Ageing is something that happens to all of us, in this video i show the changes that Lee Trevino made as he got older from 35 yrs of age to 72 yrs of age #leetrevino #bettergolf #leetrevinoswing
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@PK-vd3vo3 жыл бұрын
Always loved his swing. He stated he just played golf, but he was quite the technician of the swing. Pair that with a winning personality and sense of humor, and you have a legend.
@MrLeftyno13 жыл бұрын
Agree a living legend, they make some great golfers in Texas for sure.
@golfhound2 жыл бұрын
Lee is one of the most knowledgeable golfers in the world and also able to communicate well. I would also recommend his book "Groove Your Swing My Way" if you can find a copy. It's a real treasure that requires reading several times. But it is perhaps the best instructional books on the golf swing there is. I know I'll get a lot of replies telling me I'm wrong. But consider that Ben Hogan used to send Lee prototype clubs to test. And didn't do that with any other golfer.
@MrLeftyno12 жыл бұрын
Will look out for Lee,s book Golf hound, he found his swing for sure, to many people try to be someone elses swing, it never works, thanks for watching.
@steveperry1344 Жыл бұрын
i have his book, i'll have to look at it again.
@smoozerish4 жыл бұрын
Lee Trevino is my favorite golfer
@MrLeftyno14 жыл бұрын
Top 5 ball striker of all time for sure, thanks for watching.
@eggsmann5942 жыл бұрын
Mine too.
@blackie754 жыл бұрын
you can't see any daylight between his legs because he's setting up in a closed stance. there's not a huge difference in his hips at impact. if he'd set up open, i'd say it would have been almost identical
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
He took it more outside on the backswing in his later years no doubt to get more of a draw. As you said, he didn’t have the rotation of his younger days when he just rotated that left forearm on that very flat plane on his backswing and turned his ass off in the downswing. Thanks for this comparison. It’s the only one I’ve seen
@chm97chm973 жыл бұрын
Very strong athletic man, underrated for his strength and athletic ability. Great hitter
@MrLeftyno13 жыл бұрын
Totallly agree He definitely did running and he said you need strong legs for golf, he also served in the US marines, so plenty of excercise there for sure.
@tonyleigh55176 жыл бұрын
He won't rotate open at impact as much with a closed stance as with an open stance. No-one could no matter how old!
@MrLeftyno16 жыл бұрын
Very true Tony he won't rotate as well, but probably wants the extra distance with his driver.
@zebman92285 ай бұрын
It seems like his original swing was very right hand dominant but with low rotation of the arms that would cause a draw / hook. It is like he is chopping wood very hard. But, he adjusted it to get the best low flying push / cut that would always stay in the fairway. It would not run off at the end into the edge of the rough. I wonder what his fairways hit stat looked like.
@MrLeftyno15 ай бұрын
I bet both were very good 😁
@A-FrameWedge6 жыл бұрын
If he was 35 on the swing on the left that would mean it was 1974 and his driver is a metal wood which really did not appear on the tour until the early 80’s, So I would say he was probably around 44 years old.
@MrIsaac-dh3uh3 жыл бұрын
Shoes and clothes too. Very '80s...
@patricklee7804 жыл бұрын
I did the opposite as I got older, I went with the open stance. I never could hit a consistent draw anyway. Now I hit it pretty much straight or with a bit of fade. If Lee hadn't been struck by lightning, he might still be using the old set-up. Plus he had a steel plate inserted in his neck, to fuse the vertebrae.
@MrLeftyno14 жыл бұрын
Good point Patrick
@conradnilmeier85207 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of what you say. I would suggest that Trevino didn't actually rotate his hips much as he really pre-cleared his hips with his open stance. That created the strong lateral leg drive move he had that kept the face on the target line longer. The opposite is Rory in that the sets up square and rotates so much the is clubface is not square very long and subesequently is a very average short iron player.
@MrLeftyno17 жыл бұрын
Conrad NIlmeier Good points Conrad, but even from a open position you need good strong legs, as Lee himself said if you copy my swing you have got to have good legs, glad you enjoyed video , thanks for watching.
@hugochavez43827 жыл бұрын
Great analysis!
@ScratchArkkitehti5 жыл бұрын
96 PROFESSIONAL WINS!
@stooger6885 жыл бұрын
I came here after looking at Wolff swing it. To me Wolff owes something to Lee. What interested me was Wolff kicking his left heel up high at the top. That reminds me of couples. Will never forget the footage of Lee being interviewed in the commentary box, round 2 of the 1987 us open at Olympic. Couples comes on the screen and Dave marr(?) asks Lee about him. And he says "ow yeah, this is my maaan, I call him cup-cakes!"
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
The one thing for sure is that on Driving ranges around the world heels will be lifting LOL, but it only works if you use ground forces like Matt or Nicklaus and Palmer did or do .
@brianreilly86618 жыл бұрын
very clever man must try this draw set up
@MrLeftyno18 жыл бұрын
+Brian Reilly Glad you enjoyed video Brian,hope it helps you.
@charlesking3384 Жыл бұрын
The only thing Lee Trevino changed was his ball flight. Any difference you see in his action is direct Reflection of that as well as his body wearing down.
@golfhound2 жыл бұрын
at 2:50 he has a closed stance in order to make more of a shoulder turn. With a closed stance, he can no longer turn around his right hip. As we get old and lose flexibility a closed stance is going to help to get a full shoulder turn on the back swing. It has NOTHING to do with a draw. Lee always said "Play a fade. Hogan won five Opens with a fade, so did Nicklaus and so did I. A HOOK won't listen to you , but a fade will."
@MrLeftyno12 жыл бұрын
We will just have to respectfully disagree over Lee and his draw, Lee also said at my age I need to draw the ball more, but when he was younger he made his money with a fade for sure, but at 80plus he just wants to play.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
@@MrLeftyno1you are correct. He definitely closed his stance off to play a draw in his late years. The guy is talking like he swung the same in his younger days as he did in his late years. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about lol.
@maxpuppy965 жыл бұрын
his swing path is a little flatter on the left (younger) when he brings it back on the right watch the club head is a little outside the line coming back gives him a little bit more speed when he is older, club head at parallel on the right is right at his head on the left the club head at parallel is behind his head. I would take both of them.
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
Mark Nairn , I would definitley take either swing and half his majors and tour wins, and I would be one happy Golfer, good points made Mark, thanks for watching.
@maxpuppy965 жыл бұрын
@@MrLeftyno1 I have been in the Golf business all my life, my family owns and operates a public golf course since 1970, I am a better greens superintendent than I am a player, but I use to scrape it around pretty good when I was younger I don't play at all anymore. www.blackwoodgolf.com
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
Love your golf course,its gone on my list of courses to play when in US.
@commonsense21565 жыл бұрын
best body rotation maybe ever
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
Remember Lee saying he had great legs in the swing maybe helped to get the great rotation ?
@jonathanmercer7109 Жыл бұрын
Can't see daylight between his knees because of the closed stance, which also accounts for the alteration in hip rotation.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
If you think Lee at 75 rotates the same as he did when he was young you’re crazy. Plus you can clearly see he’s releasing the club more on the right through the ball
@jonathanmercer71097 ай бұрын
@@Jsizzle6809 I did not discuss rotation - I pointed out closed stance versus open stance. Feel free to consider cause and effect, because the swing is a bio-mechanical chain reaction.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
@@jonathanmercer7109 “which also accounts for the alteration in hip rotation.” Yea, you did discuss it….
@markwinkler48247 жыл бұрын
Does Lee swing his arms on the way back and turn his body on the way down ? (swing right and turn left)
@MrLeftyno17 жыл бұрын
I think that watching a golf swing is sometimes like watching a magician. A magician purposefully tries to make you look at the wrong hand to trick you, whereas with a golf swing they are not trying to trick you but we are always drawn to the hands and arms because they are moving so much, but the movement of the body is subtle but it is happening and very important to the swing, thanks for watching Mark
@hardpan8 жыл бұрын
One other thing, Lee told me he changed from his famous strong lead hand grip to an interlock, to get a tad more action/rotation through the ball, no holding on for him anymore
@MrLeftyno18 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting Doug, and a lesson to all of us that we have to change if we want to play this beautiful game right to the end. Thanks for that comment.
@hardpan8 жыл бұрын
He comes into the Golfsmith here in Dallas, where I work as the clubmaker. Which is the only reason he comes in, to buy 'lead tape, grip solvent, tour van epoxy', everytime :) I've had some really eye opening conversations with him (for me anyway) ..he described exactly what you are talking about, less lateral motion, more rotation, still has that little Lee shuffle though :) I asked him if he taught his boys 'his swing', he said, hell no!
@hardpan8 жыл бұрын
Forgot...the reason he wouldn't teach his boys "his swing" is as he said, "you don't have to work the ball anymore, it's not like the high spin balata balls we used" (although he was one of the first to use harder covered balls) ...spin and control...he's a master
@MrLeftyno18 жыл бұрын
In some ways i think like tennis and golf changed not really for the better when wooden drivers and in the case of tennis wooden rackets became a thing of the past,still use my old persimmon driver sometimes and Balata balls ,God I"m showing my age lol
@hardpan8 жыл бұрын
me too! :) thank you for the video.
@grahamjones73717 жыл бұрын
70s maybe but Im in my 50s and getting longer on more powerful!
@garthdownton86455 жыл бұрын
Moe Norman is the only golfer who's swing improved with time, until his health deteriorated. He hit it further and straighter.
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
Either swing would make you a dam fine golfer lol, but they found the swing that worked for them, most are copying someone elses swing, a custom made suit only perfectly fits one person, the same with a golf swing.
@richyclubsport5155 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, what did he win though
@herbgoldstein53 жыл бұрын
Sorry to say you missed the biggest difference. His earlier swing at address Was like Moe Norman Shaft line was straight up the right and left arm
@MrLeftyno13 жыл бұрын
Hi Herb, we will have to disagree on that point as I looked at both Lee and Moes Swing and they are very different in the point you made, thanks for watching though.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
Not like Moe Norman. Sorry Herb…
@ScratchArkkitehti3 жыл бұрын
No 👎 ⛔ 📵 The camera was set up wrong. On the left he was instructing how to hit a draw on the left as well.....Your camera angles are totally different.
@MrLeftyno13 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with the camera angles, and video on the left he is hitting a fade as you can see ball starting to go right.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
@@MrLeftyno1gahhh sooo many people don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s maddening! Your analysis is spot on sir. Scratch is clueless. I feel the need to defend you. Sorry!
@GDKRichardson8 жыл бұрын
As countless numbers of videos and films show, Lee Trevino is fifty-years famous for squirreling back and forth around the ball before finally setting his feet in a position he found acceptable. Therefore, a video of his stance which has been edited to show his stance only after he has completed all his squirreling around can be greatly misleading and generate a lot of false conclusions. To paraphrase Lee: 'I just could never hit a ball straight if it was forward in my stance, so on the tee I moved around a lot to get the ball more in the middle of my stance, you know what I'm sayin'?'' He also famously said that to hit a draw, he opened his stance, instead of closing it. And finally, Lee was famed for his ability to hit a controlled fade--the preferred shot of both Hogan and Nicklaus, both of whom hit their fade off the tee using a closed stance. In short, Lee's stance--whether we 'see' it as being open or closed, whether at age 35 or 65, whether it is with or without an observable space between the knees, was the result of trying many different stances on the tee box in his consistent plan to strike the ball in the middle of his stance relative to his target line, usually in a controlled fade toward the right side of the fairway. If we watch Lee in old film and videos, we can easily observe that Lee repeatedly changed his stance multiple times before every tee shot in his career. Changing his stance in this edited video has nothing to do with his increased age. We can easily find these two videos in reverse: Lee using a closed stance when he was 35 and using an open stance when he was 65.
@MrLeftyno18 жыл бұрын
+Don Kirk I would say a young Trevino could fade or draw from any stance as he himself said I had to have strong legs to swing like I did,In his 70s he just does not have the leg strength to drive his rotatation like he used to even when he was in his fiftys on the senior tour, but even then he was starting to draw the ball more as he was losing distance, i would as someone else commented take either swing as he was in the top 5 ball strikers who has ever lived, I think personally that Lee found a way to keep playing competitively longer by closing his stance and a couple of other tweaks this I think shows a intelligent golfer who adapts to the effects of aging ,hence his 29 senior tour victory's
@jakemitchell16715 жыл бұрын
Don Kirk: with all due respect Don, I've read very few golf comments full of more hogwash that yours. Kudos.
@chrisledbetter92784 жыл бұрын
Don Kirk Trevino has said in a number of videos that he closed his stance to play a draw, he also has said many times how important a consistent setup is to your swing. I find it hard to believe that a pro golfer would play around with his stance and not have a consistent place for his feet, in relation to the ball.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
I guess Don Kirk deleted his comment. I was curious what he had said
@jeffreyanderson51065 жыл бұрын
Mate , he himself says he never played a fade. Open stance with a push that says statement you can find it if you do the research.
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
I know Lee Trevino coined the phrase , you can talk to a fade but you cant talk to a Hook. Also remember watching a Pro celeb match where a actress ( now married to Sam Torrance ) asked him why he always faded the ball, Lee"s reply was honey when youve earnt $25 million fading the ball you dont change , his words not mine in both cases.
@bogee4u5 жыл бұрын
not to split hairs...but I think he said ..."You can talk to a fade, but a hook won't listen"@@MrLeftyno1
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
@@bogee4u Your right he did indeed, well spotted.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
Mate, he did indeed play a fade. An open stance push fade…
@malcolmbrannen7 жыл бұрын
His feet appear to have shrunk LOL
@MrLeftyno17 жыл бұрын
To funny , after looking it would appear so LOL.
@mikeparishy5 жыл бұрын
someone already did a video on this exact thing a few years ago
@MrLeftyno15 жыл бұрын
Personally have never seen it, but thanks for info Edward.
@nikkikiska Жыл бұрын
Awful, awful analysis. 1. Trevino's open stance wasn't a "setup for a fade". Trevino explained, repeatedly, why it was easier to hit a draw with that open stance. 2. The majority of the difference in hip angle at impact is due to the difference in setup. He's set up 20 degrees+ more closed in the video at right.
@Jsizzle68097 ай бұрын
Actually yeah, it was a set up for a fade, a push fade. His analysis was very good. You do know Trevino hit a low push fade as his stock shot right? He might be able to hit a draw from that stance but that open stance is just his normal stance. And his normal shot was a push fade. And I think the MINORITY in the difference in hip angle on the right is due to set up. He simply doesn’t turn like he used to in his younger days and plus he plays draws in his late years and clearly releases the club more through the ball.
@whiteyholmes2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a baseball swing… As flat as I’ve ever seen…