MTB Headset Tech | Everything You Should Know About Mountain Bike Headsets

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3 жыл бұрын

The headset is one of the most important parts of a bike! But understanding which standard you need can be confusing... And why do they keep changing? In this video, we take a look at everything you need to know about headset standards: past, present and what's coming up in the future! - ⏰ Time Stamps 👇
🔘 00:33 - Modern Headsets
🔘 01:12 - Traditional Headsets
🔘 05:34 - The A Headset
🔘 07:39 - A Headset Development
🔘 09:15 - Headset Standards Explained
🔘 10:52 - Steerer Tube Development
🔘 13:16 - Where Are We Today?
🔘 17:25 - What's The Future Of Headset Standards?
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@drmoynihan
@drmoynihan 3 жыл бұрын
Over the years I have had to deal with just getting my simple bikes greased up and rolling. I had no idea of the complexities that the pros were dealing with. I am glad that they have it all figured out and I can enjoy my "simple" tapered headset that still intimidates me. Thank you Doddy - glad there are guys like you to help guys like me.
@Pillokun
@Pillokun 3 жыл бұрын
Nomnomnom, we need more, maybe brakes? dont forget the rimbrake with ceramic coated rims if you do... :)
@mikes4163
@mikes4163 3 жыл бұрын
820 likes, 0 dislikes. That's the first time I've seen a video with significant responses and no dislikes. You must be loved Doddy 😍
@CommaCam
@CommaCam 3 жыл бұрын
These part-specific videos are really excellent Doddy. I appreciate the historical discussions and the comprehensive effort you're putting into these.
@peterwhittemore2720
@peterwhittemore2720 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant advice as I'm going to be upgrading my front end. Very useful 👌
@chriskelley2075
@chriskelley2075 3 жыл бұрын
I want to be like Doddy when I grow up! Outstanding Video, I remember the quill stems. Thanks so much for this incredible lesson on headsets.
@lostboy8814
@lostboy8814 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great tutorial on headsets thanks Doddy you're a star,that was very comprehensive mate,first class.
@igorcvetkovic2112
@igorcvetkovic2112 3 ай бұрын
great review. answered my questions in a nice organized way
@stewheelie7874
@stewheelie7874 9 ай бұрын
Great presentation, i have spent the last few days reading about headsets, this was a nice way of reconfirming my learning.
@randyjohnson7821
@randyjohnson7821 3 жыл бұрын
With the help of your guides and this great history lesson I discovered (very luckily) that my 1993 Trek 8300 headset is indeed a Dia-Compe Aheadset and I'm in the process of upgrading the solid Cro-Moly fork to a Rockshox Recon suspended fork. It's pretty neat to think I've got a nearly 30 year old bike with tech on it that was the predecessor to most modern headsets and frankly lucky because I had already bought the fork without understanding well enough how the pieces fit together. And the pieces fit together!
@jediali221
@jediali221 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Reminds me of all the fiddling I did on old bikes. Hated quill stems. One odd little consideration is the Oneup EDC tool that replaces the star fangled nut with an internal steerer tube thread and special open top cap. I think that is just neater overall regardless of tool space it gives.
@OlleyThorpe
@OlleyThorpe 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this one. Your videos are getting better and better. Big inspo 😎
@bobissik3478
@bobissik3478 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! So much has become clear with this awesome video! Thank you!
@JoolsTurrall
@JoolsTurrall Жыл бұрын
Great explanation, right amount of detail and covered a lot of years and changes of the headset. I am still riding my 97 Kona hei hei and knew it was an Aheadset but wasn't aware of more recent changes, just took my forks off for a service, after a long time sat in the garage unridden, and realised I need a new headset, the minefield of new headset types had me a wee bit confused. So this video has put me straight. Thanks
@markymarkpowpow
@markymarkpowpow 3 жыл бұрын
very knowledgeable as usual, so thank you for sharing!
@williamj3459
@williamj3459 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Thanks very much. Keep them coming!
@ruabonite
@ruabonite 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explainer,I started out in 1989 with Muddy Fox and after several riding hiatus's (if that's a word!),am now putting together a hybrid bike using mixed age componentry,so this really levelled the field for me 😀👍
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 3 жыл бұрын
The guy I used to ride with had the cone wrenches screwed under his bottle cage. He was a life saver for many people on the trails. Even after he got a bike with threadless, he still mounted the wrenches under the cages for years for some reason.
@edwardrowland1853
@edwardrowland1853 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, informative, with great attention to detail, excellent video for those interested in bikes.
@launisteemu
@launisteemu Жыл бұрын
Bravo! What an info about headsets. I am still standing and clapping my hands.
@stillwill1808
@stillwill1808 Ай бұрын
You really delivered on this video. That was so much info so fast that was easy to digest and more interesting than headsets should be. I'm subscribed . Hope you made a bunch of these covering other components.
@charlieroberts3171
@charlieroberts3171 3 жыл бұрын
earliest ive been to a video, been looking for a vid like this for a while :)
@MrPyadster
@MrPyadster 2 жыл бұрын
Bought new hope headset not a clue how to fit it now i do you are a life saver 😎👍
@ElburroE
@ElburroE 21 күн бұрын
Perfect explanation. Thank you.
@ronaldquint
@ronaldquint 3 жыл бұрын
Intelligently explained ! Thank you !
@Mattcamel51
@Mattcamel51 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and very helpful. Thank you!
@moritzdo8305
@moritzdo8305 3 жыл бұрын
Sick, just went through the jungle of finding a new headset for my 2007 Cannondale Rush 3. Would helped a ton of this video would be out sooner. But I'm glad that all I found out was right.
@billywilliams8833
@billywilliams8833 2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of or had a threaded headset rattle loose as you said here, 40 years of Bmx, Road and Mtb riding. Also 2 brothers and a sister heavily involved in cycling and never a problem if tightened correctly!!
@ahamilton1305
@ahamilton1305 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, understand it now!
@jgsimons
@jgsimons 3 жыл бұрын
Great topic and video. Thanks!
@BernhardSchlegel
@BernhardSchlegel 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, really sorted this chaotic topic for me. Thanks for including history:) well done 👍
@eric-rogers
@eric-rogers 9 ай бұрын
Fantastic vid, well done!
@df0rce
@df0rce 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I missed words about the Stiffmaster
@molluscturtle
@molluscturtle 3 ай бұрын
Doddy could make a great lecturer - really explains things well.
@RadovanKrejci
@RadovanKrejci 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. With history, one understands WHY things are the way they are. Thank you.
@DirtyPandaMTB
@DirtyPandaMTB 3 жыл бұрын
very cool video! so much information. Thank you so much for this video, keep up the good work!
@Peterkr10
@Peterkr10 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to watch. How about the history of bottom brackets?
@Rustyfox46
@Rustyfox46 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Doddy!!! How those bearings have changed, the old ball bearings rolling around the garage floor, 🤣🤣
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, in the bikeshop where I worked during university, we had drawers with spare balls of all sizes.
@benfowler16
@benfowler16 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome as allways keep it up guys
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 3 жыл бұрын
My Bolt uses a tapered IS headset and it's just a joy to work with.
@brucewilliams259
@brucewilliams259 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing! My bike mechanic shied away from my headset but watching this I can’t see why. I will dismantle mine and note the kit I need to replace. Thanks #gmbn.
@bongocat5223
@bongocat5223 3 жыл бұрын
Very weird, headsets are one of the easiest parts to work on
@jdillon8360
@jdillon8360 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@silviutanase6141
@silviutanase6141 Жыл бұрын
learned so much in 18 minutes, thanks !
@gmbntech
@gmbntech Жыл бұрын
Thanks! We're glad it helped.
@kleofasskozacki9668
@kleofasskozacki9668 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!
@joaovieira3264
@joaovieira3264 3 жыл бұрын
Doddy being brilliant, again!
@frankthetankricard
@frankthetankricard 3 жыл бұрын
I've got some less than pleasant flashbacks to the threads getting shredded off those old threaded steerer forks we had when I was a kid. These were cheap department store bikes but they planted a deep seated hatred for the standard. Quill stems make me dizzy on sight. I still remember the screams of the material as we overtightened the stem to the point of what feels like friction welding in hopes that it will stay in place for a few days. Only to be rewarded with a crooked handlebar after just rolling off a curb.
@HermanHermDawgCasaol
@HermanHermDawgCasaol 2 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful
@dragoclarke9497
@dragoclarke9497 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained.
@RicardoPetrazzi
@RicardoPetrazzi 3 жыл бұрын
The Hope Headset guide was invaluable to me! It is a great resource
@Erafune
@Erafune 3 ай бұрын
Perfect. Headset top and bottom has always been one of the most boring parts of the bike to get into. But now shopping for a new fork and figuring out if I can fit the same crown race and headsets to both my bikes (and how to remove the old one) to allow both forks on both bikes is soooo confusing.
@lunara69
@lunara69 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks!
@gmbntech
@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed!
@stevenconnor4221
@stevenconnor4221 3 жыл бұрын
That should have been me, i argued with other mtb or roadies in the 80s at the start of my engineering carrer for using catrige bearings and tapered head tubes. I got told its to heavy or loose bearings take less load per bearing.. ah i coulda been a millionare by now lol 😁
@Bianchiboy
@Bianchiboy 3 жыл бұрын
The Flexstem... I had an old Proflex with one of these, and I think it had cotton wool for the rear shock!
@SubmarinersDive
@SubmarinersDive 3 жыл бұрын
Top Job Dr. Doddy! 🍻
@anastasioskondakos2090
@anastasioskondakos2090 3 жыл бұрын
0 dislikes! So proud of this community!!
@Sibert_
@Sibert_ 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to dislike Doddy! :)
@maxs.2073
@maxs.2073 3 жыл бұрын
still
@nosreuter
@nosreuter 2 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary, as always, if that's even possible?!
@DeanH51
@DeanH51 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am considering building up my first bike, and this headset stuff was a bit of mystery. Very helpful!
@01FozzyS
@01FozzyS 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of those Fisher Evolution systems on my 1990 Fisher Advance.
@arthurgolubev
@arthurgolubev 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you VERY much for this video! I've been struggling to understand standards and technical part of headsets and you just got everything set up in my brain nicely!
@tonychambers2106
@tonychambers2106 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel
@romeohernandez6601
@romeohernandez6601 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video!! Can You tell me what Headset I need for a Cannondale Trail One SL 2021 tapered..
@danielv6954
@danielv6954 3 жыл бұрын
Doddy, massive thanks! Just what I needed :). Building a "frankenbike" for the neighbor's kid :)
@grantschmitt6098
@grantschmitt6098 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Fankenbike, I have plans to remove threaded rigid fork with quill style bar mount from a classic Trek and upgraded it. Are these old forks likely to have 1.125 head tubes that are easily upgraded to thread less?
@chubscoi
@chubscoi 3 жыл бұрын
Finally!!! Found the answer if I can use a Tapered fork on my 44mm straight headtube
@livinlarge1247
@livinlarge1247 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful videos. I have an 06 Specialized S-Works Stumpjumper with a "Mindset" (headset) integrated into its FACT carbon frame. I am figuring it out.
@mattkavanaugh5623
@mattkavanaugh5623 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Doddy is the best! Walking through the history and evolution of the headset made it much easier to grasp the big picture and the system as a whole. Well done.
@joeyd1636
@joeyd1636 Жыл бұрын
Girvin flex stem! Classic!
@russjohnston1186
@russjohnston1186 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. How about doing one for bottom brackets??
@MariusTheDude
@MariusTheDude 3 жыл бұрын
great show and tell doddy
@AlBorland3877
@AlBorland3877 3 жыл бұрын
#AskGMBNTech Doddy, do the same with bottom brackets. You might need a 2 part video. ^^ Keep up the great work. Informative and entertaining.
@rogergrant455
@rogergrant455 3 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive as always, Doddy! Many thanks. Keep up the good work. God bless!
@dylan-5287
@dylan-5287 3 жыл бұрын
I love all of the history of mtb type videos, definitely some of the best explaining how things have come to be. Your guys retro bike and visiting Marin, CA and repack mountain are some of my favorite videos.
@MyNate1980
@MyNate1980 3 жыл бұрын
That girvin flex stem. Memories of only dampening shock on my bikes.
@andrec230
@andrec230 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys great video, I have a question, In the product description for the SID Ultimate Race Day Suspension Fork - 29", 120 mm say that it is Crown OD (mm) 58. Is that means doesn't fit in a ZS44/28.6 ZS56/40 head set (for the Scott Scale 965)? Thanks for the answer
@hitary1
@hitary1 3 жыл бұрын
This is so good. More in depth videos like this.
@nicolegreen6497
@nicolegreen6497 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@crookedcrank2566
@crookedcrank2566 3 жыл бұрын
Love the detail Doddy. Great vid!
@djhillesq
@djhillesq 3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid. I love these history of MTB tech videos. Keep them coming!
@NS-zv9qf
@NS-zv9qf 3 жыл бұрын
great video to watch as I build up my dream bike as an adolescent - the univega alpina ultima - with a threaded steerer. Wow can I pull back my ebay bids to spend 1k for my recreation?
@mikekeen9710
@mikekeen9710 3 жыл бұрын
now i understand it much better thank you thank you doody from new zealand
@nicholashooper9935
@nicholashooper9935 Ай бұрын
Still have my Diamondback Apex 1994. With a very early Aheadset
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a comprehensive overview!
@Dano71R
@Dano71R 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Doddy, I was about to close the vid and then at min 18.20 there it appeared: Thok TK01 with the 1.8 lower bearing! I have ordered a TK01 (base model) and realized that if I don't like that fork I have very little aftermarket options to choose from. This brings me to almost panic mode! I might just cancel my order (due end of june 2021)! Do you know if it is possible to mount another brand (1.5") fork, maybe with some sort of spacer in that housing? Cheers love the channel!! OH, it would be great if GMBN or EMBN did a special on "new modern headsets" ;)
@pieterbaert
@pieterbaert 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. A lot of knowledge. A top cam shot on the hands would be handy to see the details on the table.
@scarboroughriders
@scarboroughriders 3 жыл бұрын
500 meter allen key! Holy jebus thats a big one doddy
@jaywomer2313
@jaywomer2313 6 ай бұрын
I have that exact headset never had an issue with it
@urmomentum1679
@urmomentum1679 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Currently sat trying to figure out what a Semi Integrated set is? Wanting to upgrade my 2010 Cube Fritzz with the NP HZN headset to match my NP HZN stem & bars... Now not so sure I can? Original is a FSA Orbit Z 1.5R semi-integrated which I can find no info/specs on.....sat on Fox 36 TALAS ?? This chick needs a coffee!?
@RodZamora_is_the_best
@RodZamora_is_the_best 3 жыл бұрын
You're one of the most educational and enjoyable bike educators. I've learnt so much since I started watching your videos.
@karlovuja5034
@karlovuja5034 3 жыл бұрын
Always been confused by headsets. Thought those model numbers were proprietary to certain brands. Thanks!
@newttella1043
@newttella1043 3 жыл бұрын
The worse thing about headsets were that they rarely came with instructions. Some didn't come with crown races, or probably the shop had opened the box and misplaced it.
@KSIXRIDER
@KSIXRIDER 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
3 жыл бұрын
Great video ;-)
@chrisridesbicycles
@chrisridesbicycles 3 жыл бұрын
I think the history of tech brought into the industry by Gary Fisher might be worth a video.
@djhillesq
@djhillesq 3 жыл бұрын
I second this.
@MikhailSharpowicz
@MikhailSharpowicz 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think we have time!!
@jhoughjr1
@jhoughjr1 2 жыл бұрын
Ive been to Durango. My aunt lived in Delores.
@markmoreno7295
@markmoreno7295 3 жыл бұрын
Quite informative. Pushed me across the suscribe line. Would have like to have seen a few more closeups, but I suppose these are to be seen in the link. One question. On a modern (2021) co-moly steel frame with steel forks, is the steering tube aluminum or steel?
@InsanercYT
@InsanercYT Жыл бұрын
most likely steel
@siwalder1618
@siwalder1618 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing... literally the last part of my bike to upgrade
@GokkunGuru
@GokkunGuru 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Aheadset system you speak of on my 2005 Devinci MTB. I can’t get the cups out. They seem pressed into the head tube. I want to take them out so I can clean and re-grease the bearings. Are the bearings pressed into the cups so if I can’t simply replace the bearings? Thanks
@chimps4gimps
@chimps4gimps 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thanks Doddy! That’s the exact Nukeproof headset going on my new build too 😄
@sbrinton3
@sbrinton3 3 жыл бұрын
Doddy, you are awesome! Thanks for the tutorial.
@pakiw2
@pakiw2 Жыл бұрын
Oh. Have "vintage" German bike from 90's, with 37mm tube diameter. What a pain to find anything. No headsets of any description, anywhere - non, zero. Had to source custom adapters which could accept 34mm headsets. 😁
@Lutze3D
@Lutze3D 3 жыл бұрын
The headset of the 2021 Canyon Spectral 29 looks different to me, or can it be replaced with any other modern headsets?
@thatonetexan2103
@thatonetexan2103 2 жыл бұрын
Can any headset bearings be replaced with sealed bearings? I have a 2021 Scott spark 960
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