NEVER be confused by HORSEPOWER and TORQUE again - HP and TORQUE EXPLAINED in the MOST VISUAL WAY

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In today's video I'll be using Legos to give you the most visual explanation and demonstration of horsepower and torque. If you have ever been confused by horsepower and torque I guarantee that after watching this video these two concepts will never confuse you again.
So let's get started, and we're starting with Torque. Now this LARGE Lego motor outputs 0.14 Nm and this smaller LEGO motor outputs 0.03 Newton meters. What's a newton meter? Well a newton meter is a MEASURE of torque. It measures HOW MUCH torque is being generated.
What is torque? The simplest explanation of torque is that it's a ROTATIONAL FORCE. It's the ROTATIONAL equivalent of LINEAR FORCE.
When you take this bolt and push it you're applying linear force to it. But when you decide to bolt it down you're applying torque to it. In both cases a certain amount of force is present but what's different is the direction of that force.
So our LEGO motors are outputting a certain amount of torque that we have expressed in Newton Meters.
1 newton meter of torque simply equals the force of 1 Newton applied at the end of an arm that is one meter long. So for example if we take this bolt and use this wrench which is one meter long and apply a force of 1 newton at it's end the resulting torque present at the bolt will be ONE NEWTON-METER. Newton meters confuse you? No problem, because torque can also easily be expressed in foot pounds.
1 foot pound of torque is equal to the force of 1 pound being applied at the end of an arm that is 1 foot long.
So in this scenario I'm using the stored energy in my muscles to generate torque at the bolt. Our Lego motors are doing the same thing, they're using the electrical energy stored in these batteries to generate torque or rotational force, and as we have seen our large Lego motor is outputting more torque than our small motor. This difference in torque can EASILY BE FELT. If we install a small shaft into our motor we can feel the difference in rotational force coming from these motors. The difference in torque output is very obvious and the large motor feels much stronger and it's very difficult to stop it.
Just like our LEGO motors THE MOTORS in modern electric cars use the stored energy in their battery packs to generate torque. On the other hand internal combustion engines rely on the energy stored in fossil fuels to generate torque.
The key word in the word horsepower is POWER. What is power? Power is the rate at which work is done, in more simple terms power measures how often a certain force is applied over a given period of time. You could even call power = activity. It measures how many times you can repeat the same action over a given period of time.
This means that torque is influenced by only one factor - the amount of rotational force
But horsepower is influenced by two factors - the amount of force and how many times that force can be exerted over a given period of time.
Now we're going to attach these blocks onto the shafts of our Lego motors so that we can more easily observe how fast each of them rotates.
As you can see the small motor actually rotates faster that the large motor. In fact over the period of one minute the small motor makes 275 rotations while the large motor makes only 146 rotations. This means that although it can't generate as much torque as the large motor, the small motor applies it's torque at a greater rate over the same period of time.
This means that while torque can be both felt and observed horsepower cannot be felt in the same sense. If we put our fingers against the shaft we're feeling the torque, we're feeling the force against our fingers. When we're sitting inside a car and the car accelerates we're again feeling the force pushing us against the seat. We can only feel the amount of force, and because torque is only a force we can feel it. But horsepower isn't only a force, it's a measure of the rate of force. In the case of engines and motors it is the amount of rotational force or torque multiplied by rotations per minute or rpm.
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@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
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@akumaquik
@akumaquik 3 жыл бұрын
FORCED INDCUTION MOTORS in your example was a bad idea.
@akumaquik
@akumaquik 3 жыл бұрын
Damn you again with anothr bad example. The guy on the left can generate alot more force in a static position then the guy on the right. The guy on the right is just fatbuff. the guy on the left easily reps 3 plates on the bench and is only bested by the fat guys potential momentum. Which is likely only another 125lbs if they are the same height.
@biggusdickus9809
@biggusdickus9809 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining this stuff bro
@kpviejo1039
@kpviejo1039 3 жыл бұрын
Wala and the the team will also have the same problem with with
@rausb460
@rausb460 3 жыл бұрын
Amazon Link for Nissan GT-R?
@blackness010
@blackness010 3 жыл бұрын
"Newton meters confuse you?" Me: yes "It can be also explained in foot pounds" Me: dafaq
@maratwaliyev9694
@maratwaliyev9694 3 жыл бұрын
in russian: " dha-nu-nakhoy!" )))
@danielfrain3521
@danielfrain3521 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@shaneshannon6874
@shaneshannon6874 3 жыл бұрын
It can me measured in, ugga-duggas too....
@johndough9187
@johndough9187 3 жыл бұрын
That would be foot pounds (force), not foot pounds (mass).
@inorite4553
@inorite4553 3 жыл бұрын
@@johndough9187 Hey you with the Dynamics!....we don't need your kind in the Newtonian Mechanics here.
@inorite4553
@inorite4553 3 жыл бұрын
As a Mechanical Engineer, I cannot believe you just explained the conceptual difference between Torque and HorsePower better than EVERY SINGLE professor I've ever had!
@mediumfast
@mediumfast 3 жыл бұрын
@@Excludos what did he skip over? It seems pretty competitive to me
@ZiegenMeisterV1
@ZiegenMeisterV1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mediumfast with the right gear ratio the the more powerful sportscar engine would accelerate the truck faster than the truck engine.
@leeowen4989
@leeowen4989 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZiegenMeisterV1 No it wouldn't, the GRS905 gearbox that Scania uses for the truck in the video already has 14 gears crammed in it with the 1st gear ratio being around 16:1 for an output torque of around 40000Nm. The Nissan engine would need a 1st gear ratio of 63:1 just to get the truck to move. A simpler explanation of the relationship between power and torque is power determines how fast you can go, torque determines how fast you can accelerate/how much mass you can pull.
@uNki23
@uNki23 3 жыл бұрын
@@leeowen4989 one thing that I never understood though... diesel cars tend to have way more torque than petrol cars, yet often need more time from 0-60. how come?
@leeowen4989
@leeowen4989 3 жыл бұрын
@@uNki23 It is usually because diesel engines can't rev as high as petrol engines and also rely heavily on a turbocharger. That said though, modern diesels are much more refined and are just as capable as petrol with much better fuel efficiency.
@Simon-fg8iz
@Simon-fg8iz Жыл бұрын
One important additional difference to note is, that TORQUE CAN BE CHANGED by a GEARBOX - you can trade rotational speed for torque or vice-versa. But power is conserved - no gearbox can make power out of nothing. This is essential, and why we have transmission in the first place. You could pull a truck with a Nissan engine, you would just need a low range gearbox.
@torevenheim9607
@torevenheim9607 Жыл бұрын
Yes but that Truck will move very slowly
@cubanamerican22
@cubanamerican22 Жыл бұрын
@@torevenheim9607 and the transmission would be bigger than the engine lol
@shantanupathak6701
@shantanupathak6701 Жыл бұрын
Is this on the lines of what Archimedes said? "If you give me a lever and a place to stand, I can move the world. "
@Simon-fg8iz
@Simon-fg8iz Жыл бұрын
@@shantanupathak6701 Exactly like that, gears are just circular levers. The same works for belt drive.
@1malikalik
@1malikalik Жыл бұрын
​@@Simon-fg8iz Thanks SIMON. That makes more sense now. I own a 2008 SCION TC with a 4cyl 2.4L and it's very torquey and they are known for that. Over the years I have driven cars with Bigger Engines most commonly the 3.4L and they didn't feel no where near my TC but now I understand the Low Range Transmission vastly improves Torque performance. Meaning 2 Cars with SAME EXACT ENGINE Size can have 2 Varying TORQUE Ratings due to the Gearing Ratio. A Corolla with 2.4L feels sluggish versus my SCION TC with the same exact Engine. Makes Sense now. Thanks again Simon
@Astronopolis
@Astronopolis Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of those great scientific industrial films from the 1950s, one in particular explains how differential steering works in a car with models, demonstrations, and illustrations. Also the MST3k shorts with industrial films are a pretty good watch too!
@someonejustsomeone1469
@someonejustsomeone1469 Жыл бұрын
Bet you're thinking of the Chevrolet promo from the 1930s.
@FaceySmile
@FaceySmile Жыл бұрын
I've seen that one too!
@irabucc469
@irabucc469 Жыл бұрын
I think Ive watched that as well, does it start with something like a cross bar and gradually evolve into a gear used on differentials
@TBaybe-xj8rb
@TBaybe-xj8rb Жыл бұрын
U
@cybersteel8
@cybersteel8 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, you weren't kidding, this is actually a really good explanation. You really didn't mess around with any other fluff, you got to the point and explained it with brilliant visual demonstrations. Well done.
@_baller
@_baller 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it impressed some random person on KZfaq
@rockymountainlifeprospecti4423
@rockymountainlifeprospecti4423 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely rare these days,(keeping it real) well done on the video, I'm learning a different to explain it better to customers and friends with better terminology.
@CASHgin
@CASHgin 2 жыл бұрын
True that!
@lambonasty
@lambonasty Жыл бұрын
Borderlands and cars. 👊🏻
@cybersteel8
@cybersteel8 Жыл бұрын
@@lambonasty Hell yeah bruv, gotta catch a ride!
@korycooke2987
@korycooke2987 3 жыл бұрын
4:13 *D4A* “The key word in the word horsepower is...” *Me, an intellectual* “Horse!” *D4A* “Power!” *Me* “...”
@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@thromboid
@thromboid 3 жыл бұрын
Seems funny to use the term "horsepower" but not "waterwheeltorque". :)
@-na-nomad6247
@-na-nomad6247 3 жыл бұрын
same, except I'm not an intellectual.
@ehb403
@ehb403 3 жыл бұрын
@@thromboid I don't see it. Horse power = calculated average maximum power exerted based on observation of (wait for it...) horses. The horses were turning a mill (if memory serves), yet we don't call it "mill power". Torque is a measurement calibrated by exerting a known force at a known distance (typically by suspending a reference weight along a beam of measured length). The "brake" or "water wheel" is just a measuring tool to apply this calibration to an observation.
@thromboid
@thromboid 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehb403 Don't mind me - I'm just being snooty. :) I've no quibble with horsepower as a unit (other than not being SI) - what seems strange is using it to refer generically to the physical quantity, instead of simply "power" or "mechanical power". If it's referring to a particular test procedure then that specificity is useful.
@tlr-nut7275
@tlr-nut7275 Жыл бұрын
I always like to think of it applied to a gym workout. Torque is how much your max bench press is. Horsepower is how much weight you lifted over a time period( say, 1,000 kg in 60 seconds). Someone benching 100kg 10 times in 60 seconds is the same Horsepower as someone benching 200kg 5 times in 60 seconds. The second guy has twice the torque, but half the speed. Same horsepower.
@Jocelyn-Blzr
@Jocelyn-Blzr 7 ай бұрын
thanks gymbro i understand it now
@4fgaming925
@4fgaming925 4 ай бұрын
@@Jocelyn-Blzr same lol
@acechima7525
@acechima7525 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for Dude-Bro insight for the dude bros
@danielbatista8760
@danielbatista8760 Жыл бұрын
Easily comprehendible, honestly horsepower was one of the concepts that I couldn't wrap my head around. Now am familiar with it I'll have to think about it more but at least I'll know how to think about. Thank you for the video
@robwoodring9437
@robwoodring9437 Жыл бұрын
Left to my own devices I'd have defined 'horsepower' with the actual definition of torque before seeing this video. Sometimes the KZfaq algorithm does good things like feeding my idle curiosity about how stuff works, and now I know better than I did yesterday.
@BlueRice
@BlueRice 11 ай бұрын
think about weight ratio too. think about gearing that manipulate torque. his other video is good but HP and torque is the hardest to explain. also, not everyone understand it fully - reason i said fully because this is why car manufacture have races and time laps base on certain requirement.
@mustangstuff7213
@mustangstuff7213 8 күн бұрын
Well yeah, it's hard to wrap your head around PRECISELY because horsepower a useless bullshit metric. All power is generated in the engine. Measured in torque. Higher RPM, for any given torque value, gives you more so-called "horsepower". Ok, that's fine, but that's useless information. Because if I want to go faster, I change the gears. Thus: I'll take the 300ft/lbs 100HP motor over the 100ft/lbs 300hp motor every time.
@mustangstuff7213
@mustangstuff7213 8 күн бұрын
​@@robwoodring9437Yep. Car marketing over the decades has convinced everyone that HP is power. When in fact, it's torque that matters. The HP number is usually bigger. So they market with it.
@Stuey105
@Stuey105 Күн бұрын
@@mustangstuff7213You’ve got it backwards. Gearboxes negate the need for high engine torque, not horsepower. You can use gearing to make the torque to the wheels whatever you want. That won’t change the work the engine is capable of doing. With gearing appropriate for both and the same car body, a 300hp/100ftlb engine will out accelerate a 100hp/300ftlb every single time and it’s not even close.
@udubdave
@udubdave 3 жыл бұрын
I love how this video gets straight to the point. Doesn't have a long intro or some history lesson to artificially make the video longer. It's perfect.
@ulysses_grant
@ulysses_grant 2 жыл бұрын
And with no sponsor ads. At least, not YET. lol!
@alanartwww
@alanartwww 2 жыл бұрын
This video actually perpetuates a lot of myths about torque and its importance.
@ulysses_grant
@ulysses_grant 2 жыл бұрын
@@alanartwww Make your point then, please.
@philithegamer8265
@philithegamer8265 2 жыл бұрын
@@ulysses_grant Here LOL _kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apeSYL19mty3nZeS.html
@alanartwww
@alanartwww 2 жыл бұрын
@@ulysses_grant an engine's pulling power is related to its horsepower, not torque, this is proven when you see a gas turbine competition tractor do a full pull, gas turbines are low torque high RPM engines.
@benshattock4945
@benshattock4945 3 жыл бұрын
Love the use of Eddie Hall representing the truck😂
@doid3r4s
@doid3r4s 8 ай бұрын
I think it might be helpful to think about the electrical analogue of Torque and RPM as Voltage and Current, respectively. In both cases the product of the two results in Power. Voltage and Torque are what you need to overcome electrical resistance or mechanical friction, while current and RPM are the time dependent concepts that help you deliver high Power once you overcame the initial barrier. Maybe the analogy would be more accurate when you think about increasing voltage in order to create a dielectric breakdown to get the current flowing. I think this is very similar to using torque to make the wheels start spinning when you have a heavy load or are in a very inclined slope.
@darylloth3237
@darylloth3237 Жыл бұрын
GREAT explanatory video! Part of the additional torque of a diesel engine is due to the greater radius of the crank where the large end of connecting rod is exerting force. It's like accelerating a bicycle with longer pedal arms. You will generate more torque at the center axis of the crank using the same "pushing" force against the pedal while using a longer pedal arm (or pedal crank). A greater crank radius will require longer connecting rods because the distance travelled transversely at the big end is greater and you don't want too great an angle between the connecting rod where it meets the bottom of the piston. A larger diameter crank increases the compression ratio which is higher in a diesel engine (usually 14:1 to 25:1) than in a gasoline engine (8:1 to 12:1). There's plenty more information out there about how diesels differ from gasoline engines.
@bigpharmasports9120
@bigpharmasports9120 Жыл бұрын
so that would explain lower rpms i guess....with longer connecting rods, its harder for a big engine to rotate that quickly....granted im in medicine, very little car knowledge
@frnkjones40
@frnkjones40 Жыл бұрын
But doesn't it also take more power to over come a longer stroke? A small combustion chamber would fizzle out right? I believe this is the reason why framing nail guns have huge heads versus the small ones on a trim gun
@dbn-wb8vd
@dbn-wb8vd 9 ай бұрын
The only correction required here is, that compression ratio is independent of both connecting rod length and crank radius. Its limited/chosen in each type of engine based on many other factors.
@mapron1
@mapron1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not an English speaker, I'm not even a car driver. I also never played with lego engines. Despite that all, I was able to get all the explanations, so that's probably a sign of a good content. p.s. I was good at physics at school, but forget most of it and did not study it for like... 15 years already.
@SeriousApache
@SeriousApache 3 жыл бұрын
"Newton meters confuse you?" Me: "No, it is pretty self-explanatory" "It can be also explained in foot pounds" Me: "Well now they do"
@SirGeldi
@SirGeldi 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the same :) But it is pretty much force lever. He should have said pounds foot to make it less irritating. This is also a good explanation kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q5N9e5eky5vcm40.html
@andreasfrost-blade4689
@andreasfrost-blade4689 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirGeldi except the ftlbs is literally the name of the measurement and to reverse it would be literally incorrect despite it still making sense
@AchOwed
@AchOwed 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreasfrost-blade4689 Yes, the SAE uses foot pounds. Torque is a is the vector cross product of distance multiplied by force and cross products are non-transitive. RxF=-FxR
@gustavramso507
@gustavramso507 2 жыл бұрын
Why I automatically read this in russian accent
@Redtooth75
@Redtooth75 2 жыл бұрын
@@andreasfrost-blade4689 the proper name for torque in SAE is pound feet, it is called pound feet to reduce confusion with foot pound which is a unit or energy not torque. But it doesnt really matter because most people say torque in foot pound anyway and the context will tell you whether or not its torque or energy.
@astromankl1
@astromankl1 Жыл бұрын
This is by far the best explanation of the topic i found so far. Excellent. Thank you.
@nme232
@nme232 11 күн бұрын
I can believe how simplified and understandable this explanation is. Well done
@0bzen22
@0bzen22 3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting long stroke versus short stroke, and how power is generated differently. Effect on moving mass, compression, RPM...
@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good video idea, thank you!
@oseh438
@oseh438 3 жыл бұрын
YESSSS this would be great
@AlessandroGenTLe
@AlessandroGenTLe 3 жыл бұрын
@@d4a something along that line was in this video (motorcycle engines): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y9WfqMhozp2XqqM.html
@Churchkey83
@Churchkey83 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that would be a worth while video.
@forcenature2277
@forcenature2277 3 жыл бұрын
@@d4a yes.. you should whack that topic to your next videos. Since lots people almost failed to understand n comparison between those too. Beside between piston n stroker n crankshaft are well related.
@basileczajkowski3236
@basileczajkowski3236 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it took me 25 years to finally understand what the difference is only to be enlightened by Lego. Spectacular video! Thank You!
@glenfoxh
@glenfoxh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 44, and just now learning this, from this video.
@glenfoxh
@glenfoxh 3 жыл бұрын
@J J Not sure about your wording there. But I know what a 69 is. I've been around.
@BigCat553
@BigCat553 2 жыл бұрын
True enlightenment comes from playing with LEGO...
@davidclavijo2
@davidclavijo2 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the DEFINITIVE video on this difference. Absolute gem!
@hammaadsheikh5151
@hammaadsheikh5151 8 күн бұрын
You satisfied a curiosity I've had for a long time! Thankyou so much. Subscribed.
@neomariano1404
@neomariano1404 3 жыл бұрын
"May the torque be with you" -Luke Skyrunner
@mallikarjun27
@mallikarjun27 2 жыл бұрын
correction LUKE SKYROTATOR
@softairferak
@softairferak 2 жыл бұрын
@@mallikarjun27 Luke skyliner
@honestboy4
@honestboy4 2 жыл бұрын
so you will keep spinning rather than moving forward.
@billwhoever2830
@billwhoever2830 3 жыл бұрын
"Newton meters confuse you?" "It can be also explained in footballfield cowfarts"
@vast634
@vast634 3 жыл бұрын
The British use "stones times furlong". However some Americans prefer "ounce times barleycorn"
@YassineELAZMI
@YassineELAZMI 3 жыл бұрын
woa that must be the strngth of like 112 morgan freeman
@JordanForGod
@JordanForGod 3 жыл бұрын
@@YassineELAZMI 😂😂
@keegentilley4116
@keegentilley4116 3 жыл бұрын
You could also simplify it to 43 bald eagles and 8 Donut burgers
@AlMcpherson79
@AlMcpherson79 3 жыл бұрын
@@YassineELAZMI Shut yo face. None of the engines in the world compare to Morgan Freeman. :D
@xUnic31x
@xUnic31x Жыл бұрын
I’ve only heard/know of these physics words back in highschool (I’m a recent college grad now). I had a great physics teacher so I have a basic understanding of what’s going. It’s really interesting to see these concepts in the real life application, ones I can relate to
@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner Жыл бұрын
Many decades ago, I was an apprentice electric traction motor technician. One of my duties was to operate a Thomas Salter brake dynamometer. This contraption had the traction motor under test, attached to a dynamo and a load turbine. The dynamo was wired to a slave motor, which had a 12 inch torque arm attached from its spindle to a set of scales, calibrated in pounds. This contraption was the definitive brake dynamometer, and all readings were recorded as brake horsepower (BHP), as opposed to horsepower (HP). All our traction motors were tested and stamped 22 BHP @ 2,000 RPM / 48 Volts @ 54 Amperes peak load consumption. Power quoted as BHP = Derived from mechanical torque arm acting on a set of scales. (Torque x RPM/ 5,252 = Horsepower). Power quoted as HP = Derived from the electrical output of a driven generator (746 Watts = 1 Horsepower).
@karlsangree4679
@karlsangree4679 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! 67 years old and worked as an automobile mechanic for years... and I finally get it! This was absolutely brilliant. Well done sir.
@markcrowley65
@markcrowley65 3 жыл бұрын
Me also, at 56
@alejandroperez5368
@alejandroperez5368 3 жыл бұрын
For years = for 0.01 years
@DrLoverLover
@DrLoverLover 3 жыл бұрын
Thats horrible.
@keirajones8772
@keirajones8772 Ай бұрын
As someone who’s just learning mechanics, you’ve given me hope. Thank you
@kylecurry6841
@kylecurry6841 2 жыл бұрын
Good analogy, demonstration. For horsepower, when I was a teen, I realized that it was applied "work", and visualized two shipment workers, small guy, and big guy. Small guy used smaller boxes (less weight) to move raw product to packaging, and the big guy, in bigger boxes and units. The small guy was quicker in his payload turn around between runs, but the bigger worker was moving more in one payload. In an hour or so timeframe, they both moved a equal amount of payload, (small guy, advantage by faster rate (RPM), Big guy, advantage by brute strength (TORQUE), while overall "work" (HP) within same margins, boxes = (TRANSMISSION GEARING)
@anascottwelding1761
@anascottwelding1761 2 жыл бұрын
Yer and smaller guys joins wore out faster from more cycles. Like drag cars
@samurainair1
@samurainair1 2 жыл бұрын
excellent analogy
@randolphstead2988
@randolphstead2988 Жыл бұрын
In my teens I had very muscular legs as a defenceman in hockey. At 6'1" and 200 pounds I was faster than smaller, lighter forwards. My legs cycled slower than the legs of shorter players but I was faster because my strides were longer and more powerful.
@drienkm
@drienkm Жыл бұрын
@@anascottwelding1761 Indeed! And a GTR engine would not last long in a heavy truck, even with ideal gearing.
@SamerTabbal
@SamerTabbal Жыл бұрын
Yes, and if these guys had my asshole boss as their boss, he would accuse the large guy of being lazy and not working hard and would pay the smaller guy more money even though both are doing the same amount of Work.
@robertmeyers9313
@robertmeyers9313 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great demonstration. As a motorcycle rider, I hear lots of debates about this topic. One analogy I use, which demonstrates the difference well IMO. An R6 600cc with 40ft lbs of torque at 12,000 rpm, will make the same torque at the back wheel as a R1 1000cc 80 ft lbs of torque at 6,000 rpm, with both bikes traveling at the same speed. This is why HP is important.
@parsonscarlson7984
@parsonscarlson7984 5 ай бұрын
Riddle me this. In your example in light of the video definition of HP (torque x RPM), the math on both the R6 and the R1 = 480,000 HP. This obviously is no true. Why? I may be bad at math, but I did use a calculator. Appreciate a response.
@robertmeyers9313
@robertmeyers9313 5 ай бұрын
@@parsonscarlson7984 to see the math work we would need a dyno which measures torque at the rw in those conditions.
@motodot.
@motodot. 4 ай бұрын
​@@parsonscarlson7984Horsepower = Torque x RPM / 5,252
@sanjuuppal
@sanjuuppal 3 ай бұрын
Excellent !! Your explanation was superlative !!! My doubts were cleared ..
@MrNordsturm
@MrNordsturm 3 жыл бұрын
But never forget: with great power comes great responsibility
@jhuntosgarage
@jhuntosgarage 3 жыл бұрын
Brakes! ;)
@mr.redneck2715
@mr.redneck2715 3 жыл бұрын
R u kidding???? Rarely will you witness the responsible use of power!!!!
@cirosan28
@cirosan28 3 жыл бұрын
Even when you're in Park(er)... Got you, uncle Ben!
@shapewish
@shapewish 3 жыл бұрын
Horse responsibility
@brunopeixe9903
@brunopeixe9903 3 жыл бұрын
@@jhuntosgarage who brakes lose 🙁
@markcrowley65
@markcrowley65 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 56. This is the first time I have understood this difference. Thanks!
@purplemongoose4887
@purplemongoose4887 3 жыл бұрын
In gearhead terms...Horsepower is how fast you can go. Torque is how fast you can go fast.
@giovannip8600
@giovannip8600 2 жыл бұрын
@@purplemongoose4887 great tip
@alanartwww
@alanartwww 2 жыл бұрын
@@purplemongoose4887 That is wrong.
@Z.E36
@Z.E36 3 ай бұрын
I’ve seen over10000 videos about explaining torque and horsepower, this is first one to make me fully understand🙏
@diogenes9809
@diogenes9809 Жыл бұрын
Something important about the difference between sports and heavy duty engines. The real reason big machines need torquey motors is because they need to use all their horsepower all the time. A crankshaft bearing, camshaft, or cylinder wall can only take so many rotations before things wear out, so machines that need to work all day want to keep their rpms low if they are going to last. The only way to make horsepower at low rpm is by having torque. Fundamentally though, a gtr with the right gearbox could tow a semi trailer faster than that semi can, it will just wear out sooner.
@LiveFromLondon2
@LiveFromLondon2 Жыл бұрын
no, it wont. it wont have enough torque to move the semi. unless it went to 100k revs, which obviously it cant.
@crow__bar
@crow__bar 3 жыл бұрын
"Newton meters confuse you?" "Yah most people don't really know how much force a Newton is" "You can also use foot pounds" *Confused non-american noises*
@___-tp1su
@___-tp1su 3 жыл бұрын
A foot is roughly about a third of a meter. A pound is a bit less than half of a kg.
@TheLifeLaVita
@TheLifeLaVita 3 жыл бұрын
@@___-tp1su it doesn't change the fact that is still a force and a distance so it didn't make anything clearer by changing it. If someone doesn't know that a meter is a distance then they shouldn't be here in the first place don't you think?
@___-tp1su
@___-tp1su 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLifeLaVita I don't understand what you're saying, I'm a little confused
@TheLifeLaVita
@TheLifeLaVita 3 жыл бұрын
@@___-tp1su to make it "easier" to understand, he changed Force and Distance with Force and Distance, so basically changing nothing at all
@___-tp1su
@___-tp1su 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLifeLaVita I guess he did it for Americans. The average American probably doesn't know much about metric units
@tommynobaka
@tommynobaka 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is supreme education. Should be taught in physics
@bluewanderer9903
@bluewanderer9903 3 жыл бұрын
It is taught in physics 😊
@kennethschultz6465
@kennethschultz6465 3 жыл бұрын
Newtons law of motion To moowe 160kg takes 160.1 kg That's why !!! When you (Americans rolig coale) Figur out that it AIN't the black smoke !!and HP in a DISEL But the Newton Meters moovin the truck!! (Funny max DISEL Newton meter is @100/1500RPM dependent on enigen)
@bcatz454
@bcatz454 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, somebody didn't pay attention in school. Yes they teach this in high school physics.
@christophermackley8084
@christophermackley8084 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethschultz6465 What does any of this even mean?
@thebubaloomonkey
@thebubaloomonkey 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethschultz6465 it literally is the HP moving the truck. This is proved by the fact that when shifting at peak torque the truck accelerates slower than when shifting at peak HP.
@alexclose6539
@alexclose6539 Жыл бұрын
Clearest explanation I've seen. Great video!
@youtubeaccount5153
@youtubeaccount5153 Жыл бұрын
“The key word in ‘horsepower’ is ‘power’.” I know many horses that would disagree with that statement.
@macnchillidogs1601
@macnchillidogs1601 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that this video finally made it clear, Donut's video only had me confused.
@Rathbone_fan_account
@Rathbone_fan_account 3 жыл бұрын
Donut is 70% morons screaming nonsense, 30% content.
@waleed172
@waleed172 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rathbone_fan_account nah donut explains for people with more background knowledge
@sam121fisher
@sam121fisher 3 жыл бұрын
@@waleed172 So true! Sometimes I had to pause their video to look for the certain example that they are using to explain the main topic. Donut media videos are for semi-pro people. Not for the beginners.
@SadMarinersFan
@SadMarinersFan 3 жыл бұрын
well maybe if i SCREAM MY POINT AT YOU YOU'D UNDERSTAND! MORE POWER BABY! lIGHTNING LIGHTNING LIGHTNING! AAAAAAHHHHHHH! there you go. summed up every doughnut media video that doesn't have Nolan as the main talking head.
@macnchillidogs1601
@macnchillidogs1601 3 жыл бұрын
@@waleed172 yeah I agree, their videos are entertaining, but it really depends on the person, for me this video made the concept clear, maybe other people understood concept better when they explained it. Not attacking Donut just expressing what I thought.
@TheSleepyCraftsman
@TheSleepyCraftsman 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone that uses Lego comparisons gets a subscriber from me! Doesn't hurt that you gave a great overview as well. 💯👏
@colors6692
@colors6692 3 жыл бұрын
Simp🥱
@haloskaterkid
@haloskaterkid 3 жыл бұрын
Siiimp. What does “a great overview” even mean?
@wrestlingseabas
@wrestlingseabas Жыл бұрын
I hate how nobody stresses that horsepower is the only unit that matters in a vehicle. Higher torque vehicles produce more power at a lower rpm. Theoretically you can tow with that GTR engine but it is impractical due to the fact that you'd sit at 6000 rpm constantly. It's like when turbine engines were becoming popular, they were out producing power-wise and were better in every way except noise and fuel consumption.
@BigTimeWarGamer
@BigTimeWarGamer 11 ай бұрын
For the majority people this is true if you want a fast daily driver, however if you tow anything knowing the torque can be just as important as to know the efficiency of that engine; I'd rather have a vehicle sit at 2000rpms rather than on redline going down the highway with a trailer hooked up to me
@iamthepotato4312
@iamthepotato4312 10 ай бұрын
The only time high horse power is relevant is for track/drag racing or if your lucky enough to have roads with no speed limits, but for everyday driving about the streets/highways having a high horse power car is pointless, you would need to be driving around doing 100mph+ to actually use all the power available, at least with diesels you get to play with all the power as most fade off around 100mph-ish and driving faster than that on public roads is a bit stupid and doing more than a 100mph here in the uk is usually an automatic ban if caught, high horse powered cars are the same as high end PCs, pointless if you can't use it to its full potential.
@polar_inertia
@polar_inertia 9 ай бұрын
you're not very bright are you?
@rosskj9187
@rosskj9187 9 ай бұрын
Low RPM high Torque figures are only relevant in towing because you are producing more Power at Lower RPM which is more efficient in that use case due to all sorts of factors including angular velocities, clutches, fuel consumption, reliability, rotational and dynamic mass etc. Truck engines have to be strong due to the forces required in order to move large masses therefore it isn't reliable to use a lightweight sports car engine that revs high due to its lightweight components (not as strong) in order to produce its Power Output thus transferring huge angular velocities into the drive train to move huge masses at lower speeds, it doesn't make sense. Higher torque values at lower RPMs can make daily driving regular vehicles easier due to not having to rev the engine for Power however Torque values are meaningless unless the RPM at which the Torque is produced at is explicitly stated otherwise it is a utterly meaningless value and you may aswell just state the Power figure at that given RPM anyway because that is more meaningful since to understand the Work Done you have to do the calculation of Torque x RPM/5252 and hey you get Power. Furthermore engine torque is meaningless to the consumer because what is produced goes through a gearbox so your wheel torque is totally different to your engine torque. Torque is only important to a tuner or an engineer to determine the strength or the required strength of components, otherwise all the consumer is interested in is the power at a given RPM. YOU CANNOT FEEL TORQUE IN A CAR ONLY POWER/WORK DONE. The best analogy I can personally come up with and is relevant to this is if you tighten a bolt to 60Nm with a torque wrench then try to loosen it at 30Nm you get 0RPM therefore 0 work is done, the Bolt goes nowhere, you cannot feel any acceleration force because there is none. To conclude Torque is meaningless without RPM in vehicle performance and with RPM you are left with Power (don't confuse with peak power) which is the only meaningful value. I'm a mechanical engineer and I hope this helps
@polar_inertia
@polar_inertia 9 ай бұрын
@@rosskj9187 shhhhh no one is reading that
@ralfrolfen5504
@ralfrolfen5504 Ай бұрын
Awesome video! After 20 years I finally understood the concept of torque and horsepower! (non-professional)
@tkracing5945
@tkracing5945 3 жыл бұрын
"You can feel Torque but you can't feel Horsepower" *Cries in mazda rx-7*
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 3 жыл бұрын
You can feel the fun
@aestheticswim3397
@aestheticswim3397 3 жыл бұрын
is the rx 8 any good
@like2ROLL
@like2ROLL 3 жыл бұрын
@@aestheticswim3397 good for what?
@Shyfly52
@Shyfly52 3 жыл бұрын
@@aestheticswim3397 no they went very wrong with the engine with the rx-8 I would recommend staying away from it
@maxjones5705
@maxjones5705 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jacobmcinnis8291
@jacobmcinnis8291 3 жыл бұрын
Yet again never disappointed by this guy, so knowledgeable and always makes it easy to understand
@theohaukes767
@theohaukes767 Жыл бұрын
I love your explanation, I've finally found that one video explaining this with words! Also, your accent is super fun to listen to 😅
@peterhinton
@peterhinton 5 ай бұрын
Outstanding! This is the first time I’ve understood these concepts. Thank you!
@catacoolboy2
@catacoolboy2 3 жыл бұрын
This video is pure genius. I've seen so many people having no idea how to make this distinction.
@MakisPapasPlus
@MakisPapasPlus 3 жыл бұрын
"You can feel Torque but you can't feel Horsepower" *But it's VTEC yooo*
@pleasedontwatchthese9593
@pleasedontwatchthese9593 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with him on that. You can only feel horse power. You have to apply torque over time to feel it. We can't experience things in infinity small amounts of time. It's like saying you can eat a cheese burger without the cheese. It's not a cheese burger till you have both.
@cIappo896
@cIappo896 2 жыл бұрын
@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 horsepower isn't an observable force like torque. It's a measurement of work done. You feel force, not work. It's like saying you can feel time passing. That kick you feel when you step on the gas is the difference in velocity between you and the car as the structure of those 2 things isn't rigid, but independent. It's applied torque.
@vladmitrache6373
@vladmitrache6373 2 жыл бұрын
"You can feel torque but you can't feel horsepower" Horses worldwide would like to disagree
@disco.jellyfish
@disco.jellyfish 2 жыл бұрын
@@cIappo896 Actually its applied force, waht you feel. Tourque is actually the same thing as Energy. How much force is being experienced depends on the length of the lever that applies the force. Lets got talking about transmissions. In First gear a gear connected to your engine will spin another very big gear. the Force applied near to the inside of the Gear gets applied to the outside of the other gear. If these two gears fight against each other the Smaller gear would have an advantage because moving a long lever requires less force than moving a small lever. You just need a long arm or walk in order to spin a little wheel in any meaningful way with a very long lever. If your lever was shorter you wouldnt have to move as much, but you'd need to apply more force to get the same amount of tourque. Shifting upwards into second gear will put your small gear against a not as big gear. The 2nd gear will spin faster due to its smaller size since you can move lets say 100 teeth/s because it has less teeth than the first gear. But the lever isnt as long anymore so it doesnt have as big of a tourque advantage anymore compared to what it had in the first gear. Thats why you have less acceleration in higher and higher gears. You might have a higher top speed but you cant accelerate as fast in higher gears anymore. If you'd made the engine spin faster however at some point it will fly apart, which is why there are rev limiters so they can prevent this flying apart part. Your theoretical top speed is only determained by three factors: Transmission length (longer transmission = more top speed; less acceleration), max RPM (higher max RPM = more top speed; more power; more acceleration; less durable) and wheel size (larger radius = more top speed; less acceleration). The FORCE applied to the ground depends on what transmission length you have and how much tourque your engine produces. If the force stopping you from going faster (such as wind force or just friction in general) is greater than the force you apply, you can no longer accelerate. Mass is not directly a factor - but mass does affect friction but also increases grip, which increases applyable tourque - so mass cancels out - downforce through a spoiler doesnt - thats why racecars use wings instead of extra mass). Mass does not influence your top speed if your tourque is always as much as physicall possible (so much that your wheels dont start to do a burnout). A burnout means that the force applied is bigger than the applyable force for the grip you have. The friction which is supposed to help you propell is being overcome, this causing your wheels to spin without your car getting accelerated. You do not feel the tourque. You only feel the force. Force is whatever is at some point by the lever. You can feel it very easily by using a nutcracker. Cracking the nut with your bare hands is rather difficult - for some even impossible. Put it into the nutcracker, grab it by the ends of the two levers and push the levers together. Quite easy if you ask me. The force applied by your hands is exactly the same. The force, which cracked the nut was a lot bigger. Depending on the lever length. If the lever was lets say 6 units long and the crack chamber was 1 unit away from the spin center, the force experienced was multiplied by 6/1, which is 6. So if you applied lets say 6Nm of tourque you applied that because you applied 1N of force on a 6m lever. 1*6=6. The Nut experienced 6N because the same tourque applies to all levers 6Nm of tourque means 6N of force at 1m distance from center. It would have felt 24N at 25cm from the center and so on. Meaning: If you had a REALLY long lever you could make the earth stop spinning when you stand at a solid location, which is not attatched to earth. The lever just needs to be able to carry out this much force down on earth because theres gonna be a lot of force. So good luck building that lever.
@pleasedontwatchthese9593
@pleasedontwatchthese9593 2 жыл бұрын
@@cIappo896 Time is how you use torque. It's not like its left out, its just part of a bigger picture.
@oussamakholtei3591
@oussamakholtei3591 Жыл бұрын
I've always wondered what's the difference but no video made me really understand better than your way. It was clear, educating and easy to get. Thank you
@Kurogane_Hikaru
@Kurogane_Hikaru 3 жыл бұрын
This video isn't what i've searched for, i just opened KZfaq and it was here, and since i was very confused on how they acted, i clicked it. Thanks for the explanation~
@-na-nomad6247
@-na-nomad6247 3 жыл бұрын
So basically, a gearbox is a device to control how much torque is being output by the driveshaft.
@spamtes
@spamtes 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, half true. a gearbox is also needed to spin the wheels slower or faster than the engine speed. Since the engine has a maximum power (torque x speed) the gearbox can increase torque by sacrificing wheel speed (HIGH TORQUE x low speed) or, increase wheel speed by sacrificing torque (low torque x HIGH SPEED)
@-na-nomad6247
@-na-nomad6247 3 жыл бұрын
@@spamtes yes that's what I meant, just did not elaborate enough. Thank you for the completion.
@EndstyleGG
@EndstyleGG 3 жыл бұрын
@@spamtes So theoretically you could use the GTR engine in a truck (since it has actually more horsepower at 7k rpm), but you would have to have a transmission decrease the rotations dramatically to get the same (or higher) torque as the truck? Could you also do the inverse and use the truck engine in the car and have the transmission speed up the rotations and with that decrease torque?
@nveresdf
@nveresdf 3 жыл бұрын
@@EndstyleGG Sort of. If both engines had constant horsepower then you would be right, since lowering RPM would necessarily increase torque. In reality, torque and horsepower are dependent on RPM (search for engine power curve or torque curve) and throttle, so the figures which are usually shown for engines are peak torque and peak horsepower at full throttle. Also, if you're searching for these curves and happen to find both for a same engine, notice how peak power doesn't occur at the same RPM as peak torque (usually).
@jnawk83
@jnawk83 3 жыл бұрын
@@EndstyleGG look up truck racing.
@nijah_r
@nijah_r 5 күн бұрын
Oh my God this video is PERFECT, THANK YOU!!!!
@vongdong10
@vongdong10 Жыл бұрын
Always had a hard time understanding how horsepower is measured but understand now, thanks
@virtual_bomber5698
@virtual_bomber5698 Жыл бұрын
Very simply, I always put it as Torque = how much weight you can pull HP= how fast you can pull the weight (or, also, how fast you can accelerate the weight)
@KindaSus666
@KindaSus666 Жыл бұрын
I always put it as hp is how fast you hit a wall and torque is how far you push that wall 😂
@dudejo
@dudejo Жыл бұрын
Personally, I like to think of it as Torque = performance in Gear 1 and at cruising speeds. That's when the engine isn't generating maximum HP and where you'll feel the difference.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 Жыл бұрын
Right, because horsepower is force times speed, and torque is essentially force. (Technically, force times distance from the centre of rotation, but the main point here is the force.)
@Lmomjian
@Lmomjian Жыл бұрын
thanks, that is useful
@AndreiSZS
@AndreiSZS Жыл бұрын
Toque is irrelevant. HP tells you everything. That's the proper explanaition.
@andoletube
@andoletube 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good explanation. I think the only thing missing is the effect of gear ratios being torque multipliers.
@Karjis
@Karjis 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, you can create double torque just with having speed halving gearing and power stays exactly the same if we just ignorre small gearing losses to simplify things.
@kevinbuhler8776
@kevinbuhler8776 3 жыл бұрын
@@Karjis I was thinking the same thing. Using gear ratios to reduce the rpm at the tire (using a vehicle as an example) you can get the same amount of torque applied to the ground as a much larger engine.
@hamsterama
@hamsterama 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbuhler8776 An even better example is a bicycle. You can see the transmission (it's called a cassette), so it's a great way to understand gear ratios. In a lower gear, the gear size is bigger. One turn of the pedals might make gear 1 make one rotation. Gear 1 is terrible for speed, but it's great for power, such as just starting off, or going up a hill. Compare that, to say, gear 7 (I'm using that because it's my bike's highest gear). Gear 7 is visibly smaller, and makes many rotations with one turn of the pedals. It's great for cruising along in a straight line fast. But you'll terribly hurt your knees if you don't move to a lower gear if you need to go slower, or if you're going up a hill. In fact, for anyone who's interested in learning to drive a manual car, I would recommend to them that they first play around with the gears on a bike. It makes learning to drive stick much easier, because they will better understand the concept of low versus high gears.
@adrianrhoden8310
@adrianrhoden8310 3 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterama Brilliant
@kdh6387
@kdh6387 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, on max power RPM and at full throttle, with proper transmission gearing, more max hp = more tq at the wheels, only horsepower number matters.
@broodingtree2014
@broodingtree2014 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, thank you for spending the time to make it.
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 3 жыл бұрын
45 years ago we had a motorcycle dyno that used a jet engine starter/generator to heat coils, wasting the power as heat. So we got a voltage and amperage reading, multiplied them to get watts, _and then divided by 746 to get horsepower._ We already had the SI unit, but didn't know it, and everyone knows horsepower in the USA.
@ABVISHEKRAJ
@ABVISHEKRAJ 3 жыл бұрын
Respect
@Donyce19
@Donyce19 3 жыл бұрын
Best Horsepower vs Torque video I've ever seen. Well done
@Novabeagle
@Novabeagle 3 ай бұрын
this actually really helped not just explain torque but why small engines can get such high rmp's that equal trucks
@FunnyHorse-dn5pw
@FunnyHorse-dn5pw 7 күн бұрын
What a video man that's amazing I appreciate it 👍🏻💯
@danybeam
@danybeam 3 жыл бұрын
When he started explaining horsepower and saying "the key word being..." my dumb ass went "aha! HORSE!"
@Scion15
@Scion15 2 жыл бұрын
Same, I thought he was going to explain why it's called horsepower lol.
@johnnys1901
@johnnys1901 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I never really totally understood the difference between the two until now. Even after watching many different videos from engineering channels. Thanks!
@integrantedavidanoturna
@integrantedavidanoturna 5 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the Lego explanations!
@WHALEx3
@WHALEx3 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video about TOOWARK. Before this video, TOOWARK, was hard for me to understand. Thank you for explaining TOOWARK.
@danshavit4510
@danshavit4510 3 жыл бұрын
Took me 30 years but now I got it. Thanks
@frederic6998
@frederic6998 2 жыл бұрын
so what si a horsepower ?
@murdg4
@murdg4 2 жыл бұрын
I barely comment on videos but here I’m compelled to express how amazing this explanation is. Unbelievably detailed and yet understandable. Can’t wait until my kid is old enough to watch this and more of your videos 👍🏾
@shautohaus
@shautohaus Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever understood this concept as clearly as after watching this 8 minute video. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@sillysad3198
@sillysad3198 3 жыл бұрын
this video beats all traditional educational movies by a landslide.
@ulpo44
@ulpo44 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic instructional video!. I'm a mechanical engineer with 20+ yrs professional experience,... And I've never seen a better 'down to earth' explanation of power vs torque. Well done 👍
@Jakedegaye
@Jakedegaye Ай бұрын
So well taught!!! At this rate of learning,I could be a mechanical engineering by the end of the weekend
@arunkmr
@arunkmr 4 ай бұрын
I have never found a better KZfaq channel than this.
@michaeletzel4877
@michaeletzel4877 2 жыл бұрын
6:20 When a car accelerates there is no force pushing you into the the seat, but there is a force pushing the seat into you. The car is being forced to accelerate, but the passengers (as independent, relatively stationary masses with respect to the car) just happen to be in the way as the car is pushing against them. From our perspective it feels like we're being "pushed into the seat" but if you think about it, it makes sense that the car is actually pushing against you, because the engine also needs to accelerate you to the speed of the car and all of its components.
@ziwuri
@ziwuri 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure both are happening.
@zakpodo
@zakpodo Жыл бұрын
To out pedant you- it depends on your reference frame. Both are ultimately correct and identical.
@fidztshuma1986
@fidztshuma1986 Жыл бұрын
for every applied force, there is an equal reaction in the opposite direction
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis Жыл бұрын
technically gravity is pushing you into the seat, but to out pedant myself apparently gravity isn't an actual force. So there's that I guess.
@rainyprac
@rainyprac Жыл бұрын
@@Obi-WanKannabis Well thanks to inertia you want to follow the straight line in space-time which would bring you into the seat and curving towards the center of earths gravity. It's the normal force from the seat that constantly pushes you off that path.
@JazzbLu
@JazzbLu 3 жыл бұрын
I have watched numerous videos explaining horsepower and torque. I kind-of got it. After this video, I completely understand. All of the videos, including this one, have the same information. It is just how it is explained. Thank you again D4A!
@Chilinda_GA
@Chilinda_GA Жыл бұрын
Wow, perfect explanation! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@Tony-bored-dane
@Tony-bored-dane Ай бұрын
This was very well explained thank you
@amansaleh5946
@amansaleh5946 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's also worth pointing out that gearing can be used to compensate for a lack of torque. That is to say that, theoretically, two cars with vastly different torque, but the same horsepower, could accelerate/pull with the same force if the gear ratios are scaled. For this reason, you can roughly compare how two vehicles of similar weight can accelerate based on horsepower alone (e.g., mustangs and camaros with equivalent transmissions have nearly identical acceleration times with very different torque, but nearly identical horsepower). I say theoretically because the engine with more torque will probably have heavier engine and transmission components, more inertia, etc., and will be slower to rev up with no load. Add in that the shape of the power curves, gearing, drive line losses, etc. will probably not perfectly line up, and you get a bit of a mess. Now, another benefit of using horsepower as a metric is it tells you when, for any given car, you should be shifting to achieve maximum acceleration. And that moment occurs when the power at a given RPM is equal to what power will be at the new RPM after completion of the shift (assuming of course that you do not get valve float first 👀, in which case, that's when you want to shift lol).
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis Жыл бұрын
This video only refers to torque at the crank, which is simplified for the general audience. A sports car can have a high revving engine, which enables higher gear ratios, which multiply the torque, so there is more torque at the wheels than at the crank.
@drienkm
@drienkm Жыл бұрын
@@Obi-WanKannabis Yeah. I wish people wouldn't try to make that simplification. A person isn't really understanding what power is in a vehicle until they see that it isn't altered by the choice of gear, while torque and rpm are altered dramatically and inversely. Then you see that at every speed, power is related directly to thrust (unless there is a burning smell;)
@forloop7713
@forloop7713 Жыл бұрын
@@Obi-WanKannabis All cars have more torque at the wheels than at the crank.
@forloop7713
@forloop7713 Жыл бұрын
@@drienkm I will also note that as the car accelerates it shifts into higher gears so the propuslive force from the wheels is less, but since the velocity is higher the horsepower remains the same
@Obi-WanKannabis
@Obi-WanKannabis Жыл бұрын
@@forloop7713 Yes, but gear ratios multiply it differently, if your car revs to 9000 rpm you're going to multiply that torque more than if it revs to 6000.
@TheSoundsnake
@TheSoundsnake 3 жыл бұрын
Torque at the wheels are important for acceleration, you simply need F (force). F=m*a Using gears you can change the amount of force (torque) applied to the wheels, but you won’t change the hp output at the wheels. More torque, but less frequent, lineair relationship! Pull away in 1st gear: goes pretty fast with any car (wheel spin=maximum force you can apply!). But acceleration becomes worse while shifting up, in any car. Only those with huge amounts of torque quickly accelerate in high gear, but still slower than in lower gear. Side note: torque and power curves drop above a certain rpm, mostly because of a combination of starvation (can’t pump enough air in through the inlets), resistance (pump out exhaust gasses, mechanical friction), valves that can’t cope with the quick opening and closing, and simply too high forces on crankshaft and pistons which will make the engine disintegrate. Otherwise, more rpm would result in more hp.
@maddeningmonk9585
@maddeningmonk9585 3 жыл бұрын
What about some cars where the hp curve keep going up till redline?
@benfennell6842
@benfennell6842 3 жыл бұрын
@@maddeningmonk9585 good engineering to get around the listed issues with running at high rpm, see : double overhead cams/4 valve cylinders well ported heads higher conpression etc. A well engineered engine can maintain its torque at very high rpms, just look a formula 1. Or just lower the redline lol
@maddeningmonk9585
@maddeningmonk9585 3 жыл бұрын
@@benfennell6842 i mean some cars for example make peak power at 6500rpm and peak torque at 2000rpm. Their power curve will keep in climbing till the red line. The torque will gradually decline but the power will keep on increasing till redline. I'm talking about normal everyday Street cars and not f1 or other vehicles. I don't want to call f1 cars because they ugly as fuck
@benfennell6842
@benfennell6842 3 жыл бұрын
@@maddeningmonk9585 lol
@robertmerced7529
@robertmerced7529 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I’ve never heard this explained so clearly. Thanks!
@vijayjesudassan9605
@vijayjesudassan9605 20 күн бұрын
Fantastic explanation of a conplex subject!
@TheRoadhammer379
@TheRoadhammer379 3 жыл бұрын
As a former powerlifter, the Eddie Hall image vs the body builder is perfect. The body builder is endurance(horsepower), the powerlifter is explosive short term strength(torque). The body builder cannot deadlift 1000lbs but can deadlift 100lbs for more reps, because of the way each respective man's muscles are trained. Excellent video, thank you.
@DartTyler
@DartTyler 3 жыл бұрын
Me to wife: - See, honey? Larger isn't always better...
@teguhpribadi7169
@teguhpribadi7169 3 жыл бұрын
larger but flabby isn't good. smaller but hard as rock is good. and if possible, LARGER YET HARDER IS BETTER.
@randomnickify
@randomnickify 3 жыл бұрын
Tell it to your Postman :)
@dictatoroblitorator1115
@dictatoroblitorator1115 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomnickify oof
@khiladi3409
@khiladi3409 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I really hate sports cars, I love those heavy trucks ad coach buses.
@denbambang1738
@denbambang1738 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA SMOL!
@sannyassi73
@sannyassi73 9 ай бұрын
Very good job of explaining the difference! Bravo! Sub earned!
@nealsonf
@nealsonf Жыл бұрын
Great demonstration! Thank you!
@stevewyatt9809
@stevewyatt9809 3 жыл бұрын
It might have been worth mentioning that the torque generated by the truck engine is not only due to larger cylinder volume and piston diameter resulting in greater reciprocal force through combustion but equally important is the greater distance of the crank throw from the point of rotation creating a leverage effect for that force to act upon. It would have tied nicely into your example of torque measurement using the 1 metre lever bar on the bolt with the applied force.
@nathanwieling7943
@nathanwieling7943 Жыл бұрын
Another wrinkle with Diesel engines is that the fuel itself contains more energy than gasoline. A second difference to consider is that gasoline is more explosive, whereas diesel burns and becomes more explosive under pressure. When detonation occurs, gasoline goes out with a bang. Detonation with a Diesel engine is a slower explosion which pushes on the piston longer than a gasoline detonation. This is also a contributing factor for why Diesel engines generate more torque than an equivalent gasoline engine. It is also a reason why Diesel engines don’t rev as high as gasoline engines, the slower burn creates a cap on how high your engine revs can be before your engine would outrun the combustion process.
@krys8494
@krys8494 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanwieling7943 what is the advantage of gasoline then?
@nathanwieling7943
@nathanwieling7943 Жыл бұрын
@@krys8494 Gasoline detonates faster for higher performance applications. Costs less to produce since compressions ratios (air to fuel mixture) are lower than Diesel engines so the engine and its operating parts doesn’t have to be built as heavy duty.
@nathanwieling7943
@nathanwieling7943 Жыл бұрын
@UCLK3WKx3l3Mod5fV-RqenGA my dad had an Ford F700 with a small block gas engine in it years ago. It was slow and and a turtle could out accelerate it! To some extent what you are saying is true about torque, especially when you can add gear reduction, but gear reduction adds weight and complexity which can be a drawback when a diesel can do it better if designed for the specific application. What this boils down to is we need different designs for different applications because a one size fits all approach doesn’t work. Maybe think of horsepower as how eager an engine is to work, and torque is how hard it can work. I could hook up a 30,000 lbs trailer to a truck with 1,000 hp and 500 ft lbs of torque and even though that engine is very eager to rev and accelerate, that 30,000 lbs will temper that eagerness quite a lot. However, a truck with a diesel that has 1,000 ft lbs and 400 hp will have no problem carting that 30,000 lb trailer around and up hills.
@juangarza8006
@juangarza8006 Жыл бұрын
This is a better explanation than the video. Thank you.
@scunnerdarkly4929
@scunnerdarkly4929 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly the best explanation ever. Excellent work as always 👍
@nimbuthecool
@nimbuthecool 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for finally solving this mystery for me
@spdhegde
@spdhegde Ай бұрын
Finally understood torque! Thank you 😊
@gogobnr3291
@gogobnr3291 3 жыл бұрын
I've learned so much from this channel, thank you sincerely.
@zeldarms
@zeldarms 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, honestly. I'm currently doing a mechanics course and every time torque pops up I mentally stall, regardless of how simple it actually is... Thanks so much!
@RoccocoVs
@RoccocoVs Жыл бұрын
This has to be pound for pound the best video on KZfaq
@jogowing5993
@jogowing5993 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm going to share this one with my Dynamics students. :)
@taylorboice
@taylorboice 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a tough time understanding these concepts for a long time a thin cleared it up for me. Thank you!
@SlyNine
@SlyNine Жыл бұрын
And he got it wrong. You do not feel the torque. If the engine doesn't move it doesn't matter how much torque it's producing. It's producing NO power. With the smaller motor you can apply a gear to make them turn at the same rate. What number tells you the force after gearing.. THE HP NUMBER. The work done is what you feel. If you have your finger directly to the shaft you're feeling the POWER of the magnetic forces.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 3 жыл бұрын
7:40 Who runs a Nissan GTR in -22 degree weather?
@Tempest_burf
@Tempest_burf 11 ай бұрын
Lol
@ILoveYou-em9ol
@ILoveYou-em9ol 14 күн бұрын
Very informative video, thank you.
@muqtadakamal9569
@muqtadakamal9569 2 ай бұрын
That was really a great explanation
@CaptainVidiot
@CaptainVidiot 5 ай бұрын
This was soooooo good. I had a sense of the difference, but this really clears it up.
@viveksinha9221
@viveksinha9221 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, you have been able to give a very concise and clear explanation of a parameter which frequently confused both the amateur motor enthusiasts and professional mechanics alike. 👍👍
@riomariucci
@riomariucci 3 жыл бұрын
One of the key things I got from this was: “Eddie Hall is a truck.”
@d4a
@d4a 3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@nicolaigonzalezstoylov3307
@nicolaigonzalezstoylov3307 Ай бұрын
Beautifully explained.
@gerhardimmanuel
@gerhardimmanuel 2 ай бұрын
THE EXPLANATION IS REALLY GOOD, THANK YOU SO MUCHH FOR YOUR EXPLANATION 😸😸
@Vi-pv3xi
@Vi-pv3xi 3 жыл бұрын
Torque: Burst damage Horsepower: Damage per second
@oystersaucy
@oystersaucy 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha🤣 nice comment
@NAmania
@NAmania 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually correct
@Vi-pv3xi
@Vi-pv3xi 2 жыл бұрын
This would work too. Torque: Lift Weight athletes Horsepower: Marathon runners Lift weight athletes can lift heavy loads which probably marathon runners can't do. But marathon runners can burn more energy, have better stamina, and faster speed.
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