It was a really long flight I heard

That is the most important Spiderverse story. In the Watching Spiderman Movies Spiderverse. (After all, there would be no Tom Holland Spiderverse without Iron Man!)

Some say he is still on it.

I like evolving it so that the purpose of his trip is specifically to see Iron Man as well

He narrowly dodged an encounter with Corn Of Coblin there. Let's not forget that.

Chandler's Law distilled into its purest form

​@@mattball8622this is a wonderful concept thank you for introducing me

@@DarkachuWasTaken one of my favourite ever tropes. Every time I see it I lean forwards in my seat because hell yeah, they did the thing.

​@@mattball8622 How often does it work?

@@StudioInkblot the beautiful thing about it is when it doesn't work it's arguably funnier

green?

@@goon11789corn of coblin was going to be the villain, the green was inspired by his green leaves

Sure it wasnt Blue Harvest?

Green harvest 2: rise of Spider-Mandrew Gaguiderman

Haha good one 😂 but I would have gone with gween

Spite apparently

That theme song slaps

exactly! one of the best venoms!

The Secret Wars and the Spider Wars (name check) story lines were just the best

Is it not just a straight adaptation of the 616 universe?

Spider-Man works in mysterious ways, Shelly

F tier

Did that ever officially open?

Is there a letter after Z? We need to invent one if not, and it still wouldn't be low end.

​@@Jllyrol311 yes it did I saw it in broadway

Nah, the fact that all cartoons were lumped in with the Ultimate Spiderman show automatically brings them down to F.

@@alenor210 ulitmate spiderman was good wtf are u talking about

@@iMightyElephant maybe it got better later on, I only watched the first season and change as a kid, but from what I remember it kinda sucked

@@alenor210 i admit is was kinda for kids but i thought it was pretty solid even watching it as an adult. Doesn't hold a candle to spectacular spiderman tho

They mentioned unlimited and they’re sort of supposed to be the same universe. James and Maso definitely didn’t know that but it is technically correct.

​@@rueblie2627it's not correct, not only jonh semper said that it isn't the same universe but in unlimited MJ, Venom and Carnage are alive that alone separates this 2 shows

They definitely left it out deliberately because Maso is a hater

“I actually had to get out of my seat and pick up my charging phone” a fellow American I see

Amen

Spiderman TAS was better than all the others. SS tier

The animation could have been better, but everything else was S-tier. Not having a third season is its biggest crime, so I guess into the f-tier bin it goes.

​@@iBluefootThe animation style allowed the fight scenes to be very fluid.

YES

Yeah, "You are a lot like your father. You really are, Peter, and that's a good thing. But your father, he lived by a philosophy, a principle, really. He believed that if you could do good things for other people, you had a moral obligation to do those things! That's what's at stake here. Not choice. Responsibility." just rolls off the tongue.

@@TrumbullComic "also if you see a crime happening just involve yourself regardless of the circumstances or potential consequences"

⁠@@TrumbullComicWhat Uncle Ben said there about Peter’s father having a strong moral code is evident when he showed up in a deleted scene in the second movie as having faked his death. Sure, people were trying to kill him so he went into hiding to protect Peter… or something. Guess those people stopped looking for him so he could show up after Gwen died and let Peter know that he wasn’t dead, he just abandoned his son. What a stand-up guy. Thanks Sony! Lmao.

@@TrumbullComicStill better than Tom Holland’s hamfisted spiel to Tony Stark in Civil War. The context is just missing.

​@@TrumbullComic it is truly iconic and Andrew Garfield Spiderman totally lied to Tom Holland Spiderman about the quote.

Spidey and his Amazing Friends is on Disney Junior My nephew ❤ it

​@@RocafellaPlaza82Different show, similar name

I hope both sides of your pillow are warm tonight

You rambled a bit towards the end and made me figure out what you were doing right before reading it.

The dancing and cheese I can forgive, its the story structure that throws me out. It basically juggles two and a half movies worth of plot badly squished together. The whole Harry Amnesia thing was there to get Harry out the way while they set up Sandman. The Clint Marko killed Uncle Ben retcon was their to facilitate the Black suit stuff. And the Gwen drama was there to push Eddie down the Venom road. It's all so messy and unnecessary: If you have Harry try and fail to take down Pete and be on the fence about killing him, then you can have him become Venom and ditch Eddie's character entirely. If you have Aunt May accidentally injured in Flint's robbery, then you don't have to retcon the Uncle Ben stuff. Hell, if you just swap around the New Goblin stuff, so Harry starts by confronting/manipulating MJ before going for the full on attack, you can reintroduce the storyline without having to rehash the Harry and Pete stuff, and without having to bench Harry as soon as he's introduced. The movie isn't as bad as its sometimes made out to be, but it's frustrating because it feels like with less studio interference, or another pass at the script, there is a Spider-man 2 waiting to get out.

@@matthewstarkie4254Oh absolutely. I downplayed my initial disappointment in my comment, but of course all the things you say are true and the real issue with the movie. Even though I agree that it's messy, I think it's remarkable that it manages to both fully feel like Sony just jammed Venom into an already working movie, AND feel like Raimi did the best he could to preserve the movie he wanted to make while also adhering to the things mandated by Sony. I don't think making anyome else Venom was ever on the table. Sony have been chomping at the bit to make 90s Venom/Lethal Protector happen as a spinoff for ages. It's like... pathological on their part or something. But yeah, for sure, the movie used to make me profoundly sad because you can see the movie he wanted to make in there. Peter simply succumbing to his fame and self centeredness, because that's a human thing that can happen, and then finding his compass and getting out of that. The moral isn't that black goop from space can make you evil, it's that Flint Marko - the killer of uncle Ben, the symbol of injustice in these movies - isn't inherently more *evil* than Peter. It's more coming of age good stuff, and by the time Sony had their way with the movie, it's so murky. But I maintain that it's a testament to Raimi as a filmmaker that you can still parse the message, even though it would obviously be more satisfying without Venom being jammed in there.

You’re welcome.

It's all Mason's fault

Does it even matter anymore...

Spoilers: - It's the Joaquin Phoenix movie, the Joker.