Moving to France When You Don't Speak French

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Can you survive in France without knowing French? We ask this question plus lots of others of our favorite French educator, Benoit Rincé. We'll talk about how to approach learning the language to get ready for when you land in France!
Side note - this is the real-life Benoit who inspired "Benoit the Baguette" you see pop up in our videos with language explanations! 😊🥖We will be forever grateful for his help in making learning French feel fun and possible. ❤️
If you'd like to connect with Benoit, you can find him on LinkedIn at / benoit-rinc%c3%a9-7509...
00:00 - Intro
02:40 - Benoit Rincé
05:43 - Do you really need to know French before you leave the US?
08:40 - How do I begin learning French?
11:33 - What French vocabulary is most useful for beginners?
13:24 - How long does it take to learn French?
15:12 - Overcoming frustrating with the new language.
19:18 - How much will I remember from my French lesson?
21:18 - How good does my French need to be before I jump in?
30:30 - Summary
Favorite French shows on Netflix to practice listening to French and training your ear:
- Lupin (suspense) - www.netflix.com/fr-en/title/8...
- Call My Agent (comedy/drama) - www.netflix.com/fr-en/title/8...
- The Parisian Agency (real estate reality show) - www.netflix.com/fr-en/title/8...
- Resource Benoit recommends for French language practice. Listen to podcasts, do exercises, and take practice tests according to your specific level at francaisfacile.rfi.fr/fr/ -
P.S. Sorry, I don't know what was happening with that weird color changing on our screen!
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Follow our journey @ baguettebound.com/
About Us:
We are an American family of 3 who moved to France for an extended stay adventure in 2022.
We wanted to experience Europe as more than rushed tourists on a 10-day vacation. To dive into the culture, learn a new language, experience daily life, and truly know what it was like to work and live somewhere other than the US.
In France, we set up a business, enrolled in a middle school, found housing, and even got our cat a European passport!
While in the US preparing to leave, the information we found about staying in France for longer than a short vacation was directed at college students, young & single digital nomads, or retirees. Where was the useful information for families like us?
With a year under our belts in France, we created Baguette Bound to pass on what we have learned. We hope to make it easier and inspire other families who are interested in experiencing a long stay in France with their families. Stay tuned for more information on French culture, local travel ideas, and the logistics of moving across the world.
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@alexmarcus9009 2 ай бұрын

One of your disadvantages is that you are a couple and speak English to each other 24/7. Total immersion is scary and frustrating but it’s the most effective!

@richard_ager 7 ай бұрын

Here are my favourite French learners' KZfaq channels, more for intermediate/more advanced learners than beginners:- Piece of French French Mornings with Elisa Guillaume Posé - Professeur de français PLANÈTE FRANÇAIS TV avec Elsa Kenza Français avec Nelly Madame à Paname InnerFrench Learn French with Elizabeth - HelloFrench Easy French Français Authentique Francais avec Pierre Parlez-vous FRENCH For beginners, the following KZfaq channels are good: Comme une Française French with Alexa

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Well, I'm old school b/c I'm old. But there's this 1986 series, 'French In Action,' out of Yale's Modern Languages Dept. It was shown on U.S. PBS in the late 80's, early 90's. It was the beginning of total language immersion theory, which was the new trend in back then, but has evolved. The creator of the series - Pierre Capretz - don't even get me started on him - was so flamboyant and ridiculous, but his method works. He weaved in all kinds of film and literature references and general culturally correct elements. It works so well. Just relax, watch it, and try to pick it up little by little. You can watch Episode 3 as a beginner and learn quite a lot, then go back 5 years later and re-watch Episode 3 as an advanced French speaker and still learn a few things. It was such a great series. You can find it on KZfaq, but the video quality is horrible. It's worth it, though. Your phone and its 'apps' are NEVER going to teach you to speak French.

@michelpirovano6703 Ай бұрын

As a stranger in France too I would say that's good to try constantly to think in the language you're speaking..

@Mrs.Thomas-fk7fr 9 күн бұрын

Hello! I'm sure Benoit will agree ... to learn a foreign language you need to know the parts of speech in your own language. In the US especially, there is no longer any emphasis on teaching grammar. If you don't know even know what a subject, verb or predicate is, it's going to be very tough. Yes, you can memorize phrases and vocabulary words, but you'll never have a command of the language. What happens when the teacher says: "Today, we're going to learn how to conjugate the verbs "etre" and "avoir". Conjuwhat? Exactly. For a short visit, learning hello, thank you, and goodbye does go a long way, especially in France. It's polite. Benoit, you're doing a great service too! French is the most beautiful language in the world, and so, so rich in vocabulary, idiomatic expressions, and argot/verlans, adds yet another dimension. Commit. Au fait, congrats to you for placing Julianna in an all French school, you've done her a huge service!

@bonnietaylor6418 7 ай бұрын

I would love to take this leap in my 60th year now retired but leaving our 4 toddler grandchildren is not something I can ever picture doing. I love following your experience!! Good for you!!

@mabo4165 Ай бұрын

I've been teaching French as a foreign language for 25 years and have, of course, had many different learners. Among them, several retired people who came to France for 4 months to have the experience of living there and to challenge themselves to learn another language. They all loved the experience and I have to say that I adore these students because their motivation is discovery and pleasure. If you get the chance, do it!

@lecraberouge Ай бұрын

I recommend « le bureau des légendes » as a great show in French !

@northerngannetproject3147 Ай бұрын

Maybe not the most easy... 😅

@s3lfFish Ай бұрын

I knew people who never spoke french much for decades but I believe they made a mistake. It has nothing to do with us being proud. If you go live in another country, you just need to learn the language otherwise you'll miss so much. Besides learning a new language is good for your mental health, and each language gives you a unique perspective and philosophy on life, some words exist only in one language, the way it structures your thoughts. Just do it ;)

@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643 2 ай бұрын

Moving to France without speaking french is like moving to Iowa without speaking english.

@SRS829 Ай бұрын

Greetings Benoît from one of your former undergraduate English teachers - amazing to see you and what you’ve become!

@davidbercher9927 4 ай бұрын

Love the channel very informative. Enjoy watching the different videos. The one comment I do have is it seems like Raina talks a little too much. I think the point could be made more quickly. This is constructive criticism so please take it as that.

@s3lfFish Ай бұрын

just so you know, my english at school was mediocre at best (we do have horrible english teachers with horrible french accents = hence why we speak with so much grace... and the learning education doesn't focus on talking so we end up knowing the grammar more or less but unable to speak). But then I started to go in bars in Paris, meeting students from everywhere, then going to live and work and the UK in London, and I was listening to all those bands, and watching all those movies and tv shows. My english isn't perfect, and I'm losing it a bit not being able to practice it much with anyone, but its still good, and my biggest compliment and accomplishment is when people can't guess I'm french and they'll usually say swedish or netherlands or another european country where people actually do learn to speak english. So yeah, just listen, and speak as much as you can. it will flow... at some point ;)

@sebastienlola 2 ай бұрын

hello , there is a market that you absolutely must know about ! if you haven't already , in Revel, Haute-Garonne, every saturday morning , on of the most beautiful in France ! you will have to speak french ( ;

@jeremiahreilly9739 2 ай бұрын

I enjoy the diversity of the topics in your videos very much. I am gobsmacked that you moved to France without speaking a word of French. I immigrated to Montréal in French-speaking Québec knowing French at the B1 level and it was still hard. Subsequently I immigrated to German-speaking Switzerland, knowing German at the B2 level-it was also hard. I now know German at the C2 level-and it is still hard. Viewers who enjoyed this video-and you also-might enjoy the videos on Karen Bussen's KZfaq channel. She is an American who immigrated to France knowing French quite well-and it was still hard. (See the pattern here?) She discusses how to learn and improve one's French at any level. Small quibble for M. Rincé: The French language is not sexist. Sexism is a political or cultural term. Grammatical gender is not political. You could call the genders Blue and Red, or Flip and Flip, and nothing would change about the grammatical gender. The German words for wife and young woman are-wait for it-neuter in German, not feminine. Linguist here who knows Ancient Greek, Latin, German, French, Italian, and modern Greek.

@marjorieorveau6707 4 ай бұрын

I teach English for an association here in France (I'm English) and everything Benoît mentioned I agree with. Listen to French even though you don't understand anything, your brain picks it up. I have so many older students who want to translate everything, mostly word by word; that isn't how a language works. 'Se baigner dans la langue' is the best way to go. By the way, I love your videos x

@BaguetteBound 4 ай бұрын

I feel this as we continue to learn and interact with native speakers. Sometimes, when my French friends text me, I don't understand because I know the words they are using, but not the meaning of the way they are using them. It makes me realize the only way to learn this stuff is in the context of daily use over time. Which will come little by little. 😊 Thanks for watching!

@continental_drift 2 ай бұрын

There is heaps of French programs on KZfaq, you just need to look. The major problem is that the KZfaq algorithm always wants to show you English language programs.

@Redgethechemist Ай бұрын

In the countryside, there are English speakers, younger people have at least a minimum level of English since they start learning from the age of 9 nowadays. It’s just that many feel uncomfortable speaking to English speakers, and by lack of practice, their accent might not be the best one. For English speakers forgetting vocabulary, try to find a posh word instead, pronounce it the French way and you might be close to its French counterpart. Example, you want a drink but don’t remember boisson, think of beverage and you have breuvage. It will sound weird as it sounds medieval, but French speakers will understand. It’s true that at some point, progressing requires practice with natives. I used to be among the best of my class in English, but I really progressed after living in Canada for 5 months. My writing and reading were good, but my listening skills and ability to answer fast and elaborate a syntactically correct sentence in half a second were close to zero. I had embarrassing moments asking people to repeat x times. And usually people hear you speak their language correctly but don’t comprehend why you don’t understand straight when they speak the fast paced local language, or even dialect sometimes. Learning French for English speakers is actually quite easy, I think American embassies have a classification of language difficulty level. On a last note, try learning a totally different language, Finnish for example, and you will think that French is so easy.

@paka5161 Ай бұрын

Bonjour, merci pour ces vidéos très intéressantes ! Les français passent leur temps à corriger les fautes de français des autres, c'est une passion pour certains :) Acceptez-vous qu'on vous corrige ? Ou prenez-vous ça comme insulte ?

@coupdegenie51 2 ай бұрын

Je suggère à tout le monde écouter la radio France Culture, aussi bien au niveau de la façon dont les gens s'expriment que du contenu.

@continental_drift 2 ай бұрын

J'habite en australie et J'écoute tout le temps la radio française sur le internet.

@fabricerubio1070 Ай бұрын

Cool ? Quelles sont vos émissions préférés ? Désolé.... je suis curieux !

@fabricerubio1070 Ай бұрын

Cool ? Quelles sont vos émissions préférés ? Désolé.... je suis curieux !

@coupdegenie51 Ай бұрын

La playlist de France culture les jours de grève😅

@BigMacOsaurusRex 2 ай бұрын

French numbers can be peculiar; for example, "95" is expressed as "Quatre vingt quinze," whereas in Belgian French, it's "nonante-cinq," which seems more accurate, resembling "ninety-five.

@annebories3093 Ай бұрын

Le français est une langue merveilleuse . Bon courage 😊

@couli1807 Ай бұрын

Good news first: for an English speaker, French is supposed to be the easiest foreign language to learn! Now it is more difficult for Americans than British, as British are more exposed to French through bothway travels, teaching, which is much more common in the UK compared to the US and through history. I keep hearing "the French grammar is (more) difficult, which is true but at the same time the two languages remain quite similar in sentences structure, conjugation, etc. Some formal French lessons will easily give you the basics. However the two languages sound so different and, to me, this is the major hurdle. Especially these days when most people want to approach a foreign language through speaking. So if I were you I would spend some time getting acquainted with the French "musicality", meaning specific phonems that you should learn to approximate but also the rythm and music of the language as they are totally different. Basically, English is a stressed and rythmic language when French is not. If I started now to learn English, I would definitely focus more on this aspect and build on it. Like a baby learns to speak by reproducing the sounds, words and sentences he hears. Audio books are an interesting option and you can for example, isolate a paragraph you more or less understand then record yourself reading it out loud until it sounds satisfactorily similar. In my view, it will give you much faster the confidence necessary to speak, starting with simple sentences correctly phrased. Afterall speaking is aimed at mutual understanding and this requires clarity.

@bluewaterstudio 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. It is so valuable to know that one's struggles are not unique to you! I do have a question. Where did you get the A1 testing? -Daniel (Paris)

@BaguetteBound 7 ай бұрын

Hi Daniel! We took the test at the l’Alliance Française, the Bordeaux location. They offer it a couple of times a year. I would think most AF locations would offer it? This is the site for the Paris location - www.alliancefr.org/en/

@bluewaterstudio 7 ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound Oh dear .. I live just across from Jardin du Luxembourg and the location is just around the corner by my favorite Ramen haunt! Merci beaucoup!

@BaguetteBound 7 ай бұрын

@@bluewaterstudiothat's awesome!! Let us know how it goes if you take it and good luck!! 🙌

@bluewaterstudio 7 ай бұрын

@@BaguetteBound I would take the A2 test ... just to validate my efforts so far. B1 looms large, as I chip away at it each day!

@BaguetteBound 7 ай бұрын

That is such a good way to describe it @@bluewaterstudio, chipping away each day!

@michaelrapier339 2 ай бұрын

I first took french in junior high but only recently planned a trip to Quebec City, Polynésie Francaise, then Paris, 50 years later. so i took 5 quarters French at the local jr college as a refresher. So agree that practice speaking with french speakers. I could catch most of what was said, but spoken french is so fast, yet i found the french very gracious with my prononciation. I even got corrected when i used the wrong gender. It is like riding a bike as a little kid, you will fall down alot, but getting back on the bike is half the battle.

@nox8730 2 ай бұрын

Yes, if we feel that you are committed learning we will go out of our way to correct your mistakes. Although many americans apparently feel outraged by that and call us arrogant for it. Those people are right in that we shouldn't have bothered wasting our time with them indeed.

@michaelrapier339 2 ай бұрын

Half the fun of travel is interacting with the people you meet, we all have a story.

@nox8730 2 ай бұрын

@@michaelrapier339 I completely agree. I don't really see the point in "seeing" or "visiting" stuff at a frenetic pace, since i believe that it is the people that make a country.

@michaelrapier339 2 ай бұрын

I so agree with your statement! It is the journey, not the destination.

@charlesrussell8137 7 ай бұрын

You are right about the French people being very gracious when it comes to helping you out if you are struggling in French. What is really important, in my experience, is being polite. Always say Bonjour when you go into a shop, always say Merci & Au revoir when you leave. If you don't know a French word, tentatively try an English one - 40% of English words are French anyway . Something that benefitted me when learning French was to listen to the news on the radio on my morning commute to work. I would listen to BBC Radio 4 news in English, then listen to the news on Radio France Inter in French. Apart from solely domestic stories, the news was basically the same but it a different language. You can also here how the French say words that are already familiar to you in English. Its hard to drop the way you are used to saying words such as Bonjour, Au revoir, Bordeaux or Paris and use a French pronunciation. My wife and I are both dual French, British citizens and spend part of our time in each country and have done for decades. Good luck, I'm sure there are lots of things you've learned and your daughter seems to be doing really well too.

@Balrog2005 2 ай бұрын

In a sense you are lucky to live in the 2020's so moving to France without speaking the language is not an impossible task, because in the 80s it would have been pure craziness... the number of english speakers now is way more superior and 40 years ago the majority were english teachers or tourist industry top notch workers. Very few people, a part in customs or some parisian office, will have dominated basic english in any administration. And of course no internet.

@marsupiomarsupi4421 5 ай бұрын

"Do you speak French? No. Not a word." But rejoice! You already know thousands of French words! American Institute for English Proficiency: "The language which English has borrowed the most from is French. Many French words have found their way into English. In fact, it is quite possible that the English language shares at least 40% of the same vocabulary with the French language."

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Yeah. When I had to teach French to a bunch of dumb frat boys/girls in Oklahoma in the 1990s I taught them the Adam Sandler 'Cajun Man Rule.' From Adam Sandler's Saturday Night Live 'Cajun Man' sketch. (...) If Adam Sandler's 'Cajun Man' said it, it's the same word in English as French and the word is FEMININE in French even though it ends in a consonant, which usually means it would be masculine: HOST: "How are you doing, Cajun Man?' Adam Sandler: "Infection." HOST: "Infection? How did that happen, Cajun Man?" Adam Sandler: 'Prostitution...'

@antibash691 2 ай бұрын

Étrange de faire dire « est-ce que tu es » alors que la façon la plus facile et la plus belle est de dire « es-tu » ou pour dire « est-ce que tu as » dire simplement « as-tu ». Autre exemple au lieu de dire« est-ce qu’il est » dire « est-il », etc. Formes de phrases qui en plus se rapprochent le plus de la forme interrogative anglaise.

@mabo4165 Ай бұрын

Non, ce n'est pas étrange. D'une part, ce sont des formulations soutenus qui ne sont pas très utilisées dans le quotidien. D'autre part, étant donné que l'intonation d'une question en français n'est pas toujours facile à reproduire pour une personne étrangère, utiliser "est-ce que" permet de s'assurer que l'interlocuteur comprendra que c'est une question. Et, rassurez-vous, les 3 formes interrogatives (soutenue avec inversion sujet-verbe, standard avec "est-ce que" et familière,, sans inversion ni "est-ce que" mais intonation montante bien marquée) sont enseignées. 😉

@mabo4165 Ай бұрын

formulations soutenues*

@s3lfFish Ай бұрын

varsity ;)

@gulden4386 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience. For now, I have a quick question. How can I contact Benoit? Merci!

@BaguetteBound 7 ай бұрын

You can message him through LinkedIn. 🙂 www.linkedin.com/in/benoit-rinc%C3%A9-750976214

@gulden4386 7 ай бұрын

Appreciate your reply. However, I don't do social media much...no Linkedin account, no Facebook etc. So, for now, Duolingo it is. Enjoy your stay in France. Hoping, someday, I will be able to return to the Mediterranean region myself.

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Benoit is great, but any French teacher with training in language acquisition (not just some random French speaker trying to 'teach' French) pretty much approaches it from his perspective and has his insights. Many well-qualified teachers could help you.

@Kim-J312 7 ай бұрын

What about enrolling in French language courses at University?? I took 4 yrs of French in HS and university but that was 30yrs ago 😢. You dont really use french in the US . Anyways id re-enroll at university to re learn french . I find apps are useless!! All those apps teach you is cutsey sayings Like Wheres the beach ? Id like a coffie . Where is the bank , store ect. Apps dont teach grammar 😢. I recommend taking french courses at a college level you will leaarn grammar, past present tenses ect ect

@Etiennerabati 2 ай бұрын

Not a word!what about question table cliché interogation negation coup d'état rendez vous voyage affirmation ans more and more

@davemaxs4136 22 күн бұрын

If you move to. France, learn French.

@richardbird8097 13 күн бұрын

Does anyone in France actually say, "Allo?"

@BaguetteBound 13 күн бұрын

Yep, but only when answering the phone.

@KBinturong Ай бұрын

I'm sure your kid is correcting your french haha

@BaguetteBound Ай бұрын

Presque tous les jours. :)

@red-one5923 Ай бұрын

Benoit il est rincé!

@Kim-J312 7 ай бұрын

Fyi most of the romance languages are very easy to learn French , Spanish ect .

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

I think French is the most difficult of them though. The spelling is break-neck. That said I had to study Korean when I taught there. Or go try to learn Hungarian or Finnish. French is NOT hard, comparatively.

@bbeka5875 2 ай бұрын

Ce sont tout simplement des fainéants en culture.. j’ai une amie sicilienne qui parle parfaitement le français au bout de 5 mois.. alors qu’au début elle savait à peine dire bonjour…!!!

@mabo4165 Ай бұрын

Avec tout le respect que j'ai pour le travail de cette personne, il faut être conscient qu'apprendre le français quand est italien est plus facile que quand on est anglophone. 🙄

@duncansmith7562 7 ай бұрын

Where we are in France (Canet en Roussillon) I would say knowing French is not essential to enjoy life, and love living, in France. Loads of locals actually love practising their English with us. As mentioned in this video, dealing with French admin in French is a massive advantage, and that takes a pretty high level of French. I wouldn't say that speaking French is a "make or break" thing, but without it there are some pretty big barriers to truly becoming part of the community, if that is important to you (to many, it really isn't, and that's fine too).

@philv3941 6 ай бұрын

The roussillon is cool, i like the marina of canet and the bars in the dunes at the left of the port, but i n the zone , the coolest is Gruissant to me, Enjoy your stay !

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Hey! I'm not all that far, over in the Vallespir. I love Canet, really the whole coast in this area. It's where my son always wants to go when he visits. And IMO Southwest France is particularly laid back. I wouldn't say there's no need to BOTHER learning French, but it seems locals are pretty good at rolling with foreigners' attempts at trying to communicate.

@kath6720 6 ай бұрын

French is not sexist. It’s an incredibly rich language actually. And I quite like the feminine and masculine. Nothing wrong with f with being gendered. It’s not a sin 😂

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Yawn.

@michelblanchet142 Ай бұрын

Benoît IS confusing sexist and gendered sexiste/sexuée in French

@user-jr1kh6dw7q Ай бұрын

How can you said French is sexist, dn't lie and respect ypur own language . If it's there a feminine form it's precisely a respect of the féminine and woman. In english there is no place form feminine: these is a sexist grammar. When you say yesterday I was with my close friend you don't know if I speak about girl or guy (sexist and not accurate : only a masculine form really exist) exist

@rochellezimmerbishop4681 7 ай бұрын

Are there any French people left in France?

@JeanPierreDelaitre-gv6mq 5 ай бұрын

Less and less . We re overwelmed By muslims as the rest of Europe. They even don t respect us. Come to help us . You welcome.

@heliedecastanet1882 4 ай бұрын

67 millions. Thanks for your concern.

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Please note that the owners of this 'youTube channel' they're so desperately trying to monetize have deleted a dozen replies to Rochelle's query. They don't want the question to be answered.

@heliedecastanet1882 2 ай бұрын

@@kimdelo9795 Well, as a Frenchman, I can answer Rochelle once again : 67 millions people.

@davidniquot6423 19 күн бұрын

My girlfriend who is an english teacher .. got a ffar better accent then Benoit .. sorry .. :D

@rosendocavazos4566 7 ай бұрын

The use of the word “like” is distracting to the listener… but great content.

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

And the ridiculous over-the-top loud fake laughter. It's very, very americanny-americanny-merican and it drives people from other countries nuts. While Benoit is teaching them French he needs to teach them to bring it down about 50 notches and not be so freaking LOUD.

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Like, great content, like, QUOI! Ce sont des cons, quoi! Des imbéciles, QUOI! À en mourir, QUOI!

@JeanPierreDelaitre-gv6mq 5 ай бұрын

Les 2 préoccupations de beaucoup d anglophones s installant en Europe : 1)Vivre et travailler uniquement avec L anglais. 2) comment pouvoir bénéficier du système communiste de soins. Reponse: aller en Angleterre ou en Irlande. 6

@heliedecastanet1882 4 ай бұрын

Les deux préoccupations de Jean-Pierre Delaitre : 1/ Essayer de formuler quelque chose de sensé. 2/ Échouer, mais tenter quand même le coup. Réponse : et si vous n'écriviez rien, vous évitant des efforts inutiles, et pour nous un moment pénible ?

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

Je suis d'accord jusqu'au point où ils pensent qu'apprendre LA LANGUE d'un pays n'est pas vraiment important, ils veulent vivre en France ou en Italy ou en Espagne parce que 'It's so PREEEETTTTY! I just LOVE it when I go there for 15 minutes on vacation! The real estate is so cheeeaaaap!' Mais je pense que la plupart de ces gens sont trop riches et trop cons pour se rendre compte des arnaques qu'ils pourraient utiliser pour liquider les systèmes sociaux européens. Ce n'est pas leur objectif.

@heliedecastanet1882 2 ай бұрын

@@kimdelo9795 Ne pas apprendre la langue du pays hôte est une chose très répandue chez les expatriés ou les retraités. Je connais très peu de Français qui ont pris la peine d'apprendre l'arabe ou le portugais en s'installant au Maroc ou au Portugal 🙂

@kimdelo9795 2 ай бұрын

@@heliedecastanet1882 Oui, mais la plupart de ces gens 'KZfaq' ne sont pas des 'retraités.' Et les français au Portugal devraient faire un effort s'ils ne le font pas.

@heliedecastanet1882 2 ай бұрын

@@kimdelo9795 C'est pourquoi j'ai aussi parlé des expatriés, et pas seulement des retraités. Et nous sommes d'accord sur le fond, je pense : que l'on soit Britannique, Français, Allemands ou autres, il y aura toujours des gens pour estimer qu'apprendre la langue du pays hôte est optionnel (j'ajoute cependant que je connais beaucoup de Britanniques installés en France et qui parlent français). C'est regrettable, mais c'est ainsi. Bonne soirée à vous !