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2022 Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid - My Thoughts!

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Is it really a better bike?
Many people asked me what I think about the new Yamaha Tenere 700 World Raid. In my opinion, this is a brilliant move from the company - Well done Yamaha! Let me repeat it: It is a brilliant move from the company, but... as you know everything you said before "but" is shit, everything what are you going to say after that really matters! In this video, I will share my honest opinion on this topic, so if you have nothing to do, grab your favorite drink and stay with me!
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@Driftuner
@Driftuner Жыл бұрын
My father and my good friend neighbor both ride the ktm 990 and i own the tenere 700 world raid with the dual tanks. First: ive been riding motocross/enduro/adventure bikes for 20+ years and have never heard of anyone boiling petrol inside the tanks, even with the smoking hot engine of the 990. My dad rode 50.000km on his 990 across south america at really high tropical temperatures and never had such an issue. That being said i am sure i will never run into this issue with the raid since it runs pretty cool as it is. Second, the suspension difference on the raid is huge. Its not just the travel. The spring rates are much stiffer and shim-stacks are also much different. The compression and rebound damping range is much bigger compared to the stock bike and the ramp-up/bottom out resistence is simply uncomparable. The two suspension systems are in my experience completely uncomparable. Regarding the weight, let me put it this way: the tanks on the raid are so much lower that if you fill them up with the same 16L as the regular model, the bike feels considerably lighter. And i dont know what you mean with "filling up procedure"? When i fill up my bike i just open the lids one after another and just fill them up normally. Any weight difference between the left-right tanks the bike will compensate immediately, since it has a dedicated mini-fuel-pump to regulate the level on both sides. I feel like this video was very "theory based" and less experience based with the bike in question. Again, i own the raid and non of your concerns with this modell came true to me. Would love to hear you experiences with it if you ever get your hands on one. Cheers Pavlin❤
@hrithikraj6862
@hrithikraj6862 5 ай бұрын
So what is the conclusion, should a guy buy a t7 world raid ???
@Driftuner
@Driftuner 5 ай бұрын
@@hrithikraj6862 in my opinion, yes. Been riding it now for quite a while and cannot imagine a better bike for me. The more i ride it, the more i like it. Let me put it this way: if someone stole my bike today and i got the full money back from insurance, i would be buying the world raid again with closed eyes no questions asked. And everyone in my little motorcycle community that rode my bike love it immediately
@hrithikraj6862
@hrithikraj6862 5 ай бұрын
Is it good for someone who is 5feet 8 inches tall ?? Let me know...mate ?
@Driftuner
@Driftuner 5 ай бұрын
@@hrithikraj6862 should be just enough. Definetely try it out before buying
@Driftuner
@Driftuner 5 ай бұрын
@@hrithikraj6862 should be fine. Definetely test ride one before buying
@DimKAt21
@DimKAt21 2 жыл бұрын
I m glad that Yamaha released an improved version of the Tenere, cause the fan boys will be upset and want to get it, so they will sell their early version to us who are broke at a decent price😁
@PovilasPanavas
@PovilasPanavas 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Possible scenario!
@dmelson7502
@dmelson7502 2 жыл бұрын
You sir are a philosopher, but you don't have to tell everybody my game.
@unomendes
@unomendes 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that was the first thing i thought about
@pw9150
@pw9150 2 жыл бұрын
Man, so true … would be t h e best solution for all rationalists 😂😂👍🏻
@fenriskarahart9638
@fenriskarahart9638 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Pavlin for the useful and interesting views you always have. Personally, I think that the World Raid edition makes sense if someone is almost two meters tall and weighs over a hundred kg and is still planning a travel two up on tenere😊
@ivan-ywr
@ivan-ywr 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree with you The original version is still perfect machine worth the price Thanks for your opinion Regards
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Any time! Thanks for watching!
@64faffi
@64faffi 2 жыл бұрын
You always make a lot of sense, Pavlin - thank you for taking the time to produce these videoes for us. Regarding the original tyre, it probably was a production defect. As to the tube - natural rubber tubes tend to leak a little, especially light duty ones. On the upside, they normally just puncture with no further damage, whereas butyl inner tubes leak next to nothing when whole, but usually rupture if punctured. Could the stock tube be made from natural rubber? Otherwise, I fully agree that spending lots on technology usually do not bring lots of new functionality. I feel there often is a lot of hype, and when you read test reports about the newest and greatest, you are lead to believe last year's model is totally obsolete. Then you notice someone on a 30 year old machine leaving everyone on new material behind. Because he or she invested in developing their skills instead of buying new bikes every year.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good points!
@SmokDiplodoq
@SmokDiplodoq 2 жыл бұрын
Mister, if I keep watching your videos at the pace I do lately I'll hit the floor 'cause my favorite drink don't come weak.
@JozsaMarton
@JozsaMarton 2 жыл бұрын
*agree about bikes but NEVER TOO LATE TO CHANGE YOURSELF*
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@SMHman666
@SMHman666 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great summary of the model. Always good to hear what you have to say, you being a rider who really uses their bike in the way it was intended.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@guypurdy654
@guypurdy654 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Acerbis 23 litre tank for my T7 and your video has put my mind at ease. The bike will still be slim enough and I will have the range I want when I go on tour with my mates on their larger Adventure bikes.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 2 жыл бұрын
In Canada, there are roads where you can travel 400 km without a fuel station. The 500 km range makes this model appealing.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
There are but it doesn't mean you have to. I am sure that you can easily find a better route. If not a cheap petrol can will do the job.
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures Indeed, a small petrol can would do for most of it. But no, in these cases, the alternate route is an airplane. One road I've travelled has a 400 km stretch with nothing, a fuel station, then another 200 km to a small community with a fuel station. We have some truly remote places! The road in question is between Matagami and Radisson. It's on the way to the Trans-Taiga, the most remote road (by land) on the continent. Some adventure riders do the Trans-Taiga. Might be something you'd enjoy someday!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, then for this place, which I guess you are not going to ride everyday petrol can for 10 dollars would be just fine. The rest, 1,990$ you can save to travel in areas with more petrol stations.
@MarkRose1337
@MarkRose1337 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures Yep, no argument there! The same thing can be said about buying a fancy caravan versus staying in hotels.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
True
@kamailworkshop
@kamailworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Pavlin ! I'm totaly agree with you, on additional tips, the new World raid is higher than the "classic" and it should be tricky at low speed on to control the bike in case of trouble if you are less than 1m80
@PeterR0035
@PeterR0035 2 жыл бұрын
The road is the goal, not the end, nor the means (motorcycle)! ... Has always been my motto, too. So refreshing while travelling. Thank you Pavlin!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@doodle0007
@doodle0007 2 жыл бұрын
Every video is epic- the brute honesty always makes u stand apart bud! Awesome vlog!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@ntovouleon
@ntovouleon 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I stayed until the end of the video! Will definitely keep in mind for the first tire change of my T7. Thanks Pavlin, keep up the good work and traveling the world!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@rayurlich
@rayurlich Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Pavlin. You're 100% correct. We love to obsess about our bikes but they really are secondary. It's the experiences and the people that count. I'm riding a very basic DR650 from NZ to UK as it's cheap and simple! Would love to catch up for a beer in the summer of 2025 when I'm in Bulgaria. Nazdrave! 😊
@mytube335
@mytube335 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting insight Pavlin, thanks for sharing. If I may say, regarding the dual tank: comparing the T7 solution with KTM 950/990 it's not appropriate in my opinion. The KTM 950/990 engine is famous for being as hot as a vulcan, and the problem is a bit less visible with the 1190 series (I own this). I am not surprised if your friend had the tank deformed. The advantage of having a double tank is that, in case of failure of one tank due to a falling, you should be able to proceed you journey with the other one. I have seen a couple of episodes during and off-road use. As you always say, it depends what you use your bike for. I agree with you about changing the muffler position, that modification would have been a real plus. Thanks again.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the benefits of the side tanks, but as I said they come with certain risks.
@papachis9535
@papachis9535 Жыл бұрын
Probably the best general philosophical and practical review of a modern cross bike that you’ll ever see.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@douglasquaid2548
@douglasquaid2548 2 жыл бұрын
I think comparing KTM engineering to Yamaha engineering is little short sighted. KTM, like every other European manufacturer, are very short sighted when designing. They don't care if it'll work two years down the line because they plan on selling you a new bike by then. Yamaha is much more thoughtful in their approach and I'm sure they would have known of the common issues associated with the dual tank KTMs.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I think the same but only the future will show us what will be.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Well...I have to agree with this statement.
@douglasquaid2548
@douglasquaid2548 2 жыл бұрын
@@gbner9991 Are you really going to sit there and say KTMs are more reliable than Yamahas? The oversight on the exhaust hanger is baffling but the dual tanks is supposed to fix the high COG because they sit lower. They also addressed the suspension being too soft for some riders.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
BigSingle654, I agreed with the first statement but to talk about reliability after 30,000km is just not serious. KTM is very well known for its reliability issues and I don't think that this will change any time soon. I hope that you will never learn it the hard way.
@RideTheTrack
@RideTheTrack 2 жыл бұрын
@@gbner9991 LOL. Yamahas are designed to run hundreds of thousands of km, not amateur hour mileage like 30k
@bigjohno242
@bigjohno242 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Pavlin. Your insight , knowledge and advice is much appreciated
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@capt.nelsonsilva635
@capt.nelsonsilva635 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I have the tenere 700 rally, 1 months now... i love it, 1.500km done! i think the same, nice new tenere, but i prefer mine! congrats from Madeira Island, Portugal.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Enjoy your Tenere!
@TheTimmy005
@TheTimmy005 11 ай бұрын
I recently bought a world raid. I fully agree with Pavlin in this video, a lot of it is a bit additional stuff and still a shame of the exhaust. I bought the world raid actually just for the additional bigger tank ( i really love the miles i can make now) and also another simple reason: got a good deal on it. And since it is my first new motorcycle i decided to spend a bit more extra money on the world raid with a bit beter suspension. I do have to say that the wider tank compared to my testride with the orginal tenere did make it feel more bulky. But i got used to it quite quickly.
@Braapncamp
@Braapncamp 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts and insight Pavlin! If I bought a new Tenere I would probably go for the World Raid, if I already had the slim one I would have spent the money on the existing bike instead. ...or as you say, focus on adventures with the money to spend 😁👌
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@RideTheTrack
@RideTheTrack 2 жыл бұрын
I love the new bike. Will I ever need the extra 7 litres? Probably not, But the peace of mind I will have knowing I have zero chance of running out of fuel even if I get lost or miss a fuel stop will allow me to enjoy my trip better, which is what matters most! Cheers!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Even with 30l you can run out of fuel. Depend of how you plan your trips.
@paisley3518
@paisley3518 2 жыл бұрын
I truly enjoy your videos.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@everythingtenere
@everythingtenere 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, but my top of the list would be a 3’d party low tank and long seat for the regular T7 😎
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Do whatever is good for you.
@andiway1208
@andiway1208 Жыл бұрын
Ha! I wondered about that wobble, she’s due her 1st major service and that was on the list. Thank you. Love my bike BTW
@daveinwla6360
@daveinwla6360 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the word on the tires. It's too easy to assume that a tire is perfect because it's brand new or that it balances OK.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@carlosverdes8384
@carlosverdes8384 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree with you in all terms. Try to increase preload at rear shock to minimize front webbing. Crongratulations for your channel.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, thanks!
@rolandomasellikelly531
@rolandomasellikelly531 Жыл бұрын
Excelent video, always opinion based on real life experience... great job Pavlin! 👍🏼👍🏼
@Chris-1974
@Chris-1974 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same thing on the front end. I brought it back to the shop where I bought it to let them check out what was going on in the front. Turned out the front tire was not seated properly. They re-mounted the tire and now it rides perfect!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you!
@Tomix1980
@Tomix1980 2 жыл бұрын
so happy to hear youtalking about you solved the wobbeling. i one had mine perfectly balanced, but not seated well within the rim. don´t know better how to describe it. anyhow, it´s such a relief to see and hear people finding the solution to having this calm ride again. :-) of course the rest of your video is of usual quality and i share your opinion also, "just" use your bike, don´t try to improve it as if it was a upgrade game, remember why you started: it´s all about the driving. but , that said, i _also_ totally understand how people can have this GAS (gear aquisition syndrome) , because i know it from the time i myself tried to get better at being a rock guitar man in a band. and quess what, it´s more than 80% percent in the fingers, as they say so nice and max 20% in the guitar itself. if like you play a song or two. to the listeners. but i must admit, if you play gigs after gigs and spend most of your awake-time on stage, you will notice less fatique on the expensive stuff, for sure. and even after a song. but here comes the same question that i asked myself, as the guitars i dreamed of tended to cost more and more: what will i use it for and are thousands of dollars worth the expense considering how much i play in the end and how much i will only look at it . so in the end neither do i play that many gigs to spend fortune on more and more guitars, nor do i professionally race to do the upgrade battle :-D this helps me a lot to focus on the right things (for me!) . it seems we all sometimes have tendencies to blame the swim suit first, if we can´t swim :-) Greetingz and .... speed safe :-) Mariusz
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time, Mariusz!
@olliechristopher467
@olliechristopher467 10 ай бұрын
9:20 to about 9:30 Yes Pavlin!!! Thank you for this!! So many get caught up in the "latest greatest". I can tell you 100% when I do my travels it's the journey and not the bike I remember.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 10 ай бұрын
Any time!
@musyoka8
@musyoka8 2 жыл бұрын
Unbiased, honest review. Thank you.
@diederikdemits8413
@diederikdemits8413 2 жыл бұрын
Good video like always! Enjoy the ride 👍🏻
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@adrianwhite7251
@adrianwhite7251 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video and a fair review..
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Desmo904
@Desmo904 2 жыл бұрын
You make a lot of very good points Pavlin! At first I was thinking "Well, he said THIS about the petrol tanks earlier, lets see what he says now" and you came out with very compelling points as to why you still feel the same way! Gotta admit, what you said makes a lot of sense.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time, man!
@Corné-o6h
@Corné-o6h Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. Just a little note: it is never too late to change yourself ;) 🙏
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@corhendriks1755
@corhendriks1755 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Pavlin..... Could'nt agree more. Enjoy and stay safe
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@ioandragulescu6063
@ioandragulescu6063 2 жыл бұрын
well, I have some things to do but I'm still going to watch while I take longer finish my coffee :)
@barisvural5730
@barisvural5730 5 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video ❤
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Mrt_Silver_man
@Mrt_Silver_man 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as always, congratulations on the video and the effort to make us empathize. Bravo Pavlin
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@paulwatts905
@paulwatts905 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same front wheel wobble and i think an early tyre change is now on the cards. Thanks for sharing, Paul (UK)
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome, Paul!
@constantinjianu8551
@constantinjianu8551 2 жыл бұрын
Salut Pavlin, Thanks for the wobbling tip. Today I changed original front tyre and tube with Continental TKC 70 tyre and Michelin 1.1mm tube. Before mounting new tyre I checked the rim balance, fortunately rim balance is perfect. Now can I confirm everything is perfect (no wobbling), I tested till 120km/h. Have a nice day, Costi
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@MyINNOVAMotorcycling
@MyINNOVAMotorcycling Жыл бұрын
Pavlin, thanks for the review, excellent review. At expensive helmets usually the value reflects the high price. When it comes to a functional helmet, then it is clear that the cheap price is a main thing. It is also more comfortable to walk around with a cheap helmet in terms of scratches and theft. Noise can be overcome with earplugs, but the most important thing for me is that the helmet visor seal out the wind, otherwise the wind dries out the eyes and it becomes very unpleasant. On the other hand, most of the cheap helmets have no difficulty providing a reasonable wind seal at a speed of 100 km/h.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
I agree!
@PiperLund
@PiperLund 3 ай бұрын
Great video as always Pavlov! I am in the market of coming back to riding a motorcycle and this time I am interested in try riding a little bit offroad/gravel roads. So the Tenere seems to be an affordable and fun option. Yamaha had their tour visiting our local dealer with the option to try out most of Yamahas line up. I frist tried the Tenere Explore and then the World Rally (Raid with an Acrapovic exhaust). I didn't think the difference would be that big, but I have to say it really was! The WR was so much more confident and stable on the road. If I already had the Tenere, would I upgrade? No!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@keesverhagen9227
@keesverhagen9227 2 жыл бұрын
Finally. Someone who expressed the same thoughts i have. From my 1190 R i was looking to another bike. A bike that does not has some bad things the 1190 R has. And this is weight. I still need some power and i also want a bit comfort. So maybe a little bit less weight. But atleast a bike then with a bit lower center gravity. When the t7 came out i thought ok ? Lets see where this is going. But soon i became aware that it is topheavy. For me it is. When i heard from this world raid with double tanks that were placed lower i became happy. For a short time. I would be more happier if there was less gasoline but that the center gravity was a big bit lower. What Yamaha has done is purely for marketing purposes. And creating a large amount of new buyers. And now i am a bit sad actually cause Yamaha was so on the right path. I am getting older and picking the bike up after a crash is becoming more and more difficult. Expeccially when your own energy is degrading and when it is hot weather. And every time that you need to unload its luggage to loose weight that is on the top. This will drain me. All in all the concept is ok but in reality there is for me notting to gain. And this reality goes up for more people who wants to go away from the tarmac. I hope that Honda will do a 450 cc double cillinder adventure bike and keeping the weight below 160 kg. And with a low as possible center gravity. Even a 450 single cillinder like the crf 300 would be great. And then with the same interval as their 300 cc counterpart. But with a bit better suspension. I would buy such a bike immediatly. It is not the crashing that i am afraid of. Cause this will happen if you want it or not. But those heavy bikes will take all your energy. They burn you out offroad. Until now the 890 r is still the better choice for low gravity. But the maintanance interval is not so ok. And it has not the reliability for a world trip bike so to speak. So my hope is that there will be a lighter bike soon.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
It is what it is!
@CoinTradingBoy
@CoinTradingBoy 2 ай бұрын
Great video with valuable insights and information. In terms of weight the World Rally/Raid goes up to the AT levels which makes it a non favourable option. A tough choice for the new rider IMHO.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@shanelyndahalliday7240
@shanelyndahalliday7240 2 жыл бұрын
Kia ora from New Zealand.....Great informative video Pavlin, after seeing your other review on Tenere 700 mods I have decided to keep to buying the current T7 model and not wait for the World Raid. Keep up the great work P! :-) I have the Yamaha WR250r 2020 and only mods I made are the Bash Plate, Handguard and Tail tidy to attach a Rotomax fuel canister, now riding for 2 years I am so use to the stock setup, suspension, power etc I am very happy, like you state "95%" of time is what we should always be working off when considering expensive mod upgrades.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time!
@cavscout62
@cavscout62 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Pavlin, greetings from Texas, USA! We don’t get this new Tenere RR here until next year and, that’s ok with me as I’m not interested. I paid $10,250 out the door for my 2021 Tenere and the list price for this new Tenere RR here is $16,350! I find my 2021 Tenere is becoming a bigger value for my cost every time I look at other Bikes! Common Sense is something You understand and That is something that isn’t common in the world today. Great Video as usual my friend, Ride On.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@TallRider101
@TallRider101 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your comments, we share the same way of thinking. More is sometime just more, not better. We are not Travis Pastrana or Pol Tarres, however we wanted to be. So comments for average Joe is what I like.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@konxx8280
@konxx8280 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT PRESENTATION AS ALWAYS - BIG THANKS
@Mike-og4wc
@Mike-og4wc 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Pavlin! Drive safe
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@serban13tana1
@serban13tana1 Жыл бұрын
I got the world raid. She's perfect! She's sooo gooood man!!! Much better then standard!!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@robertwheaton5264
@robertwheaton5264 2 жыл бұрын
The Raid is £600 more than the rally here in the UK. Ok its still not the unicorn that we all want but seems better value to me than the Rally. Higher screen, wider pegs, better suspenders. New TFT. 23 L tank that you dont have to fill up every refill if you want to keep the weight and COG down. Some built in crash protection.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
For many will be the preferred version.
@user-cc1ml3ck8f
@user-cc1ml3ck8f 2 жыл бұрын
I don' t like big petrol tanks and i don't need them. My Transalp 700 has 17.5 l petrol tank and i have traveled all over the Balkans (including Bulgaria). Enen to the 2 pass of Romania (Transalpina and Transfagarasan) i didn't have any problem with the range. Your videos are very interesting, Pavlin.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@johnwood4448
@johnwood4448 2 жыл бұрын
Down to earth as ever Pavlin,thanks once again :0)
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, John!
@bertyboy7126
@bertyboy7126 Жыл бұрын
owning both models the world raid is a fantastic upgrade, if i could onlykeep one its the raid all the way ,the suspension alone totaly makes it worth it , the extra fuel i hardly feel, i one hundred percent recomend the raid over standerd ,but the standerd bike is still a awsome bike .
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@marcinp8132
@marcinp8132 2 жыл бұрын
I will be order new one very soon , and you help me make decision. Thank you for your thoughts. Standard T7will be more then enough for me.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
And for 95% of the riders...
@SmokinZen
@SmokinZen 2 жыл бұрын
Lots great improvements if they add cruise control it would be sweet and a quick shifter
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
and hill control, traction control... and it will never ends. At the end we will finish with a bike that will ride alone and the rider will be pointless...
@tierrucatrail
@tierrucatrail 2 жыл бұрын
7 litres are 5kg more… if you put 16 litres in the petrol tank its only 9kg more than the standard version with more suspension travel, wind protection and a few things. 1 cm more higher from the ground.. i thinks this is also important. Smart move, in my opinion, this is so much better in every situation except going to do “enduro” on sunday. Better motorcycle for traveling, offroad adventures, and everything the customer should expect from an adventure motorcycle
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@blu203
@blu203 2 жыл бұрын
Also, this video is excellent. I've learned alot from your work. Thank you
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@eduardomendonca8798
@eduardomendonca8798 Жыл бұрын
Great video. But I think that more petrol is better than less in a trip with uncertain offer of petrol bases, like Argentina, where it´s common.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
You can always take a cheap petrol can for 10$.
@Jason.1999
@Jason.1999 2 жыл бұрын
just found your Channel and I compleatly agree with everything you have said !!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man!
@thomasbraun5602
@thomasbraun5602 2 жыл бұрын
So true what you say we have to wait and hope for the next year Version ....
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Or after few years...
@marcosagosti6175
@marcosagosti6175 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, thanks for your educated point of view. I fully share the idea that a bike is just a tool. I may add that almost any bike may do, if one is willing. There are many around the world travellers using my father's old Vespa. I'm currently having a blast around Italy on Kawa J300 scooter with my wife along. Just enjoy the scenery. I had a KTM 950 back in 2004, used it for >50,000 kms across Greece and Turkey and never had any issue. The water overflows from the compensation tank if filled above the mark line, my mistake. Otherwise a near perfect bike with AMAZING suspension, even to date. While I understand your comments on the new World Raid model, there is a fundamental point missing. Real time experience with it. Your opinion is valuable, but it's just based on a "spec sheet" without actually using the bike. Let's just say the jury is still out until you tried the new model and confirm your ideas. Finally, your comparison/pov on the suspension is based exclusively on the travel. While important it misses a more important element. Quality! Suspension performance have many factors, and while travel excursion is one of them, it misses many others. And for that, one needs to test it and see if it fits. Again, thanks for your insights.
@MrGuisda
@MrGuisda Жыл бұрын
Based only on looks I’d still go for the original model
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Good decision.
@rickc6726
@rickc6726 2 жыл бұрын
Great review Pavlin, spot on...just what I thought! 😉👍
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear!
@fcalin21
@fcalin21 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed .
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good!
@johnschmidt1675
@johnschmidt1675 2 жыл бұрын
Good thoughts and content, to add some perspective. I still am unable to buy a T700 here and there is already a second special model arriving.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time, John!
@queenslander954
@queenslander954 2 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail photo of his contemplation is hilarious has anyone ever done that in the back of beyond.
@radiocrash
@radiocrash 8 ай бұрын
I didn’t have any problems mounting the tanks on my 950 adventure. I think they scrapped it because the cost and weight.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@radiocrash
@radiocrash 8 ай бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures you’re welcome my friend.
@enduromotorradtouren
@enduromotorradtouren 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your no-nonsense approach to bikes, Pavlin. The new Raid ist significantly more expensive. I'd rather save the money and go travelling. Cheers from Nürnberg/Germany, Günter
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Traveling would be much better investment!
@enduromotorradtouren
@enduromotorradtouren 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures Adventure beats gadgets.
@d.Cog420
@d.Cog420 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your insights and experience Pavin. Was liking the look of the Raid but agree that it's wise to wait a bit when new models are released. Hope it all works out though because that extra range would be great. I carry spare fuel quite often and to have that capacity built in would be much easier.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time!
@d.Cog420
@d.Cog420 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures thanks also for doing what you do. I don't agree with everything you say, of course we have different experiences, but you are true to yourself and your views which allows viewers like me something sound to work with and from: a touchstone. Not many people have the balls to do this on social media so thanks very much and respect.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@bcinspectorman
@bcinspectorman Жыл бұрын
You have to wonder how Itchy Boots is able to travel daily long distances through South America and southern Africa on bikes like the Royal Enfield and Honda's 250L with far less fuel capacity than even the standard T7.
@Mattventuring
@Mattventuring 2 жыл бұрын
I would get the old version and spend a bit on the areas I thought would benefit me the most, effectively customizing it for my own use
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good!
@Svendus
@Svendus 2 жыл бұрын
Cool review thank you Two filler cap’s real smart one for 95 octane and one for 98 octane ❓to be earnest the OEM skip plate looks rather ugly and the muffler looks awkward hanging out in the air looking like they forgot it and mounted it in the last moment before release i think your black version are beautiful. so forgett about it and ride safe 👍
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time!
@ruezi12
@ruezi12 2 жыл бұрын
Great description of your thoughts... I agree with everything you said
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@sayuas4293
@sayuas4293 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the simple display (probably more durable) and one tank of the regular model
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good!
@seanharnett3854
@seanharnett3854 2 жыл бұрын
There is a recall on some tkc 80 for cracking between the knobs from January 19 to 4/22 with a code from the factory it's made in but cannot remember it
@morphaczechofficial
@morphaczechofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video with true everywhere....Better than spend money to equip is spend money to ride... btw I had the same problem with tube and tyre wobbling (I changed new front tyre, balanced etc. and still wobbling....)I solved it - it was rear rim - untightened spokes, but looks like its front wheel problem :-)...good job Pavlin as usual, I like your videos at all...cya on the way..
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@ashfaqahmad7323
@ashfaqahmad7323 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Palvin Good video 👍
@NK-dl2nc
@NK-dl2nc 2 жыл бұрын
Suzuki had DR750 had twin tanks back in 1988. I like both versions of the Tenere but would go for the twin tanks as the bike looks better and the extra range is always a good thing.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good!
@danielprinsloo2917
@danielprinsloo2917 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pavlin - brilliant
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@donkahl63
@donkahl63 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not surprised that KTM struggled with long term durability of their split fuel tanks, but I would be surprised if Yamaha doesn’t get it right. IMO Great video!! Thanks for making it.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
We shall see!
@Dusty11408
@Dusty11408 2 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are well thought out and presented in a friendly, yet professional manner. I’m so ready to buy the Yamaha Tenere 700, but nobody has one available in Southern California. I’ll keep searching. Any ideal how this bike would stack up against the new Ducati Desert x?
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion to choose Ducati over Yamaha you have to be a radical fan of the brand Ducati.
@MrFreezook
@MrFreezook 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to hear your opinion on the Tuareg :)
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that it will happen soon.
@MrFreezook
@MrFreezook 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures No problem :) Great Channel Anyway. Great Videos. Cheers from Egypt ✌
@adamc8302
@adamc8302 11 ай бұрын
Great info!! Ty
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@themosaito
@themosaito 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the larger tank. I hate carrying a spare fuel can, and I've been in a few places in the world where a long range really counts (as in parts of South America like Chile, where the gas stations are far apart, and Bolivia, where you can turn up in a town and every single petrol station is out of gas!) The increased weight is a wet weight, so you'd have to account for that. If you don't like the weight, and normally run with 16L, you could fill the tank only part way, and the center of gravity will be lowered. I also like the increased wind protection from the larger windscreen and side parts. So... On the whole, I'm looking forward to the new Tenere.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
As I said in the video, they will sell it very well.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
​@@motorcycleadventures...up until the new Transalp and V-Strom 800 appeared, you can now buy an ex-demo Tenere WR with its first service done for under £10000, or £10.800 new! Plenty for sale, Yamaha overpriced them to start with!
@davrac2008
@davrac2008 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you.,
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@streetmachine8211
@streetmachine8211 2 жыл бұрын
I´m getting one!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good, enjoy it!
@ibidu1
@ibidu1 2 жыл бұрын
Im a motorcycle racer, we deal a lot with suspension issues. If you are getting a wobble with a certain tire and not another its more likely due to the tires size being too tall and the geometry of the bike is not properly adjusted. Most likely the forks height through the triples, are not set for the bike. Every tire brand all differ in the actual size. So I would suggest you get a tire technical spec sheet and see the over all tires height and compare it with the new conti tire. Lets say there is a 6mm difference in the height of the tires, what you do is split it in half and adjust the forks up or down by 3mm to compensate for the difference in height. So if you run a taller tire, you lower the front end of the bike 3mm. Its very simple to make small fork adjustments.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
When the people are professionals in something, they usually miss some obvious things. I told you already, the tire was bend or damaged on one spot. There is nothing with the high of the rubber or the forks. If this was only me I might agree, but hundreds of people reported the same problem.
@ibidu1
@ibidu1 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures I am not a pro by any means! Just a racer and we deal with these issue, especiialy on new setups. I did not miss what you said. I dont think your tire warping was from the tire factory. I think the tire deforming is maybe due to vibration for awhile and the tire adapted and deformed, or like you said the chinese inner tube. I have read issues with the pirelli str vibrating the front ends of the teneres 700's it is a common issue. But I wouldnt blame the tire, if the forks are not set for them. A too tall of a front tire will give you wobbles or tank slappers, thats why I was curious to see if the new tire you replaced with was taller or smaller. A too small of a tire will give you a quicker steering feel.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
I saw what the tire makes on the balance machine and this have nothing to do with the suspension setup. I hope that you will understand now.
@dubbartolec549
@dubbartolec549 2 жыл бұрын
@@motorcycleadventures Your dismissive response to @ibidu1 is extremely rude ! His point about geometry was perfectly valid. Fact that you've seen tyre rubber wobbling on a machine it doesn't mean it was your problem. You've changed tyre brand and model so you'll never know. I wonder why this wasn't resolved by warranty ?
@Niki_Parvanov
@Niki_Parvanov 2 жыл бұрын
Great commentary on the subject!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening!
@erikvarga4367
@erikvarga4367 2 жыл бұрын
Just the info and insight I needed.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@johnkarelas9028
@johnkarelas9028 2 жыл бұрын
Come to Greece ,.. this Summer.. On Erimanthos Mountain...
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe next year...
@krukbee
@krukbee 2 жыл бұрын
agree with muffler position, i've changed it with sp-01 Hp Cprse high. But should be nice to have it directly from Yamaha.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe next time...
@ricardorgomez
@ricardorgomez Жыл бұрын
Great and candid discussion on the bike especially from someone who has real experience. I'll be getting a street bike first (I'm in New York City) but my first adventure bike since my modded DR650 will be the Yama Tenere 700 World Raid. I love the simplicity and more importantly, the cost! If Suzuki had an adventure model of the DR650, this Yamaha would be very similar to it. I loved riding my DR650 and this is exactly the type of bike I wanted my DR650 to be. Well, the Ducati is gorgeous but at 2x the price..... :-D
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures Жыл бұрын
Fair enough!
@ollimoto72
@ollimoto72 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Pavel, the rubber from the tubes ist the reason wy it loose air. The chinys brands produce not only from "Kautschuk". Heidenau do these, this are better. You can repair them when you need on the road. Left hand greatings. Olli
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@prof.2248
@prof.2248 2 жыл бұрын
World Raid edition is fantastic.
@robpinter5431
@robpinter5431 2 жыл бұрын
Safari tanks in Australia now make a 25 lt aftermarket tank for the STD T7, My mate has a KTM 990 and suffers from fuel boiling issues...anyway, the sad thing about the T7 is the time it took between concept and release to the public, a lot of potential buyers were sick of waiting and went for other bike brands....unfortunately I did and bought a Triumph 800 XCA, because the T7 would have been too tall for me as well.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with the Triumph!
@darrylmoffett8323
@darrylmoffett8323 2 жыл бұрын
You said the T7 weight increased by 16kg (35.27lbs.). That’s a good amount of weight increase for off road riding. I like some of the upgrades but at what cost? Then you add the usual modifications that we do to protect our bikes and that number goes higher. I thought the purpose of the mid-weight adventure bikes was to lighten them up.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would be 220kg before the necessary weight like center stand, engine and crash guards, hand guards, and a few more, about 10kg. So it would be 230 before the luggage.
@cjmwhitehead462
@cjmwhitehead462 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus that's heavy! My 690 smcr weighs 80kg less than that!
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
It has a different purpose.
@cjmwhitehead462
@cjmwhitehead462 2 жыл бұрын
The smcr is the same weight as the enduro R, and that has a very similar purpose as the Tenere, 220kg is a ridiculous weight for a 700cc "middle weight" bike. I've come across one of these stuck in a lane in Wales, it was like manoeuvring a beached wale. I'll have a test ride though as I'm often wrong about these things!
@siimtuulik6344
@siimtuulik6344 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about getting the regular t700. Great bike, just tot too happy about the weight at around 200kg for my use, will do more offroad stuff.
@motorcycleadventures
@motorcycleadventures 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
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