in Nauvoo, Illinois. Some twenty thousand Saints were assembled. The account of the talk noted that it was the funeral sermon for Elder King Follett, a close friend of the Prophet’s who had been killed in an accident on March 9. [...] I will go back to the beginning before the world was, to show what kind of a being God is. What sort of a being was God in the beginning? Open your ears and hear, all ye ends of the earth, for I am going to prove it to you by the Bible, and to tell you the designs of God in relation to the human race, and why He interferes with the affairs of man. *God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret.* If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible-I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another. [...] Here, then, is eternal life-to know the only wise and true God; and *you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves,* and to be kings and priests to God, *the same as all gods have done before you,* namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power. And I want you to know that God, in the last days, while certain individuals are proclaiming His name, is not trifling with you or me. [...] When you climb up a ladder, you must begin at the bottom, and ascend step by step, until you arrive at the top; and so it is with the principles of the gospel-you must begin with the first, and go on until you learn all the principles of exaltation. But it will be a great while after you have passed through the veil before you will have learned them. It is not all to be comprehended in this world; it will be a great work to learn our salvation and exaltation even beyond the grave. I suppose I am not allowed to go into an investigation of anything that is not contained in the Bible. If I do, I think there are so many over-wise men here that they would cry “treason” and put me to death. So I will go to the old Bible and turn commentator today. [...] *In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted [prepared] a plan to create the world and people it.* When we begin to learn this way, we begin to learn the only true God, and what kind of a being we have got to worship. Having a knowledge of God, we begin to know how to approach Him, and how to ask so as to receive an answer. When we understand the character of God, and know how to come to Him, he begins to unfold the heavens to us, and to tell us all about it. When we are ready to come to him, he is ready to come to us. Now, I ask all who hear me, why the learned men who are preaching salvation, say that God created the heavens and the earth out of nothing? The reason is, that they are unlearned in the things of God, and have not the gift of the Holy Ghost; they account it blasphemy in any one to contradict their idea. If you tell them that God made the world out of something, they will call you a fool. /But I am learned, and know more than all the world put together./ The Holy Ghost does, anyhow, and he is within me, and comprehends more than all the world; and I will associate myself with him.

No it is written they beacome there own god on there own planet

+Michael Naughtin thats ridiculous

Satan convinced Adam and Eve that they would become like gods. God bless

Adam Smith was not a freaking great prophet. Jesus left towns with distinction because he spoke truth people needed to hear, rather they wanted it or not. Smith was just a dick people thought would never be taken seriously ever because he was obviously selling his book. He was the worst least profitable door to door sales person on earth. But a prophet? Come on

Without the fall you wouldnt be here today☺

@@williamvatikani2770 Exactly, that’s what many people don’t understand.

That just blew my mind.

@@williamvatikani2770 exactly and you are not God and will never be a god, there can only be one God.

@@ChristianEvangelistJacobM Not true. Nice try though!

Mormonism is not Christianity.

@@mgd2000rb You foolish man. They're probably more faithful than you 🤣

@dhruvsaini781 I strongly encourage you to do some research into what Mormons believe. Mormons are Christians is an equivalent to saying Sonic is like Temple Run

I am a missionary myself, and I would like to say that your words are very touching. We made the choice to dedicate two years of our life to serving the Lord, and it is not an easy decision to make. If we can touch a few people's hearts, then that's all that matters to us.

​@deinefunster190 , dude the scripture of the book of Mormon contradiction is very easy to spot if you read the bible you will catch it right away. They both are not the same.

They don't know any scripture. they rehearse speeches which include cherry picked scripture for the purpose of brainwashing.

@@firesondiego7666 Then, you agree that adults shouldn't be sending off children to teach biblical doctrine? You just confirmed the point to his post. Most scholarly Christians agree that dinosaurs and hominids existed.

@@firesondiego7666 How have you surmised that the only way for dinosaurs to have existed is if it were before the creation of Adam and Eve? The bible mentions the Hebrew word "tanniyn" nearly 30 times. Research that.

@@firesondiego7666 No one made the argument the world is 65 billion years old. The bible must be ridiculous, because it mentions them nearly 30 times. Maybe you should learn Hebrew.

@@firesondiego7666 You haven't any idea how old the world is. Learn Hebrew which will teach you what tanniyn means.

So it IS possible!!! This gives me great hope as I’m loving on a couple LDS Elders. As long as they’re drawing breath, there’s hope.

You could have done it a lot but he could have said in other parts inside just Isaiah 43 which should be to the backlash and Reserve you should have quoted Ezekiel you should have quit Jose I should have quoted Corinthians you should have quit ask you should have quoted Thessalonians you should have quoted Revelations he should have called the Quran just to make a point that man is nothing upon nothing like a god in the least at least the least. Father Jehpvah is an absolutely different thing and person and character and power than we mankind are.

you know that’s just a teenager they spent 1 month training and sent him out, he dosent know everything he’s just somewhat of a starting guide and you can find the answers to those questions yourself through the book of morman, the amount of hate is unreal, idk why religions can’t just leave other religions alone, whoever that guy is, he is just trying to make money off of all of you. everyone who commented hate are all stupid.

@@christiansmith6182 the bom fraud is no answer no no no answers at all what so ever lol.

@@christiansmith6182 you sound like a total idiot you're totally ignorant person because even experienced people don't have any answers they just sidestepping Eli or the ones were apologetics experience in your cult I've heard thousands of testimonies of people leaving it after 40 to 50 years in the cult and they never were told a thing even then they were suspicious back then because he knew things were a mess because they were lies darkness and Satanism in it left and right

Christ told the Pharisees they were of their father the devil because they refused to believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh.

He has several times and they don't even have it either even though they're smarter they're not well-founded either just here is using information that always refutes apologists of thiz cult. The so called "educated" mormons are just as stupid and ignorant and WILLFULLY DISHOESNT AND FORCEFULLY DECEITFULLY with all their sidestepping and deflecting and gaslighting they do. It exposes their brainwashing and desperation. So there's no point go to the active people like the "mission" kids and stop all them and slowly or quickly tear the moron kulllttt apart. Pardon I mean this satanic moron kulllttt apart. There you go ma'am.

Then those missionaries should not be out recruiting for a cult.

The missionaries look for people who don't know scripture. The sheep far from the sheperd are not protected and are easy pray. Christians plant seeds, we don't look for prey.

The Bible is clear that all people are God’s creation (Colossians 1:16), and that God loves the entire world (John 3:16), but only those who are born again are children of God (John 1:12; 11:52; Romans 8:16; 1 John 3:1-10). In Scripture, the lost are never referred to as God’s children. Ephesians 2:3 tells us that before we were saved we were “by nature children of wrath” (Ephesians 2:1-3). Romans 9:8 says that “it is not the natural children who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring.” Instead of being born as God’s children, we are born in sin, which separates us from God and aligns us with Satan as God’s enemy (James 4:4; 1 John 3:8). Jesus said, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me” (John 8:42). Then a few verses later in John 8:44, Jesus told the Pharisees that they “belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire.” The fact that those who are not saved are not children of God is also seen in 1 John 3:10: “This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother.” We become God’s children when we are saved because we are adopted into God’s family through our relationship with Jesus Christ (Galatians 4:5-6; Ephesians 1:5). This can be clearly seen in verses like Romans 8:14-17: “…because those who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, ‘Abba, Father.’ The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. Now IF we are children, then we are heirs-heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.” Those who are saved are children “of God through faith in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:26) because God has “predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will” (Ephesians 1:5).

ZOAR Zoar well said

When I was in college (in the dinosaur days), there was a "fire and brimstone" preacher who would stand there and yell at people about how they were going to hell. One day, a student walked up and said, "Do you know the Bible well?" "I know it better than anything!" The student said, " Then, can you quote 2 Timothy 2:24-25?" The preacher admitted he didn't have all of it memorized and pulled out his Bible and began to read it aloud: "And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness..." The preacher realized he was being hypocritical by yelling at everyone else for not knowing the Bible. He actually apologized and thanked the student. It was amazing to see. 😊

Which shows he was a true servant but misguided. Always love when people can humble themselves and accept they're wrong.

@@MarvelGamer2023 I love that also. It is rare

@@vhagerty If you know your Bible, John the Baptist was known as a "wild man," for he often spoke loudly and boldly before the people to repent. Nice try.

AudiS4 Fastisgood Amen Brother!

Another Amen.

Mormonism is a cult right? How much truth is there in this: some of my relatives where supposedly mormon, will mormonites visit my grave to bless it when I die?

@@danquilty6580 don't worry about it, my specialty is islam but in a way its very similar. Both are cults. Only use the bible, when you are truly born again (you will know), God will help you on your way. I simply can't understand why anyone would join a cult. God of the bible wants worshippers in spirit and in truth, and isnt that what we are searching for when we proclaim our faith (the truth)?

They never teach you not to believe the Bible.

It's not even the only inconsistency. The only thing consistent about the LDS church is the inconsistency.

All religions have huge inconsistencies

@@sdrrshock5594 religion was created by man. Jesus nor the Bible teach us to believe in religion. Both the Bible and Jesus told us to have faith in God and trust in Him alone. Man, religious leaders and organizations, are not the way. They should only provide structure and guidance, but their own pride turns them into false teachers.

Let's pray every Christian denomination do.

I believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. I have a question for you. Have you read the book of Mormon? yes or no

Personally, I believe the snake. The snake never tried to mislead humanity. The snake brought us truth- the power to separate good from evil. God wanted to keep that away from us, for some reason. Why, so we would stay wicked? Thank you Satan, for standing up to God, even AFTER he turned you into a snake for something you might potentially do in the future. God killed billions and lied all the time. Satan killed nobody and never lied. Prove me wrong!

? What Christian disagrees with that?

It takes brainwashing and manipulation to believe this nonsense.

Excuse the language but I have yet to figure out what the hell other Christians think they will be doing once they get to heaven

@@BrianTerrill they will be pets

@@BrianTerrill that is not your job to figure out the mind and creativity of our Creator. No one to this day can understand our universe or the full design of DNA. It makes me wonder why men think they can do better than Jesus our Creator.

@@sevrinvorndran351 that's not what he told me. Good thing I don't have to put my trust the in opinions of men and can go to him in prayer and learn all he wants to teach me

@@BrianTerrill I read the Bible and it tells me directly what we will be doing in Heaven ... maybe start there???? _"If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us"_ 2 Tim.2:12 Looks like I'll be reigning with my Lord in Heaven. I wonder who we will be reigning over??

Glad to hear you’ve been released from prison. That’s truly great. Do you have a response to Jeff’s question about Isaiah 43:10 in the video?

@@realitywins6457 reading it over. Could it be that Jesus Christ is applying this to himself as the Son of God? That God has had no Son before, nor any Son after? That the distinct role of Savior belongs alone to Jesus Christ? In the context of our world and our salvation as His children? I mean if you keep reading it doesn’t get into big picture rather it talks about the small details of their day, of Babylon. Are there not many gods and idols to worship at this time? So Jesus Christ reiterated His position as the only Son of God now or ever? Was he applying this to the whole universe and galaxy or to us?? If we apply it to the whole galaxy are we not adding scriptures to the prophecy? Honestly curious. Because in this scripture it is all historically speaking of the Israelites falling away from the one true Son of God. This is important because they were seeking a Savior? A messianic religious ruler? To this day actually. But Jesus defines himself as that Savior. The one and only. To take this scripture and then interpret it for your own points. To say. See Jesus said there has been no Gods before me, or will there be after and to completely ignore the context and fill it in with your own seems to make one guilty of the sin they are accusing this missionary of. Which is twisting the truth? Thoughts?

joseph smith jr.????

And I hope rational thinking can find you one day.

@@thanksforbeingausefulidiot9016 your name checks out 😂

@@DaftSandwich I love how people like you totally miss the irony that my name applies to them.

They both are being lied to by their church. Jeff believes in calvinism, which teaches that only some are chosen for heaven, and that everything is determined by God including sin. Both men are wrong.

@@livingforjesus8551 Gotta luv the certainty and mutual cancellation by the believers on these topics. The day all of you Christians finally reconcile and figure out what the truth is, please let me know. I won't hold my breath. If only we had a God that intervened and revealed himself and told us what he expects of us, these disputes might be settled. It's almost as if "he" is not there at all...

After going through a faith crises myself, one of the best things that I ever did was to actually learn (relearn) what faith is, what the purpose of life is, learn what repentance is, what the baptismal covenant is..... if you are ever open to learning with a fresh view what "Mormonism" is, check out the dozens of conference talks that Elder Anderson gives about faith.

@@Ether-pb5gb if you are ever open to learning with a fresh view what being a Christian is, check out: www.cru.org/us/en/how-to-know-god/mormonism-to-christianity.html or my favorite video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qJadls56nb7KnGw.html

@@Ether-pb5gb the problem is, the doctrine of the LDS faith has been proven wrong and even the last two prophets have admitted to this. I was raised in the church and know the difference between what is actually false prophesy and just false claims against the church... one must tread lightly when determining the difference. I suggest only using the LDS doctrine its self and not arguing bible interpretations

Amen!

Amen

Once in confession I'm a Catholic I told the trees that I had started reading philosophy and it gave me many questions. He said that was good and to keep reading to go deeper and that deep truths would rise. I'm paraphrasing

Yikes the priest not the trees

@@laurencopenhaver5366 Confess and ask for forgiveness of your sins to God in the name of Jesus Christ. Call no man Father. Stop praying to Mary and Saints. Stop holding and wearing rosaries when praying. Get rid of your false Jesus paintings and figures. Flee the false teachings taught in the Catholic Church. You’re deceived by your Church just like these Mormons are deceived by theirs. I hope you leave your church and flee from everything unbiblical. Pray to God for help. Read your Bible and cut through all the lies you have been fed by your Church. I hope the best for you!

I a ex mormon, i am a ex something..... bla bla bla. We dont know what is true or false. Who is wrong or who is right, it is all about fath. I dont understand these kind of people whose goal is try to destroy peoples faith.

@@rodrigolima1333 you wouldn't understand unless you understand and know that through the real Jesus Christ you have a renewed mind. I don't care if people don't want to hear it. I'd rather be obedient to God than man. All glory be to the Father in heaven 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@@josegodinesjr6452 I see. CHRIST is our Savior and Redeemer.

@@rodrigolima1333 Amen

Oh My God I remember you!!!

@ImaNewOrleansSaintsFan I'm not trying to make them look like fools. You oughta repent for assuming. The problem is you think you know everything other people are doing without asking them what they mean.

@@OCDlosp you know, not everyone who wears a cross is a Christian. So, might I ask how you knew that friend was a Christian?

Almost as if all religious people are insane.

im pretty sure his mom said something like "if you read the book of mormon you will become a Mormon" because that is statistically true

They both believe in crazy stories anyway

BelleAfricaine no he believes in things that he won't be able to explain to someone who thinks that they have everything figured out, I don't like this preacher, seems to me he's got better things to do than to attack something he doesn't understand, and please, don't tell me that someone who has been Mormon for over 30, years doesn't know what he's talking about, and what he's willing to share, you don't cast pearls before swine.

BelleAfricaine faith is believing in things you cannot prove!

Latter-day Saints aren't brought up to argue with each other and poke at the supposed falsehoods of others. As missionaries we preach faith in Christ and repentance. Speaking if defending, you don't plan on telling me that there is a single Christian or pastor on Earth that can honestly defend the Trinity? I mean, Jesus praying to himself, really? Jesus saying on the cross "Jesus why has this thou Jesus forsaken me?" Or Jesus telling himself during his baptism " This is me, Jesus, and I am well pleased in myself"??? What kind of made up BS is the Trinity? Joseph Smith had it right. The father and the Son are two separate persons

Mormonism is super pathetic like walking a drunk retarded Seal trying to sing

I know for a fact he reads the bible every day

And?

" Please lead him to read your Word"

I am also pretty sure he prays for the same thing for others like yourself

He seemed clueless about the passages Jeff mentioned to him.

The Lord says not to be unequally yoked?

@marrisakate1622 He does. He also says to proclaim his holy name to all. I have faith that she will soon see the light. I was an unbeliever at one time, and the woman I was with at that point in my life got me to Jesus. I should try and do no less.

There is no easy way into heaven. If you die before you get there, you've been manipulated by false doctrine.

@@GriffinWelch Actually there is. The Word has said if you believe in Jesus, you would never perish and have everlasting life. Yes, we may die in our flesh. But afterwards? That's gonna be the best thing I would have ever experienced. Jesus is the Way, Truth and the Life. No one can enter Heaven and except through Him, bro.

may we just be happy and stop believing in reassuring fables.

Jeff? Sure thing

It's been five years. How many of your prayers were answered? Did world peace arrive? An end to hunger and rape? What exactly have you been praying for, for crying out loud?

why were you excommunicated?

@@masondavies905 We were never excommunicated from the church. However, we were excommunicated from the family. Because... My uncle shot and killed his wife in an LDS parking lot. Him and his wife had two young boys at the time. There was a huge custody battle between my family and the wife's family. My mother knew my family was too mentally ill to take care of them and how she put it: "We already took away their daughter, now we're going to take away the boys?". She went to the wife's family lawyer and basically told them we were incapable of raising them, etc. Well, my family didn't like how she went 'behind their backs'. So long story short, they haven't communicated with us really since 2009. I'm thankful however. After my mom passed I talked to the mother of the wife (she has custody). She thanked me for what my mother had done, and told me to stay away from my family. She is the sweetest Christian woman I have met, and I'm thankful the boys have her. 🙏

I hope to encourage you. Jesus doesn’t care about religion. He cares about our faith in Him alone and wants us to seek a relationship with Him. ❤

I left the church and tonight was baptised to become a real Christian!!! N have a proper relationship with my saviour and my Heavenly Father ❤. Still love some of the members, still really good friends ❤️, but I just don't believe in there gospel anymore!!! Sorry

@@laurenworlton7941 Somehow you tied the Mormon Church being bad and excommunication, to your uncle murdering people in a parking lot! Man what kind of stretch is that?

I wasn't feeling any love.

You can't feel love when you don't have the love of Christ inside you. Your own organization teaches the Trinity through the books you believe: 2 Nephi 31:21 Alma 11:44 D&C 20:28 And yet, your organization will deny the Trinity because they don't seriously believe these books, only what the leaders of LDS will say despite contradictions. Here are more contradictions: D&C 75:25 _"Behold, I say unto you, that _*_it is the duty of the church_*_ to assist in supporting the families of those, and also to support the families of those who are called and must needs be sent unto the world to proclaim the gospel unto the world."_ Is ANY money (not how much) given to EACH family for the boys to spend 2 YEARS proclaiming the gospel unto the world? I know for a FACT (not opinion) that the church spends ZERO money and the family must raise *ALL* the funds on their own. In order to just "ASSIST IN SUPPORTING" these families, each boy should receive at LEAST $6,000 a YEAR or $12,000 for the 2-year duration of their service from LD$ with global funding to be a minumum of $8 million a year. This contradiction, not with the Bible, but LD$ published books that Mormons regard as true. Where there is smoke ... there is fire and many other contradictions can be easily reviewed. We can finally say with valid confidence that contradictions in the books of Mormonism do exists and these should be carefully examined by anyone seeking TRUTH to know that LD$ is not a true organization.

This poor young man.

Who is this Jeff bigot?

Christ said, "Blessed are the peacemakers." It is sad to see so much contention and misunderstanding. @apologiastudios took advantage of a young boy. I would be more than happy to sit down and have a real discussion with them on live stream of what LDS believe. There is not a single doctrine or teaching of the LDS faith that can't be substantiated by an appeal to the bible. The ignorance on this page needs to stop. People who claim that Mormons worship Joseph Smith or other men lie. Stop believing lies that other people have told you about the LDS faith. LDS people worship God only. We only pray to God. We believe that only through Christ can we or anyone be saved. It is by his grace. As to the doctrine of becoming "gods," let me first ask you if you sincerely believe Christ and the bible? If I were to show it unto to you, would you believe it? Probably not. For those sincerely seeking the truth though, here it is from the Bible and Christ himself. The Jews sought to condemn and kill Christ because he claimed to be the Son of God. To claim he was the Son, made him equal with God, because it meant he would be an heir to God. His response to them is classic, because he uses the Old Testament Psalms 82:6, to not only answer that he was the Son of God, but to point that they themselves were sons of God, and thus destined to be gods themselves. "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scriptures cannot be broken." John 10:33-38. Those of you who have ears, let them hear. Christ said, "Blessed are the peacemakers." It is sad to see so much contention and misunderstanding. @apologiastudios took advantage of a young boy. I would be more than happy to sit down and have a real discussion with them on live stream of what LDS believe. There is not a single doctrine or teaching of the LDS faith that can't be substantiated by an appeal to the bible. The ignorance on this page needs to stop. People who claim that Mormons worship Joseph Smith or other men lie. Stop believing lies that other people have told you about the LDS faith. LDS people worship God only. We only pray to God. We believe that only through Christ can we or anyone be saved. It is by his grace. As to the doctrine of becoming "gods," let me first ask you if you sincerely believe Christ and the bible? If I were to show it unto to you, would you believe it? Probably not. For those sincerely seeking the truth though, here it is from the Bible and Christ himself. The Jews sought to condemn and kill Christ because he claimed to be the Son of God. To claim he was the Son, made him equal with God, because it meant he would be an heir to God. His response to them is classic, because he uses the Old Testament Psalms 82:6, to not only answer that he was the Son of God, but to point that they themselves were sons of God, and thus destined to be gods themselves. "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scriptures cannot be broken." John 10:33-38. Those of you who have ears, let them hear. I would be more than happy to explain or answer any sincere questions of the LDS faith-- and I will do it with just the bible.

then why in the actual FUCK are they being sent to preach this message?

God disproves the LDS church. God has already said that He is the only God there ever was, is or will be. Isaiah 43:10 “You are My witnesses,” declares the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. Isaiah 44:6 “For the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts says this, ‘I am the First and I am the Last; And there is no God besides Me. Isaiah 44:8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any. Isaiah 45:5 “I am the Lord, and there is no one else; There is no God except Me. Isaiah 46 “To whom would you liken Me And make Me equal and compare Me, That we may be alike? “Remember [carefully] the former things [which I did] from ages past; For I am God, and there is no one else; I am God, and there is no one like Me, 1 Kings 8:60 - That all the people of the earth may know that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

@@jlewis8145 we believe in God.

@@scottmathusek7833 Christians do not believe in the LDS God. Christians worship the Creator, the true and living God who is transcendent, eternal, has always been God and spoke the planets and the star Kolob into existence. God is the first, uncaused cause of everything you see. God does not have a mom and dad. God the Father is invisible and a spirit. I Timothy 1:17 God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333). “The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s . . . ” (D&C 132:20). God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3). “God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see,” (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345). God the Father had a Father, (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105). God resides near a star called Kolob, (Pearl of Great Price, p. 34-35; Mormon Doctrine, p. 428). God had sexual relations with Mary to make the body of Jesus, (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, 1857, p. 218; vol. 8, p. 115).

I like it when morons are arguing mormons.

Yep! Probably pressured and brainwashed all his life to serve a mission!

What you get when you send out 18-year-olds, that barley know what their own church really believes.

@Azreth Oh no. !!! ...Only the Holy Spirit equips and teaches Truth sanctifies, gives light, convicts. The God of the Bible Holt Spirit revealed to me 1 afyernoon when I asked about Mormons because I knew some were going to someones home I knew and the warning bells went off. With great discomfort I heard and never forget it : THERE IS ONE BOOK MY BOOK AND IT SAYS "THUS SAITH THE LORD" !!! THIS IS TRUTH FROM ERROR EPHESIANS 5:11 KJV TAKE NO PART IN.TJE UNFRUITFUL WORKS OF DARKNESS BUT EXPOSE THEM. AMEN AND AMEN ( NO ADDITIONS OR SUBTRACTIONS REVELATIONS 21:18-19 KJV) MORMONISM IS A CULT UNBIBLICAL THROUGH AND THROUGH THEY SERVE A DIFFERENT JESUS... 2 CORINTHIANS 11:1-4 KJV COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM 2 Corinthians 6:17 KJV Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive ... Need to come out of this falsehood. I.pray Jesus gives you light of the Holy Spirit ..your sight Amen

They all should of stoped especially the leader of the mormans there and y’all about Jesus because Isn’t that what there leaders say they are doing is talking about Jesus lol?

Brainwashed by false doctrine and deceptive teaching of a religion made by a man who was a false prophet. No one can serve two masters. Mormons think they can follow the teachings of Joseph Smith, and God at the same time.

Wow. That seems to be exactly what that guy believes.

Exactly that's what Devils do

@@firesondiego7666 now the fall was an accident in supposed to be it wasn't planned it was Defiance against his plans God knew it was going to happen that doesn't mean he intended to happen whole point of the story is to show that they defy God's will he had to make a new plan to fix it

@@firesondiego7666 know what he said he said less than a half truth which was actually a lie in itself you're defending Satan saying Satan is good now you're a luciferian a Satanist a woman who is a Satanist exactly the same thing Mormons are satanists

@@firesondiego7666 but they did die they lost their eternal life

+Coldandugly Now that's a story that speaks to my heart. Those female missionaries will always remember that you were kind enough to take the time to share with them something from their Bible, something that they definitely never saw or heard before. If they're asking you not to leave for a funeral, just so you can continue the conversation, you know what they learned from you and the Bible touched their hearts. Nobody can remove that seed from their hearts, not even their superiors. Thanks for sharing this.

Thanks, man.

You tried your best, Cold And Ugly (cool name, btw). I was a missionary also, and let me tell you, that same scenario happens all the time. My companion and I were read the Riot Act by one of our superiors when news reached him that we were sharing with investigators what we were personally learning from the Bible (things that were in contrast to church writings). He didn't kill my joy. I doubt the girls in your story lost theirs either. They were just scared.

Dear Gorilla, we don't have our own Bible... We use the KJV of the Bible..all day, every day, Sunday school, scripture study, personal study, etc. If you have any questions for me...please feel free to ask and I will use the bible that you use to discuss any concern you have...If you used The Book of Mormon to prove something to the sister missionaries, please share it with me. One minute you said you used their bible, the next you said you couldn't agree with something that wasn't found in bible teachings... so, what exactly were you trying to point out to the sweet young ladies.

nannykiki in Moroni 8:18 it says Heavenly Father God is unchangeable. However, LDS teaches from the words of Joseph Smith that He is progressing. My dictionary says those things words are opposites. We have a contradiction between the BoM and LDS. There are contradictions between the BoM and D&C as well. It comes down to which one is right and which is wrong. Which book is true and which is false. That is how contradictions work and the reason why LDS fails.

Lmaooo, like that's any better. 🤣

@@mitchclover258 Let's be gentle bro. :)

Hi Karkki, perhaps the Church the Bride of Christ is whomever is born again in the Spirit which Jesus spoke of, regardless of and without the need of denominations & schisms? Peace be with ya

@@mitchclover258 um, believe me bro, it's much better, Orthodoxy is actually about as great as it gets. Y'all Keep drinking that skim milk boys, this nigga is drinking straight raw milk 👌🏻 ☦️

@@karkkimarkkinat2109 Naw bro they all are corrupt cultist churches of lies.

The kids brainwashed. He got a wake up call. Or maybe not

Hebrews4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Amen. It's confusing why this isn't obvious to Mormons, perhaps they rather praise a man who was an adulterer, polyandry abuser, child molester and convicted criminal with many contradictions and changes to the book he wrote using stones in a hat instead of trusting the one who died for their sins so that by faith alone, they could be saved.

@@georgebauerschmidt5289 so what your saying is that Joseph Smith was saved and went to heaven because of faith alone.

@@sonar245 Joseph Smith only had faith in himself, his ego, his greed and his perversions. He used his life as an adulterer, polyandry abuser, child molester, convicted criminal and sorcerer using many contradictions and changes to the book he wrote using stones in a hat instead of trusting the one who died for our sins so that by faith alone, he could be saved. He was also guilty of blasphemy many times revealing false information about who GOD was, His nature and His desires. Joseph Smith was a pervert as many Mormon Bishops have followed suit in similar disgusting practice: September 2008 - bishop *Timothy McCleve* pleaded guilty to sexually molesting children March 2010 - bishop *Lon Kennard, Sr.* was charged with 43 felony counts of sex abuse December 2013 - bishop *Todd Michael Edwards* was sentenced to three years in prison for molesting two teenage girls January 2014 - bishop *Michael Wayne Coleman* was arrested and charged with luring a minor for sexual exploitation August 2017 - bishop *Erik Hughes* pleaded guilty to sexually abusing two teenage boys

So heaven is just handed to each of us on a silver platter? Good to know. I'm convinced there are as many denominations of Christianity as there are Christians. No two can agree about any tenant of this nonsensical religion.

Jesus seals up vision and prophecy [Daniel 9:24]. This verse shows Muhammad and your buddy’s prophet Joey Smith false. These wolves in sheep’s clothes are blatantly shown wicked by their fruit. If anyone still prophesies, his own parents will stab him. Cf. Zechariah 13:3-4. The Mormon view repudiates the finished work of Christ. God now sends his messengers to the churches, as there could not be prophets. I.e. Revelation 2 & 3. Joseph Smith received revelation that the garden of Eden is actually in St. Louis Missouri. Anyone believing that ol’ Joey is a prophet is mentally deficient.

@A Proud Believer Q7:157 is confirmed in Deuteronomy 18:20, not 18:18. Why would Allah claim Muhammad is mentioned in the Scriptures of the Jews and Christians, unless their texts were reliable?

@A Proud Believer the following verse emphatically declares and adroitly shows that our belief in Easter is central to our salvation. Romans 10:9 “If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.” To summarize, YOU WILL BE SAVED! That is, if you do not believe, you will be humbled (not proud). Are we gullible stooges for believing in Easter? If Islam is true, (Surah 4:157-58) why would Allah fake Jesus’s cruxifixction and intentionally deceive people for six hundred years, only to later reveal this to Muhammad? Truly silly. Satan is the greatest of deceivers, not God. (Surah 3:54) If Muhammad was not illiterate, he would have read the secular historical accounts of Christ’s crucifixion written by Jesus’s contemporaries. Anyone today, can still find these discoverable documents. Lucian of Samasata was a sarcastic atheist who verified his public crucifixion, a fact confirmed by the Babylonian Talmud. Jesus’s public crucifixion was also confirmed by neutral parties such as Tacitus, Josephus and Pliny, not to mention the many others who loved and followed him. His death and resurrection defines who we are in God and distinctly separates us as proud believers of what he did for us. I’m not sure how anyone could believe in someone that received divine revelation, that the sun sets in a pool of muddy water? Q18:86

@A Proud Believer if “Islam is truth,” as you claim, why have you not responded? As originally stated, Daniel 9:24 provides a specific Time-Text, for precisely when “all vision and prophecy” was “sealed.” I.e. More than two thousand years ago. As Jesus is the Messiah or the Christ; our Lord fulfills Daniel’s prophetic mission statement of the “Anointed One.” This verse clearly shows that anyone since fulfillment, [two thousand years] claiming to be a prophet, false.

Nothing to say? I didn’t think so.

What is a god? How do you define it? Do you agree or disagree: 1. god created EVERYthing, including you 2. god KNOWS everything 3. god is all powerful and can do anything and god Controls everything 4. god is perfect by definition and cannot make mistakes Do you agree to all that? Then why pray? God can read your mind and already knows what you feel and think. What kind of a god would be petty enough to require you to grovel and beg? What kind of a god demands that you murder animals and your own children as "worship"? You reply: Oh, that was the Old Testament, we only take seriously the parts of the bible we enjoy, such as hating gays and ignoring logic. Jesus said " I AM HERE TO UPHOLD THE LAW, NOT TO OVERTURN IT" So you are required to take every word of the insanity of Leviticus LITERALLY. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aamAnbqVmbO5iKc.html​ x If you are flawed / sinful, whose fault is that? YOURS or the god that deliberately made you that way? Oh, you had a choice to be sinful or not? WHY would a god set up a trap like that in the first place? How is that loving or rational? As a parent of your children, do you put out candy, hide, and if they eat the candy you told them not to eat, do you jump out of hiding and BEAT the shit out of your kids? Your god is pretty enthusiastic about judgement, threats and punishments. You must enjoy that very much, judging and condemning others every day, as if you were a god. x Why should you be "tested"? GOD MADE YOU so if you're flawed, that is the fault of GOD, who could have simply made you perfect to begin with. x If there is suffering, who created it but god, who invented and controls EVERYTHING? Why would you respect, obey or worship a cruel sadist? x Why would god set humanity up to fail>? IF god is INFALLIBLE, what is the logical explanation for god's creation of EVIL / satan / sin? If humanity is too imperfect to understand these questions,, then how are YOU so perfect that you can write / interpret a book or invent a church or preach and arrogantly claim to speak for god? x Why would an all powerful god bother to use books, churches, messengers, signs, angels, prophets, threats, punishments and other bull when it could simply SPEAK DIRECTLY and unambiguously directly to every person? Isn't it a LOT more likely that religion is a con game scam invented to manipulate desperate and weak minded people? A DRUG for the weak and desperate and stupid. A tool for the spiteful and judgmental. An easy way to make money for the con man. That is religion. x If you are too stupid to understand the bible and need a church to explain it to you, HOW are you smart enough to know which of the thousands of churches and books is real? FEELINGS are not facts, they're subjective whims. If Christ is so peaceful, why are there literally DOZENS of churches that have MURDERED and TORTURED and PERSECUTED each other in his name for CENTURIES of religious WARS? Why are there literally HUNDREDS of versions of this "perfect" book, and why have so many christians tortured and executed non christians for centuries? x Oh YOU are so perfect and pure that jesus speaks directly and only to you..........right mister church man? No. There is no santa claus, easter bunny, jehova, buddha, allah, jesus or Ronald McDonald. x The only thing that produces good things in life is OBJECTIVE REASON: SCIENCE AND RATIONALITY, not ghost stories. x x Oh, "god is everywhere?" Then why do I have to come to your stupid building to see god? Oh, "god loves everyone"? Then why in church do you baptists and catholics and other psychotics yell at people, tell them that they are "sinful" and threaten them with hell? I think that's called bullying, not loving. Oh, "salvation is free"? Then why do churches like the mormons and catholics and evangelical TV creeps constantly strongarm people to give huge amounts of money? x kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aamAnbqVmbO5iKc.html​ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aamAnbqVmbO5iKc.html​ Only Objective REASON and LOGIC deserve your respect\ Why allow anyone to TRAIN you to bow down like a dog or a slave or a robot? Think for yourself, rely on yourself, be RATIONAL not superstitious. Think for a moment. Did a bunch of people PRAY and beg, then suddenly computers and the internet arrived? NO. it was LOGIC and REASON that created this thing you are using, NOT GOD. REASON and Logic and SCIENCE should not be used to spew this superstitious bullshit. Think about it. The symbol of your sick religion is a TORTURE DEVICE. Drink my blood, eat my flesh, obey like a zombie! \WHO BENEFITS FROM YOUR blind obedience? Who profits? the concept of god is a man made fraud If you want to be good, be good. You don't need the fear of punishment or the dangling of a carrot as if you were a donkey, but that is ultimately how religion will treat you. Think about it. The symbol of your sick religion is a TORTURE DEVICE. Drink my blood, eat my flesh, obey like a zombie! Your religious beliefs make No Logical Sense Whatsoever.

YEs, these missionaries need protecting. Thank you so much.

"Don't believe those fairy tales! Believe THESE fairy tales!" The blind leading the blind.

Hahaha

@@JK360noscope he did 😂🤣

@ImaNewOrleansSaintsFan this was years ago. I tried lol

a gospel truth is only revealed to the meek and humble peoples who are willing to ask and knock from the Lord to gain personal testimonies

@@tonnysarpong5090 are you trinitarian then?

I’m a Mormon, and we don’t punish members for reading anti-Mormon literature, we just encourage them to figure out what they believe for themselves, and I’m sorry if someone said that or made you think that, but we don’t punish members for doing that.

@@ponder2406 hey man maybe punishment is the wrong word (maybe it’s not) but you can certainly lose your temple recommend or be denied one for reading anti Mormon literature. And as you know exaltation isn’t possible without temple ordinances

@@bryanscottmills I agree, you can be denied it, but I’m just saying, we try to encourage people to do better. Also, I still respect your religion and your beliefs.

@@ponder2406 I have the utmost respect for Latter Day Saints as well. They tend to be good moral people. I just hope to help people find who I believe is the real Jesus and experience his grace. God bless ♥️

@@bryanscottmills I Agree completely👍. And same to you

Spot on

*Restoring Biblical Truth:* John the Baptist referred to Christ as a man: “This is he of whom I said, After me cometh *_A MAN_* which is preferred before me: for he was before me” (John 1:30). The apostles referred to Christ as a man after his ascension into heaven: “Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, *_A MAN_* approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know” (Acts 2:22). “Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by *_THAT MAN_* whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead” (Acts 17:31). “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, *_THE MAN_* Christ Jesus” (1 Timothy 2:5). “For *_THIS MAN_* was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honor than the house” (Hebrews 3:3). “But *_THIS MAN,_* because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood” (Hebrews 7:24). “For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that *_THIS MAN_* have somewhat also to offer” (Hebrews 8:3). “But *_THIS MAN,_* after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God” (Hebrews 10:12). We also read in Philippians 2:8-9 that Christ was “found in fashion as *_A MAN”_* and that God *_“EXALTED HIM.”_* The Prophet Joseph Smith said, “God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did.” Jesus Christ himself said: “The Son can do nothing of himself but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. For the Father loveth the Son and sheweth him all things that himself doeth” (John 5:19-20). You might want to read that again. Christ clearly stated that he cannot do anything unless the Father has already done the same thing, and Christ stated that his Father showed him “all things” that he, the Father, has done, which means our Heavenly Father “dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did.” And since Jesus Christ was in the “form of God,” when he took upon him flesh to become a man, and was then “exalted” to sit down at the right hand of the Father, then God is clearly a MAN who is “exalted.” The Biblical scriptures cited above prove without a doubt that: “God himself was once as we are now and is an exalted man . . . . God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did” (Joseph Smith, the King Follett Discourse, April 1844). Joseph Smith never said or implied that God was at one time “sinful.” Joseph Smith said that our Heavenly Father “dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did,” and we know Jesus Christ led a sinless life so that, as the Son of God, he could atone for the sins of man. Christ was once as we are now. He was “perfected” on the “third day” (Luke 13:32) and rose from the dead with a glorified celestial body. He is now seated in heaven at the right hand of the Father. Our Heavenly Father did what Jesus Christ did, and our Heavenly Father led a sinless life when he dwelt on an earth. Yes, all the Biblical scriptures cited above tell us that “God himself was once as we are now and is an exalted man.” If you skipped reading any of them, go back and read them all. It is, after all, the Bible. And 1 Peter 5:6 states: “Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God that he may *_EXALT YOU_* in due time.” *The Restored Gospel Clearly says Jesus Christ led a Sinless Life* Joseph Smith stated that Jesus Christ “had no need of repentance, *_having no sin,_* according to his solemn declaration to John:-now let me be baptized: for no man can enter the kingdom without obeying this ordinance: for thus it becometh us to fulfil ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS.” The Book of Mormon states: “And now, if the Lamb of God, *_he being holy,_* should have need to be baptized by water to fulfil all righteousness, O then, how much more need have we, being unholy, to be baptized, yea, even by water” (2 Nephi 31:5). The Book of Mormon also states that Christ “suffereth temptation, and *_yieldeth not to the temptation,_* but suffereth himself to be mocked, and scourged, and cast out, and disowned by his people” (Mosiah 15:5). “Wherefore, redemption cometh in and through the *_Holy Messiah;_* for he is *_full of grace and truth”_* (2 Nephi 2:6). In a revelation through the Prophet Joseph Smith, Christ said: “Listen to him who is the advocate with the Father, who is pleading your cause before him- “Saying: Father, behold the *_sufferings and death of him who did no sin,_* in whom thou wast well pleased; behold the blood of thy Son which was shed, the blood of him whom thou gavest that thyself might be glorified; “Wherefore, Father, spare these my brethren that believe on my name, that they may come unto me and have everlasting life” (Doctrine and Covenants 45:3-5). The Doctrine and Covenants also states: “Wherefore, the Almighty God gave his Only Begotten Son, as it is written in those scriptures which have been given of him. *_“He suffered temptations but gave no heed unto them._* “He was crucified, died, and rose again the third day; “And ascended into heaven, to sit down on the right hand of the Father, to reign with almighty power according to the will of the Father” (Doctrine and Covenants 20:21-24). Among statements by the prophets and apostles that have led the Church are these: “If it were not for the perfect, *_sinless_* life of the Savior, which He willingly laid down for us, there could be no remission of sins.” “With His divine sonship, His *_sinless_* life, the shedding of His blood in the Garden of Gethsemane, His excruciating death on the cross and subsequent bodily Resurrection from the grave, He became the author of our salvation and made a perfect Atonement for all mankind.” “Were it not for the blessed gifts of repentance and forgiveness this would be a hopeless situation for man, since no one except the Master has ever lived *_sinless_* on the earth.” “I speak of Mary of Nazareth, espoused to Joseph, destined to become the mother of the only *_sinless_* man to walk the earth.” “To the duty designated by his Father, he turned his face, pledged his heart, and gave his life. And what a *_sinless,_* selfless, noble, and divine life it was. Jesus labored. Jesus loved. Jesus served. Jesus wept. Jesus healed. Jesus taught. Jesus testified.” “We knew we would sin and make mistakes-perhaps even serious ones. But we also knew that our Savior, Jesus Christ, had pledged to come to earth, live a *_sinless_* life, and voluntarily lay down His life in an eternal sacrifice.” In “The Living Christ,” which was signed by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles on January 1, 2000, it states, “Though *_sinless,_* He was baptized to fulfill all righteousness.” Joseph Smith’s translation of Hebrews 7:26 reads: “And not as those high priests who offered up sacrifice daily, first for their own sins, and then for the sins of the people; *_for he needeth not offer sacrifice for his own sins, for he knew no sins;_* but for the sins of the people. And this he did once, when he offered up himself.” The incorrect translation of Hebrews 7:26 in the King James Bible states that Christ has committed sin. It reads: “Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, *_first for his own sins,_* and then for the people’s: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.” The definition of Atonement in the LDS Bible Dictionary reads in part: “Jesus Christ, as the Only Begotten Son of God and *_the only sinless person_* to live on this earth, was the only one capable of making an atonement for mankind. By His selection and foreordination in the Grand Council before the world was formed, His divine Sonship, *_His sinless life,_* the shedding of His blood in the garden of Gethsemane, His death on the cross and subsequent bodily resurrection from the grave, He made a perfect atonement for all mankind.” And there is the definition of Christ in the LDS Bible Dictionary, which reads in part: “He was born of Mary at Bethlehem, *_lived a sinless life,_* and wrought out a perfect atonement for all mankind by the shedding of His blood and His death on the cross.” Yes, God is an EXALTED MAN who led a sinless life during his mortal ministry so that he could atone for our sins. Jesus Christ has restored his true doctrine in these latter days, and it all begins with reading the Book of Mormon. Contact The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the missionaries will bring you a free copy of the Book of Mormon.

Richard Jones, John 10:34 Explain, PLEASE!

You see, You can't pick and choose what scriptures you want to believe to build a man made practice upon. The spiritual TRUTH is one that most are afraid of and turn away from. Looking their thoughts and understanding to MAN and not unto YAH. The Mormon teachings, just as Christians, Jehovah's witnesses, Catholic, and all religion has placed a muzzle over the true spirit of the FATHER and went into teaching blasphemies. False prophets are at Large and most are cultured by religion. Man takes for himself his own life and teachings, being not of the FATHER in heaven. I say this sure to one fact, that nowhere in a Bible does it say to be associated, nor label yourself by a religious belief. But only to become a Child of GOD. When we all stop arguing RELIGION and put the one True GOD in our frontal, then and only then will the understanding of CHRIST or Lord be manifested in the body. Take another look at what the church is and the word of GOD. You'll be elated, only if you mean righteous intent to sell TRUTH and examine oneself.

sons of God, through marriage to Christ. (The only _begotten_ son of the Father) Being a "son of God" is not like being God, not at all.

What happened after they are the fruit tho? Keep reading.. lol

Satan's the ultimate deceiver. He's the father of lies. That's basically his second language. He wants to plant a diversion from the truth inside that young man's head, sad.

Satan is the father of lies. His nature is to lie. It's his first language.

Mormons are not Christians because they reject so much about Jesus Christ. They also reject being "born again" which Jesus Himself requires in John 3:3 Jesus was not created, but endures forever as we can see in D&C 20:28 or Mormon 7:7 You wrote: _"Mormons have a personal relationship with their Heavenly Father"_ Christians have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ as HE is the only way to the Father. (John 14:5-14) The pure love of Christ is not being part of the WORLD but being adopted in the family of Christ. When you are worried about the world you love the world, not Jesus.

@@sevrinvorndran351 Make no mistake in your judgement.

@@Koppenholle1 no mistake when I see millions leave the many different cults that are found all over the world and returning back to Jesus as their first and only master. Trying to serve an organization and Jesus at the same time never works. It's not Judgment, it's plain simple truth found in the Bible.

@@sevrinvorndran351 Misinformed, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is gaining annual membership and growing in membership.

@@Koppenholle1 so is Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh-day Adventists, Restored Church of God and even atheism. There will always be the misinformed that will be swayed by false advertising but many that will continue to learn truth and walk away. Those are the lucky ones.

Jude 1:3 “Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.”

Yeah 18 and 19 year olds, old enough to learn to be able to handle debates and disagreements that won't align with their beliefs. If they don't want their cute fantasy bubbles being threatened then they should've just stayed home

Tough! I'm 16 and am learning how to defend my faith. If they want to have it easy and not be questioned especially when there's literally zero history to back mormonism up, then they shouldn't try to convert people to their religion!