Any problems so far - slow wifi, battery draining fast, crashing? Read it has problems but may be down to the android version?

I want it to watch TV, KZfaq and Netflix on, use as an alarm, a sat-nav, to take photos and videos in hd 60fps, to listen to podcasts on, to use as a personal assistant, to read my blood sugar from my cgm via NFC and Bluetooth, to pay for goods in shops using Google pay, to translate conversations with people in languages I don't speak, to keep in contact with family on via WhatsApp, to share and view my families location on, to buy my shopping on, to send and receive emails, to find my wallet, keys, etc on using my tiles, to use as a calendar, calculator, daily organiser, spellchecker, to answer my doorbell with and view callers, to run my smartphone from turning lights on and off, setting routines to save electricity, to cast content on my phone to multiple other screens in my home and car, to run my meditation app, to connect wirelessly to my home. Nas and backup photos and videos as well as stream music that I've ripped from my CDs and vinyl collection and to send via UPNP to my raspberry pi with iqaudio DAC in HD flac quality, to view my daily results from using my CPAP machine to better understand my mask fit, for online banking, charitable giving, reading books magazines and surging the web, for tracking my location history and number of steps as well as cycling data. I've probably forgotten a few. Oh yes, to power my usb-c fan to cool me down, my led string b lights when camping.... er... To connect to my father's computer over vnc to log into a remote desktop to help with his pc issues, to apply for jobs oh and of course first and foremost for watching porn.

@@daveoliver5838 My mom bought it for herself, the camera is awful but all in all.. pretty decent phone

@@daveoliver5838 wi-fi? I said I want a phone and something to store notes on. Where does wi-fi fit into this?

Depends if you want an all in one phone but this phone is great for price

Yes

Hell ye

People also forget some need backup phones / extra numbers they can't loose or even a WiFi hotspot.

I like to spend extra money if it gives me a product that lasts. This is not the case with phones. They are made to be changed in ~3 to 4 years time if you are lucky.. Software walls that will lock you out from apps and the classic "builtin battery f*** you customer" scam. I have no problem dissembling the phones and change batteries, but the industry standards make me mad.

@@newtoniantime8804 Years ago, now decades, I used to be a PC gaming journo. Got something like 300 per page. Anyway, I always bought the games, boxed versions, "originals" we used to call them, when ever possible. What is original now? Digital license is on a certain level on bar with old-school pirating. You HAVE NOTHING. EDIT: In case of mandatory online access, you don't even own your own SAVE files. Game As A Service can suck my medium sized wiener.

Agreed - at $49 that’s a total bargain.

You might have just sold me this phone as a secondary beater! (That said I most likely will pay extra tenner for the 4GB RAM)

@@magnuskallas you have a new e13 for 100 euros with 8 gb of ram ,

@@opfax163 I landed on a deal for "dated" Samsung Galaxy M51 (battery life reminds me of good old Nokia days of no worry), more than enough for me. Can't imagine paying 1000 pounds/euros/dollars for "wireless charging" and 2 extra cameras.

Do you habe the 2gb ram versions?

@@mrct-hp4lj yes 2gb version

@@niallrothery7439 so android 13 go runs smooth on that device? Do you notice lags when you are switching between apps and do multitasking? :) Cause i am thinking of getting one

@@mrct-hp4lj yes runs very smooth, Ive had mine 3 months no issues still going good awesome phone

@@mrct-hp4lj best phone for the money Id recommend it to anyone looking for a phone in this price range 😍

Where did you get yours from? Because even brand new it came with so many issues, such as petty limitations, quite likely phone restarts, and pathetic phone restart times.

London and the only thing it don't have is Don't have is a music player but other than that it's great

Maybe Xiaomi Redmi A2 2023 or one of the TCLs?

@@interstat2222 Thanks for the reply 👍

@@paulgaffey7244 do not buy Redmi A2, it doesn't have USB type C port and IP 52 certification. Plus it is full of ads and bloatware. It bends if you wear a tight jeans. I don't know much about TCL though.

You can consider Samsung A04, Nokia C32, if you are looking for a budget smartphone with good built quality. Moto e13 isn't as bad as Alex says it is. Atleast it gives stock Android experience, protective case and 10w charger in the box.

@@PavanKumar-ft5hi Thanks very much for your message I will look into the phones you have recommended 👍

More than adequate for what you mentioned. Bought one for my kid. No complaints so far😂

yes with the 8gb ram it's the best not used cheap phone on the market

How was your experience with the 8 GB RAM version?

I'm testing out the g04 right now, should have a review up next week. Stay tuned...

Thanks

I'll sub and like

you should take the new version of the e13 , it has 8 gb of ram

and the battery is very good

Nope. Next question?

I'm jealous of your Steam Deck (not exactly a budget purchase, that one!) -- but you're right, and it's true -- you can make a lot out of a lower-spec phone like this, though the screen on the e13 wouldn't be ideal for GamePass streaming and the like.

@@AlexKidman The Steam Deck has multiple different levels available. You can get the cheapest version for about £350, and it's well worth it, especially if you enjoy playing emulated retro games. It's the best retro gaming system that I know of. The question is, when it comes to budget phones, and this really is the only question: What do you expect out of it? If you expect features that are only available on £350 Samsung top end phones, then your going to be disappointed. It's about managing expectations. The fact that a budget phone like the Motorola can play games at all, is remarkable.

@@cadderley100 Oh, I don't disagree at all in terms of what can be done with a budget phone these days -- it was just the contrast between the price of a Steam Deck and the price of pretty much every Moto G series phone (and the likely buyers thereof).

@@AlexKidman Yeah, I get that. I mean, the Steam Deck is pricey. There's no getting around that. It does one job, which is play games off the internal memory, but it does do it very, very well. It feels worth the price, if you get what I mean? You won't be texting anyone on one any time soon though. That said, each device, each and every one, has it's own unique purpose. My bespoke, by bespoke I mean hacked up Steam Deck cost me about £700 by the time I was done upgrading to 4.5TB of storage, about the same price as a mid level desktop gaming system, or the same price as 10 Motorola E13's. The first day I received it, I took a screw driver to it and cracked the back off, to have a nosey around inside. Then I broke the heat shield on the NVME, but it wasn't a big deal, because I put a new 2TB NVME in anyway. I bought the cheapest version of the Steam Deck, the 64GB version, because I knew that I was going to, eventually, upgrade the internal NVME anyway, so buying the 512GB version wasn't worth it. I mean, your certainly not going to get 4.5TB of storage in a budget £70 Motorola, but then, you don't need it due to streaming games over the internet. Xbox Game Pass has dramatically changed all of that. Provided that you have the internet, you have a gaming system. Add a Data Only sim, and you can game any where, any time. Add a Moga XP5 Pad (I think it is), with phone clip, jobs a good one. For £70, a Data Only Sim, and the price of Game Pass for three months, which costs about £3 on some key sites, it's a steal. That's what I used in hospital about 3 years or so ago, before the Deck was released. Back in my day, the height of the technology that we had access to, was a Sinclair ZX Spectrum 128K, and that's if you could afford it. Now, your able to play games over the internet, on any toaster Mobile Phone. It's phenomenal, looking back, where we started from, to where we are now.

I had Sony Xperia a while back... hated it...

Redmi all day. Entry level Moto phones are basically trash. Even as a burner phone

yeah it's a + for me

I ám 51 and ám using IT, IT is good.

How was your experience with the 8 GB RAM version?

That does sound decent -- but then it's in the nature of the Android phone market that everything drops in price over time, even budget handsets.

run for it , it's hard to find something with more than 2/3 gb at this price

Looking at this now as my Huawei Y7 2019 packed in earlier tonight (battery was bloated and broke the back case). I only need a mobile for authenticators and obviously contacts so this might be a good go to

yes, I have the 8 gb ram version of this phone and whatsapp is running well

yes it does, and my e13 has just 2 gb ram memory so it can't handle the nfc writer

​@@opfax163How was your experience with the 8 GB RAM version?

What version of android did it have?

I use this phone and absolutely it's very terrifying, I can't even multitask for a minute without apps refreshing, my Instagram takes ages to open, settings app takes more than 20 seconds to load, in fact this phone is rubbish, i agree, i wouldn't recommend this to anyone !

@@Itxmelaninpapi It is honestly the worst phone I have ever had! It looks quite good, but that's about it 🤷🏻‍♂️😂 I've bought myself a Sony Xperia 10 iii (refurbished, to save money and better for the planet). Love my new phone, does everything well. Would never get a Motorola again!

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Not at all - there are plenty of flagship phones that are poor value (for example check my review of the s23+ recently on this channel) and many budget phones that are terrific value. It’s all relative.

Most Android phones these days offer a simple face unlocking feature -- but that's based off a 2D image of your face, not properly secure 3D mapping, easily fooled with a photo of you and so on. It's fine for quick unlocking, but in no real way secure.