Hey just to confirm this was done with an experienced Rokoko operator. Smart Suit 2 tests will be next week.

As rokkoko suit1 user, I confirm to have received very similar results as in video above (with dedicated and same as recommended from Rokoko) on a tennis court (no sources of magnetic interference). Rokoko require a lot of cleanup and the results are not good enough.

​@@anthonyganjou2485 No doubts in the experience of you mocap operator, but something definitely wrong with your Rokoko results. It is unusable at all in your case. I have V1 suit and even if it has some small glitches with the legs sometimes (which should be better in V2 as they promise), it produces MUCH better and reliable results than in your example. Your mocap data from rokoko is simply bad. Idk why this happened, but this is definitely not representative at all, as Sam said above. Hope Rokoko used dedicated wifi router (better 5Ghz), and Move AI uses it's own router in different bandwith. Also, check if there's nothing metal/magnetic in the area of mocap which can interfere. Smartsuit is pretty sensitive to that. I see that Move AI (as well as other vision based systems like ipiSoft) can produce more interesting and quality results if you have enough space for that, but it would be much more informative and fair for potential customers to see both systems at their max quality. Right now what was captured with the Rokoko can't be used in the comparison. If their suit really produced such a poor quality of mocap, their product would not exist at all.

@@anthonyganjou2485 Hello, did you perform that test and if so, where can we view the results?

never owned rokoko mate sorry

Xsens comparisons out Monday!

@@anthonyganjou2485 Great! Are you part of Move?

Yes I’m the Co founder AMA

@@anthonyganjou2485 Amazing product! Looking forward to Monday!!

@@anthonyganjou2485 I've actually got a ton of Q's. I'm deep in the middle of a virtual production project and was very close to upgrading my XSens, but this could potentially change my plans. Is there a way to get in touch via email?

ive used gopros with it on the channel go check it out

@@Jsfilmz can you use an android yet?

this is v1 though wait for v2 maybe its better

@@Jsfilmz fair point

Based on watching a Rokoko demo this week, I think these results are not filtered using their studio software, which seems to fix a lot of the leg problems. It's also not really a fair comparison to compare brand new technology to 5 year old technology.

@@hyperbolicfilms yeah because this comparison was done by MoveAI themselves. Not exactly an unbiased test

this one is cloud. i think realtime is coming though

not live not yet but eventually im sure it will come *wink*

@@Jsfilmz So how can be the workaround.. I mean lets say I made a mocap and I wanna attach my face capture to it.. Is it possible or no.? lets say I use the livelink face capture of UE.. could be.?

yeah 365 for the year i think

​@@ukmonk$365 at $1/day but with a fair usage policy of 30 minutes a month. Which feels kindah low to me. Mocap is a fairly lumpy exercise. Gonnah record and capture a lot of video and keep doing it until you know you nailed the motion both from a performance and a resulting mocap pov. 30 minutes a month doesn't feel like it will be enough for such an endeavour. After 30 mins you're into their overage charges.

they are pretty close imo

Same here. That's the issue. Still no clue when this thing will be public

Exactly, at least tell us a projected product release date and perhaps a price point. It's frustrating to not have access to it.

Registered and have been waiting a while too. Would be good to at least get an update.

Would love to get access myself, also waiting

Hi all appreciate there is massive frustration we haven’t released yet public launch is coming very soon as is pricing that makes it accessible to everyone

yes i use both

how?

yes iphones its calibrated to iphones

@@Jsfilmz So no Ipad... man Im not buying a iphone just for this. Wait just heard that stuff about a host? What do you mean by that?

@@no_player_commentary I'm in the same idea, but i find out that this software still not open to public yet.... hope that launch soon!!!!

they are doing the version 2 next week i think. here is the entire process on move ai kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nZZ6eNabpprWoYU.html

We are testing against the smart suit 2 next week

What's makes PlayStation eye cameras so special? I have seen people talking about ps3 eyes .

We could support them but the quality won’t be anywhere near as good

@@MODEST500 Well, it was super cheap a while back ($5 per camera) and was used for ipisoft - a markless motion capture software.

@@anthonyganjou2485 Oh hey, you're the real deal. Even with 8? That's a shame.

It’s more about technical time to onboard the cameras. I’ll speak to the tech team to see when/if we can get it on the road map

not yet but i was told eventually it will

cool man tbh i cant take any extra work my fulltime job keeping me busy

@@Jsfilmz No, no extra job, sorry my english!!!! What i mean, is like, for exemplo, u have some video that show MOVE AI live link with unreal? Just it kkkkk

I Saw that this app still not open to public???

@@DouglasBenvenuti yea not yet and no livestream yet only offline import

@@Jsfilmz some idea about when is open?

Hey Chris it is initially android will be next year. The rationale is that you can get a device anywhere on earth and as we support down to the 8 they become pretty cheap as well. The device also has functionality that optimises how you can connect the devices to create the rig, shoot and upload.

@@anthonyganjou2485 understandable, Apple has been pushing the facial tracking and better front cameras for the purposes for the new fields. Android is lagging in AR space for the same technologies now.

Ive been an android fan for a loooong time and its sad to say they are slacking

lol yea alot i dressed up as rufio one halloween

@@Jsfilmz YES, the world needed it 🌍😂 Awesome man!

Roko is the motion capture suit not Rokoko Ai

its still in beta mate im beta testing it for them

@@Jsfilmz we need this , suits cost arm and leg to get them , and this technology still not released I hope soon

im not sure i just know its 11 and up since its a tight space

@@Jsfilmz thanks =)

accurig is a rigging tool not mocap though

idk its free tiill march now i thtink

@@Jsfilmz Cool... is limited to who can apply? ...or is it open to all... apologies if you've already addressed this! You're just the who's who on mocap and Unreal, bro!!

He compares phone cameras vs 2k$ mocap suit

hahahaha man i tried to warn people yo

@@Jsfilmz the gloves do pretty good.

im giving them price suggestions well see

@@Jsfilmz Super. I hope they listen to your suggestions. Am sure you have a good grasp of what prices would be popular.

Pricing will make it accessible to everyone :)