Most powerful amplifier for HT? D-sonic M3a Review, AVR vs separates, clipping, damping factor

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King's Cinema

King's Cinema

3 жыл бұрын

Hi everybody! I spent couple of days to prepare for you a comprehensive review of the most powerful home theater D-class amp: D-sonic M3a-6100-7. In this video i also explain what is clipping and why it kills speakers, what is damping factor, why i choose this amplifier and how it pairs with Yamaha A3080 AVR and JTR Noesis 215RT speakers. Hope you will enjoy this video :).
My Setup:
Front stage: 3xJTR Noesis 215 RT
Surrounds: JBL E60 Northridge, Quad 12L (Soon JTR 110HT/HT-SL)
Atmos: JBL E10, Boston Voyager 50 (Soon JTR 100HT-SL)
Subwoofer: SVS PB-16 Ultra (soon JTR Captivator 6000ULF)
Processor/Atmos Amp: Yamaha Aventage A3080
Eer-level Amplifier: D-sonic M3a-6100-7
Source: Pioneer UDP-LX 500
Projector: Benq W2700 (Soon plan to upgrade to Optoma UHZ65LV for more light output for 3d movies)
Screen: XYscreen Sound Max 4k 165" Acoustically Transparent
Interconnects: Audioquest Red River
Power source: Dedicated line with generic Clef Anti-surge

Пікірлер: 117
@amglife7386
@amglife7386 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love your enthusiasm!! I’ve been looking at the amp you got for quite some time now. You have certainly made up my mind now about getting it. Thanks man. Keep making videos
@amglife7386
@amglife7386 3 жыл бұрын
I have JTR 210rt center left and right
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kris! i think you will be happy - it works well with JTRs - congratulations on good speaker choice
@masers5
@masers5 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Your experience mirrors mine when I replaced an Emotiva 7 channel amp (120w/ch) with a D-Sonic M3a-2800-7. I subsequently added a M3a-2400-6 for a total of 13 channels at 400w 8 ohms and 800w 4 ohms.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Yes - external amp gives a lot. I recently switched back my speakers to my AVR and the difference was night/day - mostly in dynamic range.
@askmatt7283
@askmatt7283 2 жыл бұрын
Your video inspired me to purchase a D-Sonic amplifier. I purchased the M3a-2800-7 for my system. The color of tone is completely transparent and the power it adds is stunning. My speakers sound like they are truly alive for the 1st time since I have owned them. My ears give out way before I even think of approaching its limit. Its all about the headroom. Great video! Keep up the good work. Bravo my D-Sonic friend!
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
That's great news Matt! I forgot even that i have this amplifier - its behind the screen, so i don't see it, turn ons/off automatically and works without a problem :). But its working everyday in my cinema! So this is how the amplifier should work!
@MonkeyDude1999
@MonkeyDude1999 2 жыл бұрын
Every hometheater enthusiast should subscribe to your channel! You are so nice to share all of this information with us and take us on your journey with you. Thank you very much and I hope one day I’ll get to experience these great beasts for myself 🙏🏼❤️
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I keep my fingers crossed for you and hope you make your dream home theatre come true! Have an amazing day!
@DUDETHEATER
@DUDETHEATER 3 жыл бұрын
Men keep them coming buddy , very good infor on this amp , love it , I will put this amp on my list
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will make more for sure!
@EverythingHomeTheater
@EverythingHomeTheater 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is gonna go far! Super likeable, very informative and lots of positive energy. New sub from me.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!! New review just published!
@danielseguin913
@danielseguin913 2 жыл бұрын
Great content. Very instructive. I have watch tons of videos like this but here I learned new things. Thanks so much! Love your enthusiam! Thanks for sharing.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Daniel! Have an amazing day!
@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7
@iyona14granturismogt6gtspo7 Жыл бұрын
This man's enthusiasm is contagious.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 Жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@OrganNLou
@OrganNLou 2 жыл бұрын
LOVED YOUR REVIEW!!! I NEVER would have thought of buying a class D amplifier in my life! I recently bought a Class D Jeff Rowland amplifier, and am VERY IMPRESSED!!!! Its small, quiet, cool, and MUSICAL! I now can see why class D amplifiers are the future!
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think soon class D will take over all the market! Have an amazing day!
@randyreinninger6826
@randyreinninger6826 3 жыл бұрын
Great choice for your amplifier . You really do a awesome job explaining everything and you make it so exciting. I have watched many av videos and you are number one and I'm not exaurating. Love your videos. When more people start discovering your channel you going to climb to the top. Thank you and I'm glad I found your channel. Keep On Keeping On 💪😎
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Randy for kind words - such comments motivate me to make more videos! For sure i will continue it as its my passion!
@jaxxonernesto773
@jaxxonernesto773 2 жыл бұрын
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@phoenixmekhi6001
@phoenixmekhi6001 2 жыл бұрын
@Jaxxon Ernesto Instablaster =)
@jaxxonernesto773
@jaxxonernesto773 2 жыл бұрын
@Phoenix Mekhi Thanks so much for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im in the hacking process atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@jaxxonernesto773
@jaxxonernesto773 2 жыл бұрын
@Phoenix Mekhi it did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy! Thanks so much, you saved my account !
@piotrkrol8013
@piotrkrol8013 3 жыл бұрын
Great next movie from You ! its a lot of valuable informations ! waiting for next !! :)
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thank my brother!!! Have an amazing day!!!
@sickjohnson
@sickjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
So happy to see another video from you so soon! Your past history as a DJ was super cool to hear as well, congrats on all your success. I also DJ'd a little bit when I was younger too, just weddings and at a few bar/clubs, audio was always important to me. Really like car audio a lot too, so I totally get what you are talking about with clipping etc... I live by one of the wolds largest malls that has a mega theater in it with an IMAX that I went to so often I made friends with mangers, and they wouldn't let me pay to get in if they saw me. Do you remember that movie Triple X, staring Vin Diesel? In that movie there was a scene of an avalanche that kept blowing the speakers in the IMAX theater constantly, because of clipping from distortion. The manager had hired 3 consultants to fix the problem, with no luck...but I knew what the problem was instantly from my car audio experience of blowing speaker that were under driven. Then I explained it to the manager what he needed to do to fix the issue, and deliver the performance they wanted in that large space. Can you believe they were driving two 22" drivers and a large horn with only 400watts? Now they are driven at 4000 watts each (max power recommended is 2200 watts), and after almost 18 years they are still going strong, but they could sure use some JTR subs though! Looked at the JTR web site for the Captivator 6000ULF that your setup says are coming soon, but couldn't find them on it?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the story, good to share experience like that - funny to know we are not only the ones making mistakes :). The Captivator 6000ULF is what people call the 240V version of 4000ULF. Then you have to pay more and get the 6000W amplifier - i think the increase in power its due to higher voltage of the supply.
@sickjohnson
@sickjohnson 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 Ohhhh, I see now! I am sure you are going to love them! Have a Merry Christmas!
@Novilicious
@Novilicious 3 жыл бұрын
Love both your vids; keep it up! Publish minimum of 1 video per month!
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! I plan to publish on average 1 a week - now its a New Year and my friends and family visit us a lot so no time for it - but i will soon post new ones! Have an amazing day!
@roberthuttle
@roberthuttle 2 жыл бұрын
I completely enjoyed your review. I have just ordered the 5 channel D Sonic, I just removed the 5 channel Rotel 1585 because of the Clipping. I couldn't find anything better for the money. Impatiently waiting now.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
You will be satisfied - working well for me. :)
@roberthuttle
@roberthuttle 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 I have been satisfied for the most part, but, I'm finding my SVS Ultra Center is crying uncle. So that will likely have to be upgraded.
@C--A
@C--A 3 жыл бұрын
Nice vid dude I subbed 👌🏾 crazy powerful Amplifier & speakers! Way too powerful for my small living room with neighbours above and underneath. They would scare the living daylights out of them lol.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Probably yes :) I love good headroom, clean sound and high SPL levels
@ultrabubu1
@ultrabubu1 3 жыл бұрын
A happy man!! Enjoy your HT system and the sun👍
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you - just watched TENET yesterday! :)
@lllukiosas59
@lllukiosas59 3 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome energy and very interesting video
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Have an amazing day!
@elmerbais
@elmerbais 2 жыл бұрын
Its freakin awesome sounds, it feels like im watching live.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Yes its great! Have an amazing day!
@bamej6629
@bamej6629 3 жыл бұрын
Super odcinek
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@blueflame0003
@blueflame0003 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is a coincidence, iwas doing research on going the separate and amp and i decided to go with d sonic amp only for the price and class d...and also going avm90 anthem, but at first i was stuck between outlaw or sunfire,but altemently i decided with d sonic also i read on the avs forum...great video chow
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Yes - D-sonic works great!
@chcesztomasz1985
@chcesztomasz1985 4 ай бұрын
he is really good Dj, also my favourite motivation coach and the best friend! (he don't know me :))
@MrMaxi3140
@MrMaxi3140 3 жыл бұрын
Uhmmm let's see now what do we have here?? A positive attitude + hard work = success!!! And if you have passion, then "the sky is the limit." Outsdating review and mostly original!
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a nice comment! Couldn't agree more! Have an amazing day!
@bossalinedezz
@bossalinedezz 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome .
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Have an amazing day!
@CygnusX250
@CygnusX250 3 жыл бұрын
LOL u r funny i like it ....what a great sales video....got the big jtr coming in a month or two, QUESTION how does the amp sound at normal TV watching levels (fairly low) ...i keep coming back to this amp as it seems like the perfect match
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
:) too bad i dont get any profit from it :). The amp is good for any watching levels.
@Babine125
@Babine125 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Are you running your Noesis 110HT with 400W from that amp and do they handle it no problem and is it overkill for surround (400W)? I have an order coming from JTR of 3 X 212HTR , 2 X Captivator RS2, 4 X 110HT, 4X 110HT SL and looking for amplifiers to replace my existing but old ADCOM amps. Thank you in advance and you're doing an excellent job on your reviews, lots of details :)
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
I never pushed them to the max but yes - the surrounds are on 400W from D-sonic (the atmos, same speakers are from AVR). There is no overkill :D - just headroom. So far im ok with the system. You've chosen great system from Jeff - you will love it! Let me know when you hook it up what is your impression!
@LS-ti6jo
@LS-ti6jo 2 жыл бұрын
I know you used to DJ, but must say I am impressed with your grasp of technical design matters. Do you also have training as am engineer? I've never heard of your amp, but looks like good design. 75lbs is heavy. I know, as I am using 5 Class A amps in my system (all original Aragon amps) a 2 channel 8008 - weighs 75 lbs, two 8008X3 3 channel amps (to tri amp my front left & right speakers) - 65 lbs each, and a 41 lbs2 channel 8002. (I'm a fan of original Aragon amps) How is the power in Thailand? Have you had to do anything to get reliable, clean power at your house? I'd be much interested in any video you produce on your theater room, such as on electrical, sound treatment, etc. Cheers
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I was passionate about electronics and sound almost from kindergarten :) unfortunately didn't finish engineer degree (didn't like the university) so i only have master's in IT. But still over the years i love to learn about sound/electronic as a passion. Seems like your amps are serious - i never experienced pure class A - and i think in my setup would be problematic (we got enough heat in Thailand :). But for sure your amps sound amazing! The power here in my home is great. Actually when we moved in - we paid for new transformer only for 6 villas and also they've put new cables to it everywhere - so actually now we don't have any problems and the quality should be as good as it gets. I have dedicated breakers and lines for all my rooms so as far as i remember the theater gets 26 or 32amp breaker and i never had a chance to overload it - even though my spl meter shows 128db max in dbc when we watch movies :). For sure i will make more vids about home theater.
@junior-OG
@junior-OG 3 жыл бұрын
now i want to buy one (or 2😁)
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Today you have last day to still have lower price! Have an amazing day!
@scottpeck1149
@scottpeck1149 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I was floored when I heard you play them! Jesus I would like to own this gear, I will try to achieve this goal. I did subscribe nice shirts too👍
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott! I keep my fingers crossed for you! Hope you build also your dream Home Theater! Have an amazing day!
@Kickinitwithd18
@Kickinitwithd18 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I’m a brand new to home theater I never hooked up speakers, amps, or Receivers before. My understanding so far is that you connect the speakers directly to the amplifier either by rca to xlr or rca to rca, then connect a separate rca at the top of the back of your amplifier that connects to a (pre out) on the receiver? Please tell me if my understanding is correct I would very much appreciate it🙏🏾
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong understanding. You connect AVR ===> RCA/XLR cable ==>> Amplifier =>>> bare cable =>> speakers
@smcgilli34
@smcgilli34 Жыл бұрын
Looking to place my order for the three channel x 1500w version. Very interested in seeing what the real cost is with shipping. Curious what other amps would compete with this one?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 Жыл бұрын
You can contact the company and they should estimate the shipping cost for you. You can contact the import agency to estimate import costs (duty+tax).
@basashanker1965
@basashanker1965 2 жыл бұрын
Hi i want information about placement of equipment.as i can understand amplifiers and speakers can be placed behind acoustically screen.But where do you put the bluray player, nvidea shield ,etc that need remote to be operated.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Shanker! The AVR is behind the screen and there is no problem with remote control. Blu ray player i placed on the shelves with blu rays to have easy access.
@piyapojrattanapolsean1649
@piyapojrattanapolsean1649 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Have an amazing day!
@HOILA144
@HOILA144 3 жыл бұрын
You like a kid in a candy 🍬🍭 Store . Great Video.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
True! Love it! Have an amazing day!
@BIGBASSSAMA_4
@BIGBASSSAMA_4 Жыл бұрын
Can you let me know if you can hear the difference between a mono amp vs a multi channel amp from the same brand with the same watts rating?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 Жыл бұрын
I didnt compare such things so i cannot help you with this one.
@vincemccarty8787
@vincemccarty8787 3 жыл бұрын
Would this be stable at 4 ohms LCR channels and 8ohm for the rear 4 channels?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely. I have such setup (3 fronts are 4 ohm (which even deep down to 2.6 ohm) and 4 surrounds 8 ohm). As far as i remember these Pascal modules used in D-sonic amps are stable down to 2 ohms.
@vincemccarty8787
@vincemccarty8787 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 thank you 😊
@locmanw1583
@locmanw1583 3 жыл бұрын
What is better Pascale modules or latest Ice power modules or Purifi now?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Actually i have no idea - from my research they are comparable in case of sound quality (i never heard others, but red many reviews on the forums etc.). The difference would be that neither Ice or Purifi do not have 2200W modules (which are recommended for my speakers) :). So Pascal seems most powerful.
@locmanw1583
@locmanw1583 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 Ok thanks for sharing that 😊
@CygnusX250
@CygnusX250 3 жыл бұрын
omg the hum.....i had this issue too, and its coming from the neighbors, they get home at 5pm and then my sub starts humming, i ran around the house with an extension cord to the HT room.....trying out all outlets....they all hummed ......got a monster HT powerstrip with filtering capability, helped a tiny bit, called the sub company angry that their product was humming.....they said get an emotiva power filter/strip and the problem solved...had two 20A dedicated circuits put in and they hum when the neighbors get home as well (im in a single family house, neighbors house is 30 feet away, but they must put the noise out to the telephone pole and from there to my house sigh, nothing i can do about it)
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
I think for sure you can find some solution for it - in my cinema it was very easy - just connected projector to normal wall outlet and it disappeared. Then another type was reduced when i changed cheap RCA cables to Audioquest.
@fred215
@fred215 3 жыл бұрын
You think Santa clause can fit these speakers in his bag? 🎅 😁
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Need a big bag and strong muscles as they are enormous!
@fred215
@fred215 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 he gonna also have to make alot more trips haha
@Dave30867
@Dave30867 2 жыл бұрын
With this amp did you get some manual or not ? I have tried 4 times now to contact and email them but i cannot connect or send this company an email . I even registered with there site also .
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 2 жыл бұрын
I got some manual but there is not so much to learn about it :). Just connect the source, speakers, power and go! :) Maybe the owner is on holidays - i always got immediate answers.
@Dave30867
@Dave30867 Жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 Ok thanks for your reply cheers ☺👍
@luisgonzales2319
@luisgonzales2319 3 жыл бұрын
where is your tv located?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
No TV in this room - i have a projector with acoustaically transparent screen, which hides all the equipment and main LCR speakers
@milsv945
@milsv945 3 жыл бұрын
Need jtr lcr demo movie sounds bro...
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Check another video with the review of the speakers - has a lot of LCR demos. Have an amazing day!
@elvinechevarria8079
@elvinechevarria8079 3 жыл бұрын
class D and use 2 power cord crazy power.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing power! Have an amazing day!
@rkuehner1012
@rkuehner1012 3 жыл бұрын
How about a video showcasing your home theater with the screen down and movie viewing?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
I will make more movies soon :) Have an amazing day!
@quant2011
@quant2011 10 ай бұрын
Holy F. just measured my listening levels. Even with Nirvana from 60 to 75dB peaks. With 101db speakers why on Earth i need 800 watts per channel? or maybe im old and you listen at 99 db? When subs are active, is tube amp with 6 wpc strong enough? My room in 42 sqm. Ok maybe yours is 120 sqm and you are 7 meters from speakers?
@whatever_12
@whatever_12 3 жыл бұрын
This guy just appeared from nowhere like let me show you what equipment reviews should be like rookie .. On a serious note wish you were somewhere easy for company to snd you reviews unit would have been great change from those reviewer who took an eternity for just a simple explanation and use over complicated term to just say yes it's good to whatever company send them free stuff
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks - trying to do my best :) Have an amazing day!
@jlc1167
@jlc1167 3 жыл бұрын
Everytime his family watch movies, global earthquakes are triggered. Snow covered mountains become avalanche zones. And those working on the space station are forced to stop what there doing and retighten all fasteners and bolts
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Very close description :) Have an amazing day!
@marksolstafir
@marksolstafir 3 жыл бұрын
I will watch your videos on odysee if you decide to move there one day.
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
What is that?
@marksolstafir
@marksolstafir 3 жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 another platform like KZfaq, but better!
@jessontvarghese327
@jessontvarghese327 3 жыл бұрын
How is it compared to your Cherry 🍒 Amplifier?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jesson - i didnt have a Cherry amplifier.
@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057
@vincentcaudo-engelmann9057 10 ай бұрын
Cherry seems to have went out of business.
@quant2011
@quant2011 10 ай бұрын
Please, please please. Hook up Audio Fosi v3 which is up to 300wpc with biggest power supply. to your JTR and report to us how the sound is with your 101db sensitive mains. Is 300wpc enough? LOL. best part is , it costs $120 or so
@AB-le2bx
@AB-le2bx 3 жыл бұрын
Why not get a Good a/b amp? 200-300 watt it's plenty power to driver your speakers. Look for how mutch db per meter your speaker can produce .
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
I think i explained it in the video :) - efficiency, size, heat, power
@mititeimaricei
@mititeimaricei Жыл бұрын
Shit!
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 Жыл бұрын
What?
@mititeimaricei
@mititeimaricei Жыл бұрын
@@kingscinema3873 Re-think.
@thepiecesfit5049
@thepiecesfit5049 3 жыл бұрын
After doing some research there is nothing proprietary about this amp. It uses Pascal Xpro-3 modules that come premade, which if you look on their website pdf documentation is a word for word copy of the Pascal data sheet with D-sonic branding. These are basically modular amps plugged into an enclosure. It is a bit dishonest of the seller hiding this fact as they are not D-sonic modules but Pascal. Yes there is some care that goes into assembly, enclosure and wiring. But it can be purchased for much cheaper from alternative vendors, which are more honest about the modules and don’t try to pass themselves off as having their own proprietary components. For this reason they will not get my business.
@rkuehner1012
@rkuehner1012 3 жыл бұрын
Which vendors for example?
@kingscinema3873
@kingscinema3873 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm the seller does not hide the fact about the modules at all - you can see (as you mentioned) even he shows the manual of them. Is not only enclosure and wiring but also the input stage made custom by D-sonic. Of course you can buuy the modules by yourself and put them together but im not DIY guy and i look for good power, quality, transparency and dynamics which i got with this amplifier.
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