1990 Pontiac Grand Prix STE | Retro Review

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Жыл бұрын

Hmm, The Grand Prix STE or the Taurus SHO? I wish we had done a comparo test.
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@genoesposito2895
@genoesposito2895 Жыл бұрын
Had this exact car as my first ever car. Got it after high school in 2012 for $500. Massive nostalgia.
@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106
@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106 Жыл бұрын
Lol where did you find one these at for that price?
@manfredmann2766
@manfredmann2766 Жыл бұрын
Nowhere nowadays
@jiggity76
@jiggity76 Жыл бұрын
@@manfredmann2766 I found my 93 STE after about 16 years of looking. I had to go to California to bring it back home to the Midwest. I also paid $500 for it.
@DS_IndustrieZ
@DS_IndustrieZ Жыл бұрын
500$ !!! 😭 I had a 91 LE bought it for 400$ 3.1mpfi sedan needed a driver side wheel hub an fuel pump wire bypassed from rats/shorting probly from sitting..., it ran great
@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106
@retiredsnowbunnyhunterx5106 Жыл бұрын
@@DS_IndustrieZ Wheel hub assembly was easy to do but that fuel pump have no choice but to drop the tank. But over all that was a good price for it. Bet that 3.1 had some pep in it too.
@tkewrestler2662
@tkewrestler2662 Жыл бұрын
It is such a throwback to see all those buttons in an automobile.
@WayneMoyer
@WayneMoyer Жыл бұрын
BUTTONS!
@Kimbrough87
@Kimbrough87 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Tesla is the future ❤
@rogergoodman8665
@rogergoodman8665 Жыл бұрын
It was the end of the Cocaine era! People needed buttons to keep fidgety fingers occupied!
@jonathansmith1590
@jonathansmith1590 Жыл бұрын
​@@Kimbrough87 Yep, unfortunately 😕
@Kimbrough87
@Kimbrough87 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathansmith1590 hey moveing forward and leaving the past behind is not a bad Thing.
@robertpsarudakis3474
@robertpsarudakis3474 Жыл бұрын
I remember when these came out....back then they were a head of their time...and in styling. Very cool. I still remember my neighbor buying a green one brand new and complaining about car payments. LOL a simpler time!
@MrHugawa
@MrHugawa Жыл бұрын
I had a 1992 Grand Prix GTP and it had an interior pretty close to this, without a doubt my favorite car... seats were amazing.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 10 ай бұрын
Dramatically better looking car as well.
@tony_2024
@tony_2024 Жыл бұрын
I miss all those Pontiacs. they were the best cars ever
@fiiv3s
@fiiv3s Жыл бұрын
There is something about 90s GM that i just love
@davidaubin3902
@davidaubin3902 Жыл бұрын
3:47 John: THERE’S NO DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE INSTRUMENTS, HOWEVER! LOL
@alexander1485
@alexander1485 Жыл бұрын
Only cause they arent electronic
@dronepilot260rc
@dronepilot260rc Жыл бұрын
I miss my 91 Grand Prix almost over 20 years ago 🎉
@OLDS98
@OLDS98 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another GM video. Thank you that you have kept them coming. I remember when this replaced the Pontiac 6000 STE They could have easily called this sedan 6000 STE, but it was a Grand Prix sedan. This car did have some unique features as well. Driving Grand Prix... get in your Pontiac and drive! Pontiac drive! This car and the Bonneville SSE were too close in features and size. They did share many features. Thank you again.
@hailstorm1986
@hailstorm1986 Жыл бұрын
If the 3800 supercharged engine was under the hood, it'd hit 60 in at least 7.5 seconds.
@VDPEFi
@VDPEFi Жыл бұрын
​@@ericd1632 are you ever invited to one?
@Lucille69caddy
@Lucille69caddy Жыл бұрын
Quicker. MUCH. My heavier 2002 GTP does 0-60 in mid to upper 6 secs.
@genegjr
@genegjr Жыл бұрын
It’s great to see these throwback shows and seeing Pontiac again which is no longer around
@dreamer40
@dreamer40 Жыл бұрын
As an Oldsmobile Intrigue owner whose car was built at the same GM Fairfax Assembly in Kansas City, I applaud and appreciate those of you (retired and active) who built these sedans over the years 😍
@dabotheone4662
@dabotheone4662 Жыл бұрын
I had 2 of those cars, they were quick for the time and very comfortable. Reliability was an issue as was typical for the era. The Achilles heel today for owning one is the unobtanium Powermaster III braking system master cylinder. Very hard to find outside of eBay and eBay is not a place a car owner wants to lean on.
@jasonroberts9357
@jasonroberts9357 Жыл бұрын
Great comment! Thanks for sharing your experience with these rare classics!
@advilshenk
@advilshenk Жыл бұрын
I believe you can delete/convert it to a vacuum assist hydraulic master cylinder set up. You will no longer have abs but the car still can be used/ driven. My 86 6000ste i had issues sourcing parts for the junk teves pressurized brake unit. My system was removed and i put in a vacuum break booster hydraulic master cylinder from a chevy blazer. On top of that plumbed in a wilwood adjustable proportioning valve. 2 yrs later still good.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Didnt many cadillacs have the teves unit?
@FrozenDonut13
@FrozenDonut13 Жыл бұрын
I love how MotorWeek are bringing back these. Makes their channel funner to watch, thanks MW!!
@smithraymond09029
@smithraymond09029 Жыл бұрын
Pontiac of this era really loved buttons.
@PintoPopProductions
@PintoPopProductions Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one of these STE Turbos in a junkyard in 2009. Same color as this test car. I barely knew what it was. Grabbed the door badges and left because I was there to grab parts off an '86 6000 STE. The yard also had a non-turbo Grand Prix STE. Haven't seen a GP STE Turbo since.
@jiggity76
@jiggity76 Жыл бұрын
That would make sense. Only 1,000 STE Turbo's were made for one year only...1990. Seven hundred in White and 300 in Maroon.
@klasseact6663
@klasseact6663 Жыл бұрын
Look at that quality hood fitment in the beginning of the video🙄🙄🙄
@GP1138
@GP1138 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't pass the gumball test!
@lukerinderknecht2982
@lukerinderknecht2982 Жыл бұрын
4:35 whenever he says "satellite radio controls" in these old reviews, I have to remind myself hes not talking about "satellite radio" 😅
@TJC450
@TJC450 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing 😂
@patrickmichael3384
@patrickmichael3384 Жыл бұрын
Yes. This was absolutely pre-Sirius/XM (although Sirius satellite radio was established in 1990) days.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 10 ай бұрын
@@patrickmichael3384 XM Satellite Radio was established in 1988.
@patrickmichael3384
@patrickmichael3384 10 ай бұрын
@rodmunch69 and until Sirius and XM merged, they were based in 2 different cities; Sirius in New York and XM in Washington D.C.
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 10 ай бұрын
@@patrickmichael3384 yep, I remember it well, I had XM very early on, until they merged. I still have SiriusXM today in the car, if you shop around you can get some very good deals on it.
@oliverrojas3185
@oliverrojas3185 Жыл бұрын
This is a nice car that came for a limited time with the option of a 5 speed manual when GM introduced the optional 3.4 liter 24 valve dual overhead cam V-6. Imagine, back in the nineties, prowling around the streets looking for a BMW 5 Series. With that engine to tranny combo, it's doable.
@carsjt1076
@carsjt1076 Жыл бұрын
I do remember that set up as well. Always liked the 4 door with a 5 speed set up. There was a 1990 STE with a 5 speed on the used lot at a Nissan dealership in my hometown. Nobody wanted it and it sat for a long time. I should have bought it back then. It was a dark red with gray leather. Still think about it
@philipbair4795
@philipbair4795 Жыл бұрын
These offerings looked great new. Yet we still see straight 6 bmw's everywhere, easily racking up 200-300k miles and more. GM products didn't age well, and so for many people this video is the first/last time they'll ever see one of these pontiacs
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Interiors fell apart first then probably the head gasket. Even the later revised "3100" 3.1 had gasket issues. 3800 versions woud be best
@Lucille69caddy
@Lucille69caddy Жыл бұрын
@@philipbair4795Yeah, OK. Beemers are maintenance nightmares.
@philipbair4795
@philipbair4795 Жыл бұрын
Just saw this. not from the time period we're talking about. I've got one with 345k.
@randomrazr
@randomrazr Жыл бұрын
who needs an airbag when u got buttons!
@palebeachbum
@palebeachbum Жыл бұрын
If you were old enough to remember in the early 90s, you know exactly how Pontiac exhausts sounded. A friend had a 1992 Grand Prix sedan with the 3.1L (not turbo). It was so weirdly floaty and soft with a split bench seat and a column shifter, which made no sense to me considering this was supposed to be the sportiest version of this platform compared to the Regal, Lumina, and Cutlass Supreme. GM did a good job differentiating the 4 cars with styling, but a terrible job differentiating driving dynamics.
@jasonformulaboater357
@jasonformulaboater357 Жыл бұрын
I remember being amazed at that interior when I saw it at the car show in '89.
@landyachtfan79
@landyachtfan79 Жыл бұрын
The Holy Grail of ALL Grand Prixs...................YES!!!!!!!!!!!
@MidnightinSavannah
@MidnightinSavannah Жыл бұрын
You've never drove a 1969 GP with a 428 in it?
@aaron7671
@aaron7671 6 ай бұрын
Yeah a fwd v6 isnt the holy grail of all GPs 😂
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 Жыл бұрын
The Grand Prix two-door of this era always caught my attention. I was always torn between this or the Cutlass Supreme International. I always laugh when I see the steering wheels of the Grand Prix and Bonneville of the late 80s/early 90s loaded up with those buttons. But they are precursors to the loaded wheels available on most cars these days. Its always strange how whats old is new again. Full width taillamps and light bars up front are all the rage these days. One other thing is I can never understand why GM saved Buick and killed Pontiac. That could've been their total performance brand. Buick no longer had that differentiation of Wildcat, Type-T, GNX, etc. But Pontiac was importing outstanding Holden-built cars and could've been expanded(even the small Solstice with the 2.0T was a fun little car, as was the 2.0T G5s)from there.
@jiggity76
@jiggity76 Жыл бұрын
I'm very lucky enough to own both an STE and Cutlass Supreme International coupe.
@coletrickle-km7cl
@coletrickle-km7cl Жыл бұрын
@hellkitty1014--heres why because Buick has always sold well here and in China And was profitable while pontiac was only selling in the USA and had not turned a profit in years. GM was spread thin having so many brands. And at the time (2008, 2009 recession/ housing crisis)GM was taking a huge loan bailout from the government and GM was trying to not go out of business, and the government told GM to get rid of pontiac So they dragged pontiac behind the barn and killed it.
@johnjones393
@johnjones393 Жыл бұрын
It's no wonder the SHO was the choice for American performance sedans in that era.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Even nowadays 220hp out of 3.0 liters aint bad. Yamaha did a great job i hear they could have pulled more power but ford didnt want to outshine the mustang gt 225hp 5.0L
@hellkitty1014
@hellkitty1014 Жыл бұрын
​@@CRAPO2011yes, test mules were north of 250hp, reliably. Ford also didn't want to pony up for the heavier-dutt clutch. Kinda like why they won't put the Tremec in all 5.0 Coyotes these days.
@briantorres7339
@briantorres7339 Жыл бұрын
@@CRAPO2011 the 4 speed automatic that was designed for the SHO’s engine was still too weak for it as well as pretty much anything it was in.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
@@briantorres7339 The auto only appeared with the 1992 redesign/ heavy refresh. Pre 1992s were manual only ( though I hear the Mazda derived 5MT wasn't all that robust if you liked doing hard launches)
@jiggity76
@jiggity76 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the LQ1/5 speed combo starting in 91.
@heitorbernardes7977
@heitorbernardes7977 Жыл бұрын
I would take a cutlass 3.4 twin cam anyday
@jiggity76
@jiggity76 Жыл бұрын
These Turbo STE's were only available for one year...1990. From 91-96, the 3.4 TWIN CAM became available. I own a 93 TWIN CAM STE. I also own a 91 Cutlass TWIN CAM.
@lobsterwhisperer7932
@lobsterwhisperer7932 Жыл бұрын
you guys should have retro marathons on a loop, i love those marathons you do.
@manfredmann2766
@manfredmann2766 Жыл бұрын
Rented a 92 Grand Prix on a trip in 92, it rode well and was comfortable. The 90 SHO was a better value for the money back then
@jackjohnson7396
@jackjohnson7396 Жыл бұрын
Friend bought one new in 90 with the six. He kept it for about ten years sold it with about 150 grand on it. Very well maintained detailed it yearly. Have not seen one in a very long time.
@RaymondHaley-bi8lx
@RaymondHaley-bi8lx Жыл бұрын
A daily driver for the stay at home types, Pontiac knew how to transform Euro styling into American performance, nice combination.
@pepinocabron
@pepinocabron Жыл бұрын
Those buttons on the steering wheel are so weird looking but interesting. I like the '98 model, it was like from the future and so sporty.
@ericharrison619
@ericharrison619 Жыл бұрын
Never had one of these (unicorn 3.1 turbo) but had a 89 6000 STE AWD and a 98 Bonneville SSEi supercharged. Both were far from new when I got them yet were both great cars.
@MPMeterman
@MPMeterman Жыл бұрын
This car shouldn’t have been slower than the comparable coupe.
@sjhudon386
@sjhudon386 Жыл бұрын
They said it was 20 degrees cooler in the previous test. Maybe the intercooler was too small on this model.
@MPMeterman
@MPMeterman Жыл бұрын
@@sjhudon386 - you’re right. I totally overlooked that the first time.
@ericd1632
@ericd1632 Жыл бұрын
Hate to break it to you John, but the hood vents aren't for air induction, they're heat extractors
@frankb.1546
@frankb.1546 Жыл бұрын
That steering wheel. 🥴
@bmstylee
@bmstylee Жыл бұрын
My parents had an Olds with a Quad 4. Biggest pos ever made. It went through 3 head gaskets in about 80k miles.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Olds shoulda just put a turbo on the iron duke
@danmccarthy4700
@danmccarthy4700 Жыл бұрын
God, those things sounded awful... like the engine was being damaged just by running.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
@@danmccarthy4700 haha they kinda sounded like a broken diesel, agricultural. I hear they can run forever though
@2F4R4W4Y
@2F4R4W4Y Жыл бұрын
RIP Pontiac!
@energyasylum997
@energyasylum997 5 ай бұрын
During the late 1980s to 2000s, Accords and Camrys were the vehicles my parents bought and used as our “family car”. Though whenever a car rental was needed, it’d usually be a Pontiac, which I thought looked waaaay cooler than the Accord and Camry, inside and out!!!
@Cheezwizzz
@Cheezwizzz Жыл бұрын
Love that steering wheel
@jeepthing98
@jeepthing98 Жыл бұрын
SHO > STE. The Taurus SHO was 2+ seconds faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile, stopped shorter and handled the slalom better. The comparison at the end with it seems forced to find negatives because in the actual MW test of the 1989 SHO John said "Torque steer is not a problem" yet here it had "significant torque steer" ??
@thevacdude
@thevacdude Жыл бұрын
My cousin Cole had one of these, I don't believe it was an STE, might have been an SE. I remember it when I was about 10 years old or, so, I'm 30 next year, and that was 20 years ago. R I P cousin Cole, miss you.
@Thomas-bs9xv
@Thomas-bs9xv 7 ай бұрын
Bought a '92 back in 2004 for $1100 that was loaded and definitely ahead of its time
@johnnymason2460
@johnnymason2460 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the STE Turbo sedan over the Turbo Coupe. This would make a great family car during the week and a performance car for the weekend.
@crlaw75
@crlaw75 8 ай бұрын
We had an '89 base model in black. Great car, especially when the dash lit up at night. We had to have it replaced, as it was under a recall at that time.
@mervinprone
@mervinprone Жыл бұрын
I can’t look at this car without seeing rust. Saw so many of them totally wrecked.
@jiggity76
@jiggity76 Жыл бұрын
My 93 STE came from California. It's pristine underneath!
@DS_IndustrieZ
@DS_IndustrieZ Жыл бұрын
That interior is 🤝🥫😭❤️😀💯!!, My 91 LE had dark cloth bench seats and a column shift, delco am FM cassette, an power windows n locks..... 😀😭
@markhagerman1837
@markhagerman1837 Жыл бұрын
Lackluster quality and substandard fit and finish was the name of the game for GM then. But, these GPs were quiet and very comfortable.
@timyank8433
@timyank8433 Жыл бұрын
These came out when I was a kid and it was straight up my dream car. I loved the full width headlight treatment. Also Im curious about the hod vents. He mentions they are there to add additional ventilation for the engine, however, when they pop the hood, the insulation looks completely solid without any cut outs for the said vents. So are they truly functional?
@oambrosia
@oambrosia Жыл бұрын
I think so. If you look on the right when the hood goes up it appears you can see light through the louvers.
@alexander1485
@alexander1485 Жыл бұрын
Why are 1980 and early 90s usa passenger cars so freaking rare now?
@bmstylee
@bmstylee Жыл бұрын
Quality. The US was just as bad as the British auto industry on quality. Plus the failed Cash for Clunkers program definitely didn't help. A lot of cars from this era met their end there.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Head gasket repairs were more $$$ than the book value.
@RoxiSmith
@RoxiSmith Жыл бұрын
Rust and quality
@Sam26LE
@Sam26LE Жыл бұрын
I had a 1993 one ,white with burgundy interior,but the transmission is on steering wheel column as I preferred better !
@stevelang6342
@stevelang6342 Жыл бұрын
To give everyone here a frame of reference, this Pontiac Grand Prix STE had an MSRP that was comparable to the Toyota Celica All-Trac that was also brand new for that model year. To compare the Celica to this Grand Prix in automotive performance and long-term quality is about as clearcut as comparing the military strength of NATO versus the island fortifications of Crete.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Not many of those celicas left unfortunately. Probably just as rare as the pontias
@christopherlaflam6383
@christopherlaflam6383 Жыл бұрын
These cars had so much character!
@ericbritton9346
@ericbritton9346 11 ай бұрын
Put in a cold air intake on top of the 3.1L turbocharged intercooler and it'll add 15 more HP with a total of 225, up there with the Ford Taurus SHO. I'll take it along with the outgoing 1990 Pontiac 6000 STE with that same engine layout and AWD. Pontiac went hard on this one back then.
@pmafterdark
@pmafterdark Жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Pontiac.
@RM.....
@RM..... Жыл бұрын
My parents had a 90 Grand Prix Se 2 door with the 3.1. Was a great car
@lawrencelenerd3988
@lawrencelenerd3988 Жыл бұрын
Same chunk o sheeite as cutlass supreme. Good seats though. World class seats.
@user-cj4sm8hv9y
@user-cj4sm8hv9y Жыл бұрын
Sedan With Stamina
@staticbeans
@staticbeans Жыл бұрын
Boat with lag
@damonbanks9409
@damonbanks9409 Жыл бұрын
Them big buttons on a pontiacs were so cool.
@tjackson686
@tjackson686 Жыл бұрын
I wanted one of these when I was a kid 😂
@jonathankleinow2073
@jonathankleinow2073 Жыл бұрын
205 hp and 220 lb ft of torque to get a 9.0 sec 0-60? That's impressively terrible. I thought the steering wheel buttons were incredibly cool as a kid, though. Just make sure you lock your doors when you're driving - it might be the only thing that stops the door from opening in a crash and tossing you into the road with those door-mounted seat belts.
@HamsterWheelGaming
@HamsterWheelGaming Жыл бұрын
Probably the auto tranny that was awful, I have no doubt thinking it would be low 8 or high 7 to 60 with a proper 5 speed manual
@joshriver75
@joshriver75 Жыл бұрын
locking your doors would not prevent your doors from "popping open" in a crash if they were going to. That's the whole purpose of the double latch. It is very unlikely to happen even in the most severe crashes
@damontroch4765
@damontroch4765 Жыл бұрын
Thise 3.1 Turbo were junk. Everyone goes nuts over them because they were rare. Well they were rare because they were shit. they are hardly faster than the base V6.
@thebonefish
@thebonefish Жыл бұрын
A turd boat.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 Жыл бұрын
It weighed about 3600 lbs so this was porky back in the day. Combined with the 4 speed auto and the vast power variances of that primitive forced induction system I would say it is fairly accurate.
@minipandora22
@minipandora22 Жыл бұрын
They are bringing back the “full width light bar” , it’s on the new Ford Escape and VW Atlas 😂
@davidlittle4971
@davidlittle4971 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted one if these ,just like a Bonneville SSE♥️♥️♥️♥️
@khalifgreen581
@khalifgreen581 Жыл бұрын
I had the 3.1 v6 in my 92 lumina. Great engine
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 10 ай бұрын
The 3.1 v6 is pretty much trash, this was the turbo, which dramatically increased performance over the very slow and rough base 3.1
@jeremyb4493
@jeremyb4493 5 ай бұрын
​@@rodmunch69 family members had a lumina and corsica with the 3.1. For the time they were punchy and smooth engines and the transmission shifted great
@rodmunch69
@rodmunch69 5 ай бұрын
@@jeremyb4493 I test drove a 3.1 back in the day, and having come from owning a bunch of V8's, I was really unimpressed. So I think it just depends on your expectations. Even a mid-80s V8 starved of power by government regulations still had a lot of toque and smoothness - so going from that to driving one of these, it was quite the drop off. However, if it's all you knew, or you were coming from earlier 1980s 6-cylinders, or heaven forbid 4-cycyliners, then yeah, this might seem quite nice and peppy compared to them. However, the difference between this and the turbo is huge.
@mattwolf7698
@mattwolf7698 Жыл бұрын
4:35 I was confused when he said satellite radio for a second until I realized he was referring to the radio controls on the wheel.
@MrFister84
@MrFister84 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this car shares it's body frame or most of it with the VN/VP Commodores in Australia.
@alphonso136
@alphonso136 6 ай бұрын
the ford SHO cam with a Yamaha built v6 with no rev limiter which made them go boom.i replace 2 in 1 sho
@chickenjo23
@chickenjo23 9 ай бұрын
The engine that replaced the 3.1 was the 3.8 bulletproof engine.
@Vekurus
@Vekurus Жыл бұрын
I never knew the STE 4dr could be equipped with the Turbo
@TheRamGuy
@TheRamGuy Жыл бұрын
Man that SHO was the car to have
@jasonw8124
@jasonw8124 Жыл бұрын
Interesting performance numbers, 2 years later my 1992 Acura Vigor with a 2.5 5 cylinder did the exact same times at a track in AZ. That's with 0.6 less liters and no turbo.
@moejr1974
@moejr1974 Жыл бұрын
These are mush faster than these times. This was a brand new engine on a flat footed launch. Bring the rpm up against the brakes and use a drag strip launch and you'd lop a second or more off like they did with the coupe they tested earlier.
@wingsley
@wingsley Жыл бұрын
Having a hard time seeing this car as progress, even in an early-1990s context. GM and other US automakers threw billions into their front-wheel-drive "downsizing" projects, converting most of their fleet away from larger cars and rear-wheel-drive. This is the best they could do? Those video clips of the slalom look scary. And this is only a couple of years after the demise of the Buick Grand National, whose turbo 3.8-liter V6 nearly brought the house down. In the late 1980s, Pontiac had a successful stab at the so-called Euro Sport Sedan market with the better-than-average 6000 STE, which came in front- and all-wheel-drive. But the lackluster W-body cars were a minivan full of "meh", even by that day's standards. DEspite Mr. Davis' optimistic narration, the visuals tell the real story.
@PriestsandParamedics
@PriestsandParamedics Жыл бұрын
Only GM could put a turbo on a V6 and still only get 200hp and 9 second 0-60 lol
@AlphanumericCharacters
@AlphanumericCharacters Жыл бұрын
They picked up 60 hp over the NA version. The twin turbo 300zx that year had 300 hp with DOHC and two turbos. Seems pretty reasonable amount of power for the time.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee Жыл бұрын
Wonder if they didn't put an intercooler on the turbo system.
@Lucille69caddy
@Lucille69caddy Жыл бұрын
You must be a foreign car fanboy Millenial. You conveniently left out the fact the testers got a full second quicker times in a prior test when it was 20 degrees cooler temps.
@jiggity76
@jiggity76 Жыл бұрын
@@bmstylee Yes.
@ProbeGT2
@ProbeGT2 Жыл бұрын
​@@AlphanumericCharactersthat same nissan engine made more power than the 3.1 turbo without a turbo and intercooler :)
@RussellStovetop386
@RussellStovetop386 10 ай бұрын
I had an '02 gt and wish i still had it. Sold it in 2014.
@wavelength1970
@wavelength1970 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea a turbo 3.1 existed. This motor should have gone into the Beretta
@jehb8945
@jehb8945 Жыл бұрын
What's sad is that a few years later you would have GM's 3800 series 2 V6 which matches the power of this complex turbocharged 3.1. and we're not just talking horsepower hear the 3800 makes the same 225 in torque
@aaron7671
@aaron7671 6 ай бұрын
The 3100 is Not really a complex motor though. Just a pushrod v6 with a turbo 😂
@idontlikecops1
@idontlikecops1 11 күн бұрын
I dated a girl in my junior year of high school who had THIS car. Thing was a tank. Her grandpa bought it new
@scootscoot97warlock90
@scootscoot97warlock90 Жыл бұрын
This car nor most american cars couldnt rival the Hondas,Toyotas, Nissans & Mazdas for fuel economy & stylish & interior quality.
@CRAPO2011
@CRAPO2011 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if anyone has done an LS4 fwd v8 swap or 3800 s/c into one these
@janedonna5202
@janedonna5202 Жыл бұрын
In the 90s Pontiac was the 'fun' domestic brand albeit a little trailer park. Was always a click over Chevrolet, especially the 80s Grand Am coupe. Olds & Buick had good vibes, too, but Honda gave more for less money. Pontiac was always better than Ford and Dodge, tho
@Miami543210
@Miami543210 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t you LOVE to see this cars history? This exact car! Who ended up owning it? What kind of life did it have. How long did it last? When was its final mile? What happened to it? Is it still around perhaps? Wouldn’t you love to know?
@deanspanos8210
@deanspanos8210 Жыл бұрын
I do not miss my 3 speed.
@gera117
@gera117 Жыл бұрын
Where is the Z24 Cavalier? GM used the 3.1 in a lot of cars at that time
@edwardautrey3671
@edwardautrey3671 Жыл бұрын
In 1992 a Mustang 5.0 5speed LX was around $14 grand on the showroom floor, WTH
@RaymondHaley-lv2mo
@RaymondHaley-lv2mo Ай бұрын
The first 4 dr Grand Prix , which was only the beginning 1997-08 were definitely the best., don't care for the GXPV8 though.
@hottew_twat3963
@hottew_twat3963 5 ай бұрын
the 3800 in the grand sport coupe was the best of this mix and id take that over a 3.1 turbo
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын
....i missed the "sharp handling" part of the video. :)
@hanablemoore8239
@hanablemoore8239 17 күн бұрын
Speedvision nostalgia
@cobracharmer6178
@cobracharmer6178 Жыл бұрын
The Pontiac looks like it was designed at the gulags in Siberia. And the front was inspired by the Mercury Sable. It doesn’t even come close to the Ford Taurus in looks. The Taurus alone was in production from 1986-2019. The Pontiac division went belly up in 2010.
@danmccarthy4700
@danmccarthy4700 Жыл бұрын
LOL... do you even know what a Russian car looks like bruh??
@curenzy
@curenzy Жыл бұрын
So many buttons wow lol 😂 in the interior
@coletrickle-km7cl
@coletrickle-km7cl Жыл бұрын
What the hell where they thinking putting the seat belt mounts ON THE DOOR?? You get hit hard enough in the drivers door that belt is gonna go slack on you when you need it to be strapped to you tight. It does make it interesting to get in the car and not hafta put the belt on. But not trustworthy in door impact crashes. The steering wheel buttons where kind of ahead of the time. I remember messing with them working at a pontiac dealer.
@yyeezyy630
@yyeezyy630 10 ай бұрын
It was replaced with a 3.8 supercharged that was faster then a 2.3 i4 in the grand am instead of slower… so it definitely made it better
@m.stewart7208
@m.stewart7208 Жыл бұрын
If I won the lottery this is the car I'd search out to get.
@Spike-ej4st
@Spike-ej4st 4 ай бұрын
Lovely nails ma'am.
@Andyface79
@Andyface79 Жыл бұрын
Pontiac, the official GM brand of plastic cladding.
@theKevronHarris
@theKevronHarris Жыл бұрын
Happy mother's day to all mothers!!!
@redneon06
@redneon06 Жыл бұрын
It was the Saturn SL
@benscampers1818
@benscampers1818 Жыл бұрын
"Reliable 3.1 V6" 😂😂😂
@bill4632
@bill4632 Жыл бұрын
My old girlfriend had the 3.1 in her Chevy Corisca. She had 240k miles on it before it died. So I say not too bad. Lol.
@AlphanumericCharacters
@AlphanumericCharacters Жыл бұрын
Wow! Of all the ignorant comments you see on KZfaq this is a noteworthy one. The 3100 was one of the best engines ever made.
@aaron7671
@aaron7671 6 ай бұрын
Just as good as the 3800…
@cgatito3528
@cgatito3528 4 ай бұрын
$24,000 in 1990 is equivalent to $57k adjusted for inflation in 2024. Wow!
@SkaBob
@SkaBob Жыл бұрын
They were a good looking car in the day but the buttons and knobs tended to break or fall off. The performance though, pretty sure a prius or mini van could be it now.
@baronvonjo1929
@baronvonjo1929 Жыл бұрын
I can see being a 2001 baby i didnt miss much. So many 90s cars look so awful. Few aged well. But my 4Runner did! Older than me at 24 years old.
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