MTB Suspension Setup For Your Bodyweight

MTB Suspension Setup For Your Bodyweight | Fox Pro Tune

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2 жыл бұрын

A fine-tuned suspension setup is the key to feeling confident when mountain biking! In this video, Anna took a trip to the Fox suspension servicing headquarters to get a pro suspension tune from a Fox expert. Whether you're a lighter or heavier rider, this video will give you an in-depth look at your ideal suspension setup!
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@Oldcrankcase 2 жыл бұрын

Standing quickly into the attack position is going to drive the sag indicator quite a bit farther than just sitting on the bike and rising gently out of the seat to dismount. Previous videos by GMBN, Fox and others recommend bouncing to eliminate stiction, settling into position, setting the indicator and then gently dismounting.

@rider65 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, very good points. The stanchions and dust seals need to be clean first. A little fork oil or silicone to lubricate the dust seals after they're clean. Then cycle the forks through two or three compressions of travel to eliminate stiction as you referred to. 👍 Also no need to be in the attack position when you are measuring sag.

@stevowyeth 2 жыл бұрын

@@rider65 you should be in the riding position when setting sag. It makes sense to set the suspension up in the position you will most commonly be in when riding and altering your position changes your weight distribution on the bike.

@muzman777 Жыл бұрын

This guys description is clear as mud!

@williamsweet7511 2 жыл бұрын

As a mountain biker and motocross rider, getting a good tune on your suspension makes more difference than anything. When your bike is under control, it's safer, more comfortable to ride, you can ride longer, faster and in control. To anyone on the fence about the cost, do it, you will not regret it.

@toneloke7489 2 жыл бұрын

Just a note, most riders probably know this, but when adjusting your sag settings, make sure your in your normal riding kit, helmet, hydration pack, ect...I carry a liter of water in my hydration pack, and it definitely affects my sag settings 🤘🤘🚴‍♂️

@evangoff4363 2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome Anna, but I think I'll need to watch this a few times to get it all into my head.

@billderas3420 9 ай бұрын

Just watched this video for the umpteenth time and derive something useful every time. Great job Anna!

@erickthe1st 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Finally a video the shows you what to do when setting SAG. Most videos tell you to first set it and add or remove air pressure but, don’t explain when to add or release air. Also what each dial setting best explained!

@kevinwood8021 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent walkthrough for this average Joe. An easy to understand processes too.🤙

@257sombra 2 жыл бұрын

thanks for the video, please more videos like these. very helpfull. good job

@trevorwillis9958 2 жыл бұрын

So good to see you got the job! from the appliance repair man In Worthing mid lockdown regards Trevor

@drMomirPantelic Жыл бұрын

the best explanation on how to set these complex gems up! I’m saving it! thanks ❤

@NDemanuele1 15 күн бұрын

Perfect timing! I just got this shock as a replacement for my X2 from Fox. Tuning is a pain in the ass in my experience!...LOL. I'm one of those people who sets it and forgets it!...LOL. I hate fiddling around with it. A mechanic once told me the best way to set it up is on the trail with a shock pump!

@AtomicCheese92 2 жыл бұрын

The new factory mega is such a nice looking bike!

@michaelwoodward5787 2 жыл бұрын

I think Anna is perfect and that bike is quite nice too.

@Pienimusta 2 жыл бұрын

Would love a deep dive video on coil shock tuning.

@rider65 2 жыл бұрын

Check out Steve from Vorsprung

@johnreese3762 2 жыл бұрын

Great info/video, thanks!!

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, John! 🙌

@Lineysraceroom Жыл бұрын

This video is awesome, thanks

@eddierivera7803 2 жыл бұрын

Great in depth video Anna keep up the good work!

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support!

@wadecaldwell7210 2 жыл бұрын

OI, gmbn is my new fav…. MTB and Anna, too right!!

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Ayyy! Thanks for the support! 👊

@messisteve6163 2 жыл бұрын

Great video guide as can use that when I build up my dh bike, cheers

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found this useful! Thanks for the support!

@emfry821 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid, appreciate the content.

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🙌

@sbbeowulf8296 2 жыл бұрын

I’m very very light and I find I like my fork tuned up a little high with pretty fast rebound and rear I run a fast rebound and recommended pressure

@gazzas28 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting and informative.

@toneloke7489 2 жыл бұрын

I have the the fit4 damper on my Fox factory 36, and it feels great, but it's cool that you just swap it out for the new grip without buying a new fork👍

@I-Love-Taylor-Swift 2 жыл бұрын

Need to tune my new Orange suspension (never had full sus in my life, so this is all new). Great vid. Also, Anna is gorgeous!!

@medyaker2 2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done

@JJ-JUJITSU 2 жыл бұрын

Hey keep up the good work also the fox rear and fork is the best right

@chillibiker 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video Anna! The one thing that confuses me is suspension. Seeing this video that shows it simplified is a great help. Thanks x

@yengsabio5315 2 жыл бұрын

Ditto! Lots'a love, cheers, & Mabuhay, from tropical Philippines! #KeepBiking

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you found this detailed walk through beneficial! Thanks for the support and safe riding! 👍

@bluestraycat 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent detailed, in depth explanation, seems there's always something to learn when it comes to suspension

@adamwaz5615 7 ай бұрын

Beautiful bike 😍

@tundeade9417 2 жыл бұрын

I use a bit of the information in here and that of Doddy and my common sense to see up my suspension and I can feel a real difference

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

That's great! It can be good to hear different people's opinions and what feels good to you. 👍

@GCarnell 8 ай бұрын

Great presentation. As usual, I learned quite a bit about my MTB and its potential. My takeaway: Take my bike to the nearest Trek shop for significant adjustments. 😂

@powertapping 2 жыл бұрын

That was really well done Anna, good questions and informative answers with just enough IMO to give me options. For all of us not riding top of the line gear a video with this depth on lesser kits would be helpful.

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Robert! Glad you loved the video! That's a great video idea! 👍

@weathdone 2 жыл бұрын

its same concept for any price suspension... Sag , comp, Reb.. alot of cheaper models will just have less adjustments overall.. but concept on how to tune is the same..

@topchoice1621 Жыл бұрын

@@gmbntech Anna is so beautiful 😻 and the bike is sexy

@averagepinoyrider8114 2 жыл бұрын

love those orange compression knob…is there anyway we can buy that online thanks

@stevebennett3587 2 жыл бұрын

😅I will stick to hardtails, a nice bit of kit though that nukefroof, I suppose when its set up, it will be a hell of buzz to ride👍

@krzysiu4003 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. I'm quite light and the rebound on my lyrik is totally open. HS compression is totally open too. Have been thinking I might get a lighter tune just so I have a bit more to play with.

@Xtreme_Outdoors Жыл бұрын

On my full suspension my front forks have adjustable things on them but no matter how much I turn them they are too hard. I think it is because I am not heavy enough. Still learning about suspension on my bike. 👍🏻

@thelittleewokboss9929 Жыл бұрын

Guessing it’s a basic suntour?

@Seppster58 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Anna. I just went from hardtail to a full suspension bike and this helped greatly in understanding what I have and how to adjust it. Just waiting for this Canadian spring to warm up and then out to do my rides. Another win for GMBN. And by the way, love the colour co-ordination between the bike and your kit!!! 🥰

@bobothericefarmer1878 2 жыл бұрын

Cool

@stevowyeth 2 жыл бұрын

Why is the suspension tech setting the adjusters from the open position when the manual for both fork and shock clearly state the opposite?

@youngstadan4999 2 ай бұрын

Makes no difference other than the wat you twist the nob. If it feels good 4 clicks in it'll feel the same as how many clicks out it'll take to get to the same position. But yea I always go from full open / off

@stevowyeth Ай бұрын

@@youngstadan4999 it’s a tutorial video, they should be explaining how to do things properly so that it’s not confusing for those that don’t know better.

@ThisIs4Cody 10 ай бұрын

Should the LSC knob be fully open (i.e. minimum dampening, fully counterclockwise) when setting sag on a Fox shock?

@jesusguido6986 5 ай бұрын

What settings would you recommend for an enduro with technical and gnarly trails. No jumps, but mostly dh technical, with 1-3ft drops.

@10-Man 8 ай бұрын

Im seeing this late, but That is a Sharp looking NukeProof, i think i missed the boat on that color! But i like it!

@thedude669 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that you set base compression & damping from open when the manual recommends from closed? Any reason for this?

@MTBCY 2 жыл бұрын

Great video but aren't you suppose to set sag and air pressure when you are fully kitted up to ride

@jmtn67 2 жыл бұрын

Loved that tech breakdown for air shocks ,could Gmbn tech do a breakdown for us coil shock users please I’m running Ohlins coil front and rear on a Enduro large and although the size feels right and I love the comfort I am probably on the lighter side too and I’ve barely ever used 50% of the travel

@ShoneDaddy 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried a lighter coil?

@jmtn67 2 жыл бұрын

@@ShoneDaddy no not yet Though I plan to do that soon

@ShoneDaddy 2 жыл бұрын

@@jmtn67 yea man if you’re not passing half travel your spring is too heavy

@ShoneDaddy 2 жыл бұрын

@@jmtn67 yea man if you’re not passing half travel your spring is too heavy

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Hey John! That would be a good video idea. Although, we would suggest trying a different coil with a lighter/lower spring rate! 👍

@cezarh5473 2 жыл бұрын

Will 5w Motorex oil make a fork more sensitive instead of using 15w Motorex oil?

@jasonsalt524 6 ай бұрын

Are you setting up the sag with the shock in fully open or in trail mode?

@guitarist1025 7 ай бұрын

I'm confused, Fox manual says start at closed position ( fully clockwise) but here you start fully open (anti clockwise)

@bigfootnz 2 жыл бұрын

14:59 Bless you

@OnlyJRMYDAVE Жыл бұрын

Whats the code o product number of that tool to adjust the shock? Sadly its not included in x2 anymore

@brothereldrian9913 2 жыл бұрын

I feel you, Anna. 62 kg myself at 1,74m. But with protection and a waterbladder in my backpack I go up to 65 kg. ^^ It's weight tuning the other way round I guess.

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's true! We would always recommend you set sag up using your riding weight. 👍

@AFV85 Ай бұрын

Can Fox supply a new rear X2 tunned instead of sending my own away? I'm looking for a firmer-tuned X2. The new Float X I got on my new bike won't sit in its sag. I'm a heavier rider and have to accept 40%, but I'm finally starting to lose weight! I'd still like to buy a new 2024 X2 since they have a new tune. My Fox Float X from 2022, brand new, came with a 0.9 spacer. I'm sure the next one up, 1 mm, won't make any difference at all, and that's it at its max for my bike according to the Fox chart. That's at 300 PSI. It does say the max is 350 PSI, but it doesn't take more than 300 PSI in the EVOL.

@aftondanforth7387 2 жыл бұрын

do you mind sharing your settings?

@lindawilliams3947 2 жыл бұрын

What do the terms progressive and linear mean?

@fud1376 2 жыл бұрын

When ever one of my mates asks for a go on my bike ,I always say No, as its got a weight restriction on it.....Ha !!!

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Brilliant excuse! 😂

@Dantutz 4 ай бұрын

Now this is quite a smart, technically inclined lady. Wtg!

@jaegpsde3877 2 жыл бұрын

23:14 Definitely some flirting in the eye contact!

@stewartjackson1821 2 жыл бұрын

I can't seem to get my sag right on my dpx2, 180mm travel. I am 90kg and have 280lb air pressure with the largest volume reducer still have 35% sag think I need to be neerer 20% sag. Wish I had someone near me that could sort properly

@chimps4gimps 2 жыл бұрын

I presume you should set your suspension up with your intended riding gear on? The amount of water you carry would be a variable to consider too.

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you are spot on! Setting your suspension up with your riding weight is the most accurate method and will make you feel the most comfortable on the bike! 🙌

@chimps4gimps 2 жыл бұрын

@@gmbntech Cheers. I’ve still no clue what I’m doing though. Just read a lot 😂

@gingerb36 2 жыл бұрын

My 36 grip 2 is so smooth, much better than my old pike fork

@rider65 2 жыл бұрын

Sag is a result of Pre Loading the spring. I.E.- air or coil. Preload is the amount of weight on the suspension. It determines the amount of travel. Static sag, is sag under no weight. Race or Ride sag, is the amount of spring compression under weight.

@tony2000and10 2 жыл бұрын

I'm just here to stare at that reactor.. dream bike oh yeaa

@pernyberg2816 2 жыл бұрын

Can't anyone make a video how the float x2 performance works?

@youngstadan4999 24 күн бұрын

I'm having this problem with my fox 38z min ruder weight says 55kg I've lost 3 stone and I'm 50kg now. Trying to get some fitness back. But yea the rear I can get right ( fox nude) but the fork even if I drop the psi to like 50k still don't get the right sag. I think it comes with 2 tokens will removing 1 or both make a difference? Anyone know?

@rider65 2 жыл бұрын

If you're in favor of a linear feel on the suspension you're better off with a coil spring shock. Slight weight penalty, but far better performance through the entire stroke.

@th_js 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah.

@petesmitt 2 жыл бұрын

Makes me appreciate my non suspension single speed mtb; nothing to faff with..

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's a lot easier to look after! 😅

@ddslang4187 9 ай бұрын

I feel that the amount of available settings and tuning options of the X2 is not manageable for non-pro riders.

@superchickensoup 2 жыл бұрын

Charlie Dimmock is about to get her sag checked. I hope this guy has a big sagometer

@saracen6191 2 жыл бұрын

I have had 5 mtb bikes and 2 e bikes 2 with remote adjustment I have never messed with suspension If it cushions rough terrain good

@brettclark3885 Жыл бұрын

the decision to remove a spacer from the Shock should have been the first step; then measure the sag and 4-way adjustments.

@hendo896 2 жыл бұрын

I got a new hardtail a few months ago. My fork just wont go down. With all my weight, I can get it down a few millimetres at best. I am 14 and I think I am normal weight. The fork isnt rusty. The bike is second hand. I don't know what to do. I don't really feel comfortable to take it apart and play around with it as I use it every day to get to school and don't want to mess it up.i got my bike serviced a while ago but no change.i can't afford to go to a bike shop and get it sorted. What should I do?

@Taylor5084 Жыл бұрын

Try letting all the pressure out of the fork and see if it fully compresses. If it doesn’t it might be air trapped in the negative spring which you can solve by sliding a cable tie down the fork seal and you will hear the air release. Then reinflate your fork to the correct sag and it should work 100 times better.

@hendo896 Жыл бұрын

@@Taylor5084 thanks, dont I need a shock pump for that?

@jimrutherford2773 2 жыл бұрын

Do these Fox forks have an absolute lock out mode or does it use the slow speed compression/ rebound as the so called lock out?

@Windband1 2 жыл бұрын

The FIT4 fork comes pretty close.

@thim8009 2 жыл бұрын

What happens when your heavy, and I want to add volume spacers in float x shock and Fox or specialized can't tell you the largest one you can put in.

@weathdone 2 жыл бұрын

great vid... one thing though.. ur not suppose to change every setting all at once.. you are suppose to adjust one thing at a time.. very easy to get lost and not know what adjustment did what.... Just sayin!!!! And it is pain in butt to get most suspensions adjusted great for a very light rider... if ur not a pro mechanic it can def be pain ...

@Sixbillion1 2 жыл бұрын

im on the fence about this stuff... as an average rider

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Having your suspension set up perfectly makes your bike feel so in tune with your own way of riding! It's well worth setting it up! 👍

@wizard604 2 жыл бұрын

The fox tech needs to take a refresher. I notice he does the adjustments from fully open vs fully closed as recommended by fox. Also he makes no mention of the recommended bases settings which fox has listed on their website. Also he makes no mention of the fox ID code which you can use to find what the specifics are for your shock. Also he is quite vague about the differences between HSR/LSR HSC/LSC. Seems to me that he knows more about how to service a fork or shock vs how they perform. Or perhaps he's just good at articulating what he knows 🤷

@phorest 2 жыл бұрын

I don't want to be too harsh but also his "there's your 18mm of sag" was actually a clearly visible 15.5mm, and that was after Anna bounced the sag ring even a little higher as she dismounted. He was either a bit out of his depth or mayby too nervous being on camera to focus on what he was doing?

@stevecrump1375 2 жыл бұрын

Hey...Nice bike but im not a fan of the blue and yellow. ..

@kaluginden Жыл бұрын

4:05 40% from what? it is time to learn)

@wrongsend7106 11 ай бұрын

Not everybody have an access for professional tuning . So we’re on our own. 😔

@Mastereur411 2 жыл бұрын

Why running a 38 when your as light weight, and are these 780 handle bars or what? I think that the best solution would be to runna 36 and a coil shock in the back that way your not on a « stiff » fork chassis and the rear coil shock could perform way better with your weight….

@bikebudha01 Жыл бұрын

62 kils = 132lbs... My wife is 120lbs (54kilos). You have no idea how hard it is to get the suspension soft enough...

@timowolfer6307 2 жыл бұрын

Im just a bit confused regarding the sag setting. Isn’t below 3cm of sag too little? I thought its calculated like this: travel*sag percentage. So 170mm of front travel * 30% sag = 51mm. And same for the shock. Am I wrong or is there something different with these high end components? I’m riding a canyon spectral 125 with 25% sag, so ca. 31 mm in the rear (125mm shock) and 35mm in the frond (140mm fork). I’m new to this stuff so I am kinda confused.

@nickcarapiet4051 2 жыл бұрын

For the fork you have the correct formula as it is a direct 1:1 ratio. However the shock works on a leverage ratio so it is unlikely that the shock stroke is the full 125mm. It is likely to be more like a 50mm stroke shock, so using your formula 50*0.25 (for 25% sag) = 12.5mm on the o-ring. I couldn't see anywhere on Canyon's website where it states the shock stroke but, a lot of new shocks have the sag percentage markers engraved on them already. Nice bike by the way, wish they had my size in stock.

@Pienimusta 2 жыл бұрын

Your rear shock is probably close to 60% sag. Rear travel of the bike is not same as rear schock's travel. The new 38 has really low recommended sag, around 15-20% recommended by the Fox. Most forks are in between the 20-30.

@timowolfer6307 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickcarapiet4051 thanks :) yeah I was quick when they released the bike. Got myself the AL6 since its my first full-sus

@timowolfer6307 2 жыл бұрын

@@Pienimusta Good to know. Thanks for the help. I just watched some videos about it and it seems some were wrong xD

@Uathankicks 2 жыл бұрын

Measure how much the shock body travels and divide by the uncompressed length. That’s your sag.

@liquidSpin 2 жыл бұрын

What if you're light or what if you're too heavy? OR what if you're just a bad ass gnarly shredding speed machine?.....not saying I am, just asking for a friend.

@alejandronannini8675 Жыл бұрын

sorry, but ,you should start by fully closed position(clock wise)

@guitarist1025 7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I got confused too, manual says start at fully closed, full clockwise.

@westoe Жыл бұрын

The real battle was her trying to convince the poor man that 135 psi was enough for her weight but obviously not🤦🏽

@massimilianomolinari7846 Жыл бұрын

❤really interesting video for properly setting up a Fox Float X2 rear shock. And you are the dream of woman that every biker would like to marry!!! 😊

@brentcollins9727 2 ай бұрын

Negligence

@jinavl 2 жыл бұрын

Anna is a great presenter..easy on the eyes too🤙🤙..no offense doddy but shes got ya beat...by a mile...lol

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Anna is doing such a great job. Anna took to presenting so naturally and has been handing out her expert bike knowledge so well! 👊

@bladerr900 2 жыл бұрын

I notice that the presenters hardly ever ware gloves even in winter why is that I never ride without gloves they have saved my skin on several occasions literally saved my skin 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

@gmbntech 2 жыл бұрын

Hey! It's all personal preference at the end of the day. The large majority of mountain bikers wear gloves. 👍

@cheryee3659 2 жыл бұрын

N2 will be better

@klendatas1 Жыл бұрын

Was looking bit random when he was adjusting or "explaining" like some friend who's bit more advanced then you, but not a professional. Sorry

@rercowie77 2 жыл бұрын

This video is terrible advice! Stick to watching Fox guides on set-up or any of the countless other videos on this topic.

@heathnortonflag 2 жыл бұрын

Can we please stop with the annoying background music?

@curtisb9424 6 ай бұрын

this seems like a pointless vid and the fox tech guy doesn’t really seem to understand why she’s there

@southpawlibranine3511 Жыл бұрын

What size is the bike and whats your height

@southpawlibranine3511 Жыл бұрын

You should be winding from the closed the position. How does a fox tech not know this

@sportiefbezigutrecht3883 2 жыл бұрын

This is not a great video. Seating on you’re bike without any protection, backpack and stuff you’re weight is lighter. Remove ‘tokens’ after tuning all the oil settings 🫣

@southpawlibranine3511 Жыл бұрын

How the hell can someone be 35 psi under. They shouldnt be working as a bike journalist if they dont even know the basics