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Is Minisforum V3's Most Unique Feature As Good As You Think?

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Күн бұрын

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@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
As a PSA, during the video I mention the theoretical possibility of having a dock/hub that could convert an HDMI signal (or older protocol DP signal) to USB4 or Tb4, the dock that I show during that segment is used as a visual aid but is not a reference of a solution to that effect. That device does not even have DP or HDMI in. If such a solution exists (cable, dock or hub), please do consider sharing a link on this comment for the ones who may be interested in such a product. Cheers!
@dzibanart8521
@dzibanart8521 3 ай бұрын
What you are looking for is a bidirectional HDMI to USBC-C cable, I think.
@dzibanart8521
@dzibanart8521 3 ай бұрын
There are some cables from club3d that do HDMI in to USBC-C out they are more expensive though.
@dzibanart8521
@dzibanart8521 3 ай бұрын
There is also a cheaper alternative of a HDMI Male to USB-C Female Cable Adapter by a company called Elebase
@Uendnsiwurbx11
@Uendnsiwurbx11 3 ай бұрын
I just assumed that the video input would be more flexible than it actually is. I could deal with having the computer turned off, but that it doesn't do 120hz out of the box for every device connected to it is so, so disappointing. For me, the whole point is to connect it to a gaming device while traveling. This was the only review that addressed that feature in depth; thank you so much! Great content. For now, I will wait for a V4 or a deep sale on the V3.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, what I wonder at all is if the board that handles the v-input notion is firmware upgradeable, be it through bios, Windows or whatever else. Someone said they had a firmware update that enabled video input into Windows to sort of act as a capture card but I didn't see that as a thing. If it's physically locked the way it is, it's unfortunate because that 120hz should indeed be EDID enabled. Big miss on them for that specific thing. And thanks for the kind words btw!
@LusionX
@LusionX 2 ай бұрын
This tablet replaced my laptop. Better battery life, better portability and really really fast charging. I use this mainly for work docked up to 2 monitors and then some light gaming on the weekend or at night.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 2 ай бұрын
There is a product for everyone when used the right way, glad you found yours!
@flyingaviator8158
@flyingaviator8158 Ай бұрын
Better Battery? What kind laptop did you have before mate? 😅 And how do you manage the stand/keyboard issue
@rickwhittington1
@rickwhittington1 3 ай бұрын
So what I like about the video-in feature: I travel a lot and cary 2 laptops, table, and a portable monitor so I can still 2 screen it. This would replace my tablet and portable screen. Best case, when I do short travels, it may get to the point I just have my work laptop and this. I really cannot use an iPad pro as a replacement for my laptop on travel.... which sucks.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
You are the perfect example as to why I believe this product makes sense for the right people. Glad you got to pack more light, I can imagine how much that better that is. Cheers!
@choboutube
@choboutube 3 ай бұрын
I bought it because it because I have a Steam Deck and wanted (1) bigger screen (2) windows - for MS office work and also various game libraries. I have a modded Galileo G8 gamepad but I don't think I'd use it with the V3. For me I would take it travelling with my S9 tab ultra (second screen with superdisplay, or independently). I currently need 2 monitors for my work (writing on one screen, reading on the other). I have a yogabook 9i (first one) which has nice displays but seems to lag for some reason.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
You're a great example of how that product can makes sense. I'm glad it exists, that's the thing I could never deny this product of, I have zero doubt that many people can make great use of it, because on paper, it does a lot of things great. Cheers!
@willba4
@willba4 3 ай бұрын
its a pitty that the video input doesnt support touch
@willba4
@willba4 3 ай бұрын
i thought they did a bios update to show the feature in windows when you plug in video?
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
I haven't checked to be honest, bit swamped with production but if they did that, it's definitely a win for users of this product.
@maraclan8196
@maraclan8196 10 күн бұрын
I'm graphic designer, animator and video editor, I work from home and I have my desktop PC and my graphic tablet and all those things... but I have to go to the office very often too and I'm thinking that this is the kind of stuff that could make sense for me because all the power and the versatility I think could be a good solution
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 9 күн бұрын
And that is exactly why I believe for a select group of people, that device is an absolute game changer. You describe your « day-to-day » and to me I’m like yup, that’s the « laptop bag » ultimate tool to put in for someone like you.
@Dragorus360
@Dragorus360 2 күн бұрын
Great deep dive on using it as an external monitor. Thank you
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk Күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful, thank you!
@Dragorus360
@Dragorus360 Күн бұрын
@@GameTechTalk I am comparing this to the OneXPlayer X1 AMD version. I believe they have the same specs, but i'm not sure if the handheld has a little bit more power or not. But I want to pick one as my portable gaming machine between these 2.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk Күн бұрын
@@Dragorus360 The X1 AMD is arguably better for gaming, with attached controllers and better heat management for heavy usage. It also sports faster ram, bigger configurations if needed but also does not synthetically lock TDP as aggressively. Last but not least, the X1 also has an Oculink port if looking to venture deeper into eGPU solutions.
@init_yeah
@init_yeah 3 ай бұрын
I see ur man of culture I got some of those ikea boards too
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
🫡 Real recognizes real!
@emiliev
@emiliev 3 ай бұрын
great content, keep it up!
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
😍 Wow I didn't even know I had that feature!!! You didn't have to, I'm driven by my passion to help others but nonetheless, I humbly receive this and thank you greatly!
@RobertTowell
@RobertTowell 3 ай бұрын
Thank you. This feature was really appealing. But finiding out I need to turn off the V3 computer to use the display from another device is a bummer. I do not know if that is a hardware issue, or a software issue. But my plan of hot switching from my phone to a PC on the display sounds like it would not work.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately. Granted, the boot time and shut time is quite fast but it is necessary for the feature to work, at least up to this point. I tried putting Windows on Sleep, it's not enough for it to work either. I wanted to try "Hibernate" but wasn't able to "easily" restore the feature through command prompt so I decided I'd tackle that in the final review if I can. If you have questions, don't hesitate. Cheers!
@jwolfe12777
@jwolfe12777 Ай бұрын
Hey bro, can you make a quick guide on how to set up CRU to make that vlink port capable of 120hz?
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk Ай бұрын
My release schedule is tapped out unfortunately but I do have this unlisted video that covers the process pretty much. Just rather than touching the resolution, just adapt the framerate from 60 to 120 and that will do it. Cheers! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLmVnpljyLzcqo0.html
@khorium9626
@khorium9626 15 күн бұрын
Good Video!
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 15 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@choboutube
@choboutube 3 ай бұрын
The Ipad pro 2018 works for video in, and that's at most TB3.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Yeah TB3 and TB4 are retro compatible. And USB4, graciously given by Intel is as well as it is basically the same tech.
@zombiej79
@zombiej79 3 ай бұрын
What settings did you use in CRU did you add any resolutions?
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
I just copied the 1600 profile and changed the refresh rate on automatic, the software did the calculations just fine.
@benromdhanewalid6568
@benromdhanewalid6568 3 ай бұрын
Do you have a reference model to the USB4 adapter for DP in ?
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Oh snap! You made me realize I forgot to put text on the dock that I show. Don't get that, its not meant as a "reference" but rather an example. In all honesty, if such a solution exists, I have yet to see it. I'd think there is probably a device somewhere that can convert HDMI to Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 but if it exists, I've never seen it. Most docks, cables, adapters that you see only work in the other direction, which is USB-C to HDMI, but HDMI to USB-C seems not to be a thing. However, there is a solution to convert HDMI to DP and then DP to USB-C. I never tried such a thing but apparently, with these two chained solution, it could work. I thought it was a bit too "makeshift" for the video. Thanks for reminding me, I'll put a pinned note!
@executiveman
@executiveman 2 ай бұрын
I don't know why but it's not working as an external monitor for my 2019 Macbook Pro. My Minisforum V3 is turned off and I connected a USB C to USB C display cable from the Macbook to the VLink port, and I'm not getting anything.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 2 ай бұрын
I doubt it's that but asking just in case, does the cable handle the USB4 protocol? That could be why.
@executiveman
@executiveman 2 ай бұрын
@@GameTechTalk Not sure, what I got off Amazon is a USB C to USB C 3.1 Gen 2 cable and it's listed as a USB C to USB C Display Cable-Type C to Type C. But I emailed Minisforum and they said their technical team is currently working on resolving the issue, so hopefully I hear something from them soon.
@fuzzymuppet1990
@fuzzymuppet1990 3 ай бұрын
Man, if that hdmi input just simply bypassed the internal signal and kept the tablet going .., what a huge missed opritunity,
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I was expecting the same but oh well.
@Virtual_Victor.
@Virtual_Victor. 3 ай бұрын
im using it to play cod mobile form s20 and its working good so far
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Bawss! For the right person, it can definitely be a nice video-in solution!
@sebastiancasal8589
@sebastiancasal8589 Ай бұрын
In your opinion should i go as a window tablet, should i go for onexplayer X1 or V3 minisforum.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk Ай бұрын
If gaming is important, the X1 is unequivocally superior. If gaming is a side kind of thing and carries little weight, the Minisforum V3 is a decent tablet but it does have a bit of flaws, nothing too alarming and mostly to be forgotten a week into ownership.
@sebastiancasal8589
@sebastiancasal8589 Ай бұрын
@@GameTechTalk gaming would be a thing not major one but definitely a thing, but not as a handheld. Also browsing and just chill with series and movies. What are the flaws from v3
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk Ай бұрын
@@sebastiancasal8589 One of the main flaws for me is the slight mura effect on the panel. I also dislike that I have to shut it down for the input USB-C monitor to work, and that it uses it's own battery without offering passthrough. But quite frankly, these are minor gripes for the most part, if you know that gaming will be part, without being the number 1 thing, I'd say you probably won't be disappointed. Seems like you want first and foremost the convenience of a tablet and I could argue that it is indeed a slightly better tablet than the X1 while saying in the same breath that it is not as good for everything else though.
@sebastiancasal8589
@sebastiancasal8589 Ай бұрын
@@GameTechTalk awesome and in gaming what’s the difference between one and the other leaving out the handheld mode?
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk Ай бұрын
@@sebastiancasal8589 Temp management, Oculink, versus X1, definitely audio (nowhere near as good on Minisforum V3) and TDP locking but that can be addressed with the right tools. Not as "quality of life" than the baked in options but it's a mean to an end. Last, something quite trivial, the kickstand on the Minisforum V3 is... not good in my opinion.
@vinny5915
@vinny5915 3 ай бұрын
It is definitely not perfect. Nevertheless, I love this feature, as it allow me to make use the device as a extra monitor years from now, when the computer in it get outdated.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely, I’m 💯 with you in that, it gives a “feature-proof” layer that a device without said feature doesn’t have.
@johnnyw230
@johnnyw230 2 ай бұрын
Doesn’t the v3 have as good graphics as the rouge ally and equivalent?….newb sorry 😂
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 2 ай бұрын
It does but it is hindered by the TDP being locked and the overall thermal dissipation design. It's not a bad choice by no means, and most of the things I mentioned can be addressed, just out-of-box, it's obvious that the manufacturer did not focus "gaming" but rather productivity. Still, it can be made absolutely viable for gaming and yes, it'll match the ROG ALLY, outperform it even!
@michaelchristianrusso
@michaelchristianrusso Ай бұрын
@@GameTechTalk TDP isn't locked, I think you can use RyzenAdj or UXTU (I use UXTU) to increase the TDP, and I see it reported successfully with HWInfo64. When increasing TDP to 40W I got a 15% performance uplift in Cinebench while keeping SoC temperatures around 80C. Noise level was about the same (didn't adjust fan curves, and this processor doesn't support undervolting, sadly).
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk Ай бұрын
@@michaelchristianrusso By locked I meant the simpler routes and included tools by Minisforum but indeed, some apps perform at a deeper level than others and much like you pointed out, the TDP can be addressed. I also use UXTU, cheers!
@michaelchristianrusso
@michaelchristianrusso Ай бұрын
@@GameTechTalk yeah, it's a shame that Minis Forum didn't also let you tweak the settings away from the predefined ones in their app, but I do also understand that most people aren't tinkerers and shouldn't "have access to the nuclear codes" for warranty reasons, like someone cranking the TDP to 60W and running the tablet for months at the PDPROCHOT limit for instance.
@michaelbenny659
@michaelbenny659 3 ай бұрын
How much was that tablet?
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
T'was 1199$, they list it at 1499$.
@RobertTowell
@RobertTowell 3 ай бұрын
They were selling it pre-order for $1,199. I think now they are $1,499 once they start shipping. Search google for Minisforum V3 and you will find them.
@stevew145
@stevew145 3 ай бұрын
mine is defective. after 4 days the screen died. so far almost 24 hours and no response from support either. going to have to pay to send it back too. I'm really not impressed with it, or minisforum at this point. I would recommend people not get this tablet.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
Wow... Sorry to hear, that is quite scary. I'm not tempted to keep this with this comment if being honest. I was thinking of giving it to my wife but idk... 😱
@stevew145
@stevew145 3 ай бұрын
@@GameTechTalk I got a reply over night, got to send it cross country for replacement. hopefully the replacement is better.
@GameTechTalk
@GameTechTalk 3 ай бұрын
@@stevew145 I'll be sending positive vibes your way, I hate those situations if just for the anguish they bring. Fingers cross, it'll be smooth sailing.
@dzibanart8521
@dzibanart8521 3 ай бұрын
​​@@stevew145This is normal even apple products have defective units. You just got unlucky, sadly. The difficult thing here is that Minisforum is not based in USA, so their working hours are different, and it might take time to get replacement/repairs.
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