Most Innovative Car Of The 1960s: 1966-1970 Oldsmobile Toronado

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4 жыл бұрын

The most innovative car of the 1960s was the first generation 1966-1970 Oldsmobile Toronado. It may have looked like a sporty 2-door personal luxury car however looks can be deceiving. It was many years ahead of most cars of its era. Watch this video to find out why the 1966-1970 Oldsmobile Toronado was the most innovative car of its era.

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@lervin78
@lervin78 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather bought two ‘70 Toronados back in the mid 80s, using all the parts to restore one of them. Living in Ohio, he planned to use it for winter driving duty. But once finished with the restoration, he couldn’t bring himself to expose it to the salty roads. That car was a beast.
@smoothoperator7023
@smoothoperator7023 Жыл бұрын
What became of it??
@Aly_Son.2000
@Aly_Son.2000 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, what happened to it?
@balesjo
@balesjo 2 жыл бұрын
The 66-70 Toronados have to be hands down the most beautiful auto designs of that decade! Even by the early 80s when I was finishing college. I wanted a used Toronado as my first post-university car. Never got it but even today think it was a beautifully designed and appointed car.
@stigjr2410
@stigjr2410 4 жыл бұрын
I was ten years old in 1966 when my neighbor bought one. I was totally enthralled with the design. It was the beginning of a lifetime of love for car design.
@finddeniro
@finddeniro 4 жыл бұрын
1957 born. . The WOW Factor. .I remember. .
@cabforwardooo9983
@cabforwardooo9983 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite designs was the original Toronado, and I did become an automotive designer.
@mel1nda12ax7
@mel1nda12ax7 4 жыл бұрын
@@cabforwardooo9983: So, did you design the "cab forward" Chryslers and Dodges of the mid-'90s to early 2000s (Dodge Intrepid, Chrysler Concorde, 300M, etc.)? I think those had longitudinally-mounted engines like the Toronado did (as opposed to being transverse-mounted). Did those have a chain-drive system, with the transmission next to the lower left-hand side of the engine, similar to the Toronado's "Hy-Vo" drive system?
@cabforwardooo9983
@cabforwardooo9983 4 жыл бұрын
mel1nda12ax7 The short answer is maybe. The cab forward cars were inspired by a series of show cars done at the California studio. When they arrived in Michigan I was surprised that they looked so familiar, but I didn’t work on them. Some time later a guy who worked in the advanced studio where I had previously been assigned delivered a series of sketches to me that I had left behind. They were of a series of cars that represented my thoughts on what a future product lineup could look like. In those sketches were the three designs that came out of California. The guy who delivered the sketches to me said that the design director and the design chief looked at the sketches and were discussing what made the designs look futuristic. They decided it was the proportion made by placing the cab toward the front of the car. I called it the mid engine proportion, and someone came up with the term cab forward. I was never given credit, but that’s how management operated. The designer in California got credit, and he did an amazing job designing those original models, however I believe copies of my sketches were sent to him to execute in 3D. I also was involved with the design of a few of the first and second generation production LH models. As for the engine layout, the LH cars did have a longitudinal layout, but I don’t know how the power was delivered to the front wheels.
@NewtonWashinton
@NewtonWashinton 4 жыл бұрын
Towards the end of 1965 i was with my Dad at the Oldsmobile Dealership my Dad was getting a end of year deal on a new 98 Olds and i seen for the first time a new Toronado and i thought Wow that's a cool car and i asked my Dad about it and he knew all about the car, we were a family of 7 so for sure the 98 was in our future.
@jefflindeman
@jefflindeman 4 жыл бұрын
I was 12 years old in 1966 and crushed on the Toronado so hard from the magazine ads, that I made drawings and laid out my own ads in a notebook. And I can't help but think it played a roll in inspiring my eventual vocation as a commercial advertising photographer.
@salcollins2008
@salcollins2008 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best looking cars of it's day, reliable, powerful, comfortable, and bold.
@shelbukowski1443
@shelbukowski1443 4 жыл бұрын
One of the best looking ever.
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 3 жыл бұрын
All the biggest selling cars of this era were rear wheel drive. Nobody really wants a muscle car with front wheel drive. If the Tornados were rear wheel drive they would have sold millions.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubester4567 I don't think so. Without the FWD feature, the Toronado had no reason to exist because people who wanted a semi-sporty luxury coupe from GM would just buy Riveras.
@martentrudeau6948
@martentrudeau6948 4 жыл бұрын
I thought when this car was introduced that it was the most beautiful thing on the road. And it still looks good today. What a great machine.
@citibear57
@citibear57 4 жыл бұрын
I was 8 years old when the Toronado debuted. It was the most beautiful car I had ever seen. To this day, it and the '67 Eldorado are still my most favorite automotive designs. I still have my copy of the December 1965 Motor Trend, the Car of the Year issue that devoted many pages to the winner ...the 1966 Toronado. Unfortunately the cover has gone missing due to me frequently looking at the stories and pictures ...and dreaming 💓 My heart still races when I look at it today. Something that today's vehicles never do.
@michaeljacobson3605
@michaeljacobson3605 4 жыл бұрын
In 1966 my father was a salesman at Mossy Motors Oldsmobile in New Orleans. He drove home the first Toronado in New Orleans one night and let my brother and I both drive it. I was thirteen and my brother was twelve. I have never forgotten the experience. My father explained the front wheel drive to us and said it would never catch on. Boy was he wrong. Every time I see a Toronado I think back to that great night driving on Lovers Lane on Lake Ponchatrain. Thanks for the memories. Michael Jacobson
@tx2sturgis
@tx2sturgis 4 жыл бұрын
Was hoping you would mention as a sidebar that the Toronado drivetrain was so good it was used in the GMC motorhomes.
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. And the transmission in a highly modified form for the Vector W8 supercar.
@TheRealDrJoey
@TheRealDrJoey 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the Eldorado a similar drivetrain also?
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealDrJoey yes except for the Cadillac-specific engine, exactly the same. GM used to have what's called a B-O-P bellhousing pattern, Buick-Olds-Pontiac, that was also shared with Cadillac. That enabled those divisions to share transmissions separate from Chevrolet.
@HoosierDaddy_
@HoosierDaddy_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@acemobile9806 * I did not know about the Vector using a version of this. That car captivated me back in the day!
@brucethomas3100
@brucethomas3100 4 жыл бұрын
tx2sturgis It was also installed in the Revcon motorhomes as well.
@aspiringbillionaire332
@aspiringbillionaire332 4 жыл бұрын
The Toronados were some of the most beautiful cars ever built.
@danielrodriguez248
@danielrodriguez248 4 жыл бұрын
My exact thoughts
@bluesriot2
@bluesriot2 4 жыл бұрын
as a kid growing up in the 60's, i saw a lot of wild cars of the era, but nothing in the usa was as classy or had finer lines than an olds toronado imho thanks for this detailed look at a car i used to look at go by in awe
@aspiringbillionaire332
@aspiringbillionaire332 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluesriot2 I believe that the Toronado is just one of several cars they could produce today with the same body style but moderized drive trains and technology and it would sell like hotcakes.
@heygirlsup1820
@heygirlsup1820 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I’m 29. Never grew up around classic cars but when I first saw a picture I was enamored. It’s both space age futuristic and instantly classic at the same time. Timeless. IDK how they did it.
@robertking3130
@robertking3130 4 жыл бұрын
We did not see many of these in Australia, but I do remember one as a teenager. It was pearl green and looked very flash. There was an article in a magazine some years ago and it looked like the same car.
@leppel22
@leppel22 4 жыл бұрын
I had an 80's Toronado. Loved it. It was made like a tank but very luxurious inside. I was in an accident where someone hit me and their whole front end crumpled. Not a scratch on my baby. It was great in the snow too. My hubby had one too. Loved that car!
@maxxas5067
@maxxas5067 4 жыл бұрын
The 1966 Toronado looks like a 90s concept car. Way ahead of their time
@davidm5707
@davidm5707 4 жыл бұрын
The first one was possibly the best-looking GM car ever. It's too bad they messed with it so quickly.
@ruslanvaliullin7734
@ruslanvaliullin7734 4 жыл бұрын
More like the later 70's f-body cars. It had almost no influence on the 90's cars but I can see where you would get that from.
@dreibel
@dreibel 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that the first iteration of the Olds Aurora in the nineties took a number of styling cues from the original Toronados (particularly the rear end and tail lights. If Olds had only named it Toronado instead of beating their brains out chasing a youth market that didn't exist (because the kids had no money but their parents did), I'm sure they could've sold a lot more cars.
@ruslanvaliullin7734
@ruslanvaliullin7734 4 жыл бұрын
@@dreibel true
@deadfreightwest5956
@deadfreightwest5956 4 жыл бұрын
I hadn't made the connection between the styling cues of the '66 Toronado and the Cord, not even the wheels. When I was a kid, somebody down our block had a Toronado.
@Miata822
@Miata822 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Toronado. It was like something from the future when it came out and it aged well. The Buick Riviera of the same era was another good looking car built on the same platform.
@cadillac4100
@cadillac4100 Жыл бұрын
1967 -1970 Cadillac Eldorado was on that same GM E-body platform. The only difference was the Riviera was a RWD car until 1979. But I won't deny that the Toronado was the modern day trailblazer
@lembriggs1075
@lembriggs1075 4 жыл бұрын
Sure miss these cars! My parents had a 1966 and a 1970 Toronado. Very nice to drive in snow. Lots of power and quiet. Miss the revolving drum speedometer. When it was at 0 mph you could just see the back of the drum ended at 130 mph. I also later owned a 1986 Toronado with the 5.7L Diesel engine and also was front wheel driven. Got 30 mpg and the fuel sold for about $0.85 per gallon in 1991. Loved that car! Had 4 very bright sealed beam headlights. Went anywhere in snow. Could push other cars with front bumper if stuck in snow. Came with a Bose Quadra sonic sound system. Those were the days!
@StPeteG8r
@StPeteG8r 4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful automobile !
@donaldhollums3278
@donaldhollums3278 4 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the days when General Motors had substance! The early model Toronados will always look good.
@rageinthekage4247
@rageinthekage4247 4 жыл бұрын
There are very few automobiles as beautiful as these. The Cord was also so distinctively beautiful.
@UsefulEntertainment
@UsefulEntertainment 4 жыл бұрын
The dream child of John Beltz chief engineer of Olds at the time, the father of the 442 RIP
@paulhoskins7852
@paulhoskins7852 4 жыл бұрын
Also Hurst was very involved with these!
@manoman0
@manoman0 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard of John Beltz but I immediately love him.
@tapper701
@tapper701 3 жыл бұрын
442 = 4 barrel carb, 4 speed trans & dual exhaust ...
@teresah.6696
@teresah.6696 4 жыл бұрын
The look of the Toronado and the 1969 Buick Riviera are my favorites.
@edgarribeirodossantos9019
@edgarribeirodossantos9019 3 жыл бұрын
WOW so are mine two favorite s ever...u have good taste ! 👏👏👐👐
@hawkrider88
@hawkrider88 4 жыл бұрын
Also...the Unser brothers were very involved in running the Toronado at Pikes Peak in the 60s. However it was Nick Sanborn who actually won his class with it in 1967. The front wheel drive helped a lot but the weight of the car impacted it's performance, especially as they got closer to the top of the climb and the thinner air.
@chekaschmeka4283
@chekaschmeka4283 3 жыл бұрын
In 1989, the Trofeo toronado had a touch screen control system(that needed refinement) inflatable 6 pocket bucket seats and many other innovationd. 1995 Aurora was also a piece of art.
@kkelleybass
@kkelleybass 3 жыл бұрын
I loved these. My flat mate in college in the mid 80s, had one of these his Grandma had given him. It had this cool cylindrical speedometer. Looked great, and was fun to drive. I wonder why these arent spoken of more often by those who love Muscle Car era cars.
@jtem9313
@jtem9313 4 жыл бұрын
I've met people who call it ugly! Personally, I think it's a great looking car.
@ShariaLawAllDay
@ShariaLawAllDay 4 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful, beautiful car. Such a shame that it got discontinued so early. I was hoping they would mention the reason as to why it got discontinued. An all time classic indeed.
@d.peters6075
@d.peters6075 4 жыл бұрын
This set up and engine was so good, they used it in their GMC Class A motor home of the 70s.
@dennisjump8655
@dennisjump8655 4 жыл бұрын
I had a 69 with a 455 V8 and 4 bbl carb. It was a beast. I was only 18. It was the best car I've ever owned. So many good memories in that car. I went from owning a Fiat 850 Spider to this monster !
@Frank-rm9yg
@Frank-rm9yg 4 жыл бұрын
I'VE REBUILT OVER 10,000 IN MY LIFETIME AND HAVE SEEN QUITE A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TYPES AND I'VE NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUILD ONE OF THESE. IN OTHER WORDS THIS WAS A VERY STRONG TRANSMISSION.
@richardkafka5625
@richardkafka5625 4 жыл бұрын
I miss these days so much! Car's looked so good and different from brand to brand. After the 60's and 70's everything began to look the same.
@stratovani
@stratovani 4 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful car, and so ahead of its time. As a boy I remember seeing them on the road and I was impressed by them.
@thefettfan3994
@thefettfan3994 4 жыл бұрын
A brand and a model that will never be forgotten because of its innovating ideas and design way ahead of its time of existence!
@BobL56
@BobL56 4 жыл бұрын
Great job! IMO that first year ‘66 is the most distinctive of all the ones that followed. The front end being one of my favorite of any car produced since! A nod to the ‘67 Eldo with the hidden headlights as runner up. They just don’t make ‘em like that anymore!
@santatigerclaus
@santatigerclaus 4 жыл бұрын
I was 11 in about '65 when dad came home all excited- hed been in in Olds engineering about 5 years before the Toro was started , and said "We're building a supercar!!!!"- was good times for him going to work- we never were able to get one out of Olds surplus tho, they were in high demand (we got some sweet cars out of surplus, one was a '68 Ramrod, one was a 61 Cutlass with the aluminum V6)-and the 64 2 door midnight blue Cutlass 350 2 on the floor -unbelievable quality back then -
@alanparsonsfan
@alanparsonsfan 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had a 66 and then a 68. One in light blue, one in dark blue. Always liked them. Had no idea those beasts were 4,600 pounds!
@jimh.5286
@jimh.5286 4 жыл бұрын
In 1966, at age 16, I went with my dad for a test drive of a new Toronado. It was bronze with a black interior. He bought it. It was the car that I drove in 1966 for the test drive to get my first driver's license. A great car. The only problem was that the front was so heavy, it kept blowing out the inadequate bias ply tires. I loved the way it looked, but thought that Oldsmobile ruined the Toronado's appearance with the changes they made in 1968.
@andiarrohnds5163
@andiarrohnds5163 4 жыл бұрын
they certainly did ruin it. the first ones are amazing
@machtschnell7452
@machtschnell7452 4 жыл бұрын
@@andiarrohnds5163 Appearance wise, the 66 and 67 were the best models.
@robertwoodpa6463
@robertwoodpa6463 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Such a pretty introductory model. I was 16 when it came out and it looked so futuristic to me at the time. The looks went down from there. I still do not understand why the 1966 models are not highly collectible.
@erikbaarstad5308
@erikbaarstad5308 4 жыл бұрын
In 1966 I was a gleem I'm my dad's eye.
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertwoodpa6463 -- They are not collectible? I'd sooner buy one of them (restored to near-new condition, of course) than any new model available today.
@hillarylevenworth8824
@hillarylevenworth8824 4 жыл бұрын
Had 1969 W-34. That car was smooth and powerful!
@starxlr7863
@starxlr7863 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video with some great facts. This is still my father's top favorite car that he ever owned. He had a black 1967 Toronado Deluxe black on black and still wishes he never sold it! This was and still is a very important car in automotive history that never seems to get the attention it deserves for some odd reason. And it is great how GM and Cadillac continued the same tradition in there modern day FWD V8 cars. My grandfather that was an foreign auto mechanic by trade, loved the new FWD Oldsmobile's and Cadillac's much more than any RWD car during that era. He said no other car with that much power handled any better, with the exception of the Chrysler products of the 50s/60s like his '57 Imperial. The auto makers made some great innovative automobiles back in the day and were far better than they are now!
@user-ss2ly1ir6j
@user-ss2ly1ir6j 4 жыл бұрын
Those things were WAY cooler than a Cadillac back in those years. Everybody just stopped and stared...
@starxlr7863
@starxlr7863 4 жыл бұрын
You have to include the FWD Eldorado over any of the other Cadillac's. Both the Toronado and the Eldorado were the two coolest and hottest cars around in those days. My father had a '67 Toronado for a number of years before selling it. The production numbers prove just how successful the new Toronado and the new FWD Eldorado truly were.
@user-ss2ly1ir6j
@user-ss2ly1ir6j 4 жыл бұрын
@@starxlr7863 The Caddy was ok but as a young kid back then what really made me stop and stare was the Toronado. My ultimate dream car !!
@starxlr7863
@starxlr7863 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ss2ly1ir6j Ok, I can understand.
@Porsche996driver
@Porsche996driver 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had one ‘68 in the olive metallic! Everyone asked questions....
@bactanite
@bactanite 4 жыл бұрын
My dad had the same one with the same color. After trading it in he bought a '70 model in light blue.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 4 жыл бұрын
Like who puked pea soup all over your car?
@robertbeirne9813
@robertbeirne9813 4 жыл бұрын
Dave auf dem BMW my parents had gas range and refrigerator in that color in 68😃
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamjordan5554 Odd browns, greens and gold colors proliferated that era.
@williamjordan5554
@williamjordan5554 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarinCipollina I know. I was there, and they still creeped me out.
@dawge30
@dawge30 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the Cord 810/812 comparisons. I always felt the Toronado (especially the 1966) was an homage, and a proper one at that; to the classic Cords. As much as I love the conventional muscle cars, the Toronado is one of my favorite cars of all time; and possibly the best car of the late '60s. Thanks for wonderful content.
@michaeltipton5500
@michaeltipton5500 4 жыл бұрын
I think all Oldsmobile's of that era were wonderful cars. Always smooth and quite with a surprising amount of power. It's a shame Oldsmobile faded away into history.
@trackman174
@trackman174 4 жыл бұрын
I am so grateful that I had the chance to drive some of these great American cars in their heyday.
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 4 жыл бұрын
Im happy someone is covering these. They are such an underrated muscle car. The transmission is bulletproof and pretty much lossless to the wheels
@JeffFrmJoisey
@JeffFrmJoisey 4 жыл бұрын
My friend's Mom had a 68 Toronado. The interior was huge!! The leg room was amazing!! Dave named the car "The Belchfire 88" when he began occasionally driving it in 1973!! Great car!!!
@barnabyjones6995
@barnabyjones6995 4 жыл бұрын
When you took your date to the drive-in, you did not need the back seat, just the privacy of the flat front floor.
@badapple65
@badapple65 4 жыл бұрын
I realize now just how cool my Dad was. He owned so many of these cutting edge cars when I was a kid-born 1965. Cars featured on this channel. He always seemed to trade cars every year or 1-1/2 years. Even into my teens & older teen years he owned great cars. The last year of the huge Lincoln Town car 1979 in powder puff blue was the car he kept the longest. It was the car I drove with learner’s permit and my driving test. Even had a 944 Porsche after I had my license. I took it much too often when he did not know. Lucky I never crashed it. T-Birds, LTD’s, Mercury Cougar, it helped that he bought my Mother new cars too probably every other year which helped to expose me to more nice cars. Dad had some money. Owned a tool & die factory with some automotive contracts. Me, I’ve never owned anything really cool other than a 66 Plymouth Barracuda
@danclark1348
@danclark1348 4 жыл бұрын
When it first came out I was in awe. Still looks great.
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 4 жыл бұрын
Those early Toronado's are just plain sexy.
@marcomoreno8188
@marcomoreno8188 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they are '60s version better that the '70s eldorado rip off look.👻
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcomoreno8188 To my eyes the '66 is the most attractive followed by the '67.
@MrMenefrego1
@MrMenefrego1 4 жыл бұрын
*In 1966 my father bought a new Lincoln Mark III, which in its very first year, even outsold the elegant and massively popular personal luxury car, the Cadillac of of Cadillac's, the Cadillac Eldorado. When Pop had first seen the new Old's Toronado, in one of their TV ads, he said that he would buy one the very next model year, that is when Oldsmobile, "Got all the kinks out of it." The next model year he did indeed buy a brand spanking new kind of brownish-silverish earth tone 1967 Old's Toronado, with it's too cool rolling speedometer no less. In addition to it's custom ordered L-34 455-CI with it's vicious 400-HP, it had a beautiful leather interior covering it's sporty bucket seats to match the exterior color, and was she ever POWERFUL! Pop use to "kick her in the a**" on Illinois highway 20, blazing right past the Illinois State Police Dept. while cruising at a comfortable 100-115 MPH, she had even more, but he didn't push her, too much anyway. Thankfully, he never got even one ticket. The backseat was perfect for a kid or two to lay down and be lulled to sleep by the low rumble of her powerful Old's Rocket Engine, with Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass playing on her double-mono radio lol. Even mom loved that car and she borrowed it whenever Pop wasn't there to stop her from driving his "Baby". He begrudgingly sold it to me in 1980 when I was 20, buying a barely used, like-new '72 Toronado (it had just over 18,000 miles in 1980) from his best friend, for himself. And, although I took good care of her, by making sure she was serviced more than regularly, keeping her carefully detailed and waxed with with the finest carnauba wax, yes, even the modest, for that era, chrome bumpers, I did push it to its limits. Attaining 100-plus MPH was no problem for the now old Old's, she and her cool speedometer rolled effortlessly over the highway, her elderly bias-ply Michelin tires thumping over expansion joints, and was very comfortable on city roads as well. I never should have sold that awesome ole Oldsmobile.*
@DRLOVEWELL
@DRLOVEWELL 4 жыл бұрын
In 1966 I was 10. My friend’s neighbour had one. We all marvelled. Was shocked by an artist’s rendering of the soon to be introduced Pontiac Firebird, but this I could see live. Knew all the cars back then, living next to a major highway.
@Lockemeister
@Lockemeister 4 жыл бұрын
My friend's father had a 1966 Toronado in white. Sharp looking distinctive car. I liked the roller speedometer. Yes, i was told his father did have it up to 130 MPH. The car was FAST! On the other hand I knew a great mechanic in Connecticut. He worked on all makes and models at his shop . He even worked on 18 wheelers. Two cars he would not work on, The Corvair and you guessed it, the Toronado. I think he didn't want to spend the time on them. You know, he had to make money.
@greyscout50
@greyscout50 4 жыл бұрын
Had one back in "the day"!!! ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT!!!
@robertbeirne9813
@robertbeirne9813 4 жыл бұрын
510 ft lbs and no torque steer. Why can’t modern car companies figure this out with less than half that amount of torque?
@robertbeirne9813
@robertbeirne9813 4 жыл бұрын
G Duss in the video, torque rating was mentioned as, 475-510, over the models yrs 66-70. They stated early in the video, olds achieved these numbers while having “no torque steer affect”. I think they were attributing this to the chain drive to TH425 trans setup. I’ve driven many a modern fwd, and read reviews of others and torque steer is still factor. I hope this explains, what I was trying to get at, in my comment. Cheers.
@robertbeirne9813
@robertbeirne9813 4 жыл бұрын
G Duss gave you bad info on the Caddies, CTS and ATS both rear wheel drive. Don’t know what I was thinking.
@starxlr7863
@starxlr7863 4 жыл бұрын
Cadillac kept the tradition going for many years after wards. The FWD Cadillac's in later years don't have a problem with torque steer at all.
@Acroposthion
@Acroposthion 4 жыл бұрын
Equal length halfshafts generally help. (most FWD vehicles use UNequal length shafts, creating inherent torque imbalance)
@danielweeden4957
@danielweeden4957 4 жыл бұрын
With 4 ply tires in 66? 78 series width? Still no torque steer! A friend bought the first model year. He and his wife owned a gift shop and greenhouse. I worked after school for him. Quite a few adventures collecting sphaugnum moss in the woods to use as filler in the wire Christmas wreaths. It snowed and without snow tires the Toronado could handle snow that other cars couldn't with snow tires on. The Toronado was quick for it's day.
@jwelchon2416
@jwelchon2416 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah...The 66 Toronado was jaw dropping when it came out. We bought one used and it was a fantastic car!!
@kpprof
@kpprof 4 жыл бұрын
i own the 69 it really makes me smile i had a 65 442 w a bench seat and that 425 it was a great car as well
@ss442es
@ss442es 4 жыл бұрын
Early 1970's I stopped at an intersection on Hilltop Drive in Redding California. I had a 68 GTO. Across from me in the opposite direction sat an Olds Toronado CHP . Suddenly the lights came on and smoke from the now boiling front wheels rolled out of the wells as this thing launched. It was an awesome sight and the first time I had recognized the Toronado as a hot car in CHP colors.
@Roddy_Zeh
@Roddy_Zeh 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I didn't know any police force had used these! Very nice! 😲
@tsav6952
@tsav6952 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most stylish cars of all time.
@chrismontreuil2206
@chrismontreuil2206 4 жыл бұрын
You have got to be kidding. Ever seen a Dodge Charger?
@shelbukowski1443
@shelbukowski1443 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrismontreuil2206 One of the most...
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrismontreuil2206 The Charger is a brick by comparison. I like cars with oodles of curves and chrome, not boxes within boxes.
@edgeofeternity101
@edgeofeternity101 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad had a 70 and he let me take it on a road trip when I was 17 I think. I was very impressed with the power and handling of that car. it was a very memorable driving experience. I remember thinking the car was much better than the glitzy dash jewelry.
@ornumjc
@ornumjc 4 жыл бұрын
Such a cool car with features like no other cars. I especially liked the rolling speedometer.
@quad5186
@quad5186 4 жыл бұрын
ornumjc Was looking for someone to comment on that ! So cool !
@carleavesceo709
@carleavesceo709 4 жыл бұрын
My friend owned a '79 Toronado. It rode and drove like a dream !
@donbishow5497
@donbishow5497 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison with the Cord, headlights and fender archers.
@chocolatte6157
@chocolatte6157 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a teenager, I hired myself out to local farmers (in PA) as a laborer in the summer primarily baling hay. One of the farmers was a gentleman farmer whose primary job was as a school teacher. He had a green Toronado. He used to pick me up and drop me off in that car. And I remember being impressed with the acceleration because it seemed like a big, heavy, quiet luxury car. It would get up and go though. It had a really long hood and was very comfortable. I liked the car.
@kevinsmith7516
@kevinsmith7516 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video!!. My parents had a 66' Tornado, white, with white bucket seats and black carpet. We were just kids at the time, and we called it our rocket ship!!. Took alot of vacations in that car, never broke down.
@jamesnadell1998
@jamesnadell1998 2 жыл бұрын
Great story! The simple pleasures are always the best bc our problems are typically complicated. RIV, LD, Toronado, and the highest end Grand Prix really stand out for me in this era and within this genre.
@carlhaluss
@carlhaluss 3 жыл бұрын
A remarkable car! I remember in 1966 when it first came out, I thought I had never seen a more beautiful automobile. And I still think that the original had the cleanest lines, particularly the front grill and back.
@joeparson9967
@joeparson9967 2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, the 66’ is by far the best looking year for the Toranado.
@neozeed1984
@neozeed1984 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I hate fwd, the toronado and riv were such innovative and futuristic cars, they amaze me whenever I run into one.
@machtschnell7452
@machtschnell7452 4 жыл бұрын
Original Riviera was RWD. And beautiful.
@UberLummox
@UberLummox 4 жыл бұрын
@@machtschnell7452 Right. The Eldo was FWD not the mighty Riv.
@johnnyhawkins43
@johnnyhawkins43 4 жыл бұрын
I owned a 1972 Cadillac Eldordo back in the 1980s and it was set up the same way, except it had a 500 Cubic inch monster of an engine in it,oh and for the metric crowd it was 8.3 Liters and that's big!!!!!!!
@barnabyjones6995
@barnabyjones6995 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyhawkins43 8.2 liters
@MarinCipollina
@MarinCipollina 4 жыл бұрын
@@UberLummox The Riv joined its Toronado and Eldorado stablemates with front wheel drive with the 1979 downsizing.. They were known internally at GM as E bodies.
@railtrolley
@railtrolley 4 жыл бұрын
One of those designs that was 'just right'. Elegant, ageless and way ahead of its time.
@JDSleeper
@JDSleeper 4 жыл бұрын
You can launch F-4 Phantoms off that hood.
@revolutionday1
@revolutionday1 4 жыл бұрын
>X-D
@modspell
@modspell 4 жыл бұрын
Or a Harrier off the trunk!
@patch5859
@patch5859 4 жыл бұрын
Aircraft carrier!!! I had a 68! Longer than the corvette hood!
@5610winston
@5610winston 4 жыл бұрын
Kaiser-Frazer-Graham-Paige experimented with FWD when developing the Kaiser for 1947, but the complexity and cost of development were beyond even Henry J's resources. The production Kaiser automobile was plug-ordinary in engineering, but along with the redesigned Studebakers, they were among the most advanced style designs of the period.
@HoosierDaddy_
@HoosierDaddy_ 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe my favorite full size GM car of the era. I love both the Olds and Caddy versions. Styling is dead on. What a car .
@artheis1342
@artheis1342 4 жыл бұрын
My parents owned a 1966 Toronado. It was a beautiful car and as A teenager I was amazed by it. My parents though had another impression. It got 8 miles per gallon, and tore up the front bias ply or glass wrapped tires every 5K miles-. It needed the European Michelin radial tires unavailable at that time in that size huge tire..
@armadillotoe
@armadillotoe 3 жыл бұрын
I was 14 when this came out. I was very impressed and wanted one badly someday. I never got one, but I still love it.
@kevinwade954
@kevinwade954 4 жыл бұрын
Had a 1966 and 1968.Great stuff !! Had 4 in our driveway at one time.
@garymcaleer6112
@garymcaleer6112 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, OCM. One of my fondest childhood memories was building that AMT model. I wish I kept all those models from the 60's. Creative juices were flowing in those days.
@msbae
@msbae 4 жыл бұрын
Technically innovative cars like this are why I so sincerely miss Oldsmobile... in addition to the really nice baby blue 1976 Oldsmobile Delta 88 that my grandmother had when I was a kid...
@acemobile9806
@acemobile9806 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather always had Olds also. When I was about 5 or so I loved helping him take the fender skirts off to scrub the white walls & wash the back wheels. It's sad how homogenized & ordinary they became tho thanks to GM corporate BS.
@msbae
@msbae 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just GM that made that mistake. The whole industry went that way. :(
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 4 жыл бұрын
Those 88's and 98's were huge compared to today! I'd just marvel at their design. My favorite was the Electra 225 by Buick, 2 door.
@troyellis7605
@troyellis7605 4 жыл бұрын
WOW, what an overlooked GEM of an automobile !
@gsxerwhite
@gsxerwhite 4 жыл бұрын
I saw one of these for the first time in the early 80’s when I was kid. It boggled my mind. My Dad was a car guy so he loved telling me about cars that fascinated me. Good video 👍🏻
@randygreen8916
@randygreen8916 4 жыл бұрын
My parents bought a 1967 Toronado new when I was 11 years old , I remember thinking about how cool of a car it was.
@wadet73
@wadet73 4 жыл бұрын
I was raised in Oldsmobiles. My parents drove a 1970 Cutlass Supreme when I was born. Loved hearing the Olds specific timing sound when those cars would go by.
@133dave133
@133dave133 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that this drivetrain wasn't more popular. I figured that Ford would want to get on board. Getting the tunnel out of the interior seems like a huge selling point for these luxury cars.
@joelabbe6185
@joelabbe6185 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandpa bought a '69 about 1980, and was the first car to really get me interested in automotive at age 9. What a gorgeous machine! I still have photos of it; sadly after he t-boned a full sized Ford van. 😢 Interesting photos though for anyone interested. Would post them here if possible. Thanks for the fine review! Love your channel!
@303nitzubishi4
@303nitzubishi4 4 жыл бұрын
The basic design survived almost 20 years. I believe the later models even had an overdrive transmission. You forgot to mention that the engine/transaxle design was so strong and durable that GMC truck adapted air suspension and based their futuristic motorhome chassis on it.
@jeffyork5766
@jeffyork5766 4 жыл бұрын
The 1973- 80 (I think) was a Badass Motor home!!!
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 4 жыл бұрын
Think that's in another of his vids about the motorhome.
@barnabyjones6995
@barnabyjones6995 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a 67 Toronado front end on a motorhome a few years ago, that was an actual model, I thought the guy custom made it or something.
@johnsaxton5281
@johnsaxton5281 3 жыл бұрын
I so remember our family having one of these around 1968 when I was 4-Gorgeous Car!
@stevenschwartz1209
@stevenschwartz1209 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the look of the 1966-1967 Toranado as it is extremely masculine, future-oriented, sporty, and luxurious from the outside and yet still manages to produce serious performance and exciting drivability simultaneously. I wonder just how reliable they turned out to be?
@peter455sd
@peter455sd 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to "modern" cars they were indestructible
@brettthorndike1079
@brettthorndike1079 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot how beautiful of a car the Toronado was
@xrmerkur
@xrmerkur 4 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Firestone designed an 8.85" x 15" tire especially for the Toronado called the TFD (Toronado-Front-Drive) tire. It had a stiffer sidewall than normal, and the tread and stylishly thin white pin-stripe were also unique - wiki
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You! I worked in a Firestone dealer 1981-84, had no idea they went to such great lengths for Olds. Then they were all about pushing their 721 (7 steel cords, wrapped by 2, and 1) radials.
@xrmerkur
@xrmerkur 4 жыл бұрын
Happy Days , through the years Tire brands specialized in a few technologies limited to one or only a few vehicles, including early run flat options on cars like Bentley.
@danielrodriguez248
@danielrodriguez248 4 жыл бұрын
Kool info👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@xrmerkur
@xrmerkur 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Rodriguez , I enjoy tidbits and odd features on cars. I love unusual stuff so much that make videos of my rare Lincoln Mark VI.
@410520169
@410520169 Жыл бұрын
I had a 70 with a rolling speedometer and a 72 both light green. I loved those cars. In a big snowstorm, I was leading the snow plow.
@fericyde
@fericyde 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Love what you're doing here. No one is covering car history like you are. I really wish some cable company or Netflix would pick up your work. These are amazing
@ms.sonshine8878
@ms.sonshine8878 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Tornados. Such unique styling. My dad was a big Ford and Oldsmobile fan.
@billkipper3264
@billkipper3264 4 жыл бұрын
When I was in high school a friend of mine, who was in a wheel chair, had a Toronado that was fitted with hand controls. He drove that thing like he was Mario Andretti. It was a fast and beautiful car.
@paulfromperth5713
@paulfromperth5713 4 жыл бұрын
I’d never seen this model before. Absolutely beautiful. 👍👌
@paulasturi4199
@paulasturi4199 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! What an amazing vehicle...GM engineering at its finest! This car and the early 60s Buick Rivera are among my favorite classic car rides! You can keep the Camaros and Firebirds.
@thefreebird49
@thefreebird49 4 жыл бұрын
I like the 66 body style
@knuttsackjones3094
@knuttsackjones3094 2 жыл бұрын
My buddy had one in the early 90s, the speedo was really cool. Basically a 55gal drum on its side that spun to show you whatever speed you were at. There’s a brief picture of it in this video
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 4 жыл бұрын
There were some nice cars made in those days.
@wurly164
@wurly164 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a part of GM and was friends with Olds himself. He wrote a small book called pioneer days and autographed it to my grandfather. My grandfather also was the VP of the Alfred P Sloan foundation
@zappbrannigan8952
@zappbrannigan8952 4 жыл бұрын
wurly164 and?
@wurly164
@wurly164 4 жыл бұрын
@@zappbrannigan8952 read it again it's self explanatory
@adamtrombino106
@adamtrombino106 4 жыл бұрын
I was at Desert Valley Auto junkyard a couple yrs ago. They had 13 complete cars, 66-70. I was in awe. Prices were pretty high, but the owner was willing to make package/parts cars deals at that time. 3 were running/driving cars. If you want 1, or need parts for yours, bring your wallet, and start there!
@albertbrooks8652
@albertbrooks8652 4 жыл бұрын
As always, I have thoroughly enjoyed your video. You always have exceptional content and explain the car subject in a way that no one else does. Thank You!
@hillarylevenworth8824
@hillarylevenworth8824 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a new W-34 Toronado in late summer 1969, used it on our honeymoon in 1977. Toured the entire USA in 3 weeks. The perfect car for that trip.
@ChristopherCerta
@ChristopherCerta 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Thanks for posting!
@LeftLaneShane
@LeftLaneShane 4 жыл бұрын
Great styling, smooth ride and boy these beauties moved out with speed in a quick fast hurry when you hit that skinny pedal on the right!!! A friend had some of these classics,and man i was so stoked as a kid in the 70s to cruise and be seen up in the front seat while out tooling around! My aunt always had a new Eldorado every year since they were first introduced too,she really knew stylish quality for sure!!! Thanks again!!!
@jeffyork5766
@jeffyork5766 4 жыл бұрын
I must thank you as well. Your videos are very informative and entertaining. I was about 5 or 6 when the Toronado came out. I remember reading (or at least looking at the pictures) a car magazine while my Dad was driving his 1964 Lincoln Continental and seeing a picture of it. Even at six years old I thought it was a nice looking car. Alas, Pops did not buy one.
@ferrelx
@ferrelx 4 жыл бұрын
i remember as a kid in the late sixties our neighbor had a W34 version..in the summer he would smoke the front tires and in the winter he was always the first out of the driveway after it snowed..sigh..i miss those days :/
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