Motorcycle Starter Clutch Rebuild How To
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Жыл бұрынThis video shows you how to rebuild a slipping motorcycle starter clutch. This is a very common item to wear out in these old bikes simply due to age but is unfortunately something that can keep your bike from starting. This will be a very similar process on your CB750s, CB900, GL1100, GL1200, CB550, GL650 and many more!
On this CX500 you can see that one spring was actually broken with another being compressed and worn. These two things keep the bike from starting. Note that I looked for a long time for any broken spring material and did not find any. It would have been very soft metal and not able to cause damage anyway.
Parts Used
Starter Clutch Springs:
28125-516-030
Starter Clutch Rollers:
91101-516-000
Starter Clutch Plungers
28126-516-020
Previous video of this bike:
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@_Richard_F___ Жыл бұрын
I have none of these bikes but it's always a pleasure watching good craftsmanship :)
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏
@sargefreedom1578 Жыл бұрын
I haven’t worked on bikes in years. I really appreciate these videos so when I do get a bike project I’ll be a bit ahead of the game. Thanks young man!
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thank ya much!
@MartyG1957 Жыл бұрын
I love your teaching videos. I don't have a Honda, but love videos like these anyway
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
I very much appreciate that! The way I see it is that none of this is bike specific. You can use the fundamentals and problem solving on anything.
@donzimmer63 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent instructional video. I hope my CX500 won't need this soon. Engine was just out and back in...don't want to repeat that too soon.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Lucky its not too terrible once in there should you need to
@kaelanethridge8885 11 ай бұрын
Very helpful, made me confident to pull the engine on my 85 Goldwing 1200, thank you!
@BrickHouseBuilds 11 ай бұрын
Happy you found it helpful! It applies to many bikes of the era
@paulrooney8164 3 ай бұрын
Another super how to video, dude you are awesome! Glad I have 2 CXs so I can ride one and fix the other. Such high quality explanations and video work
@BrickHouseBuilds 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Einherjar_17 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work and explanation, thank you very much for sharing it!
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
🤘🤘 hopefully it comes in handy should you need it
@grahamhider3754 Жыл бұрын
Have the same with my old Kawasaki 750. All best from England ❤
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Definitely similar across many manufacturers
@richardkilb8305 Жыл бұрын
Love your work, good video. I did the same job on my V Star, when you pull the flywheel it's difficult to hold it together, top tip, tuck/slide a rag behind the flywheel to prevent bits dropping into the crankcase.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it Richard! Solid tip
@MM_in_Havasu Жыл бұрын
You don't want to have to change out the starter clutch on a Honda CBX engine, that job requires splitting the cases to do that, as all the hardware for the clutch & rollers is mounted on the jackshaft assembly. Barrel of fun to replace! If your CBX is apart, this is the time to inspect/replace those rollers & springs before crankcase assembly. Great video, keep 'em coming!
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Definitely Mark. The CBX engine is fully disassembled now and will absolutely get thr clutch components replaced
@bartoszyzwa1333 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I've never had enough guts to look in there fearing there might be some funny stories putting it back together. But I also wondered what sort of a mechanism is there that releases the flywheel so fast, precise and soft in a way. I knew there were these kegs but to think it's pretty much just a little spring pushing them to create friction is making me smile for some reason. I am no mechanic but it kind of makes me wonder how common this kind of a mechanism is among the petrol, diesel automotive world. Anyway, as always - a great video, focus on details and the format itself.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Pretty common setup actually
@upsidedowndog1256 Жыл бұрын
One way sprag rollers are common in automatic transmissions and can sometimes even be found in Continental aircraft engine starters.
@acvn-hg9gy Жыл бұрын
My old cb450s had the 3 torque screws come loose. Heard about ut multiple times on the forums too. On that one you need to remove the crankshaft to get to is, since its between the crank bearing holders. That was such a blessing lol. Cleaned it out ultrasonicly and drowned the threads in green locktite.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thats a lot more work there!
@AceCafeBikes Жыл бұрын
BAM, engine drops and you laugh - jack goes out - haha! Once again your skills amaze me BJ. Even in your backyard tiny garage, I learn something everytime I watch one of your videos. Among the many informative, demonstrative, and well explained things in this video, my favorite is hearing that nonexistent torque wrech click click click!! 🤔💪🍻❤🤙
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Oh man that jack was giving me problems. You can see when we dropped the engine originally I wasn't able to lower it all the way down. We noticed it was almost stripped but decided it had one more lift left in it....WRONG! 🤣 It lasted 5 years so no complaints. Also I HAD to include the torque wrench to make a point lol
@AceCafeBikes Жыл бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds Love it!
@whatsonsale69 Жыл бұрын
Great as always thank you!
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
🙏🙏 much appreciated
@philliptaber3105 Жыл бұрын
Great video
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@alexharris8500 11 ай бұрын
Excellent vedio gentlemen. Very well done.
@BrickHouseBuilds 11 ай бұрын
Thank ya!
@RandomStuff-zt6qf Жыл бұрын
huge thanks for this!
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Hope it proves helpful!
@robertadams4415 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info BJ definitely good to know
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert 🤘
@nicholasbishop3300 Жыл бұрын
Great video Nick Australia
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick
@andymiller5611 Жыл бұрын
Another cracking video, man! Love the way you explain what's what and how you go about sorting it! Excellent content again! Keep it up! 🍻🤘💜
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, really hoping people find this one as its such a common problem
@ujmrider 2 ай бұрын
I've done this job twice. Once on a 1983 CB1100f and once on a 1978 GL1000. The inline fours are definitely easier than a Goldwing because you don't have to pull the engine. I'm getting ready to do the job on my 1980 GL1100 now. It sounds like shaking a can full of rocks when I hit the button.
@thesighbored Жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to where is the other piece of broken spring ended up at, did you find it? Edit: Never mind I read the description and got my answer.
@Badenhawk Жыл бұрын
I need to do the proper mechanical seal fix this winter, so while I have the back cover off it seems like I might as well do this, since it seems like it's cheap and easy when everything is apart anyway.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Absolutely replace the springs and likely plungers if you are in there
@carlosa.acevedo7466 Жыл бұрын
Always love watching your vids. Always super detailed and very well explained. Btw, being from Puerto Rico, parts are usually a bit of a pain to come by. Do you have any go-to sites for oem pieces and very specific engine internal components? Much appreciated if you or anybody in the comment section could share some knowledge. Btw keep on killin' it man 🍻
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thank you! For oem sites I use partzilla, cmsnl, and ebay
@carlosa.acevedo7466 Жыл бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds sweet! Thank you, really appreciate it a ton.
@ronaldcooper7609 Жыл бұрын
The starter would spin during cold weather starts on my 07 Goldwing. I switched from synthetic oil to conventional oil and that fixed it.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
That wouldn't fix this issue.
@ronaldcooper7609 Жыл бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds Agreed, but in some cases switching to DINO oil will make the dogs grip. Worth trying if the starter spins in cold weather, but works other times.
@colinhall8998 6 ай бұрын
You are exactly right Ronald Cooper. Never use synthetic or semi synthetic, always use mineral oil. Mineral is recommended by the manufacturer.
@pipersall6761 2 ай бұрын
Well that was pretty amazing. Seems like awful little springs! Such a little part to cause such a big problem and such a major disassembly. Wow. Good job though as usual!
@BrickHouseBuilds 2 ай бұрын
Yeah it's unfortunate that such a small item can cause these issues. Many other bikes the job is much easier
@chema1546 Жыл бұрын
Ok 👌👍
@dovobis Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video and being so detailed.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Hopefully people find it helpful
@busybodyblake4050 7 ай бұрын
great video thx and what kind of puller is that different than a harmonic balancer puller..also about the thrust washer what is its job thankyou!
@BrickHouseBuilds 7 ай бұрын
That is a flywheel or starter clutch removal tool. You can see many on motion pro. A thrust washer is always to take up slack to eliminiate any play a shaft will have.
@busybodyblake4050 7 ай бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuildsI did my starter clutch and it made a strange intermitted tapping sound and I can not recall ever seeing that thrust washer until your video so I ordered one and about to do the job again thx BHB
@scottrodriguez1408 Жыл бұрын
Love the builds! Do you use some sort of software to first design the bikes before working on them or do you just start with an idea and change as you go?
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thank you much! They start with a list of goals like what the bike needs to do. Then they get built to fit. No drawings or anything
@drakeb6168 Жыл бұрын
i adore these vids. I am looking at an 82 cb650 with this issue. I recall you or another youtuber that offered assistance with the honda cb carbs for ultrasonic cleaning. Was that you?
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Glad you find the videos helpful. I dont do customer work any longer but you may have asked me for guidance there.
@upsidedowndog1256 Жыл бұрын
How do you like the HF transmission jack compared to your old scissor jack? I recently bought a Handy lift. I also bought a Handy motorcycle tire machine and electronic balancer. My local shop just retired and there are no other shops with that equipment for around 75 miles in any direction!
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Only used it this time so no real feedback yet. I don't like how fast it tries to loft though
@randyarmel6747 Жыл бұрын
I'm also re-furbishing an 81 CX500. It has a CDI ignition. I'm installing a Koso digital tach. Could you give me some guidance on where the signal should come from?
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Your gauge will come with a sheet listing the preferred tach signal options. You will have to fine tune it as well with signal selection
@HP.Customs Жыл бұрын
Just did this to my 1100 Goldwing, was an engine out but honestly wasn’t that bad.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Yeah luckily the goldwing isn't too bad to pull. These aren't bad either just sucks that it has to happen
@leestephens7281 Жыл бұрын
My VFR750 i had to do 2 times, first time was the bearings, the second time the middle part cracked, its common problem with the VFR, i accidentality ordered the wrong bike starter clutch but found the core was the same so after a bit of work and light tacking it worked out real well, its not a bad job on a bike that has it accessible on the side of the engine. Nice video, did you find the other part of the spring by chance. lol
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thats definitely frustrating. No I did not find the other part of the spring. Who knows how long ago it vanished. I don't think It could cause any damage though being such a soft bit of metal. I assume it would get caught in the pickup at the worst
@thehowto3988 2 ай бұрын
Im in the process of doing the same thing and when I hit it with the pneumatic impact, it stripped all the threads clean out
@michaelcarey125 Жыл бұрын
Hi I have replaced 2 of the units on my kz1100 and its gone again, any ideas as to whats going on? I replaced the starter clutch with new ones only a month and a half ago and gone again
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Are they new replacements or used?
@stevensapyak7971 Ай бұрын
6.24.24. ☝🏼As always…A Superb video🍿
@BrickHouseBuilds Ай бұрын
🙏
@cardoc1235 Жыл бұрын
Hello very nice and good prefsional guy.. I habe me to one cx650.. But i need some parts. Like tank and pipes of hier filter hiw i can find it please?
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Your best bet is to simply search online in your area
@cardoc1235 Жыл бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds i am in irland.. I don know how to find online do you have eny place wich i can search and find... I see in one vide you make it by your self the pipes wose lovely...
@xaviarderoche6355 8 ай бұрын
What is the bolt u used to remove the pressed on starter clutch called 3:28 and where can i find one?
@BrickHouseBuilds 8 ай бұрын
That was a "flywheel puller" bolt or stator removal tool. Various names for it. You can find them on motion pro
@jesseflorquist2530 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if it has been asked already but about how many hours does it take for this repair on the CX-500?
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Well this took us probably 4-5 but that was working quickly on an engine I've already had the cover off of so I didn't have to fight rust or stubborn hardware
@Austinfilms247 4 ай бұрын
What kind of lube/oil did you use on the springs?
@BrickHouseBuilds 4 ай бұрын
Everything was just engine oil
@Austinfilms247 4 ай бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds Thank you
@michaelmathews295 Жыл бұрын
In my Honda experience, these clutches usually fail because the ramp piece that the rollers slide up and down on cracks. I've never taken one apart that was acting up that wasn't. I cringed when you didn't pull the cover off to inspect it. Luckily it was a broken spring and not a fracture, it would have been a bitch to put it back in and it still acted up. This is also a chronic problem with KZ650-750's I've probably done close to 10 of those.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
This isn't my first rodayoh Michael. Pretty obvious what the issue is.
@philliptaber3105 Жыл бұрын
Can i ask what size is the flywheel puller i have a 82 gl500i
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
It is an M20x1.5 this article goes over it: motofaction.org/motorcycles/honda-cx-gl/how-remove-flywheel-honda-cx500-gl500-cx650-gl650/
@philliptaber3105 Жыл бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds i used a drain plug same pitch thanks so much for info
@Paul20661 Жыл бұрын
yup my VN 800 got this problem my mechanic sent me this vid
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
I like your mechanic 🤘
@Paul20661 Жыл бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds XD lol was not expecting a response AND so fast Yeah my Vulcan 800 is sitting there for like almost 2 months now Changed the battery the charging relay,new oil & filter He also cleaned the electromotor(not sure that's the right term in english) And the other day when he tries to start it kzfaq.infojRmkqMWOqzs Yesterday he says this might also be problem and shows me this vid Anyway hope he'll finally manage to get it working,been too long now Greetings from Romania P.S. As a joke he said that now he can be aauthorized service on Kawasaki Vulcan 800 XD he worked so much on that bike
@communist-hippie 8 ай бұрын
Do the rollers ever wear out, since i guess they are in contact with a spinning axle
@BrickHouseBuilds 8 ай бұрын
They can. I've seen more worn starter clutch hubs though.
@communist-hippie 8 ай бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds ok.thx for reply.
@ScrapSurvivalist 4 ай бұрын
what tool did he use to remove the starter clutch basket anyone know ?
@BrickHouseBuilds 4 ай бұрын
That was a flywheel puller. Motion pro makes a bunch of them
@ScrapSurvivalist 4 ай бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds is there any specific size for these Honda cx500?
@tiffaniflowers3707 Жыл бұрын
Why oh why didn't I find this video 300 dollars ago.
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
It be like that sometimes 😬
@jimclarke1108 Жыл бұрын
I might put a crank handle on mine
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
I found a video last night of a cx500 with a pullstart. Not sure if its real lol
@coopidon Жыл бұрын
whre is the rest of the spring? (breathing heavily)
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
Couldn't find it lol. Being a soft material I hope it just got ground up in the trans or is sitting in the oil pickup scree
@davidferguson461 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully my Kawasaki is something similar.
@jonatan13 Жыл бұрын
It was all nice and easy then the jack went out 😂 there's a almost always an inconvenience when we plan on doing easy repair
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
100% of the time in each thing I do I have something like that. I was joking with my friend Seth in the video the entire time about it and got to see it live. Even stuff like the camera not recording made me have to redo scenes 😅
@davebarrowcliffe1289 Жыл бұрын
Wondering where that half inch of broken spring went to... 🤔
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
May never know. Its softer so I hope the transmission diced it up
@wr250f9 Жыл бұрын
Could I do this without pulling the entire engine out
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
If it is a cx500/gl500/650 no. You have to remove it
@xscoops1 Жыл бұрын
Like and comment :)
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
😉
@secondchancegarage Жыл бұрын
Nope, I have a 1982 KZ550 bobber that's make a more horrific sound from the starter clutch. Lol
@BrickHouseBuilds Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 well at least you know the fix
@secondchancegarage Жыл бұрын
@@BrickHouseBuilds Luckily my starter clutch mechanism is all one piece. I don't need to rebuild it, once I get it out of the bike, and its still available. Seems to be a fairlycommon part on a lot of bikes. I just don't understand why Kawasaki would put it in the middle of the engine. Lol
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