2017 Toyota CHR Turbo vs Hybrid ROAD TEST

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Motors for the Masses

Motors for the Masses

7 жыл бұрын

Join us for the review of the ALL NEW 2017 Crossover from Toyota, the C-HR. In this episode we pitch the (av. 35mpg) Turbo against the (av.45+ mpg) Hybrid.
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@robusttj
@robusttj 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and well articulated. One of the best reviews of CHR and others should learn from you to highlight the relevant points as in here 👍
@prashantgawade5331
@prashantgawade5331 7 жыл бұрын
I find your review a genuine and based on own experience of yours rather than mugging up the specification and reading it out to the viewers. you deserve a like and subscribe
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! It's a pleasure to have you along
@radical1nick
@radical1nick 7 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews I've ever seen, perfect balance. Told me everything I needed to know with a few giggles along the way. Great work 👍
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much...plenty more to come.
@johnnyomahony5787
@johnnyomahony5787 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Dawkins is the one that has gone down with
@joegenova
@joegenova 5 жыл бұрын
That maybe I missed something. Did he say what the miles per gallon were on the hybrid?
@Bondisaurus
@Bondisaurus 7 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed because your review is worth listening to compared to others. Keep it up.
@terjesorheim
@terjesorheim 7 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Good job telling me about the car :)
@cyrokotours8118
@cyrokotours8118 7 жыл бұрын
Dream Car.....spaceship on land!!!!Amazing!
@anthonykenny1120
@anthonykenny1120 4 жыл бұрын
brilliant review, just subbed, drove this hybrid model yesterday, I had the same issue as you highlighted regarding resting elbow and the other was the rear view mirror is over bulky which I thought blocked my front vision, other wise a super model. thanks for review
@leahms5180
@leahms5180 6 жыл бұрын
I love your style. The most interesting car review I have ever came across and it just helped me realise that I didn’t make a bad decision after all ... I owned a hybrid for 4years and I just purchased a chr auto, just to see and feel the difference!
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 6 жыл бұрын
Great! Glad we could help confirm your decision. Hope you continue to like the car. Did you go for the 1800 Hybrid or 1.2T?
@PeteClarke59
@PeteClarke59 7 жыл бұрын
A sensible review for a change, most presenters read the marketing blurb and churn out the same old nonsense... and you can almost hear themselves thinking how clever they are educating the masses... congratulations on a thoughtful comparison. We're picking up the 1.8 hybrid in March it'll be ideal for punting around London and local roads... the Jag will do the motorway runs while the CH-R will do the donkeywork around town... if your thinking of getting the hybrid this year, make sure you buy it before the new car tax rules go live in April... it's Zero road tax to the 31st of March, if it's registered after that it'll be £100 for the first year rising to £140 thereafter.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
That is great! Thank you for the compliment. We aim to do real reviews from a non-biased perspective and glad you found it worthy of your comment. It is very much appreciated, so thank you very much indeed. We hope you enjoy your car!!
@sunshowerpainting1
@sunshowerpainting1 7 жыл бұрын
My friend you were born to be "on stage". Thank you for a entertaining video...
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Haha, thank you for the wonderful comment and for watching.
@charles6232
@charles6232 3 жыл бұрын
I’m in Australia and I have the 6-speed manual version, great fuel economy (best-5.6 liters per 100K). You get to change the gears when you want to, and in “sport mode”, the C-HR has a little more pep! Also, I find the blind spot monitoring and rear traffic alert systems are annoying, I have them turned off. Parking sensors okay though. But I love my C-HR!
@colinmenzies7161
@colinmenzies7161 7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff - pick my 1.2 Turbo up in 2 weeks - can't wait 👍
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Hope you enjoy it....
@chitpaul
@chitpaul 4 жыл бұрын
How have you found your car. Thinking of get a CHR hybrid after nearly 20 years of diesel.
@peterkang7198
@peterkang7198 7 жыл бұрын
I love your test drive review very much, unique insights and interesting as well! C-HR will not be on market until 2018 in China, I'm considering buying one hybrid . Thanks for the video!!
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments. I lived in China for 5 years myself, 2010-2015. Hope you enjoy the car when you get it.
@RichardHowesPhotography
@RichardHowesPhotography 7 жыл бұрын
Buying the hybrid has nothing to do with saving the planet for the most. It's for saving money. I've had a 1.5dci Qashqai for the last 3 years which has been excellent, but after driving the Honda CRV and the Toyota C-HR Hybrid, it's the C-HR I've got on order now. The biggest attraction initially though is the Co2 emmissions for company car tax benefit. That is the market it is really aiming at as there are big monthly savings to be made there. As it turned out, it is actually no cheaper than the Qashqai to run over 3 years on my 22k contract because of the poor 10k service intervals as opposed to the Qashqai's 18k intervals, but the C-HR is the best car of the three to drive mainly due to one feature which you omitted, the adaptive cruise control. I use cruise all the time and that is such a great feature. Thanks for the review though.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting. It is very interesting to hear your view from the company car perspective. Yes, you are right, sadly the adaptive cruise control was lost in the edit as I did not have the opportunity to use it properly on that day. However, thank you for the input and the information. Much appreciated!
@julierussell4916
@julierussell4916 7 жыл бұрын
I am just looking at the 1.8 hybrid for my new company vehicle, I do do a lot of motorway driving and also a lot of urban, I really do like the greener aspect alongside the low Co2 for BIK, I'm not too worried about speed these days with all the new speed laws and fines, plus I spend half my time on the motorway stuck in traffic for various reasons anyway!! I am just concerned about the motorway mileage you realistically get as I don't want it costing me to go to work!! Can you give any insight, also do you carry much around with you in the boot for work? Just wondering how it fares with a bit of weight in the boot. Appreciate any feedback you can give. Thanks!
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
It's like anything, it depends on your driving style. Being stuck in traffic means you can pootle along on electric power, acceleration and deceleration charges the battery. These cars are well put together and I do not see you being disappointed with the mileage if you drive carefully. Of course the figures advertised are rubbish as they are in test (lab) conditions often just an engine running on a bench rather than actually in a car. The real mpg is around 10-15 less than the brochures so I would expect 60-65mpg for careful driving
@RichardHowesPhotography
@RichardHowesPhotography 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Julie, When I had the 1.5dci Qashqai, I used to average 49mpg over everything. With the C-HR I am averaging 53mpg. What I have found is when I thrash the car, it sucks a lot more juice than Qashqai ever did, but when I drive like Miss Daisy, it gives me a far great mpg than the Qashqai ever did. My commute to work is 21 miles which is mostly A-roads and a about 5 miles through urban areas. The greatest MPG I have had over my commute is 65mpg in the last 2500 miles. It's nearly always only me in the car, but I do carry a fair bit in my boot as it's normally a third full as a minimum. I do also occasionally drive a 220 mile round trip on just the A1 and M62. I find at 70mph it's pretty good and you will get 52-55mpg no problem, but I normally sit with my cruise on at 80mph or 85mph depending on the time of day and that costs me 5 to 7 mpg.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Great response! It seems I was not far out. I haven't driven a CH-R over a longer distance so glad you could offer a realistic figure. Thank you!
@itsJulianLam
@itsJulianLam 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, thanks for posting this review on the Toyota CHR !. This is one of the better reviews I've come across so far which demonstrates the performances of the two different engines. Here in Australia, the CHR will be released for sale sometime later this month (February), I really like the style, especially in the unique Radiant Green colour. I'm actually thinking of buying one !. We will only be getting the 1.2 litre turbo engine, and not the hybrid. I was really interested to see how the 1.2l turbo engine performs, as the CHR is not a light car for its class, weighing in around 1500 kilos (from what I've read), and an engine that only produces 85kw, its power to weight ratio does not appear to be very good compared to other SUV's in its class. I understand that in the UK and Europe, you get the CHR's that are manufactured in Turkey. Where as here in Australia we get the CHR's that are built in Japan. I really hope our CHR's include the high quality JBL sound system like you do in the UK. On another note when using the Park Assist, is it 100% guaranteed not to impact another vehicle nearby ?. If it does, I could imagine many owners would send Toyota the invoice for the repair costs involved. :-)
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, glad you liked the review. I understand the Park Assist is excellent and although it is claimed to park in the space provided (which is the reason the car monitors the space it drives past first); I do wonder if the car was dirty if this would affect the park assist. Like a lot of things, they go through rigorous testing before considering including such a feature on a mainstream car, but I guess with all electrics, they can go wrong.....
@rookie145
@rookie145 4 жыл бұрын
good video
@lalaisgongon
@lalaisgongon 7 жыл бұрын
Hi there, hows the pick compared to the qashqai 1.2t cvt. i have that right now and it seems a little slower to pick up the pace
@richierich9761
@richierich9761 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps an explanation of how a CVT works would have helped you understand it and we could have avoided the "goes to 5,500rpm" comments. A lot of these "where technology is heading" features have been around for a long time ie Park Assist was an option on Skoda's back in 2008 the all the other stuff is widely used and has been for a number of years, its hardly new, and the features unique to Toyota were largely ignored.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, I do understand park assist has been around for very long time, featured on TopGear many years ago; but it has not been common place on cars in general until very recently. If the video was focused on technology it would become very boring very quickly. The point of "Where technology is heading" is to imply more common on a wider range of cars today, rather than a rare occurrence. I aim to make amusing, not-technology flooded video's...but I cannot please everyone of course. Thank you for the comment. Some are noted for future videos.
@mrkazishaon6124
@mrkazishaon6124 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. What is real life MPG?
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 7 жыл бұрын
I test drove it and while its CVT was better than Nissan and Kia, CVT needs more frequent maintenance and is less reliable. I loved the C-HR design but it really needs more power. I heard that a manual transmission is offered outside of the US which would have encouraged me to consider it. Ideally, it needs the Camry's 2.5 litre engine and needs a manual transmission version and a sunroof, and Apple Carplay.
@jamesowen4360
@jamesowen4360 5 жыл бұрын
Thats the cvt gearbox, im considering a hybrid version, love the looks drove one. The seats are great. So comfortable. Im just unsure if id get bored. Plus theres no Android or apple play. Im 31 like fun to drive cars. Is this car going to bore me??????
@AutoStartTest
@AutoStartTest 7 жыл бұрын
have a look on my full review C-HR
@Dracsh
@Dracsh 6 жыл бұрын
The hybrid version is cheaper in Singapore due to the subsidies given to greener car
@user-oj8ho9id5d
@user-oj8ho9id5d 5 ай бұрын
Hello there, I want to buy a second hand C-HR, is hybrid to go and what’s the difference between 2017, 2018, 2019❤❤
@wiggleme08
@wiggleme08 7 жыл бұрын
is the hybrid a plugin?
@dhanasiridesilva7518
@dhanasiridesilva7518 6 жыл бұрын
Can any one tell me Toyota CHR ,1200cc is full time 4WD or user can select when you need it . Thanks
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 6 жыл бұрын
You need to select which drive mode you want when you buy the car, either 2WD (front) or AWD, which is permanent.
@onura.5767
@onura.5767 7 жыл бұрын
15:44 Big steering mechanism?! You mean the 'BSM' which stands for Blind spot monitor
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Yes I know, I was just being jovial.
@EvendimataE
@EvendimataE 7 жыл бұрын
i will buy a chr here in US if toyota can match or better the honda civic hatchback 1.5 turbo 174hp 31-40 mpg
@MrLindsaydr
@MrLindsaydr 6 жыл бұрын
MPG??
@harziar3248
@harziar3248 Жыл бұрын
Which one is more economy?
@ssgeek4515
@ssgeek4515 5 жыл бұрын
I believe it has a constant variable transmission.If it does the only thing it's good for is...you can do the same top speed in reverse as forward. CVT gearbox is ancient Remember a DAF 66 car.As for the hybrids,infact all hybrids...they are excempt from MOT emission testing even with Co2 from the exhaust.Makes u think why have a hybrid.
@jdredbull283
@jdredbull283 6 жыл бұрын
for max fun factor watch this video with subtitles on
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, indeed...and I thought I spoke quite well....clearly not lol
@linglee4072
@linglee4072 7 жыл бұрын
turbo engine engines have a much greater oppertunities for the dealers to earn more money because it have more smaller and pressurize parts and components to replace or repair!!!
@warbabe81
@warbabe81 3 ай бұрын
Where on UK roads cab you do 100 miles an hour? You’re lucky if you get up to 30 miles an hour!
@whiterussianpanther6180
@whiterussianpanther6180 6 жыл бұрын
Mpg?
@lindachanmalcolm
@lindachanmalcolm 7 жыл бұрын
Would u still be able to warm the car up on cold days without leaving the key in the car?
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, but depends how far the car is away from your house.
@BlackPawGaming
@BlackPawGaming 7 жыл бұрын
this car looks freaking awesome.
@markmd9
@markmd9 4 жыл бұрын
Observe with what speeds this car is overtaken :)
@stephenbailey7652
@stephenbailey7652 7 жыл бұрын
The Door Trim, that is mentioned, is NOT an issue. Just raise up the seat a little & I am More than pleased. My arm, is comfortable on the top. Any niggles, can be rectified, without hardly any effort. I went for the Excel. 1.2 Turbo. It has nice silver edges on dash board & pillars, NOT purple. The seats are half Cloth & Leather & very, very smart & very comfortable. Plus the wheels, on the Excel, are better, more spokes. The Roof is NOT black, I am so pleased. It actually costs about £995 less tan the Dynamic. Cost me £24,700 with add ons, like Front Silver Light surrounds = Chrome Pack. Side Chrome & Rear Boot finish. Just one niggle. Best not install the Chrome pack in winter, as parts of mine are coming unstuck, due to bad cold, wet weather, which has made some parts lift away. It can be remedied, carefully, with drying out & a Hair dryer. Great handling & I am still to find out about economy. If anyone is concerned about no CD player. I purchased one portable unit from Argos (Anti Shock) used a good cable, to plug in to AV socket. OK you will have to use 2 x AA Batteries, you will not be able to change the lists, music. But it hides safely away in the Glove Compartment, if you really want to use it, with the UP & DOWN Volume Controls, from the Dash Board Screen & the Steering Wheel. Super Dooper. £17.99 & 2.99 for wire. "Pleasantly Surprised & Very Happy" There is always another BETTER way to GO with TOYOTA. £20.04 Per Month Fully Comprehensive Insurance. That is great safe driving. Try: www.GoCompare.com
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Great response from an owner! Thank you for your input. I understand your point about the seat but for me, that would make it too high for me. Glad you are enjoying the car, like I said I can perhaps see myself with one as a daily driver in the future and for me as a current Mustang and Mercedes E-class owner, I like power and handling, with comfort. That certainly has the comfort, although I would like to see a 2 litre turbo petrol option.
@darkside7382
@darkside7382 6 жыл бұрын
I've got the manual 2017 version, its actually amazing. But how do you raise the car seats?
@FoxMulder35
@FoxMulder35 7 жыл бұрын
and petrol consumption between the 2 ? saving the planet ok, but saving money also ;)
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right, the hybrid is better on mpg but with the extra weight it is not as great as you would expect.
@MrDrifterNL
@MrDrifterNL 7 жыл бұрын
Just went to the Toyota Canadian website and the 2018 model has the 2.0L engine. I wonder if the 2.0L will make it to Europe.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
That will certainly make a difference!
@fundiver198
@fundiver198 7 жыл бұрын
No they offer different engines for different markets. US and Canada get the 2,0 NA engine, because fuel consumption is considered less important in those markets.
@mhmoochy
@mhmoochy 3 жыл бұрын
It may sound like I love my planet which I do but I also love paying half price at gas station!
@mannicky4212
@mannicky4212 7 жыл бұрын
Is there any USB port in C-HR ?
@ggtontoyono
@ggtontoyono 7 жыл бұрын
yes one
@msanseverino78
@msanseverino78 6 жыл бұрын
Bro what the hell I looking in to this model over here in the states and it’s a new model for 2018 here but it’s striped down compared to your uk version . No leather seats no hybrid no turbo . Just a 2.0 144 hp. Wonder why Toyota doing this . I also love to know why no AWD as a option. Awd is very much need here in New England. Other thing no navigation and rear camera is displayed on the mirror not the screen on the us version. I wondering if there just testing the waters and will add more options for 2019
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 6 жыл бұрын
WOW! That is a poor...if I dare say 'range' Like you say perhaps they are testing the water although the hybrid seems popular in the US. However according to Car&driver, Toyota seems to think the demand for a hybrid is not in the US. Do they think everyone still wants big V8's there? blog.caranddriver.com/toyota-says-turbo-and-hybrid-c-hr-wont-come-to-u-s-admits-faster-version-is-possible/
@thomassrensen9423
@thomassrensen9423 7 жыл бұрын
The CO2 number on the car is not the complete picture. If you include the fabrication and degradation of the batteries the total CO2 on the Hybrid and electric cars is actually higher and more polluting than ordinary cars...
@deniapacalda7017
@deniapacalda7017 7 жыл бұрын
does always rain
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
no
@jroc01
@jroc01 7 жыл бұрын
"Dingles"
@nicolaslocke1433
@nicolaslocke1433 7 жыл бұрын
I really want to see him review a Tesla. His mind would explode.
@jakeflo4215
@jakeflo4215 6 жыл бұрын
Lane assistance is useless it will not assist you it will just give a a little movement on steering wheel and if you don't touch it or control it you will end up on the other lane, Toyota lane assistant is useless not like this guy is telling us.
@deadelvis68
@deadelvis68 7 жыл бұрын
Crappy continuously variable transmission (CVT).Had on my DAF in the 1970`s. Not merit to it whatsoever perhaps helps with mpg or is cheaper than conventional auto to make.I would not touch it with a bargepole.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
It is strange to get used to although I'm technology has moved on from the 70's variants...only time will tell I guess.
@timogronroos4642
@timogronroos4642 5 жыл бұрын
CVT as you describe, in the 1.2 Turbo Yes, but the hybrid No. Hybrid system is Continously Variable, but completely different, genius design. You just can't brake it.
@annafeklistova5348
@annafeklistova5348 7 жыл бұрын
1.2 Turbo Faster? REALLY? That What we call FAKE NEWS these days. Go to www.toyota.co.uk locate 1.2 Turbo Automatic = 11.1 Seconds, 1.8 Hybrid = 11 seconds. In addition what toyota does not tell you is when there is a full battery performance is different: it can do it in 10 seconds.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
The manual is 0.2 seconds faster!...as are most (not all...like the Jaguar F-type) manuals.
@HVCPfilmproducties
@HVCPfilmproducties 5 жыл бұрын
Cost of this car would be less if you British would decide to drive as wé do and have the steeringwheel etc. to the left! Hahaha
@scottsaunders3796
@scottsaunders3796 7 жыл бұрын
USA no turbo no hybrid and no all wheel drive
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Oh dear. So what option do you get?
@Truth4Lyf
@Truth4Lyf 6 жыл бұрын
Shit I bought the 2016 model of this car instead of the 2017 model. 2017 model has nicer headlights :(
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 6 жыл бұрын
Was it just the bulb surrounds that were different?
@Truth4Lyf
@Truth4Lyf 6 жыл бұрын
I think so yh, ive got the manual transmission 1.2 litre turbo charged version. Thought it was 2017 model one till I saw these videos!
@sillymanami
@sillymanami 7 жыл бұрын
Qu
@Elaba_
@Elaba_ 6 жыл бұрын
Prisoners would feel at home at the back seats of this car.
@mboiko
@mboiko 7 жыл бұрын
I think I like the white roof better.... www.carangospb.com/wp-content/uploads/Novo-Toyota-CH-R-%C3%A9-flagrado-na-Turquia-4.jpg
@bobrobertson9547
@bobrobertson9547 7 жыл бұрын
Has this guy got Aspergers or something? Who is his audience? I find him very patronising.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
HAHA! Aspergers? You clearly do not know what that is! As a psychologist, I have quite a bit of experience of Mental health disorders, and it seems you struggle to understand what one is....and what a review with a touch of humour is. You ask who my audience is? Perhaps one of the 83,000 viewers can tell you.....Please explain how you think I am patronising. Oh well, can't please everyone, never mind...I look forward to your review.
@graeme6667
@graeme6667 7 жыл бұрын
He must be American; they don't understand good British and Australian humour, only the insipid nonsense that passes for humour there. I have a C-HR Koba AWD on order, but will be removing the 18-inch wheels and replacing with 17's. Low-profile tyres are stupid on the poor roads in Australia, but I need the LED headlights for our dark bush roads.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
HAHA! Indeed. Do you find AWD is essential there? Excuse my ignorance, is it due to the dusty roads? Hope you enjoy it!
@graeme6667
@graeme6667 7 жыл бұрын
Not essential for the majority (who, contrary to what Australians like to portray, actually live in the cities), but for me, living in the bush and travelling daily on gravel roads, it is a huge additional safety feature, particularly for my wife who doesn't enjoy driving. I've had my Prado (full-time 4WD, now with 363,000 km) for nineteen years and it has been brilliant. Even the sealed roads around here have poor surfaces with potholes, undulations, broken shoulders, subsidence, truck damage and so-on and I find AWD helps a great deal with stability. I'm keeping the Prado, but looking for something that uses less fuel and is cheaper to run as a daily driver. I would have preferred something with a bit more ground clearance than the C-HR, but I just like the Toyota so much better than the Vitara, CX3 etc. I considered a diesel Forester, but it's a bit larger than the purpose I need it for and servicing costs are too high. After reading a lot of reviews, I was concerned about the C-HR's perceived lack of power, but after test-driving one with three adults on-board, I find those reviews do not reflect real-world performance. Most vehicles driven on the road are never driven at anywhere near full power. I think a big part of why the C-HR's performance is, in my opinion, perfectly adequate is that maximum torque is available from 1500 RPM. I am an avid motorcyclist, so it's not like I don't understand what high power and light weight is like. By the way, I liked the presentation of your review. Being Australian and understanding British humour, I found it entertaining as well as informative.
@motorsforthemasses
@motorsforthemasses 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the compliment. The Forester is a good vehicle but definitely expensive to maintain. I look forward to hearing your experience when you own CH-R!
@Vass881234
@Vass881234 6 жыл бұрын
UK CO2 company Car Tax DOUBLES ! in 2 years for 86 CO2's BEWARE !!!!
@Humppa800
@Humppa800 7 жыл бұрын
1.2t cvt not change any gears.... it is just computer trick.
@laterz76
@laterz76 5 жыл бұрын
Matti Leinonen learn to drive a CVT properly!
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