Indeed!

Not many parents let their children do what they want just because "hey i born into this world first and i have the experience of life hence my decision is always right" that type of mentality. And when the parents realize it, sometimes it's too late

A lot of us kids don't realize how much some parents do until we get into adulthood. I'm blessed to have such parents and only found out that they have debts here and there and a lot of it was for my education. I've been giving a portion of my salary consistently for 12 years now and you know where all that money went? Straight into a bank account my mom opened under my name. The only way I can actually give back is to buy stuff myself and hand it to her cause she would never take cash from me.

@@kevinlee6398 the amount of control parents have over thier children even at oldwr ages such as 13 and above is icredibly stupid to me, i get you have to raise your child and all but if your parent decides so you basically get to have no free will.

@@kevinlee6398 That hit too close to home, I am watching this wholesome shit to recover from my depressive episode not to suddenly realise why I am miserable lol

I mean, Mouse did Opera singing or was training in it before her illness kicked in. So they were probably already pretty happy she was still able to be an Entertainer. Earning as much as she does for them was probably a true Outta-Left- Field for them.

@@ruga-ventoj what is her illness

@@_.359 tsundere

​@@_.359 Something about her having a very weak immune system I THINK but don't quote me on that.

@@_.359 Common Variable Immunodeficiency, a kind of Primary Immunodeficiency; I was surprised when I found out because I have it as well

They really do.

Bro you dont care go back to simping over hololive feet or whatever you do all day . Also get a job

100%

True!

Imagine their surprise/shock/happiness when Mouse paid off their house. :D

Yeah, our pride never let us ask for help, does it? My mother Is the oldest of 11 siblings and she basically raised them all, to the point that one of my aunts actually believed that she was her mom, not her sister, and my grandparents were always working, my grandfather literally worked until the day he died (suffered a stroke got hospitalized, and never waked up) and my grandmother only stopped working when one of her fingers literally fell out, and she had to be hospitalized for her rampaging diabetes, and even then she wouldn't ask my mother for help. Now my mother doesn't want to retire, she just wants to keep doing her life, even in her nineties, and God forgive if she ever ask me for money.

I'm pretty sure that's a Spanish Colony thing. Some filipinos do be like that too.

We latinos are too prideful to ask for money, even I as a second generation Cuban-american suffer from that pride lot, it's something I picked up from my mom. She was strong and proud, and even when she was hospitalized for a back injury and 3 strokes, she didn't want us helping her, we had to forcibly sit her down and tell her to rest, even till the moment she died she stayed on her feet keeping busy and never asking anyone for anything

Yeah it's kind of an issue I'm ashamed of trying to get over. At least back then I had the excuse of it would be put on weed and little ceasers pizza but now I don't have much reason to say no when people offer me money and I fucking hate it.

My dad sent 4 kids to college on a single income. Impossible today, but still pretty damn hard in the late 80s to early 2000s. He gave me a small loan to make repairs when I bought my house. When he retired he asked me help with his 401k and I found out there was virtually nothing in it because he had been borrowing against it to take care of me and my siblings. After I paid back the loan he gave me, I just kept sending him the same amount I had been every month. He deserves to enjoy his retirement, God knows he's earned it. I'm blessed to have him as a father and I'm blessed that I have the means to give something back for all he's given me.

yep, both parents try to do their best of the best.

It's sad that Mouse's mom said she doesn't deserve the nice things Mouse did for her. Is the "I don't deserve this" thing part of Hispanic culture, too? Bc that's tragic if so. All parents deserve nice things, support and love.

@@morganqorishchi8181 As a Hispanic myself I haven’t experienced with my parents that type of mentality, mine are like: “I did a lot for you so do your best and pays us off what we deserve” I guess it can happen when as their child you do what they are supposed to be in charge of. Since my parents give a lot to me I know I am supposed to help them out.

@@morganqorishchi8181 I'm from Latin America too, and I would say that the "I don't deserve this" and the "wanting to solve all the issues by yourself" mentalities are very real. It comes from a lot of people being poor and having big family households with many children, grand parents, aunts/uncles, etc. under the same roof. There is a lot of insecurity, but also a lot of pride in being able to make your family happy. Of course, this doesn't apply to everybody. But yeah, I just hope for the day to come, when Latin America won't be dragged through the mud anymore and that the governments become stable enough someday.

@@morganqorishchi8181 I don't want to generalice, but as a puertorrican I can relate to this with my mother and other mothers I've known over the years. My mom is also is how Mouse described her mom about not asking for help even if she is suffering. Even if she is behind for the bills and her health, she gives everything for us her children but barely takes care of herself. I am the luckiest child to have her as my mother in my eyes yet in her eyes she hasn't done enough for us. And it's always a constant fight to have her see how great she is and so that she can take more time for herself.

It’s a goal for me. I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to fully, but I want to help

I wish I could pay off my own. 😔

Amen to that. I hope I can do that someday.

Truly, mousey has pure gigachad energy, actual anime protag

When she did endurance stream, must be something big will come and it pays well.

This is a very orphan crushing machine kind of story. Very wholesome that it isn't crushing Mousey, but why is there an orphan crushing machine?

Yeah, capitalism is an awful monster. Direct action now.

@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick The healthcare system in the U.S. is not capitalism. It's corruption. I'd rather blame the evil people in charge and not an intangible economic ideology.

@@AsapCodeine It's always both. But most of all the US health care system developed the way it did because "pro capitalism" politicians decried any attempts to make it fairer for everyone as "socialism". Back when Obama ran on the Affordable Care Act, it was considered "political suicide" in the Democratic Party. Fortunately the debate has now moved on to single-payer health care.

I do not understand people who can see the atrocities of those suffering in a "first-world" nation and still be against universal healthcare. As you said nobody should be driven into the mud by the costs of life.

Yep, the trifecta og vtubers that led to Vtuber renaissance of 2019 and up are Mousey (as an active streamer because she can spend all her time streaming), Kizuna Ai (the meme source for normies that led many to the rabbit hole) and Senzawa (the underground meme source for you know who and the inventor of uwu language, literally. Now she goes with another name)

I'd love to do this but can't with this laptop.

@@faizalf119 poor Senzawa, just disappeared one day and never returned. On a totally different note, there's this really funny shark vtuber I saw once. Guba? Guwa? Something like that. Also, Kizuna Ai is basically the progenitor of all of them, but I would potentially put Melody in front of Mousey, as someone who really put the idea of a vtuber-style persona out there (she got a lot of attention originally for the CB stuff), at least on the American side. And we have to remember, we're looking at this from an American perspective and vtubing generally grew out of Japan. Also, if we're going by the VERY FIRST, that would be Ami Yamato (2011). Also, Kaguya Luna and Mirai Akari would be the two that came after Kizuna, so they would be considered the "first three" (even though even by the modern standards they weren't the first, just the first to popularize it). It's really hard to give an official "top/first" ranking other than Kizuna Ai, honestly. After her it's just personal taste.

@@RabidDogma Mel helped mouse grow a lot as if you watched her streams on twitch at her start she would raid mouse (who at that time had under 300 subs) it was funny how fast she grew to be even bigger than Mel

Im pretty sure it was Nux who really got her the attention she has today It's a real shame about what happened

this reminds me of the plot of (many) a chinese novel i've read..

awww no this thought makes me sad for the sister and the other gift tho 😭 I am sure Ironmom loves all the gifts she gets from her children bc they are given with love mhm. Don't make me sad for smolgift-chan, she's doing her best!

@@avlinrbdig5715 Yeah for some reason almost all chinese scenarios i've read are like that, always poor and then the son gets rich (combined with an "original" twist for the rest of the story)

@@mintoc8853 i admit to still reading it though..

@@avlinrbdig5715 Haha I used to as well, but now that I've found better ones/less time I just abandon them for now

Im sure if youtube didnt make him sign an NDA he would have disclosed how much his youtube contract is worth.

Lud is overwhelmingly charismatic, and with that comes the ability to casually talk about anything and everything while knowing when it's appropriate.

@@supanjibobu372 what? He's said how much they bought him for and he's shown his revenue several times already

Yeah I recently started watching ludwig. Seems like a good dude, and he's pretty charismatic. I can actually watch him for an hour without getting annoyed lol. Some streamers are either too over the top for me or flat out boring. Ludwig is at just the right level for me

@@mycookiehasnoname i did a quick search before i wrote that comment but all i found was the "rumors" that his contract was 30 mil. I dont watch him that much anymore but do you have a clip of him explicitly saying how much yt bought him for?

"mimimi, how dare someone do something they like and looooots of people evidently enjoy? and how DARE they get paid to do it? they should have a shit job they hate and only put up with because living costs money, like me!"... thats the mindset you get? i dont. im 39 and an ugly dude. if i was a cute young woman today, you bet your ass i would stream, vtube AND have an onlyfans with softcore stuff (yeah lumping in pretty much all the "bad things" there.). not to speak of all the patreon-like sites out there. What i do get is if people dont enjoy watching the content and dont understand the appeal themselves. hating on the creators? no, i dont get that.

@@frankgelder8519 Jesus Christ, chill

I’ll never get people being against content creators making lots of money. It’s basically like celebrities of previous eras except they have a much more direct line of communication with their fans and there’s very few middle men taking their cut (obviously Twitch and KZfaq get some, but that’s tiny compared to how much music and movie execs would take from their talent).

@@ZebraGER i am "chill". replying with a negative opinion doesnt equal attacking someone or being angry. the commenter i replied to is absolutely entitled to their opinion. im not saying " no, youre not allowed to tolerate jealous people!" or something. i shared my opinion and point of view. so... you "chill", with your " being shocked at a rando speaking his mind" thing. have a nice day, though. i hope cool things happen for you.

@@shyguypro9876 pretty much, yep.

sorry, but by the definition she's not, selfmade implies someone who didn't have any help in achiveing the goal, which can't be said about any streamer as they really primarly on donations, in other words help, what you can take out of this, I guess, is: there is no Ironmouse without the Precious Family

@@mikoajpietrych6168 no, it's really not. Obviously she achieved this due to outside support, as does everybody, because one does not simply create money out of thin air. Every person replies on receiving money from others in exchange for something. Subs and donations are a way of people paying a creator, like any artist or entertainer. But she managed to draw the people in and be precious enough to make them want to support her monetarily. And it's a fact that in contrast to all those supposed Selfmade millionaires, she didn't start out rich, her family didn't have access to every opportunity or was able to give her the best start. That alone makes such a huge difference. To start from nothing, carry on and draw in so many people is a huge achievement

@@alucard303 well, yes and no, in case of streamers, you provide service for free hoping people will donate out of good will, there is no real exchange of goods, like in any other transaction, on top of that Mousy, like it or not did play the card of person in need, which earned her some income simply out of kindness, on the same principle as begging, just with larger audience, for reasons like this and many others, I was convinced by Shwarzenegger statement that there is no real selfmade people of success

@@mikoajpietrych6168 People are paying to watch her and her service. That's self made. They are paying for a product. Just in this case it's entertainment. Otherwise no one self made 🗿 because they paying you for what you sell. You no longer self made. Help is when you have support from the start from someone who invests your business for a profitable return

@@mikoajpietrych6168 and Bill Gates wouldn't have shit if people didn't buy his software. No one just alchemys a mill out of thin air.

Imagine if people really will follow her advice😐 UPD: She'll literally lose her only job

America must be a dystopia then

Even if we did I doubt they would expand it to U.S. territories like Puerto Rico

How about you go look at the countries that _do_ have public healthcare and then try to tell me how much better they have it? I have talked with people from around the world and public healthcare is not what it’s cracked up to be. Especially when your taxes roll around. I wish people would engage their brains and realize that relying on your government for everything rarely pays off in the end.

@@OneBiasedOpinion ... Dude, you pay nearly half your salary in health insurance. Don't try lecturing others about their taxes. And on top of that you never know how much a doctor visit might cost. Another thing: relying on your employer for everything is even worse than relying on your government.

@@OneBiasedOpinion It's not relying on everything, is just basic shit that humans need, why don't you look at actually not corrupt countries that have universal healthcare like the nordic ones? they have higher taxes than the US, yet they are so few compared to the US that in reality they end up paying less, and their lifestyle is way higher as well. The US is already spending 800 billion yearly on military instead of something useful like basic healthcare. The average american spends $12000 yearly on healthcare, which is an absolutely INSANE amount, when people would rather die on the street than being taken by an ambulance because they can't afford the price then you have a real problem with your system.

She had her eye on another one, few days ago. Last I heard they were getting a house inspector on that one as well. It didn't sound like they were as far along in the process of buying before doing so, understandably. Don't know if anything's happened since

Or how fucked up America is that you need to pay for your medical shit that you need to survive...

@@Erideah fair

I think there was a 2nd one that fell through because of standing water (or was that the first one) It sounds like they've found a third option that they've brought and the move is happening August.

I think it's safe to assume it's almost every kids dream to either buy or pay off their parents house

I wasn't able to buy them a big thing nor anything, but the first thing I started doing was pay their credit card debts that they've accumulated while I was studying.

@@MJCKCA Good on you! As soon as my career takes off and I start winning enough money I plan on sending my mom off on that dream trip to Europe she's had it her mind ever since I can remember 😀

Living in an ancestral home wouldn’t have any leases connected to it (I think?) but my first thought when I imagined myself earning money is to work towards paying the rough amount spent on my education.

If they raised their kids w love and understanding then yes

"My house, my rules, mom"

She would never, nor the mouse nor her mother

Both are to sweet

nah that would never happen. as funny as that would be but that's a serious matter if it did happen but it's different for us.

GO TO YOUR ROOM MOM!!

Indeed, she is enduring one of the most dangerous health conditions a person can be living with, and was able to go from a person who can hardly do anything, to one of the biggest streamers on Twitch, and has given so much to her parents in return for them taking care of her.

A lot of popular streamers are actually very talented and deserve to be well off.

@@pillowcaseee Well off is different from a millionaire. I don't really resent them for being obscenely rich (they got lucky, good for them), but it's hurtful to see how they waste money sometimes...

@@miszamojcyszschmidt1746 Waste money? I cant think of any examples... maybe I just watch different streamers.

And Gawr Gura too.

It would be a disservice to Mouse to call it gods payback considering it was her who put in all the work. If she had won the lottery, then I guess we could call it gods payback. But I agree with what you are trying to say.

@@ruud9761 she is catholic so i am guessing she thanks god for her success. Just like the boxer who trained for 10 weeks and gets punched in the face thanks god for winning

@@luminoussun I thank God for my meager strength all the time personally and even more when I get more.

@@luminoussun So your own effort is never to be recognized for your succes? That's just sad.

@@mintoc8853 for those of us who believe, God is what gives us the strength to persevere when things get rough. So we tend to thank God for that strength.

Whoa decades? How old do you think Mouse is? Lol.

@@Daosguard more than twenty

@@Daosguard clueless

@@minari3462 Why are you clueless? You should work on that.

I don't know much about Ironmouse but what medical problem she have?

I get that feels the same way at times

Your English is good! If you hadn’t said anything I wouldn’t have known it wasn’t your first language

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Your English is great! It reads naturally, at least for me. I'm american and english is my mother tongue and i know first hand how difficult our language can be, so thank you for taking the time to learn it so well! For reference, "then" is for timing, "than" is for comparison. But no worries, a lot of people who only speak english use the wrong form a lot, too lol

That doesn't work with latin and Asian families. You could be a multimillionaire and you'll still respect your elders.

@@nujevad28 Or they’ll make you respect them..

@@nujevad28 you can respect your elders, and still insert dominance by buying the house.

That is a very agreeable opinion and all but why is there a horizontal scroll bar below your comment?

@@hakaidemati4417 i notice that too in another stream. Either youtube developer doing mess with textbox script or it's some kind of feature (it's ugly though).

I don't really want to inquire another person private... but atleast tell me the reason why they are adopted in the first place? Or did u'r family picked them up by mistake from industrial waste?

@@kirshi8492 don't worry about it. it's not like i give two shits about those 2 anyway. not anymore anyway. their other brother and sister however are good people. we adopted them cause my mother firstly always wanted more kids than what she was able to have. she's a very loving person but, my little sister almost killed her due to complications when she was born, so they had to basically make it so she couldn't have kids anymore to save her life. so she turned to adoption later on and we found these four kids who were, basically coming from a situation like you described in terms of how they're situation was. it wasn't a literal actual dump site, but their circumstances might as well have been given how fucked up their past was. for a good long time things were good, but eventually the one started stealing, lying, saying stuff about us that wasn't true to people around town trying to destroy our reputation, and eventually even got a girl knocked up before eventually abandoning her too. to this day he blames everything on us...despite us taking him to places like China, Disney World, Cruises, Quebec etc. getting him into a good private school, i put myself in danger of getting arrested for him when a kid with a real shady reputation wanted to fight him and i stood up for him telling him to back off unless he wanted to face me. i was still an adult at the time and still had many years of martial arts training at the time. but even still, that all meant nothing to him. we're still the bad guys. as for the other one, he's pretty much the same. a liar and a thief. he stole 4k from my grandfather who's health is failing him slowly but surely, again blames everything on us despite EVERYTHING we got on him for was because of his own fault, and apparently when my mom phoned him to tell him about me breaking my jaw and getting 9 stitches after a siezure i had he said "call me when it's something important". sorry that turned into a bit of a novel.

@@anime4life209 There is now a special place in Hell dedicated for those two whom I don't even believe I can refer to as human.

and ludgwing and agreed they deserve it

Well she also spends money on herself and "meaningless bullshit" like plushies and vtuber models. And it's not like she can drive a Lamborghini anyway.

Well what's convenient about the amount money she's got is she can just do both, which she does. So kind of a moot praise.

you know how many long furbies she has?

@@Zanpaa vtuber models are not meaningless if its literally part of her job

Good on you Koe, your a true Chad, and I'm Shure mouse respects you as a fellow streamer, and person that understands Puerto Rican culture. 👍🤗🙇

Financial education doesnt exist anywhere in the world and that is only to serve the rich.

@@DoughnutDragon It's called a lack of perspective and a lack of education on investing. Fortunately, I think Mousey is smart enough to know what to do. Also, I may be misremembering, but I think her sister is in a financial job of some sort? So she would definitely know what to tell Mousey as far as investing.

@@635574 Not really, where I live it's part of the education as the state needs to pay for everyone of they fall into poverty.

Most of these streamers have accountants because doing the taxes yourself is a fucking nightmare and hiring someone who knows all the ins and outs actually saves you a lot of money in the long run.

80% of athletes going broke after retirement is a racist dogwhistle due to the overwhelming majority of retiring athletes being black. Please edit your comment.

Its a latino/hispanic thing we make do with what we have and count them as blessings.

Mousey didn't need to be isolated as much before covid came about, as I understand it. She also says her bedroom doesn't have windows, so yeah it's probably not the nicest house.

@@Zanpaa i mean she still didnt go out really much though even before. and shes been bed ridden quite a lot over the time she started streaming and i doubt the bedridden part started because of covid

@@Zanpaa She was bedridden long before covid and her condition made her isolated since interacting with people and being outside was a risk to her because of her condition so her isolation isn't much by choice per say but circumstantial even before the blow up she wasn't streaming at a desk or anything just in her bed while strapped up to a machine.

@@Zanpaa Her current bedroom was the 'dads room' before, but is bigger than her previous one (which had windows)

It probably more less why Ironmom is confused her character is Satan.

@@arqueiroXD Creative difference once again?

Cash is better, keeps the banks and the IRS out your business. The more you know 😉 until they deposit it that is if they did.

@@Nasty_J Gifts don't count as taxable income unless it's over $15k. Not that fucking with the IRS is ever a good idea anyway....

@@BrandonHeat243 You are correct, but sometimes by banking procedures they have to send that type of deposit information to the IRS and they will investigate it lol. The gifter has to file a an IRS tax return form for the next year. If you're rich and the funds are legit there is no worries on gifting👍

Handing someone a check isn't as badass as a massive stack of cash