BRILLIANT

I agree with you. The stupid principle blew what Max did out of proportion and he AND Pete put thoughts in Goofy's head! They basically called Max a bad kid just because he's (checks notes) acting like teenage boy and trying to impress a girl like ANY teenage boy?!

​@@elizabethescalante8114Funny enough though it's still somewhat realistic. Growing up I myself had an ableist teacher that would ignore IEPs and actively set kids up for failure. She would spit all kinds of half truths and made up nonsense to the principal and my parents to murder my grade and get me detentions and have me do summer school. With my parents in particular believing every word until several years later. Some teachers genuinely see anything outside the accepted norm or anything but blind obedience as a terrible thing that must be stamped out.

@@kaylawoodbury2308 I'm sorry you had to go through that. Did your parents ever apologize to you for not believing you?

@@elizabethescalante8114 My dad at least has in my adult years. My mom no, using this movie as a reference I guess you could say my mom is more of a Pete and my dad is more of a Goofy. Mom's more narcissistic and authoritarian and dad really cared but was still stuck on this idea that the adult in the situation is more trustworthy than the kid.

Right? 😂

That's the power of good writers and storytellers!

It's because you don't see it coming. Depth is woven into to the...well, Goofyness

@@CinemaTherapyShow In all honesty, Goofy (and Max) handles the Parent/Son relationship scenario a lot better than most films did. Heck, I’d rather watch this movie than dealing with Turning Red, because the worst thing to coming out of Mei being in the right would be her twerking her butt in rebellion against her own mother… not even Cinderella, when she had Disney DTV Sequels, would even do that to her stepmother (despite Lady Tremaine being completely in the wrong for abusing Ella), because I bet it would only escalade the problem in “A Twist in Time”, and have her executed if she were to do that. Sometimes, using your words is better than using action, because not everything has to be done by action.

And it's a story revolving around a character named Goofy and his son. The fact that they made a movie where you could actually take Goofy seriously is pretty impressive.

When youre older and you want to send your kid to a possum camp and take him away from his friends and socializing to get chased in the middle of the woods by bigfoot and dragged down a river off a waterfall......im 28 and im still on Max's Side LOL

Precisely, you typically only understand your parents more when you start raising your own children.

What I like about this movie is that you can see both sides no matter how old you are

I fully disagree with this statement because when I was kid watching this movie and now as an adult I empathize with both Goofy and Max but I also see where they’re both wrong: On one hand Max is at points hard on his father and he screws up when he lies to him about the map and when he lies to Roxanne (though to be fair I think Roxanne kinda makes the same mistake as Goofy when she doesn’t fully listen to Max thus making Max lie to her) when he should definitely appreciate his Dad’s love especially when he looks at PJ’s relationship with his Dad, but it’s easy to understand his anger, stubbornness and frustration at the beginning when his father makes him go on this vacation that he was not ready for just when earned the respect of his classmates and had a date with Roxanne and is given NO clear explanation by his Dad why they’re going on this vacation. Goofy on the other hand I totally empathize that he wants to spend quality time with his son and make sure Max is being raised right but the problem is that I don’t think he fully considers Max’s feelings or at least his perspective. For starters he literally only takes the Principle’s word and immediately plans the trip when he really should have been more up front with Max about what happened at school the moment he came home and let Max explain HIS side of the story. Then he takes very toxic advice from Pete which of course only pushes Max away more so he barely gives Max any say in any matter until he makes him navigator and gives him the map, but even when he first finds out about Max changing the map he’s just angry and still doesn’t give Max a chance to explain himself and of course it’s not until they’re stranded in the river do they both finally start talking and listening to each other!

It's not about what he does but about the emotions that drive it. Sure his reaction was not perfect but as a mature adult you can't help but empathize with a dad who desperately wants to connect with his son and ensure he is on the path to success, even if he doesn't quite know how to do that. ​@@rowan1275

That's amazing. I love it.

he sounds like a baller ass dad

Wow. Respect. I want to do that for my kids

GOD that is peak parenting ❤ I'm so glad you had a dad like that.

My philosophy with my kid is: you don't have to tell me everything, but please know that I never want you to feel like you have to *HIDE* something from me. Well, that and "That doesn't make any sense to me; but you are very small, perhaps you're right."

Gets me every single time

I prefer the delivery in the car with the solemn silence after.❤

You know, you got a point lol

Yes!!👏🏼👏🏼😼🎉🎉

I had a rocky relationship with my Dad growing up. Those lines always hit like a truck now.

I never saw it like that😅😅😂😂

And notice how they're both still trying to save eachother from the running rapids, even as they're arguing. Whoever wrote that, bravo.

I never even thought of that

I also love that right after Goofy finally delivers that crucial line about how he just wanted to be part of Max's life the waters calmed.

Oh heavens, but imagine the noise.... "Guh-HYUK!"

Goofy's wife was a babe. She passed on, sadly. it's explained in Goof Troop

@@leighmartin9187 he game her his strongest "Guh-HYUK!" right before she passed, and then stayed loyal to her, thats a good man

Yeah, but who was the mother and where is she??

@@OwlBard she died, we dont know how, but she is dead

Based

Maybe Mickey and Minnie are reproductively challenged or just don't want children, we don't know their story 😂

It's shown that they lived together at least once. Why did they never tie the knot?

A random fact but in the comics, Mickey also had nephews, twins called Morty and Ferdie but they live with their parents and only sometimes visit Mickey.

@@aino-kaisav5504 Finally someone who acknowledges Morty and Ferdie! We got Huey, Duey, and Louie ALL the time, but everyone forget about Mickey's nephews :)

I'm glad I'm not alone with these thoughts. There's certain set of disney movies that outright make me feel like I could crawl out of my skin because of my narcissistic parent. Goofy movie is very high on that list. 😐

I'm so sorry that parents like this ruin movies and entertainment with their poisonous issues. Narcissism is the worst especially when a parent is immature enough to harm a child, it's horrible.

On the contrary She's the one that needs to earn your love and respect as soon as you understand the difference between good and evil Parents must show their children almost unconditional love and support 24-7

​@GarkKahn Yeah but we know that other parents don't and they don't care cuz they're ALWAYS like that.

I had a foster parent who was like Pete. P.J. is definitely being abused.

I love that too!!!

"There are no accidents." -ooguay

Who could have foreseen(!) It’s _almost_ like the song was _written specifically_ to reflect on this exact thing! (!)

My family has the theory that Goofy actually knows Powerline like Max lied about to Roxanne, and that's why Powerline doesn't kick them off the stage. Not that they were close friends or anything, but Powerline was like "wait- Goof from that college improv group? No way dude!" And just rolls with it cuz he's cool

@@averagegirl7113 either this or Powerline didn't want to ruin the show by grinding it to a halt halfway through a number just to kick a couple of people off the stage.

I mean if we count Ducktales 2017, Donald’s not far behind with his relationship with his family, the three caballeros, and Daisy being pretty interesting. Mickey’s the only one who needs some good story development (though Epic Mickey and the newer 2d cartoons are a good start)

Yea it was George Maximilian Goof but they always just called him Maxi or max

Wait, but Donald has a whole family tree filled out. Scrooge McDuck, and his grand-nephews, Huey, Louie and Dewey, are at the center of “Ducktales,” one of my favorite cartoons growing up. Recently I stumbled upon a canonic family tree and the ducklings are the children of Donald and another duck lady. Daisy is Donald’s latest fling. In the meantime Donald’s dad is Scrooge’s brother, both born in Scotland. And Donald is on leave with the navy, that’s why he leaves his children with a beloved uncle. It’s all very elaborate and explains so much of “Ducktales.”

I use to watch that cartoon as a kid

@@Lady_ETHNEdoes Kingdom Hearts also count for Mickey? Somewhat ties into Sorcerer’s Apprentice from Fantasia anyway

You know it's a real shock that PJ never grew up to be like his dad. Even in Goof Troop, him and Max seem to get along very well.

​@@osmanyousif7849Max's friendship is probably what saved PJ from ending up in a bad way.

And Pete lost in the end, in the series he had a wife and daughter but in the movie they are no where to be found. I guess the wife was tired of his arrogant attitude and left with the daughter. I believe that Pete was jealous of Goofy and Max complicity and indirectly tried to destroy it.

@@rosettesionne9139 yeah cause he was blatantly eavesdropping on max pj and brought up the whole changing the map to Goofy.

@@pikachick222 Yes Pete was blatantly eavesdropping but he was in the right to tell Goofy that his trust was being manipulated. The way he went about it however wasn't the way to do it.

And the part about getting a pickle at Pickle’s in Arco is amazing!!!

i want to see our dear editor's hat collection

But they did write a dissertation. Why are you claiming they didn't?

I used to go to this thing where they would put on plays for kids, all different kinds of plays. Sure, they were fun, but when I realized I'd grown taller than all the other attendees, I realized I'd gotten too old for it. Fortunately, my parents understood this and didn't drag me along. So, yeah, I can see that would really get to Max.

Plus, people like Goofy enjoy this kind of stuff regardless of their ages. And he's not really connected with what Max likes, so he's just hoping his son will enjoy what he does.

Goofy was basically taking Max on a trip through his childhood, showing Max all the silly things he liked as a little kid, but the problem is that Max wasn’t the right age for it, because he’s a teenager, and so naturally he’s gonna think this stuff is lame, a trip like that would be more suited for when Max is in his late 20’s/early 30’s, because by then he’s mature enough to appreciate that stuff because he understands it’s what his dad grew up with and has fond memories of rather than just thinking it’s dumb because he’s concerned with being cool

yaaass Goof Troop mentioned and acknowledged

@@Carossmo I love this series. The dynamic between Goofy and Max is great, the dynamic between Pete and Goofy is great, Petes family is also hilarious (the right people found each other, it is a miracle PJ turned out to be the straight and upright one.^^

The perfect glow up from the series!

The narrative continuality and development of Max and Goofy and their relationship between Goof Troop, A Goofy Movie, An Extremely Goofy Movie, and Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas is honestly insane. It's the most consistent example of it in the Disney universe I think!

​@@aureliodeprimus8018 Pete and Goofy weren't so close, in the series Goofy even openly admitted he think Pete was cold and arrogant. But by his nature, he is just the type of person to not take things too seriously and live in the present. That is the main reason why they rarely quarrel despite Pete constantly making fun of Goofy, he just don't take it at heart.

Thank you for adding needed context, I did not know this!

I never even watched Goof Troop and that other thing yet I relate to Max. Holy flip, as someone who also had to parent my Mom, now I relate to Max even more!

THIS. SO MUCH THIS. People assume that parentification is just when the kid is taking care of the other siblings or when they have to sustain themselves, but people often overlook the emotional incest where the parent behaves like a kid and the kid is forced to deal with the mess their parents do. Goofy cares deeply about Max, but my lord was Max parentified in the Goof Troop and the specials, where he IS left responsible for his father's emotions and HE has to take care of him or cheer him up or snap him out of it, and let's not even talk about the messes he created. Goofy might have taken care of Max as in, well, love him, keep him fed, dressed and a roof over his head, but that's like BASIC parenting, but in terms of emotions and responsibility, Max has been acting like the parent. This isn't adressed enough.

I didn't know this either! Thank you!

​@@dracoangelrojo Wow! I think you said it more eloquently than I did. Thanks!!

I fucking died LOL!

My video cut to an ad for 'a footlong' 😳😲🫣

Goofy is a king and he puts it down

the sad part? we do he had canonical girl friends and flings through out his history including a cow.

@@caseydenimore6315 clarabelle!

I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year 😂 To the point they actually noticed XD

We had an audio drama version of the movie (with Finnish dub) on a cassette tape, and still probably have it somewhere at my home. The fact that those exist is really, an extra 90s thing added. I never was a big fan of the movie as a kid, but after I've gotten older, I've started to appreciate it. I'm born in 2003 but I grew up with a bunch of 90s kid big brothers, so I'm really familiar with most of the 90s stuff (I learned to use a VHS player before I knew how to use a DVD player, lol.)

No shame in singing Eye to Eye!

The song is amazing I don’t blame you

​@CinemaTherapyShow LOL knowing the words by heart is definitely confirms my age. That's it's own psychic damage Fathers of Cinema and Mental Wellness.

*record stratch* talking of psychic damage, thinking of Goofy's um... life like that is not a thing my mental health needs 😬😂. Cheers Jonathan

Where is the shame? The song goes MEGA HARD!!!

He must've taken Jessica Rabbit's "Better than Goofy" comment as a personal challenge.

To answer his question, there was some old Goofy short animations in the 60s or 70s or around that time where Goofy had a wife, so presumably, this is that timeline. A lovely Finnish KZfaqr called ZoneVD made a video about the topic, although sadly, the video's only in Finnish. So uh, it's canon that at least one iteration of Goofy has indeed, had sex.

since this is a comic maybe he was delivered by a stork.

The look Goofy gives in the car when Max chooses to shout out the directions to L.A instead of the directions to where they were gonna go fishing says it all, Goofy wasn’t even looking at the map but he knew when Max panically shouted left he chose L.A, and his look was one of “I’m very disappointed in you Max”

But Goofy didn´t want to "relate" to Max. He never acknowledged Max´s own hobbies or tastes, and didn´t try to at least understand them. Instead he tried forcing HIS own hobbies and likes onto Max. That is literaly the opposite of relating.

@@veronikamajerova4564 That's true, which is why I said try to relate. He was shocked when realizing that Max has different hobbies and learns to accept that through the storyline rather than force that change.

Yes! He was in all those old 50s style ads with the narrator.

Omg I LOVE THOSE!

"How to use a GPS" Goofy short...

@@anamaria-thecreativenerdd they did a bunch of them for the pandemic too.

​@@booey316 😍 :::: furiously searches for them all on KZfaq::::::

Goof is a good dad. I enjoyed seeing how unashamed he is to admit he loves his kid. Cartoon dads back then... not so great at that. My dad is a much of a goof. I am proud to say as his daughter so am I 🤪. Only diff, people pay me (sometimes) for my clownery.

@@Firegen1I can understand that

Nah, I'm still on Max's side. As someone who's had to deal with a guilt trippy parent, that scene of Goofy guilt tripping just re-ignited him as public enemy #1 for me again.

You can be on one side, yet also consider the other side… This isn’t an irreparable situation, they’re just not seeing each other’s perspectives until the end.

I wonder if it's canon that he divorced her after realizing she's been cheating on him with the milkman.

@@Dairunt1 actually i believe she passed in disney canon... But id have to double check. In goof troop goofy often refers to her lovingly through pictures and albums and max is also shown to be on good terms with her (hes younger there too, like little kid). Goofy also is shown remembering her fondly, so I don't think its a divorce thing

That's actually a Goofy Short film, and a ton of these are basically set in alternate worlds where every living thing's basically another Goofy, but given a different, more generic name like George. There's actually quite a ton of them, and they basically tackle darker and more adult subjects such as adultery and murder.

@@REALmikegordan its still in my headcanon that Goofy is a nickname and his actual name is George Goof.

From Wikipedia In his 1950s cartoons, he usually played a character called George G. Geef. Sources from the Goof Troop continuity give the character's full name as G. G. "Goofy" Goof, likely in reference to the 1950s name. In many other sources, both animated and comics, the surname Goof continues to be used.

Bigfoot dancing to "Stayin' Alive" lives rent free in my head; am 30.

Teenage feels and adult ones are 2 very different ends of the spectrum because as a teenager you start to care too much about what others think of you, whereas when you’re an adult you don’t really care what anyone else thinks of you, that’s why Goofy had no shame in doing that dance in front of of people but Max was like “Dad stop! This is embarrassing!” It’s a great display of the 2 different stages of self esteem that comes with age

Okay, now I need to watch this movie. My dad and I have had our difficulties over the years because he raised me to be independent but he still sees me as his little girl. I often feel like he should be proud of his 37-year-old for being so independent but he feels like he needs to fix my problems. (One solution is that I tell him how I fixed a problem then backtrack and tell him what the problem was!)

❤❤❤May your family continue to endure. I can’t even imagine. For all it’s worth, I love that you and your dad are so close and have such a great bond.

@@tiffanypersaud3518 Thank you

@@jillianromick5353 As I get older myself, I realize that my parents are getting older and that they have a head start and want to know they can be needed, even if it’s for small things.

I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year, to the point they actually noticed 😂

@@Sly-Moose Lol, you do good work sir and I thank you for it!

It's psychologically a very fraught movie, and the character development is all about coping with grief and loss. This is an excellent suggestion.

Agreed. I would love to see their take on lots of older movies played since the 80s. Not only newer ones.

Yes!!

Sorry for your loss❤, and I love what you are doing for yourself.

That's really tough. 😢

I'm so sorry for your loss! May your sister rest in peace 🙏❤️

And the disco scene is freaking rad. Its always sweet when you see a widower get to be happy with someone again.

that would be a good movie / sequel to analyze

I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year 😂 To the point they actually noticed XD

Pete seemed malicious to me and in that scene it always felt like he was happy that his friend is "failing" as a dad. 😢

@@OzmaOfOzz Nah, I just see it as him seeing the situation as proof of his parenting style being “right.” When you look at how he says PJ “respects him,” it’s clear to me that he thinks Max should be showing Goofy that same reverence. I really think Pete was trying to help Goofy, even if his methods aren’t the best.

@@nappa1381 I think Pete values honesty (at least this iteration); that's why he's friends with Goofy even though they're so different, both in personality and parenting style. However, both of them fail to see the bigger picture which is listening to their own son. He's a boomer "tough love" dad, but I don't see him as malicious.

@@Dairunt1 Exactly why I love this version of Pete. He can come off as a jerk (and he kinda is), but at the end of the day, he's just another guy, and to be fair, he's not entirely wrong about his beliefs on parenting. There's method to his madness, which makes him more likeable and more believable.

That's that old school Disney Magic. It's getting rarer, but it still likes to poke out every now and again.

That movie in bonkers beyond belief, and I LOVE IT

As long as they, yknow, skip over that one part in the restaurant at the beginning. I absolutely cannot watch that scene. Iykyk

​@@Boundwithflame23 YES it's one scene that I remember feeling instantly nauseous about when I was a kid

I wouldn't stop requesting this film in the comments all year, to the point they actually noticed 😂

That goes with this twisted theory that Roxanne cheated on Max for Goofy. That's why she wasn't in the sequel (the lookalikes don't count), and why Max went back to hating his dad again. Roxie took a bite of the apple (Max) but wanted the whole tree it came from (Goofy).

@@keshiaanders6452 She was in an episode of House of Mouse where she flirted with Goofy, and was promptly never seen again in future movies/shows.

@@TheMonacleSpy wtf I have stumbled upon a rabbit hole I want to unsee so bad

Oh shit, I remember him! ❤ I loved him in all those movies too.

He was in the movie version of Rent too in the support group for AIDS

Wow how did I not know they were married? Crazy!

@@anamaria-thecreativenerdd he absolutely was!!! 🖤🖤

Even now that still gives me nightmares to think about.😂

@@darkstrifequeen1458 so which is worse, when he turns into his dad or when Binx gets turned into a cat by the Sanderson sisters

😂😂😂 Gold!!!