Motorcycle Suspension Terminology Explained | The Shop Manual

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Motorcycle Suspension Terminology Explained | The Shop Manual
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The first step in understanding motorcycle suspension is getting familiar with the terminology used to discuss it. In this episode of The Shop Manual, Ari defines and explains terms like spring rate, preload, sag, damping, and more.
Suspension essentials:
Preload wrench: rvz.la/3bZ9g3R
Sag scale: rvz.la/2QjsOYd
Oil level tool: rvz.la/2ODRR81
Performance shocks: rvz.la/3s2iIZA
Fork springs and cartridge kits: rvz.la/3twqpHW
Fork oil: rvz.la/3txOGx7

Пікірлер: 437
@RevZilla
@RevZilla 3 жыл бұрын
Read more on Common Tread: rvz.la/3tA8oIQ
@49Roadmaster
@49Roadmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Great read and simply explained.
@needlesandtires
@needlesandtires 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a topic for motorcycle tune up. Thanks in advance.
@dusmantanayak844
@dusmantanayak844 2 жыл бұрын
@@needlesandtires a a
@sukantadawn4556
@sukantadawn4556 2 жыл бұрын
@@49Roadmaster ààaàaq
@636theofthebeast8
@636theofthebeast8 3 жыл бұрын
You really are among the very top motorcycle related presenters out there. I hope you keep doing these for a long time!
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's a privilege to be a resource for riders and I hope to keep at it for years to come.
@ferociousfrankie
@ferociousfrankie 3 жыл бұрын
Top? Him, Zack, and Ryan F9 are the best on the internet.
@tariqholder8818
@tariqholder8818 3 жыл бұрын
@@ferociousfrankie I know F9 but who is Zack?
@ferociousfrankie
@ferociousfrankie 3 жыл бұрын
@@tariqholder8818 Zack Courts
@willspeakman2461
@willspeakman2461 3 жыл бұрын
@@AriH211 you are the best because you actually work on motorcycles. I'm a trained mechanic but always watch your videos to learn new stuff.
@squirms
@squirms 3 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be one of those go-to videos for years.
@movingforward6099
@movingforward6099 3 жыл бұрын
Read the article, nice brake down and couple good ideas in the comments. Cheers !
@carlosvejar3938
@carlosvejar3938 11 ай бұрын
I watched it the first day, and every couple months come back to it cuz suspension is confusing for me
@OggyF
@OggyF 3 жыл бұрын
Now waiting for Zac's daily rider video review of the pogo stick. Great work as always guys. This is another video that goes into the favorites list.
@belsonkoshy7884
@belsonkoshy7884 3 жыл бұрын
And his Mickey Mouse giggle whilst bouncing around..
@mayb8876
@mayb8876 3 жыл бұрын
Wassup oggy!
@TerraPosse
@TerraPosse 3 жыл бұрын
Oggy, oggy, oggy...hoi, hoi, hoi... ...getting me coat...
@mickleblade
@mickleblade 3 жыл бұрын
What will his wife think of the pillion ride?
@benmiller6599
@benmiller6599 3 жыл бұрын
We need this
@Ryan.......
@Ryan....... 2 жыл бұрын
Your specific correction of the mistake of using "dampening" is much appreciated.
@MrSnugglekinz
@MrSnugglekinz 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll gladly repeat this video every now and then as a refresh
@athulprakash4447
@athulprakash4447 2 күн бұрын
beautiful! Been so confused about pre-load for a while until I saw this video. Nobody else mentioned that the amount of suspension travel is not the same as the amount the spring can compress.
@kennetic9196
@kennetic9196 3 жыл бұрын
I've been needing this video for years. I never understood suspension.
@stonewilliamson1912
@stonewilliamson1912 3 жыл бұрын
Me either bro.
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 жыл бұрын
Happy it helped!
@HeyAddieImTojo
@HeyAddieImTojo 3 жыл бұрын
@@AriH211 great vid. One more thing i wonder. If you increase damping, (by turning the knob to +) does that make the suspension feel softer? As in compressing further/compressing faster. I can’t wrap my head around it
@stonewilliamson1912
@stonewilliamson1912 3 жыл бұрын
@@AriH211 it definitely did,thank you!
@chrisredfield3240
@chrisredfield3240 3 жыл бұрын
@@HeyAddieImTojo depending if you mean compression damping or rebound damping? Compression is hard/soft rebound is slow/fast. Maybe + could be harder. For compression. Don't get any of these mixed up with pre load
@karwannouri8266
@karwannouri8266 3 жыл бұрын
It'd be nice with some examples of how to tune a bike with these things in mind. Great video as always, Ari.
@spookylukey97
@spookylukey97 3 жыл бұрын
One of the most confusing aspects of motorcycles for me. Thank you!
@coreymeisenheimer1724
@coreymeisenheimer1724 3 жыл бұрын
This video in conjunction with a video on measuring and adjusting motorcycle suspension, on a......*ahem* different channel with a suspiciously similar looking guy, are everything you need to get into properly setting up a bike for a specific rider. An often overlooked part of riding by the average rider. Great job, please keep these coming!
@NVK85
@NVK85 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, now after viewing a 30th video about suspension i started to understand it))))
@oso_nomada
@oso_nomada 3 жыл бұрын
My Saturday morning coffee always taste better with New Revzilla videos!
@rahulsubramanian86
@rahulsubramanian86 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Even if all this info is available on the internet, someone explaining it in such a lucid manner makes all the difference.
@AustrisPhoto
@AustrisPhoto 3 жыл бұрын
We need a 2nd video explaining what are correct adjustment settings for front and rear.
@coreymeisenheimer1724
@coreymeisenheimer1724 3 жыл бұрын
Something vaguely like this? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kNqqh9x0sM6Zlo0.html
@theresanothersteve
@theresanothersteve 3 жыл бұрын
There is no correct setting. It depends on what bike you ride, how long since the suspension was serviced, how heavy you are, how your weight is distributed on the bike, any additional weight such as luggage or pillion, even tyre pressure. Generally speaking, if you can't get the sag numbers, or are at the maximum adjustment to get the number, you need to replace the springs. You can set rebound damping by compressing the forks and letting them return to the natural position and adjusting flow so the forks extend as quickly as possible, without topping out and going back down. It is worth the fifty bucks or so to get a professional setup if you don't know how to do it yourself.
@claqyagami6914
@claqyagami6914 2 ай бұрын
@@theresanothersteve True, but that's what formulas are for; like the one he used for the sag setting. From there you can adjust till it feels just right.
@DJJohnPhilip
@DJJohnPhilip 3 жыл бұрын
I can finally understand Dave Moss Tuning videos. Thanks Ari❤️
@Baleur
@Baleur 3 жыл бұрын
This guy has veins like the Hulk. The sheer amount of blood flow would rip a brake hose in two pieces xD
@WillyO
@WillyO 3 жыл бұрын
It's just the right amount for dampening properly...
@andrewsmactips
@andrewsmactips 3 жыл бұрын
@@WillyO That's "damping" properly.
@SmittyOne883
@SmittyOne883 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 3 жыл бұрын
His face is mostly healed up after blowing half of it off with a judiciously misplaced firecracker.
@MiddletoM
@MiddletoM 3 жыл бұрын
he must work out just before shooting a video
@BrianFrichette
@BrianFrichette 3 жыл бұрын
The syringe is a good example. I usually give the example of one of those door struts, since I'm pretty sure everyone has used them. On heavy doors, they are hydraulic, just like suspension dampers. They slow the movement of the door closing, and the harder / faster you try to close the door, the more you'll feel the resistance. They're a bit different, since they are one-way compression dampers (you can open the door quickly, but can't slam it shut).
@credzcribb7439
@credzcribb7439 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the video I needed.... Sounding like a foreign language to me Thanks
@Foreverrelaxed
@Foreverrelaxed 3 жыл бұрын
From engine breaking to lingo, I appreciate each of these videos. Over 40k miles down and I have no idea what most of the bike is.
@CubanRider
@CubanRider 3 жыл бұрын
I understood it all, but I need to watch it another 10 times for it to "sink in." Thanks Ari!
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 жыл бұрын
Well then thanks for the views ;)
@rickybobby8224
@rickybobby8224 3 жыл бұрын
Ari still making me do my pushups.
@UrgetoRide
@UrgetoRide 3 жыл бұрын
That neon sign is sick, really gives the video an awesome vibe. And goes without saying, excellent video Ari, really good primer for people
@erickucinskas9271
@erickucinskas9271 3 жыл бұрын
This video should be required viewing for your MC endorsement.
@NeoMoto
@NeoMoto 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! but gotta be honest, I need to watch it maybe 2-3 more times. Awesome stuff!
@Sledneck1080
@Sledneck1080 3 жыл бұрын
Recently picked up an MT-10 and have been racking my brain as to what ten adjusts, now I know thank you!
@justinrheaume6470
@justinrheaume6470 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see your injuries healed dude! You’re the best!
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 3 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, it warms my heart to see damping correctly used. I bet you also know that counter-steering works at ALL speeds, not just above some “magic” speed. 😁
@alhung5637
@alhung5637 3 жыл бұрын
And not "dampening"!
@timmychen6
@timmychen6 2 жыл бұрын
It does work at all speed. People often think it as counter steering to where the bike goes, it actually is giving a counter force to where the bike leans. The bike goes to same direction where it leans. However, At low speed, there’s not enough momentum to hold the bike to from gravity. So people counter steer against the bike from falling to the ground, which looks like steering to where the bike goes. If people have ever practiced static balance when the bike isn’t moving forward at all for enduro riding they will know better. Counter steer is working for the bike’s leaning and that’s not exactly the same as the direction the bike goes.
@LTVoyager
@LTVoyager 2 жыл бұрын
@@timmychen6 Correct. People used to cars where the steering directly controls the rate of turn have a hard time understanding countersteering. The also have a hard time learning to fly an airplane as airplane physics is nearly identical to motorcycle physics. In an airplane, turning the control wheel simply changes the angle of bank of the airplane, it doesn’t directly initiate a turn. The turn is initiated by the bank of the airplane. So, unlike a car where you turn the wheel a certain amount and then hold it steady for the duration of the turn. If you hold the control wheel in an airplane in a fixed position, you will do an aileron roll and not a turn. You turn the control wheel to establish a certain bank angle and then you return it to center for the duration of the turn. You then turn it the opposite direction to remove the bank angle and thus stop the turn. So, even though you don’t turn the airplane wheel the opposite direction as with a motorcycle, you are using the control to establish an angle of bank just as a motorcycle establishes an angle of lean.
@bernardoortigao704
@bernardoortigao704 3 жыл бұрын
Finally found you. Got hooked on your videos on MC garage but "lost" you when you left. Nice to be back
@chrisredfield3240
@chrisredfield3240 3 жыл бұрын
Got too get my dose of ari and zack. If I have to come to revzilla now so be it.
@dmaxcustom
@dmaxcustom 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent content. What is pretty clear here though, is that Ari like to pogo around. Not disappointed.
@danmanthe9335
@danmanthe9335 3 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh when he broke that thing out
@lapara14
@lapara14 3 жыл бұрын
Yessss!! The one we’ve all been waiting for. Great vid
@uarun01
@uarun01 3 жыл бұрын
Great content as always, Ari! Hope to see more detailed videos on suspension setup.
@reibax
@reibax 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thank you so much!
@ksmart2271
@ksmart2271 3 жыл бұрын
This is excellent work man.
@BrightFuturePC
@BrightFuturePC 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation and highly informative! Thank you!
@andrewlivingston92
@andrewlivingston92 Жыл бұрын
This is the third time I’m watching this video in 3 years and 6000 miles. Always helpful. Thanks for these great videos
@SpirosGlykas
@SpirosGlykas 3 жыл бұрын
Concise and simple. Brilliant!
@aerodoc71
@aerodoc71 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video and explaination. Love the shop manual idea. Thanks Ari!
@kundanlenka768
@kundanlenka768 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff..... More power to You.... Godspeed 🔥🔥🔥
@gm2256
@gm2256 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, Ari!
@oleksandr_melanych
@oleksandr_melanych 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! You are back finally )))
@big_daddo92
@big_daddo92 3 жыл бұрын
Great show Ari! Thanks for all the wisdom it’s super helpful!!!👍
@JDnBeastlet
@JDnBeastlet 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation - I learned a lot. Thank you!
@jasonkay869
@jasonkay869 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well presented, Ari! You have just taken these already instructive videos to another level!!
@Simonpx989
@Simonpx989 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, THANKS!!!!
@pmdinaz
@pmdinaz 3 жыл бұрын
Very well executed!!! This is one to watch for sure 👍
@bradh5613
@bradh5613 3 жыл бұрын
Really good and helpful as always thanks
@billcarson1966
@billcarson1966 3 жыл бұрын
I've been riding for 30 years and when though I know this information, it's easy to forget and a refresher never hurts. Thank you!
@toluwole
@toluwole 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic and well illustrated. Thank you.
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 3 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of your garage videos. Also, the adventures with Zack. Stay safe and keep these videos coming. Thanks.
@AnfecsIan
@AnfecsIan 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy these videos are continuing since he left MC Garage. Some of the best ELI5 videos on maintaining and using motorcycles out there ...
@EitanShay
@EitanShay 3 жыл бұрын
This is gold. Thank you.
@aditya4397
@aditya4397 3 жыл бұрын
Great work buddy.. it would be great if you can make a follow-up video explaining how set sag , preload and basic of damping.. cheers for the awesome work. Regards to Zack and team Revzilla😀😀
@MidlandflyerB90
@MidlandflyerB90 3 жыл бұрын
Another top notch summary and easy to understand video on bike theory and knowledge, Ari you have nailed it, thanks
@chadr9791
@chadr9791 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful and so well explained
@gsoni79
@gsoni79 7 ай бұрын
Excellent way of the concept brilliant
@theMidnightBBQ
@theMidnightBBQ 2 жыл бұрын
What an excellent video. Thank you!
@johnhowells-vaughan5519
@johnhowells-vaughan5519 3 жыл бұрын
You are a great teacher. Thank you for helping me to understand what suspension is and how it works. Excellent video. Well done!
@axl9530
@axl9530 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Ari. Best series on yt. Keep them videos coming. Ride safe✌️
@cooparat
@cooparat 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro, I love your show.
@rautswapnil
@rautswapnil 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video.. This cleared many things for me.
@robertburwood7299
@robertburwood7299 2 жыл бұрын
Clearest explanation I have witnessed and very appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻💪
@thematurbo240
@thematurbo240 3 жыл бұрын
Ari is the man! Thanks!
@ashtoncromwell8950
@ashtoncromwell8950 3 жыл бұрын
You’re the best Ari! I hope you stick around and do this for a very long time!
@MotoSmith363
@MotoSmith363 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent work I enjoy your videos look forward to more.
@NishadAbdulkhader
@NishadAbdulkhader 3 жыл бұрын
Great Ari ..this video fully cleared the doubts on suspension terminologies
@kahchon87
@kahchon87 6 ай бұрын
I have been trying to figure out what these terminologies are… thanks for the explanation!
@RUBBERNMETAL
@RUBBERNMETAL 3 жыл бұрын
So far this video is the most effective given it’s length to explain about suspension. Keep it up and hope to see more like this.
@carolinap4150
@carolinap4150 3 жыл бұрын
another great teaching video from Ari now added to my reference Moto youtube list, Thank you!
@mikeguitarification
@mikeguitarification 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, good information and very informative.
@abdelrhmantalat9813
@abdelrhmantalat9813 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love your videos, thank you
@jbaccanalia
@jbaccanalia 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, so good, it should be a part of every rider course. You're saving lives with this one.
@dalevancleefsr
@dalevancleefsr 3 жыл бұрын
This was amazing. I've been trying to get a handle on this for decades! Thank you!
@backyardprojects8153
@backyardprojects8153 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see a new vid with you firecracker!!! I see its healed pretty good
@movingforward6099
@movingforward6099 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always !! Just a suggestion on a follow up future video if you would please. How to read your tires so you know what you suspension is doing or not doing. My connie 14 tires were a little choppy last change. Nobody seems to know . Cheers!!
@GD-od7yq
@GD-od7yq 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched several videos on motorcycle suspension, and this one does the best job of presenting the information in a way that is easy to understand. Thank you!
@jamesondominique9759
@jamesondominique9759 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for passing on the knowledge Ari. Excellent video.
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@md.saikat1669
@md.saikat1669 3 жыл бұрын
Your explanations, very easy to understand & informative.thank a lot bro,,we are grateful to you.
@21broadway
@21broadway 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Ari really taking me to class!
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome SM
@marcov4190
@marcov4190 3 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation.
@motoclarion1767
@motoclarion1767 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing demonstration 🪧
@cal5720
@cal5720 3 жыл бұрын
Can we get an episode devoted to Ari's workout routine?
@bikerbobcat
@bikerbobcat 6 ай бұрын
These basic explainers are great. And yes, I'll need to watch this a few times. Even 2 years later, thanks for all you do.
@henryglend
@henryglend 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on how to set your sag with adjustments when having a passenger or/and cargo?
@kaiweihong311
@kaiweihong311 2 жыл бұрын
So good, thx for the lesson
@tsipantziGMAIL
@tsipantziGMAIL 2 жыл бұрын
I love these episodes. Thanks :)
@byaheniblu6492
@byaheniblu6492 3 жыл бұрын
Great that you're back giving us new knowledge sir Ari...more power and more videos..godbless..
@asbar9093
@asbar9093 2 жыл бұрын
Clear and informative😊
@brunoalmeida4718
@brunoalmeida4718 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! Thanks for that!!! Great infos!!
@iceman-1987
@iceman-1987 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video for the rider brotherhood 😺🤙🏻
@jevadajones1645
@jevadajones1645 Жыл бұрын
Perfect perfect perfect and easy to set up!👍🏾
@olavcramer4814
@olavcramer4814 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this. Can't wait for next season to set up both my sag settings now.
@TommyNitro
@TommyNitro 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation.
@stonewilliamson1912
@stonewilliamson1912 3 жыл бұрын
Very soothing and proper explanation bro,well done 👏 I fully overstand what suspension means now and i didn't know yesterday or all the years before....👏👏👏
@jasondunn8894
@jasondunn8894 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Clear explanation of how things work however yes, I will probably have to watch it again and again for it to all sink in. I do have a great reference to draw on👍
@tomdoingfunstuff
@tomdoingfunstuff 3 жыл бұрын
I needed this
@OntarioAndrews415
@OntarioAndrews415 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Sir. Well done.
@paulcorrona3564
@paulcorrona3564 3 жыл бұрын
Man you are freaking awesome. Great class! Thank you Revzilla
@AriH211
@AriH211 3 жыл бұрын
Glad ya liked it!
@quinnfable2694
@quinnfable2694 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent stuff.
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