Pathfinder: WotR | DLC Guide - Overview, Rankings, When To Play Each
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Күн бұрынTalking about what each paid DLC is and adds to the game, my personal rankings for them all, and when each one fits into the games campaign overall.
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00:00 Intro
01:19 Inevitable Excess
04:36 Treasure of the Midnight Isles
06:16 The Last Sarkorians
07:11 Lord of Nothing
09:23 A Dance Of Masks
11:04 Through The Ashes
13:28 Summary/When To Play Each
17:10 Wrap Up
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@mick5779 Ай бұрын
I came for Pathfinder content and Guides, and so i stay for everything you do. I like the way you produce you're content how you put work hours in it. And your're way of thinking speaks for it self. Thank you Morti
@gregtuff4020 Ай бұрын
Hard agree.
@kudzukid12 Ай бұрын
100% agree… I even watch his content on stuff I never intend to play just because it’s Mort
@IlPane1505 Ай бұрын
Little correction about Treasure of the Midnight Isle. It doesn't unlock a dungeon in act 5, the unlock of the dungeon is staggered. Part 1 is Act 3, Part 2 is Act 4 and Part 3 is Act 5. You can complete it in one go in Act 5, however you can also do it pieces (which I prefer, I get bored by the end of a set of islands).
@Ixcez Ай бұрын
Yeah the only thing is I believe a lot of people miss the fact that you need to spend X days in the different acts before it unlocks which is probably why a lot of people misses when it's unlocked. You need to sleep/pass 18 days in act 3 to unlock part 1, no sleep/pass of days required in act 4 for part 2 but for part 3 you need to sleep/pass 4 days in act 5. No clue why they did this and there is no explanation or information given about this in game from what I remember.
@guyhigh45 Ай бұрын
I loved 'Through the Ashes'. The possibilities to play it through. The NPC you can save, all with their own little stories. No fights which you can just bruteforce through. Making use with the little loot you get. The rush, when I got a masterwork greatsword, which is almost a throw away item in the maingame. But you celebrate every little victory. Amazing DLC.
@Rambletripe1 Ай бұрын
I think Through the Ashes was my favaurite bit of the whole game, gritty high-stakes from the an ordinary person's perspective.
@Silverfin008 Ай бұрын
I loved 'Through the Ashes' too. Nice to get a different perspective on the attack on Kenabres.
@danielyetter7709 Ай бұрын
Hey Morty! I would love to see a video about party comps, different suggestions based on your character class/role, specific alignment comps, and which characters go well together. I feel like I’ve never seen a good video around that
@robert.r.g Ай бұрын
I have played this game extensively, so I don't really need such a guide, yet I am always excited when you post anything on WotR and am going to watch them all nonetheless!
@CysteicAcid Ай бұрын
I have 6 weeks vacation, I ll do this game finally, have it in steam with all dlcs
@kudzukid12 Ай бұрын
Gonna need more than 6 weeks! That’s awesome man… I really hope you enjoy your time with this gem! Try not to get discouraged and overwhelmed and just take it slow
@CysteicAcid Ай бұрын
@@kudzukid12 yeah. i ll start with Through The Ashes. I have played main to chapter 3 but had no time to continue
@maxmach4361 Ай бұрын
6 weeks might be enough to get out of the character creation, GL.
@Lancelotmetallover Ай бұрын
I regret to inform you, you are NOT finishing in 6 weeks
@s.t.5993 Ай бұрын
@@maxmach4361😂😂 agreed
@NexThaln Ай бұрын
Started watching your content three years ago. Now that all DLCs are out I will finally do my first playtrough of Warth of the Righteous!
@thegamerserpent4271 Ай бұрын
What build are you using?
@crow__bar Ай бұрын
I will note that the Treasure of the Midnight Isles becomes available in Act 3 and continues in Act 4, with the finish in Act 5. I think the wording in the video might have been a little vague. Otherwise, great video as always. Recently finished my 3rd playthrough, as well as playing through the newly released DLC. Love the love the game is getting from so many people now.
@crow__bar Ай бұрын
I will add that to access it in Act 3 and 5 you have to go to the Murky Grotto. To access it in Act 4, you have to go to the Nondescript Pier in the first area of the city. I am not sure if you can do all 3 phases of the DLC in Act 5, but I strongly recommend doing them in their respective Acts. This splits up the dungeon crawling into smaller segments throughout the game and makes the tedium more managable, if you are not a fan of just fighting enemies for hours straight.
@Alex-gl2dw Ай бұрын
I'm playing this DLC now and it's as boring as Beneath the Stolen Lands with just a cool bos with a bit of mystery at the end. I think it's mainly aimed at people who like to test builds. DLC in WotR also has nasty achievements, some rng.
@nestorgamer9746 Ай бұрын
@@crow__baryes you can do the whole massive dungeon in a single run in act 5 Wouldn't recognize tho unless you really like dungeon crawling
@garaktartv3647 Ай бұрын
bro has peak timing, i just started playing this with every DLC. thank you very much.
@HammerspaceCreature 28 күн бұрын
I'll probably never end up actually playing Inevitable Excess but I'm sure I technically have more hours in it than the main game if you include the character creator. Because it lets you make a max level character from scratch, you can just walk outside, long rest, take some gear from your companions and fight the demons up the hill to see how all of your build's mechanics interact. Totally worth.
@The_Mocker Ай бұрын
This guy has the most informative videos on everything Games he deserves all the props and i watch everything put out there for a reason
@jzargofarag Ай бұрын
You were the one who got me into this game, stumbled upon a video you made about pathfinder and it was the first video of yours i have ever seen, thanks to you I'm over a hundred hours in the game, probably in my top 3 favorite games of all time, and you became my favorite KZfaqr as well!
@sarahohara5806 Ай бұрын
Treasures of the Midnight Isles is far and away my favorite of the bunch. I loved the same roguelite DLC for Kingmaker which was still very rudimentary and basic but probably accounted for half of my playtime in that game. And this one just improved it on all levels. I just love that I get to build all of my characters for the standalone playthroughs. Reminds me of Icewind Dale. And I get to fully experience all of those more eccentric builds that I would otherwise never try. Because when I replay the main campaign I always get overwhelmed by all my choices since I have to nail myself down on one single class and build that I will end up married to for 140 hours, and that then often leads to me restarting somewhere in act I because this build I picked isn't quite what I expected. Having 5 characters to build is so much more enjoyable to me and locks me in neatly. I did fun off the cuff things like have a party of all-Dhampirs with undead animal companions that could use harm spells to heal. Or having 5 gnomes/halflings to have a party of under 4 foot tall. And this mode is pretty much infinitely replayable too.
@victordavila9812 Ай бұрын
Man you are my hero I just got the game with all the dlc in one go and had no idea what I was supposed to do with it this is very informative
@vitorl.2684 Ай бұрын
Thanks, Mort, this video was what I was waiting for before starting my first run of this game. I was really confused about the DLC and you've managed to make it easier for me to understand. Thanks a lot!
@Kimfakkel Ай бұрын
Just bought the game and all dlc's on GOG :) on sale atm. So this guide was perfect. New to the game only played like 12 h.. But loving it so far.
@Thumb818 Ай бұрын
Whenever I think of a question about a particular game and think I'm going to need to watch several youtube videos to answer my question, you have a video out with the exact title of that question. Thanks for all your hard work!
@knight_gabriel Ай бұрын
Just came here to say love your channel, love that you do, and I try to wander in wisdom. Thank you!
@vanvranken5709 Ай бұрын
Been looking for a guide on the DLCs, very informative
@miguelkiai Ай бұрын
Great content! I found this channel because os WOTR, and since then became your fan! Keep up the good work, and know that you have a fan all the way here in Brazil! Congrats!
@t.dmattocks6119 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the guide on when to play them! Very helpful. I'll keep this vid on hand for when I finally play.
@spookymacchiato5503 Ай бұрын
I didn't know I needed a video like this. Thank you for this
@mikepenhollow Ай бұрын
Thank you. That was extremely helpful. I always agonize over the order and fear of being locked out of something. You rock!
@karlklein2263 Ай бұрын
I actually took and modified the mythic path system for my own table top game I'm running.
@steele5823 Ай бұрын
Through the Ashes is easily my favorite Owlcat DLC. It pulled off the underpowered, resource-constrained, survival-oriented CRPG better than I’ve ever seen it done. It was incredibly balanced and I wish there was a full length game with that same vibe.
@FoxTheSniper7 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video! It helps a lot and was exactly what I needed to do my new playthrough
@tahkaimartin8050 Ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of DLC Guides so keep em coming ‼️
@ZeroRed78 Ай бұрын
Found this channel from the Pathfinder content and have loved seeing it achieve greater success since. I'll probably be waiting a bit to replay WOTR with all of the DLC because I burnt myself out on the game a bit with 3 full playthroughs (rookie numbers for Mort I know). But I'll always love it. The Owlcat games were the CRPGs I had been craving since NWN2.
@silentspartan46 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate all the work you do for WoTR (one of my favorite games) because finding stuff online like a wiki is an exercise in futility.
@angusmacintyre2414 Ай бұрын
I also love through the ashes. the underdog nature and focus on using skills instead of just fighting makes it a very different and satisfying experience to the main game.
@GreenerOdin Ай бұрын
Yeah, Through the Ashes was sick and I wish it was a bit longer, especially with how much part 2 pivoted in "vibe".
@9thimmortal Ай бұрын
I was just last night reloading the game with all DLC and thought “okay what order should I do this”. Perfect timing!!!
@ChroniclesofNoria Ай бұрын
Do I play Pathfinder? Nope. Do I watch the entire game all the way through though cuz it’s Mort? Hell yeah!
@kaidorade1317 Ай бұрын
Thanks for letting me know the order when to play the dlc! Makes everything less confusing!
@AhmedAmineHomman Ай бұрын
Thank you Mortismal for this video. I love how well structured and narrated your videos are. One can see, and enjoy, the amount of work behind. Congrats and keep up the good work ! P.S: I have finally made up my mind. I will buy ALL of WOTR DLCs.
@pernilles3123 Ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video! I'm seriously thinking about trying to get into Pathfinder cause it seems so much like an in-depth game!
@notCalle Ай бұрын
Through the Ashes absolutely deserves more praise, and especially when it was released, was the perfect palate cleanser before yet another mythic-powered run through main campaign.
@ajimzhao7502 Ай бұрын
i really hope they could make the roguelike part more huge than it is now. Imagine having building an entire party, facing enemy that's is random generated everytime. The trial and error would be so addicting.
@johnnyhath Ай бұрын
you and i enjoyed Through the Ashes for the exact same reasons; I *loved* it!
@gravediggermordekai7032 Ай бұрын
exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
@hex6606 Ай бұрын
thank you for still making pathfinder content sir
@ericjimenez4360 Ай бұрын
This was very informative on which dlcs i should have. Thanks!
@kayne8222 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid mort, have always wondered when to do dlc during story.
@josephanthony1277 Ай бұрын
Very helpful, thanks
@blackfistxu7953 25 күн бұрын
Great Video!
@sergical5 29 күн бұрын
Your videos are awesome dude. Buying this game now and watching to see which version is best to buy. Let's see!
@chuckwoods7321 Ай бұрын
I wish more of the dlc were integrated in the main campaign and not being stand alone campaigns. If every dlc has subclasses, a companion or expansion of current companions and dungeon/quest I would have gotten them all.
@toxickite93 27 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video! I am just buying the game now from the steam sale and wasn't sure what to get
@d34rth Ай бұрын
Your video is very serendipitous as I am currently in the weeds of Act 3! I can live without the Act 1 rod for this playthrough, so I'm looking forward to the more endgame-oriented DLCs.
@Terron29 16 күн бұрын
Great summary. Will help me know when to play each. I just bought em all. This game is so good I dont wana miss anything. Cant wait to see what OwlCat work on next. A new pathfinder game perhaps? :D
@Jasta85 Ай бұрын
I beat WotR twice but have not gotten into any of the DLCs as I needed a break from the game. This video is just what I needed, especially since the summer sale starts tomorrow.
@opethmike 25 күн бұрын
I feel like Mort gives good hugs
@mertgulgun6830 Ай бұрын
I really love midnight isles since it can be a short rogue-like run and see if my builds are working... And that's why it is a short run :D
@radisplayground Ай бұрын
Looking good.
@DarkDeamonFox Ай бұрын
i just finish my first playthrough(Azata), i didn't know if I will want the DLC but man, i gonna finish this game again :)
@DrZaius3141 Ай бұрын
To clarify in case somebody needs it: Season Pass 1 would be: Excess, Ashes, Treasure (ranked last, second to last and first) Season Pass 2 would be the other three. This leads to 4 reasonable purchasing options: a) Stingy Edition: Only the base game (12$/€) b) Consensus Edition: Base game + Season Pass 2 (29.40 Eurodollars; all the well-reviewed stuff) c) Mortym Super Fan Edition: Base game + SP2 + Ashes (34.60 Currencies; Mortym's favorite DLCs) d) Complete Edition: Base game + SP1 + SP2 (38.10 not-pounds; slightly more expensive, only adds stuff almost everyone hates) Personally, I went with option b. If I ever get bored with that, I could always add SP1 later.
@ConstrictedByReality Ай бұрын
Playing through a new full run now! The new Arcanist archetype from Dance of Masks is nearly a whole new class! ❤
@jacksnart9387 Ай бұрын
I will say inevitable excess is also fantastic to check end game builds, because you can test them out at end game right away to make sure everything works together how you think.
@dwaofhkjawsfp Ай бұрын
thanks bro
@chocopuddingcup83 Ай бұрын
I actually enjoyed the Midnight Isles. I love roguelike adventures and this one really scratches that itch of making your custom party and allowing you to sink your teeth right into the action and get into delving into dungeons without a ton of story and dialogue to bog things down.
@wizardwhohasmorempthanhp Ай бұрын
I wonder if another RPG developer will ever release a toolset like the one we got for Neverwinter Nights 1. I'd love to see what kind of modules creatives could come up with if they had easy access to everything they needed from WotR.
@valdrin3529 6 күн бұрын
I'd argue about midnight aisle since it starts in act 3 and you get a phase of the expansion over 3 acts you can get some nice magical items through it, including mask that gives +6 chr/wis in act 3
@EtherealLlama Ай бұрын
Helpful stuff, even though I need to get around to playing Kingmaker first. I know the first game isn't as hot of a topic, but I'd watch a similar video for its DLC.
@demoniovargas1093 Ай бұрын
This video is exactly what I need it since i wanted to play all dlcs but didnt know which one first.Pathfinder has replaced Final Fantasy games.It's my top RPG of last decade.Thanks for your videos.
@Taranchule Ай бұрын
I'm actually starting my first playthrough with Through the Ashes. I'm already a veteran of both Kingmaker and the tabletop game so I know what I'm doing in terms of mechanics (indeed, I own the original Wrath of the Righteous adventure path), and to me it seems logical to do the low-end story before proceeding to the main event.
@coconutologist Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Those DLCs don't seem like they can be beaten by a potato... Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.
@dsx7517 Ай бұрын
I just started playing this, what a great timing. Thanks for sharing. 👍
@eduardoserpa1682 Ай бұрын
Midnight Isles was excelent at easing me into the Pathfinder system until I felt confident enough to play on Core. I came from BG3 looking for challenge and build variety, and that's exactly what it gave me. I'm looking forward to experience the rest.
@pickletoes8612 Ай бұрын
Might be the best RPG ever. The turn based / real time combat button changed everything for me
@Jonnyraffs Ай бұрын
LOL I wondered why you liked my comment yesterday but didn't reply to it. Now I know. Mort, you're a beautiful man and don't let anyone tell you otherwise !!
@joel5956 Ай бұрын
I think I stopped my only WotR run somewhere in Act 2. It was for a lot of reasons (none of them being that I thought it was a bad game), but one reason is that I wasn't crazy about the class I picked. I might get the Midnight Isle DLC whenever I decide to try it again, just to test out a few classes.
@imALazyPanda Ай бұрын
Another through the ashes enjoyer, by far my favortie dlc. As much as i enjoy the power fantasy of the base game ive always been a bigger fan of lower fantasy high lethality games. My favorite tabletop sessions ive ever played were in Warhammer Fantasy RPG and the prompt was you are all peasants of some sort(have to pick a t1 peasant profession like farmer) and on the way back from market one day you were ransacked and pulled into skaven infested sewers, while transporting you the skaven were killed by something bigger, your goal survive and escape.
@shugonupa Ай бұрын
F*ck, I cannot believe I needed this info! Thank you! (I was too lazy to search online for the order of the dlcs 🤣😅)
@alexandrewildfire6405 Ай бұрын
The bigest issue i have with through the ashes is the artificial dificulty brought by most weapons given being broken and borderline useless. Without that is still dificult and requires carefulness, but feels less like bashing your head agaist a wall
@TheSkoneczny117 Ай бұрын
My own order of DLCs that I'll be going for as I play the game for the second time, before I played with no DLCs (and this time on Core): Base game prologue Through the Ashes Base game act 1 Inevitable Excess with my old character Base game acts 2-3 Lord of Nothing Base game acts 4-5 (with Midnight Isles)
@jamesswan314 Ай бұрын
Let's go
@rainen5744 Ай бұрын
Thanks again for all you do Mortim, love your content.
@DaveVoyles 20 күн бұрын
DLC will be on sale this week.
@rossjackson8259 28 күн бұрын
Looking back at this game, one of the things I really don’t like is the extent to which pathways and stories close themselves off with little explanation. I found in very punishing to play without a guide as locking yourself out of secrets/sidequests/stories happened so often. And because of the games size and length it meant I would never see that content. Games this big are hard to play more than once if you have kids and a job. At the same time.. it’s such a huge improvement over Kingmaker. I’m glad it exists and did well
@mattjharrisyahoo Ай бұрын
Regarding Inevitable Excess - you can get a completed save from someone else and get the bonus content for the main campaign without the pain.
@sinclairo3349 Ай бұрын
Thank you. That spares me all the usual reearch, when I decide to play the game. And following you for some time I know that I can trust your advice and opinions. Could you also do a non spoilery "what you have to know" for first time players. Which speels are essential. Important things the game does not tell you. Traps you can fall into when playing the crusades minigame. Or maybe general hints and advices for companions or specific quests, that might upset you because of poor design choices if you find out too late. assumed WotR has such things like kingmaker has. 😊
@JeysieC Ай бұрын
Oh thank you for this. I had been thinking of going back to Wrath now that all the DLC was out, and it's nice to know the best timing for everything. I'm also going to be curious how Through the Ashes stacks up to Varnhold's Lot in difficulty since it sounds like it has similar scarcity mechanics. (As while I loved the story in that DLC--especially Maegar's incredibly adorable romance--the combat was brutal enough due to the lower item availability that it was a serious challenge to beat.)
@Balcombe990 Ай бұрын
I’m shocked people didn’t like through the ashes. It’s so well written and a great contrast to the main story characters.
@AJCrowley0153 Ай бұрын
Pretty much the same ranking for me, except swapping Dance and Sarkorians. I really like the NPC
@mango78910 Ай бұрын
The way i was finishing up my first play through of the main game when mignight isles came out and it distracted me so much that I doubled my play time and to this day still haven’t finished that first save 😭. Idk it’s simple but I love that mode.
@thierrybarroca7364 Ай бұрын
Imho, Through the Ashes is better to play just after act 1 since you just went through the Kenabres attack and Lord of Nothing should be played during act 4 time skip as it makes a lot of sense in the time line. Great review as always !
@thomasmarchand7476 Ай бұрын
Awesome video, thank you! One question, Is it possible to still pick up the new companion from ‘The last of the Sarkorians’ if you are already past act1?
@MortismalGaming Ай бұрын
Yeah
@guitarheroaero3451 Ай бұрын
Off topic but I'd love to see a video someday on the Game of Thrones RPG from 2012 by Cyanide Studio! It's got a very interesting narrative and from a gameplay standpoint I found it reminiscent of Dragon Age Origins. It's not a great game by any means but if you're into A Song of Ice and Fire and/or Game of Thrones it's absolutely worth checking out
@TropicalParadox Ай бұрын
I just baught the season 2 pass and I wanted to ask , I'm doing my first play through this game and I just came out of the tavern in act one , do you think I should play the lord of nothing dlc before the main. Campaign since it then ties into act 5?
@leyasu888 25 күн бұрын
I use Inevitable excess as a build planner for wotr. You can plan out and see how your toon will look like at lvl20 and mythic 10 😂
@imperatorofman Ай бұрын
100 hours and i still feel lost at times. Im not a numbers person so crpgs are alwags a challenge. Thanks for your videos.
@noahdavis8626 Ай бұрын
Oh I cannot wait for the story supercut for this now that all the DLC is out. What mythic path are you running for your "last hurrah" playthrough?
@MortismalGaming Ай бұрын
Azata for the primary one, have to run through all of them a little for the video though
@gunosaguki1 Ай бұрын
I need to get started again, probably an azata playthrough as I did lich my first try. Sadly my save data was lost before finishing but I got mostly through the game but hadnt gotten the ending yet @_@ CRPGs are rare mood for me sadly due to their length :p
@Nostromo2144 Ай бұрын
You make me want to be a better...PF:WoTR player Mort! I want to update to the latest exp/dlc and start a new game...yet again. And I still haven't finished the game fully lol!
@skieochre3745 Ай бұрын
Game took me 200 hours without DLC. I don't need more content XD
@raycojosecanogonzalez8016 Ай бұрын
Doesn't Inevitable Excess add more stuff to the main campaign if you beat the secret boss in Unfair also?
@cpugwash7085 Ай бұрын
Yep, it does. The midnight fane's belt gets upgraded to the somewhat powerful +8 and increased crit range belt if you do.
@raycojosecanogonzalez8016 Ай бұрын
@@cpugwash7085 glad to hear I did not summoned 20 Elder elementals for nothing
@Amdor Ай бұрын
Through the Ashes wasn't bad at all - I quite enjoyed it... after I decided I need to replay first few hours cause character I made to be more rp-y needs to change into something more op to survive. I might actually replay Through the Ashes/Lord of Nothing after my current playthrough just to make next big playthrough harder - all the icecreams for the icecream god :D
@Thaurnol Ай бұрын
is there a rank, lorewise, for the mythic paths? like which mythic path gives you the most information about the world and such? i only played as aeon, then became a devil, then was surprised to see i could not corrupt galfrey and the end choices were bugged, so i only got a one unsatisfying ending and now, i can play the whole thing again
@MortismalGaming Ай бұрын
Angel is the most fleshed out for sure, but I'd say Gold Dragon is really the only one that disappoints these days. Devil has granted more content now.
@CharlesCraft50 Ай бұрын
I bought the base game, and I'm wondering if I should buy the mythic edition or just wait for the definitive edition because there are so many DLCs and many says the base game is good enough, but I'm still preoccupied in pathfinder kingmaker, so while I'm at it, I think I should wait for the definitive edition because I'd like to finish the first game.
@kintaro79 Ай бұрын
Excellent ranking! Really disliked inevitable excess - couldn't even finish it. Guess there is a reason to though! Almost want to put Treasure Isles to the side though cause I love love testing builds!
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