MSI Stops Making AMD Graphics Cards, Prioritizes Nvidia GPUs Instead

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3 ай бұрын

In this video, we delve into several hot topics in the tech world. First, we discuss stability issues with Intel's 14th and 13th gen CPUs and the BIOS updates released by ASUS and Gigabyte to address them. Then, we explore MSI's decision to focus primarily on Nvidia RTX GPUs, leaving behind AMD's Radeon 7000 series. We analyze the reasons behind this shift, including profitability and market demand. Additionally, we discuss AMD's challenges in gaining market share in the GPU industry and the potential impact of their upcoming RDNA4 architecture. We also touch on the supply shortage of Nvidia's RTX 40 series GPUs in the Asian market and speculate on the causes. Finally, we wrap up with insights into the competitive landscape between Nvidia and AMD and what it means for the future of GPU technology. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit the notification bell to stay updated on all things tech!
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05:20 MSI Stops Making AMD GPUs
09:35 Nvidia GPU Shortages
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@nastyyoda5673 2 ай бұрын

MSI once used a direct copper pipes cooling on their RX 6900XT to save cost which caused horrible hotspot temps due to uneven surface

@marshal7969 2 ай бұрын

So it's a good thing they're gone now right?

@nastyyoda5673 2 ай бұрын

@@marshal7969 yeah they always cheap out on AMD gpu's

@alexturnbackthearmy1907 2 ай бұрын

@@nastyyoda5673 Or on anything in general. They make almost cheapest stuff out there for a reason.

@swingdaddy2126 2 ай бұрын

@@nastyyoda5673 I cant speak for all MSI GPUs but every MSI GPU I have owned or had to service was of poor quality when it came to cooler. was never impressed at all.

@CowCatwithafancyHat 2 ай бұрын

Like someone gives 2 shits about MSI, if I would get a radeon I would get Sapphire or PowerColor

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2 ай бұрын

Or XMX or maybe an Asus since they allow extra power but MSI cards were never anything special.

@RealTechGeek 2 ай бұрын

Asrock too makes fantastic AMD gpus.

@PenX79 2 ай бұрын

@@RealTechGeekTrue. I have rx6800. Amazing card.

@Fluskar 2 ай бұрын

7000 series sales was rough for msi huh

@obi-wankenobi1190 2 ай бұрын

Most people buy Sapphire PowerColor or ASUS as it comes to Radeons, not like it's going to matter much, even so it's not good either.

@ThisOLmaan 2 ай бұрын

Right No Biggy...

@tonydalimata 2 ай бұрын

You left out XfX and ASRock but personally I would go with Sapphire myself .

@obi-wankenobi1190 2 ай бұрын

@@tonydalimata yea well I was giving primary examples XFX Pine Group as it's actually named and AsRock are also major players yea even so Sapphire PowerColor & ASUS seem to get the most sales, wellf rom where I am located, Iw as being very global in that sense. AMD Also makes their own cards and there is Jeston & Gigabyte as well. That one AIB falls out doesn't mean like the end of the world, there is plenty to choose from likewise

@lflyr6287 2 ай бұрын

DannyzReviews : MSI as the company didn't decide this....this is yet another version of the Nvidias Geforce Partner Program with which Nvidia is trying to bully out AMD-s very well selling GPU quantites from MSI-s side by simply forcing MSI to do it. Yet another GPP v2 in a form of a anti-consumer and anti-competitive tactic.

@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis 2 ай бұрын

Wow, that’s sleazy. Well, I guess we should expect it from NGREEDia.

@juanandreas97 2 ай бұрын

source

@lflyr6287 2 ай бұрын

@@juanandreas97 to who ? You buttercup ?!?! I was playing with my first 3D GPU called 3D-FX Voodoo 1 4MB SDR PCI coupled with Ati Rage Pro 4MB AGP2x when you were born buttercup....you know the year 1997 and stuff ;).

@dpptd30 2 ай бұрын

Source? Plus even if so AMD isn't exactly free from anti competitive behavior, their FSR exclusivity BS has been going on for a while now until they were caught, at this point this kind of tactic is fair game when AMD is doing this to Nvidia as well due to their dominance in console, thus have priority for many devs to optimized for their GPU architecture and their crappy FidelityFX software suite.

@juanandreas97 2 ай бұрын

@@dpptd30 their fans also somehow forget, that Fake Frame now very good in AMD

@Kevalinx16 2 ай бұрын

Does no one do static overclock anymore?

@ScottGrammer 2 ай бұрын

Motherboard manufacturers screwed up by overpowering CPU's out of the box, because they know that they have to compete with real overclockers, even when their boards get sold to people who don't know how to set up an overclock. It's perfectly possible to overclock a CPU to increase its performance while maintaining stability and not degrading the silicon seriously. I've been doing it since 1998. But - that said - your results will vary based on your experience, the particular CPU you have, what motherboard you have, and your patience level and ability to keep track of multiple settings and the results of changing them. When I overclock a CPU, I set aside an entire day to do it. It takes that long to get the best out of a chip and make sure it's stable and won't die. My Ryzen 9 5950X hits north of 30,000 in R23, and has done so for nearly two years now. Motherboard manufacturers need to have their bioses run a CPU at stock voltage, stock power limits, etc, out of the box. If the end user wants more, let him or her learn how to make it happen and take responsibility for the results.

@tomthomas3499 2 ай бұрын

When you can make more money selling Nvidia cards at overpriced msrp, and people will still buy Nvidia despite their poor value, i'm not surprised at all tbh

@techwandoUS 2 ай бұрын

Very well explained for those who need help. Great video Danny.

@TheGiannispanatha13 2 ай бұрын

I have msi bord msi power supply and msi 7900xtx trio gaming classic i love it.

@luna775 2 ай бұрын

MSI has questionable quality anyways, they will save 3 cents on a capacitor or a thermal pad and screw you letting you deal with a dead card. I dont recommend them, shame evga is out..

@redclaw72666 2 ай бұрын

Man no wonder MSI works especially for my 10900k at 5.3ghz with 32gb ram hitting at 4533mhz 16-17-17-35 on a z590 unify X paired with a MSI rtx 4090 liquid X working flawless as hell

@ripvanwinkle3432 2 ай бұрын

Bros coping hard. I've never had an msi gpu but I've used msi mobos for a while now. I was going to get the 4080 expert but they were out of stock and I wasn't waiting lol

@liberteus 2 ай бұрын

Sapphire makes the best amd GPUs. But dang, there are ever fewer aib making amd cards...

@temperedglass1130 2 ай бұрын

Shows you how little money they make for companies they can just be dropped.

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat 2 ай бұрын

No surprise when they barely have any market share and a failed generation.

@unknownposter2075 2 ай бұрын

is Asrock decent for AMD cards?

@yomatokamari 2 ай бұрын

The high-end lc models are good. The lower models are worse than MSI mech ones.

@kasmidjan 2 ай бұрын

Just dont pick their Lower Tier one....

@Eric-ct2ri 2 ай бұрын

yes the gpu space needs more competition BUT not aib competition aib competition wont change a thing all it really does is different cooler styles. what we need is more competition on the level of amd intel nvidia ie more companies making gpus so they have to compete for customers. also chance are msi got evga's portion of chip supply so dropping amd wouldnt be a supprise requirement.

@AlejandroJorqueraZ 2 ай бұрын

Well, the best AMD partner models are from Saphire and XFX. With a 14% market share, is better to have fewer and better options than a lot of crap.

@X_irtz 2 ай бұрын

You mean XFX?

@AlejandroJorqueraZ 2 ай бұрын

@@X_irtz yeah, my bad xD

@rulik006 2 ай бұрын

PowerColor is better than XFX. XFX sometimes can fuck up. While Powercolor can do better than even Sapphire, example: RX580 Red devil

@ishiddddd4783 2 ай бұрын

@@rulik006 all the high end Powercolor gpus suffer from pump out, and xfx did as well until they did a revision, with RDNA3 unless it's sapphire, it's almost granted you will have to disassemble the card to place ptm7950

@purgedome2386 2 ай бұрын

My MSI 1070Ti Gaming still running well (6+ yrs or daily use). Though I have always had a 'smelly' burning issue with the GPU but it never stop working or overheated so haven't replaced it but they sure can smell(not a forgotten plastic wrap issue).. Sad to hear that they may not make AMD GPU cause I'm considering Intel GPU's when I finally buy a new GPU. Hopefully Intel BM is in their plans.

@Solrac-Siul 2 ай бұрын

Sometimes I wonder if i should have a tech channel 1-you do not need a intel profile on msi boads, the user just needs to select "boxed cooler" and the board will set intel defaults for whatever processor is installed. 2-The performance tests done with the gigabyte profile are flawed since for whatever reason the nutcases doing it were using a 13900QS , that is a qualification sample - aka a pre release test 13900- and not a retail i9, and as such pl2 was set at 188 watts and 249 A of icc cache, that is essentially the base line setting for a 14600k. As a result those performance comparisons and losses are incorrect .

@StudyWithNika 2 ай бұрын

msi produces great motherboards and gpu overclocking and under volt software. However they seem to economize on materials and components used inside gpus.

@StingyGeek 2 ай бұрын

It's all fine for Intel to say motherboard makers were not following their guiidelines, but they were happy to take the benchmarking results when it came to selling the i9 product. I think the case for re-benchmarking the i9 product is getting stronger. It's a 'good idea' not but 'essential' when the final fix arrives. Personally, I wouldn't touch an i9 at this point. It's worth no more that an i7...if you want to buy intel.

@ThisOLmaan 2 ай бұрын

i Still need to Undervolt but i have no idea what all that means, any tips any, tips any one can offer Thank you.

@hornantuutti5157 2 ай бұрын

Plenty of quides for that in youtube that explain it. Cpu or gpu..

@X_irtz 2 ай бұрын

Essentially you lower the voltage that is being supplied to your GPU, while maintaining the same clock speeds. This in return drops temperatures, since lower voltage means the silicon gets cooler, lower power consumption, so potentially lower power bills, and theoretically higher silicon lifespan, since less voltage goes thru the silicon. It's worth it trying, if your card runs a tad bit too hot with its stock settings. Definitely made a difference on my 3070 Ti dropping it down to 230-ish Watts, thing is a power hog on stock settings (almost 300 Watts on full load!!!).

@ThisOLmaan 2 ай бұрын

@@hornantuutti5157 TY

@ThisOLmaan 2 ай бұрын

@@X_irtz TY

@gstormcz 2 ай бұрын

My RX6650XT is MSI Mech, the cheapest model with 2fans but also best value here iin 12/2022, . It works well... after undervolt and overclock. It ran hot and loud until I stopped it by checking fix online for making it silent, cool and no choking. It seems unreasonable gpu and fan settings are good business to sell better cooler solutions. Those RX7900GRE and XT could see just pricing/ naming adjustments, xd. Anyway I will consider Nvidia too. This announcement could be kind of gesture for Nvidia AIBs partnership policy - just Have ones cake and eat it too. Msi could just be going on making AMD gpus unoficially.

@yes-gn4kn 2 ай бұрын

well good riddance because msi mech gpus are horrible

@ctjmaughs 2 ай бұрын

Looks like what happens when you gire the wrong staff.

@LOOTLORD605 2 ай бұрын

Never bought the msi version anyway, price always was a bit more ridiculous if I remember correctly.

@Bsc8 2 ай бұрын

They slightly modify nvidia coolers to fit radeon cards, so thank you for quitting that msi. Leave Sapphire and XFX be the best radeon cards :)

@dirkjewitt5037 2 ай бұрын

It's cause Nvidia mad deals with them if they did. Like single slot RTX cards and possibly more. Only they have the prick from the pen used to sign the deal.

@9mmfederalrimmed235 2 ай бұрын

It was allways the issue with MSi that their cards where pricier or they skimped on an plastik backplate instead an metal one when I purchased my AMD cards. At the end I got in 2022 the Asus Dual RX 6600 and 2023 for my other build the XFX Qick RX 6750 XT. Each time I was about to consider the MSi mechs but they where allways more expensive by a long shot and had only an plastic backplate. Sapphire and XFX are chinese companies so be aware of that. I wanted to stick with 🇹🇼 taiwanese companies but eighter they where more expensive or skimped on components. With XFX I have had extraordinary good results. Surprisingly. But the Asus is awesome as well and I would allways chose Asus if I could.

@CaptainScorpio24 2 ай бұрын

may b its bcz amd isn't interested in launching flagship anymore and amd cards generally bought at heavy discounts.

@clinged2711 2 ай бұрын

7:31 LOUDER for the people in the back

@zaraizara2794 2 ай бұрын

Regardless of the brand, selling AMD GPUs is pointless, considering the extremely expensive RTX 4090 alone has outsold the entire AMD RX 7000 series. AMD fans are vocal everywhere, yet most of them don't even actually buying new AMD cards.

@charlesg5085 2 ай бұрын

Lol the last msi card i bought was a 1070. The next 15 were amd.

@skadonkie 2 ай бұрын

You’ll never even notice 🤣

@psour33 2 ай бұрын

They can stop Nvidia too and even motherboards. I won't cry about it.

@clubx1000 2 ай бұрын

@Averagedude-mi3fl 2 ай бұрын

I do like the z690 board I got from them, but nvidia cards are too overpriced for my liking in many cases. They had decent cards but oh well…guess no more msi cards for me.

@johnbeaudin 2 ай бұрын

It's crappy for the video title to promise something, and then making us wait 5 minutes while you discuss something completely unrelated.

@Scypher0th 2 ай бұрын

MEH, i dont buy MSI....there interface for driver and firmware updates r crap, and there bios is shit

@redclaw72666 2 ай бұрын

Man no wonder MSI works especially for my 10900k at 5.3ghz with 32gb ram hitting at 4533mhz 16-17-17-35 on a z590 unify X paired with a MSI rtx 4090 liquid X working flawless as hell

@josheverett2253 2 ай бұрын

I wish EVGA would have picked up AMD after Nvidia was being pricks to to them!

@arenzricodexd4409 2 ай бұрын

EVGA did not go to AMD (or intel) because it will be significantly bad deal for them.

@kishin9 2 ай бұрын

Still wont buy a nvidia GPU again evga was the only reason I was buying nvidia GPUs and MSI GPUs are overpriced anyways.

@fynnplayz6501 2 ай бұрын

First

@jossremes5502 2 ай бұрын

En cuanto a GPUs la gente compra AMD porque es barato, pero las tarjetas baratas de MSI se sabe que son las peores.

@justhomas83 2 ай бұрын

Money first huh. Well I'm skipping MSI

@redclaw72666 2 ай бұрын

Man no wonder MSI works especially for my 10900k at 5.3ghz with 32gb ram hitting at 4533mhz 16-17-17-35 on a z590 unify X paired with a MSI rtx 4090 liquid X working flawless as hell Maybe don't be poor next time lmao

@X_irtz 2 ай бұрын

@@redclaw72666 Why do you comment this under every negative comment about MSI? You do realize that experiences with GPU's can wildly differ from one person to another? Not every single computer part is made the same, some will fail more than others.

@ShinyHelmet 2 ай бұрын

@@X_irtz It's called cope. 😆

@X_irtz 2 ай бұрын

@@ShinyHelmet Figured out that's the case here. Guess i'd be coping the same way, if i bought a ~$4000 gaming PC lol.

@NBWDOUGHBOY 2 ай бұрын

it honestly makes sense. The Fanboys can try to drum up a Narrative all they want. The realization is that Nvidia dominates the market and its not even close. This says more about Radeon's inability to compete and not what Business choice MSI are making. They are probably wasting more money on the Silicon than what they are making on the card. lol

@ripvanwinkle3432 2 ай бұрын

Yea fanboys are coping hard. Awesome products at a great price would dominate awesome products at a horrible price.

@raq5558 2 ай бұрын

lol amd sucks lol

@montreauxs 2 ай бұрын

Nah... lol!

@zasrum 2 ай бұрын

It doesn't seem to be a decision based on profitability. MSI lunched 7900 xt and xtx very late, and didn't lunch 7700/ 7800 at all. 7900 xtx and 7800 xt are actually selling quite well (else why would nVIDIA make the "Supers"). Also MSI lunched an awful Intel based handheld. To me it looks like the two have some personal issues in the higher up leadership.

@Ornal64 2 ай бұрын

This might be a rumour. The facts are that AI is the future and Nvidia is way ahead Radeon in this field. Radeon is decent in gaming and is not going away anytime soon but it might move towards apu design at some point. Maybe MSI will be on board with Intel gpus? This looks like long term strategic MSI decision based on what we can only speculate.

@lethanhtung4972 2 ай бұрын

Predictable. MSI dont have any top tier class card with AMD, Giga and Asus will follow the footstep

@zdspider6778 2 ай бұрын

7:13 "MSI has made 14 different versions of the RTX 4080. 14 of them." What a shit business decision that was! Did they even LOOK at the sales numbers? 😂 NOBODY wanted the 4080. And in their brilliant minds "LeT's mAkE mOaR oF tHeM!" 🤣 I think only the "SUPER" version gained some traction but only because it was "cheaper", but I wouldn't drop a cool _thou_ on what should have been the 70-class and sold for maybe $450. ALL 70-class sold in the last DECADE, since the GTX 670, have had a 256-bit memory bus, not 192-bit. And 16GB should have been standard with the 3000 series. Nvidia is actively dragging the entire industry down, all while developing "faking" technologies (shitty upscaling, fake frames) which are only meant to sell you less hardware for more money.

@ishiddddd4783 2 ай бұрын

the standard 4080 still outsold the XTX nearly 3:1, and the 4080S is already ramping up in the charts, it's not really far fetched when that was the worst selling ADA gpu, and it still outsold all RDNA3 sku's.

@maxdave9590 2 ай бұрын

I don't care, the only MSI's stuff i've got is a 1440p Monitor bought since 2022, i really don't like MSI Products, dammn!! The MSI Flaw handheld game is a big failure🤣🤣

@Pwnag3Inc 2 ай бұрын

Aitah for having the personal opinion that msi makes trash products? I currently own 4 gaming pc’s that most would envy, and you will not find a single msi product in any of them. Also, intel is cooked. They went full chernobyl in order to compete with amd and these horrible chips are the outcome. Rip intel.

@lamikal2515 2 ай бұрын

And then, 10 years from now, MSI CEO is gonna close their GPU branch, complaining " Nvida treats us as serfs, not partners". Intel complaining the board partenrs don't follow their guidelines... MAKE THOSE MANDATORY THEN ! Oh... you're perfectly happy to turn a blind eye to it as long as it allows you to stay competitive ??

@raythomas3701 2 ай бұрын

AMD are too expensive

@billytk1225 2 ай бұрын

MSI should just stop making ALL GPU's cause they are junk and don't last. Not worth wasting money on IMO.

@fabiusmaximuscunctator7390 2 ай бұрын

4060 (Ti) is complete garbage anyway, who would buy that shit?

@arenzricodexd4409 2 ай бұрын

semi pro crowd? the same way those people end up favoring 3060 12GB over 3060Ti or 3070. 4060Ti 16GB at $500 is a steal compared to comparable A4000 20GB that end up costing bear $2000 due to heavy AI demand. that's why during launch Asus dare to price their 4060Ti 16GB at much more expensive price than their 4070. because they now which crowd craving for such card.

@cosmicusstardust3300 2 ай бұрын

MSI sucks anyway

@redclaw72666 2 ай бұрын

Man no wonder MSI works especially for my 10900k at 5.3ghz with 32gb ram hitting at 4533mhz 16-17-17-35 on a z590 unify X paired with a MSI rtx 4090 liquid X working flawless as hell

@ShinyHelmet 2 ай бұрын

@@redclaw72666 🤣🤣🤣

@rulik006 2 ай бұрын

@@redclaw72666 but they are sucks on LGA1700

@lil----lil 2 ай бұрын

In this business, if you idle too long u die. Just ask Intel. AMD hasn't been competitive in the GPU for the last FOUR generations - FOUR Generations! People. That's EIGHT YEARS. AMD needs to merge with Intel's GPU division A.I. (how cute). If they work together, they have a good chance to be competitive with Nvidia. Co-design the GPU with Intel fabricating it.

@NBWDOUGHBOY 2 ай бұрын

Dont speak with Logic. LOL. The Fanboys dont understand this. lol. Great observation of the truth of the matter.

@h1tzzYT 2 ай бұрын

I would rather see three manufacturers trying to compete than see the same, almost close to the same duopoly we've been getting for decades (AMD vs Nvidia)

@hangemhi001 2 ай бұрын

Once amd is gone we won’t need to hear about there crap cards anymore

@davidjames4583 2 ай бұрын

MSI rocks !!! 😎

@TheRealClaylex 2 ай бұрын

Guess I'm skipping MSI than for the future

@redclaw72666 2 ай бұрын

Man no wonder MSI works especially for my 10900k at 5.3ghz with 32gb ram hitting at 4533mhz 16-17-17-35 on a z590 unify X paired with a MSI rtx 4090 liquid X working flawless as hell