Mr Scary Mod - Make Your Mesa Badlander A Fire Breather

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I try the Legendary Tones Mr Scary Mod on my Mesa Boogie Badlander. Now it sounds like a real, bonified metal amp

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@LegendaryTones 4 ай бұрын

One additional comment I should add is that the mod unit is wired using silicon flex wiring to the socket so it is designed to rotate. That means you can set it up the other way with controls facing backward and get easier access there without taking off the front panel. That said it is designed as “set and forget” for whatever amp you use it with. Just wanted to note that in case for any interested viewers.

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this information. By the way, thank you for making such a great product! What a true game changer

@m3ssym3ss 4 ай бұрын

does it work with dual rectifier 100w 3 channel multiwatt version?

@davevanconant7488 4 ай бұрын

You responded to me on Kyle's thread, but last question. Will it also work with the 50w badlander not the 100?

@LegendaryTones 4 ай бұрын

@@m3ssym3ss EDIT: 3/15/24 It works in the three-channel models now as well!

@Stinger_1995 4 ай бұрын

@@LegendaryTones Hey David! Kyle Bull recently shot a video where he used a Hot Mod on a 3 channel Rectifier. The video is titled "This Harley Benton Guitar really let me down" and he says it at the 12:43 time mark. Thanks for making such a wonderful product!

@LegendaryTones 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing! I’m a long-time viewer of your channel and really appreciate all you do for the community.

@billyarbrough291 4 ай бұрын

If this won’t work in my ‘89 2210 JCM 800, will it work in my 50w Mesa Single Rectifier?

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

My pleasure! This product needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

@tadgoodman 4 ай бұрын

I have one of these in my JCM800 50w clone and it turned it into an absolute beast. I would recommend this to anyone.

@Jficklen 4 ай бұрын

I immediately ordered one after watching Kyle’s video. I have a Badlander 100 and already love the tone… kind of contemplating using it in my JCM900 that I have never liked.

@JoshCarter-zi2zr 4 ай бұрын

Put one in my Marshall TSL 100. Made the amp sound incredibly nasty without the need for a boost. Love it.

@DingeyBasementRecordings 4 ай бұрын

Sounds awesome!! Great job Jarrod!

@johnfinlay4963 22 күн бұрын

Holy shit … you are my hero. I got my Badlander 50 2 weeks ago and have been going through the same issues . Are these things hard to come by? Can i install it myself ? That tone is exactly what I want . Sonic Drive Studios sent me to your channel . Just subbed it . Thank you my brother. I had been out of the music scene for over 20 years and am having my 60 year old mid life crisis and needed to play loud again. So when I got me Badlander and 4x12 cab is was expecting a little more and I believe I have found my answer . 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻thank you Which one do I get the reverse or standard?

@josephrusso7069 2 ай бұрын

Wow. I never heard a Mesa Boogie sound so good and wicked!

@TONEWARSgearshow 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting. This mod is for real!

@tbone786 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing these video jared, your #1!

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@TrumpetsInMy4x12 4 ай бұрын

Just traded mine the other day. BL needs a depth/resonance control and more gain on tap that doesn't require you to dime it. This by all accounts is a great addition to the amp \m/

@SuperCMO79 4 ай бұрын

Ok I was just listening here when you made your tweaks around 6 minutes in on another browser doing some browsing....Picked up my jaw from the floor when you said the badlander was in crunch mode. That sounded really really good. Kind of like How I play my Bogner Ultra inteh "Clean" Mode ;)

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

I know right?! I couldn't believe it myself. This mod rules

@duanemcknight3895 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Jared. I'm going to add the Mr. Scary mod to my 6505+ to see it if it ads.

@BillyRiffinDaTube 2 ай бұрын

well im f*%*% sold. I love this amp but feel the same way. I have been patiently waiting for some kind of mod to hit the market. This amp has the potential to be one of the best modern amps in existence but seems to be missing what this mod gives it.

@TONEWARSgearshow 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting. Trust me you will be absolutely Blown Away with this mod.

@metal_helm 4 ай бұрын

Wow. Once you put the mud killer with it my first thought was, "time to compare it with the evh stealth!"

@donniejean 2 ай бұрын

You said “queenus”. Lmao I’m so stealing that!

@These_go_to_eleven_1959 Ай бұрын

For me I like to set the Mr. Scary unit on full and then i just use the gain of the amp to dail it in. It is a set and forget unit for me this way.

@michaelgallegos8811 4 ай бұрын

Great video Jarrod i been wanting to get one of those for about 2years now for my Marshall DSL H 100 heads i have 2 would be kick ass if i could get 2 of them! what a great idea from Legendary Tones!!🎶🎵🎸🍻😈 yesterday i had crappy day something about Fridays for me man! there is always a royal F... Up for me to deal with 😂 thanks for the video that really is a great piece of gear ⚙️ 👍

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Sorry to hear about your stressful Friday. I had a really stressful Thursday this week and I'm glad it's over with. I totally get where you're coming from

@davefargo452 4 ай бұрын

i got mine coming next week for my badlander

@techdeathhippie6319 4 ай бұрын

Send a recto to Hermanson and it comes back as the most unique brutal recto ever

@rottingcorpse6002 Ай бұрын

You know you wish you had my FBM. How's that Larry coming along? (laughing maniacally)

@techdeathhippie6319 Ай бұрын

@@rottingcorpse6002 lol you mother fucjer ! It’s coming along SOON . So soon I can taste it

@donniejean 2 ай бұрын

They need to make a “Office Space 2” and show Miltons office in the basement and it’s set up like this 😂😂😂

@mattvdh 2 ай бұрын

it sounded perfect with the mudkiller...fuckin aye

@Dobis86 4 ай бұрын

I love to keep this amp on Variac mode, to me thats where the magic happens.

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

I'm really digging that mode as well

@teriakamoto 4 ай бұрын

The Leads Scream. 🙀. Killer product !

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting. Yeah, I was really surprised at how much better the amp sounded, felt and performed with this mod

@GEX-_- 4 ай бұрын

This is what using a tube amp to boost a tube amp sounds like. I prefer using several rack tube preamps instead of pedals for boosting amps now. I have more control with the EQ of the preamp vs a scary mod. Can use rack tube preamp with any amp. Tube preamp as a suedo boost destroys regular pedals.

@d.a.6608 4 ай бұрын

That sounds great I’m getting one for myself

@donniejean 2 ай бұрын

We sound like we have the same luck working with tools. What should take 10 minutes takes me hours, sometimes days because of stripping screws etc… us rocket surgeons.

@michaelpierce3641 4 ай бұрын

I was going to get mr. scary mod and use it for my peavey Valveking .

@donniejean 4 ай бұрын

Not sure if you got one (didn’t watch the entire video) but they are 4 week backorder. However a little birdy told me a certain motor city may or may not have them in next week ;)

@helies2862 4 ай бұрын

This Scary Mod is such a great little creation. In regards to having to use it with a newer high gain amplifier is abit absurd and a fail by Mesa. I think if you have the amp it would be smart to grab the Scary mod but I definitely wouldn’t advise buying a Badlander and a Scary Mod when there are exceptional high gain amps much cheaper right out the box. In saying that, the badlander sounded close to the best I’ve heard 👌

@johnnytonez8213 4 ай бұрын

hey man love the channell, purchased a pack last nite and wondering what to do ?? new QC owner..thnx

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. Which pack did you purchase, and are you having trouble loading them in your qc?

@Shadowsreach1 4 ай бұрын

man that is killer! Great video man! hey curious how do you go about mixing the royer 121 and 57 in the daw or mixer to get your tone. Do you use any eq, compression etc. are the volumes of the mics the same or do you mix to tase? Thanks for all you do man !

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. So, to your question, there is a special clip you can buy for both of these mics to be in Phase with each other. I mix using my mixing console to taste. The sm57 is a bit higher in the mix because I want that nice Cut and Sizzle from that. The Royer 121 is mixed slightly lower but it captures all of that great low end and punch as well as some low mids

@Shadowsreach1 4 ай бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow awesome! Thanks for the info !

@BehindTheWoodshed.66 4 ай бұрын

Very solid sound compared to previous demonstration. Is this month specific to this amp; or can it be applied to let’s say… Mesa boogie mark 525?

@Eliphas_Elric 4 ай бұрын

Can't use them on Mark Series amps.

@jeffhirshberg5171 4 ай бұрын

I have a mid 00's 100w Bugera head that's been wasting space for nearly 20 years. I'm going to have to try this on it. Another great demo, Jarrod. One question: Do mods such as this shorten the life of tubes?

@LegendaryTones 4 ай бұрын

I can respond from my perspective. Tube life is not an issue. It is really only a factor (with or without the mod) with output tubes - especially when you are cranking up say an old Marshall or Vox AC30 that doesn’t have a master volume. When you are cranking the amp to compression like in the old days. These days the preamp is providing the majority of the tone and the output tubes will shape and sculpt the tonality (it’s the final signal before going to the speakers) but we generally don’t push them the way we used to. And actually for heavier sounds, pushing the output tubes doesn’t sound very good as things can get over-compressed. But to answer your question, no issue with tube life being shorter at all. The design has been validated and blessed by great designers including Mike Soldano and my co-designer Andy Marshall. As far as the Bugera, it’s not going to be compatible. Check out the LegendaryTones site and there’s info there about amps that are compatible that we’ve validated. Thank you for the interest!

@KaddysJamKave 4 ай бұрын

Interesting mod, never tried one so I don't know what all the hype is all about, but I headed over to KB's channel to have a listen and the mod just sounded like it had a bit more presence and gain. I question whether an EQ in the fx loop would give just as good of a difference at a fraction of the cost.

@LegendaryTones 4 ай бұрын

I totally get it. It’s one of the challenges with video in general and demos as the differences are always more subtle than real-world use. What I tell people is there is nothing wrong with using a boost or other devices! This is just a different flavor and approach - because it’s adding its gain stage later downstream in the circuit at the tone stack, it’s enabling a different feel - where you can turn down the preamp gain at the front end for better definition/articulation and then get the additional needed sustain back by using the mod. Cost/price I definitely acknowledge as well, but we’ve opted to 100% build here in the US and support a number of regional businesses, from the casing to the boards. I could take it overseas and reduce the price but have opted not to as I like knowing I’m helping (even in a small way) many of the local/regional businesses here.

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting, I can assure you that an EQ in the loop will do very little compared to what this mod does This mod adds more gain and fullness to the amplifier in a way that an EQ in the loop could never do. The feel, saturation, sound and response are completely different now. A lot of people would probably forgo the overdrive with this amplifier by using this mod

@TudorAdrian 4 ай бұрын

Ah screw it (pun intended ) man - this mod sounds great in the Badlander as well. It rips in my Ceriatone amps!

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting. Yeah, I really want to try this mod in several other amps as well

@FastRedPonyCar 2 ай бұрын

I’m struggling with the badlander that I’ve got for review as well. It’s a really strange sounding amp. It has a good amount of gain for what I want to do, but it’s an incredibly dry and unsaturated gain that makes it feel very weak and when using my volume knob or a volume pedal to roll back the gain to try and clean up the sound, the amp just disappears. I played my first show with it this weekend and had fairly good results. using a Jackson audio prism in front of the amp as an always on boost and then would use my golden boy drive on the tube screamer setting if I needed something really high gain, but the prism did a good job of adding Mmore saturation to the sound. I honestly thought that I was doing something wrong at first as I know Mesas can be very temperamental with their EQ and tone stack but a lot of people are saying the same thing that I’m thinking about the amp. I hate to say it, but in a high gain, modern rock sound dialed in, my jubilee absolutely whips this thing. Did you believe obviously isn’t the greatest thing around for modern metal but for anything less, did jubilee just flat out has a better sound.

@TONEWARSgearshow 2 ай бұрын

Have you tried the mod yet

@FastRedPonyCar 2 ай бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow Not yet. The Prism delivers great results. I'm considering it though since it's one less thing in my signal chain in front of the amp. I'm not necessarily after more gain from the amp, I'm wanting more saturation. It's an incredibly dry gain from the amp and (for better or worse) incredibly unforgiving but what hurts it the most for me is when I try to roll back the volume to clean up the sound, that's where it suffers the most... almost like all of the life has just been choked out of the signal. I've been wanting to get a triple crown to see how it compares but after hearing this badlander, I'm scared it will be more of the same. Even if the badlander doesn't stick around, I think it would sound great in the Jubilee but the standard vs reverse wiring has me a bit confused.

@TONEWARSgearshow 2 ай бұрын

@@FastRedPonyCar thanks for responding. I'm telling you, that mod will give that amplifier everything that it's lacking. I felt the same way about my Badlander until I put the mod in there. Now it has more saturation and fullness in the field is much better as well

@FastRedPonyCar 2 ай бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow It's still a bit of a sour experience having to throw a $300 product at a $2500 amp to get a good sound. Seems like the Triple Crown is a better amp? the Mark VII is also on my list to try out but I'm working my way up the ladder. I don't do hardly any metal. My main gigging amps for years has been my Silver Jubilee and a SLO.

@metalfather8139 4 ай бұрын

Thank goodness it sounded good after all that back an forth

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

I hear ya lol. That was a crazy day

@SimmoPlaysGuitar 4 ай бұрын

Holy shit! 😮

@lyricbread 4 ай бұрын

“Queenis.” 😂

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Haha

@gscash 4 ай бұрын

Do the Quilter. See if it's worth a damn. Sounded massive to me when Kyle used it. Haven't seen any other vids besides his worth a damn though for heavy stuff.

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. I will definitely look into it

@MotoRiff77 4 ай бұрын

It's too bad it doesn't work with my Origin 50, that amp could really use this mod

@rangerc310 4 ай бұрын

I would love to see this in a 5150 III EL34 Blue Channel

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting. Honestly, I don't know if it would fix that channel because it's so muddy and loose. I think the c137 mod that they do to that amp is the way to go

@waynefaircloth3423 4 ай бұрын

Hey Jarrod. Quick question. I take it that this amp is running thru your pedal board and it is in a 4 cable setup? I am asking because I am curious about the usage of a noise gate being used. It sounds AMAZING and you have turned my head towards this amp once again

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for commenting. Yes I am using the amp with my pedal board and the Noise Gate is running via four cable method. The Noise Gate I'm using is the Revv G8

@tyreechiejackstone7379 4 ай бұрын

@TONEWARS Great vid! I also use the Revv G8 through my Marshall DSL 2000, and it's a great gate. However, using 4 cable, the gate tends to eat my reverb from the amp and my Boss delay alive, even with the threshold set at half or less. Have you had this problem, and if so, how did u remedy it? Thanks, great channel!

@BehindTheWoodshed.66 4 ай бұрын

Good afternoon

@llnkv_ 2 ай бұрын

how hard is it to install? I’ve never tried mods so clueless about the process. do you need to solder wires or just replace the right tube?

@TONEWARSgearshow 2 ай бұрын

It's very easy to install. It only takes a few minutes. No soldering required at all.

@DragonToad7378 4 ай бұрын

Which one did you use? Standard or reverse wire?

@DragonToad7378 4 ай бұрын

You just said it in the video lol

@piotrczernikiewicz 4 ай бұрын

Does it affect the clean tones as well?

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Slightly, but if you roll your volume back on your guitar that takes care of it

@BillyRiffinDaTube 2 ай бұрын

cant find the extension you mention is there a link?

@TONEWARSgearshow 2 ай бұрын

The link is in the top of the description

@jamesryder9158 4 ай бұрын

Im too stupid to install pickups in my guitar let alone do the mr. Scary mod, its a miracle that i can change strings

@elus1ve0ne64 4 ай бұрын

I bet you can do it man. Tubes are easier to replace than soldering in pickups. 👍

@dnd820 4 ай бұрын

Kinda how I feel about my SLO 100......

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

Legendary Tones makes a mod for that amp too

@catalyzed8457 4 ай бұрын

Man, you definitely have to release some kind of Boost Karen tshirt 😂😂😂

@TONEWARSgearshow 4 ай бұрын

It's being designed as we speak. Stay tuned...

@catalyzed8457 4 ай бұрын

@@TONEWARSgearshow Awesome! 🤘🏻

@donniejean 2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@jessemuscato 4 ай бұрын

I do believe the people who were right where the people who designed it. Lol. Anybody could have demoed it.

@These_go_to_eleven_1959 Ай бұрын

I seem disinfo going around that you can just use an OD pedal and get the same tone/effect as the Mr scary unit!! This is absolutely not true at all! they are not the same thing and have a different tone and feel!