MTG Nethroi, Apex of Death Deck Tech Commander / EDH Biollante - IKORIA Lair of Behemoths

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Aristocards

Aristocards

4 жыл бұрын

Nethroi, Apex of Death is a new #MTG Legendary Creature coming in #Ikoria Lair of Behemoths and has an alternate card of Biollante, Plant Beast Form. He brings back mass graveyard retrieval in a big and new way that I'm excited about for this deck tech here on #Aristocards. The full decklist: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nethr...

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@rolfy172
@rolfy172 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely forgot about Hermit Druid. card is bonkers for this.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Good call!
@MOUKIAZOUIZ
@MOUKIAZOUIZ 4 жыл бұрын
Love it, but I would add a few more Mutate creatures of low mutate cost, in case we want to cast Nethroi normally, then mutate something else on him to trigger for cheaper mana.
@brianfaust1862
@brianfaust1862 4 жыл бұрын
"I need it, buy it, store it." - Tony Stark, quoting me.
@gwendolynbarnett9233
@gwendolynbarnett9233 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect idea for that commander. I totally want to do that now.
@megabubfish
@megabubfish 4 жыл бұрын
This has given me some new ideas for this card, and I was already beyond excited for it. Cheers!
@FyreMagyk67
@FyreMagyk67 4 жыл бұрын
Well well well! This is quite the outstanding deck tech! I'm pleasantly surprised by this find but, that is simply a testament to your ingenuity and how good this set is shaping up to be!
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Doctor!
@13Krandy
@13Krandy 4 жыл бұрын
You cannot mutate Bassara Tower Archer because it is a Human
@MannyHaarp
@MannyHaarp 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a unique build on this commander what wasn't similar to Karador. Thanks so much!
@crovax1375
@crovax1375 4 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite new self-mill cards is Mindwrack Harpy. But it's great to see new deck techs again!
@nickatwork
@nickatwork 4 жыл бұрын
I love this 0/0 tribal idea. Can't wait to try and brew a budget build.
@kazuallykunfuzed
@kazuallykunfuzed 4 жыл бұрын
Apex of Death as Commander, but also with Orphanguard as Companion? I wanna make a Pet Cemetery deck.
@kittymcjesus149
@kittymcjesus149 4 жыл бұрын
6:57 cant mutate Humans
@sakurawillows8364
@sakurawillows8364 4 жыл бұрын
Running other mutates is amazing in this, since the mutate triggers they have will still activate, making it fun
@DrukenReaps
@DrukenReaps 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you updated your video!
@purplebluedino
@purplebluedino 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, this is awesome. I think this is a really unique take on the commander I really want to try it
@Cyberium
@Cyberium 4 жыл бұрын
Love that Sengir opening.
@Lastjustice
@Lastjustice 4 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely looking to build a Mutate commander. I'm not sure if it will be Nethroi-Apex of Death, Brokkos- Apex of Forever,or Otrimi-The Ever playful but this video served as a reminder I needed to snag a Thrun regardless of which I pick.
@skirk248
@skirk248 4 жыл бұрын
Good day sir. A wonderful deck tech as always
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@classicsidepart1477
@classicsidepart1477 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea and definitely something to try out in the future!!!!! I'd include Brawn,to enable trample in general....
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Good suggestion!
@matthewkossman4589
@matthewkossman4589 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the deck tech, I like how thorough you were with covering different issues the deck could have; not a fan of Vedalken Orrery though?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
It's a good card, it was my attempt at humor.
@michaelatkinson88
@michaelatkinson88 4 жыл бұрын
Love the deck, interesting path to take! Only thing I have for you is that Bassara Tower Archer is a human and can not be mutated onto
@connorv3334
@connorv3334 4 жыл бұрын
Just came across a Nethroi, built a deck around it, and for some reason never thought of 0 power creatures. Time to do some upgrades!
@darkrexkigntstone8773
@darkrexkigntstone8773 4 жыл бұрын
Cool deck tech. I have a Kogla, Titan Ape deck in the works. Have a lovely day. Cheers!
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Fantabulous, be sure to share the deck list here when you're ready.
@MTGSavage
@MTGSavage 4 жыл бұрын
Dark Rex Kignt Stone Definitely interested in a deck list. I have a few ideas with him as well.
@0oghi
@0oghi 4 жыл бұрын
This looks fun and new =)
@TheDARKNESS8030
@TheDARKNESS8030 4 жыл бұрын
Run mogis's marauder. Will give x number of creatures haste and intimidate based on your devotion to black. Just in case you couldnt get in the flash. He only counts for 2 power.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Nice option here
@DavyMcWavy
@DavyMcWavy 4 жыл бұрын
I have both copies and I kind of want to get a clear sleeve and put them back to back and when I’m going off, flip Nethroi to Biollante for extra spice.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
That would be pretty cool
@Casey-cy6ph
@Casey-cy6ph 4 жыл бұрын
With the self mil, you could also add walking ballista and the unhollowed for a combo kill
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
True enough, albiet a bit passe.
@jakesword7669
@jakesword7669 4 жыл бұрын
just an update on the rules. If the target should die that you are mutating onto they both die. Rosewater misspoke about it and released an update.Just a heads up.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
He did? Do you have a link?
@MBimklo
@MBimklo 4 жыл бұрын
Theres a coloroess wall that taps to give your creatures haste combine it with a surrak the hunt caller and give all your creatures haste to win the turn u mutated. I know its a bit tricky but in a good self mill deck getting all your resources in the recycle bin is fairly easy.
@jalchi8367
@jalchi8367 4 жыл бұрын
I wish he was blue aswell, clone tribal would be a cool thing with him, as clones are 0/0
@Ferg-kb8tx
@Ferg-kb8tx 4 жыл бұрын
Abzan creature combo tribal self mill. Nethroi is just an alternate win condition. I like her.
@VampiricGamess
@VampiricGamess 4 жыл бұрын
I know marath is your place holder in your deck list but I would like to let you know you have red cards as well in the deck. Thank you for your take on the deck it looks like a blast to play!! Keep up the amazing work, cheers!
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Decklist updated; many thanks for the observation
@hitbycars
@hitbycars 9 ай бұрын
Dang, I can't use some baller cards in this fit because I have Umori on the side in an all-creatures deck, But Yorvo and Shanna are going IN! I had some "creatures can't be countered" in the deck, but it was hard balancing their value, as they're preventative rather than active or reactive. I ultimately cut them.
@JeElRoJello12
@JeElRoJello12 4 жыл бұрын
Yeva natures herald would work too. I didnt watch the full vid so i dont know if he mentioned it yet
@JeElRoJello12
@JeElRoJello12 4 жыл бұрын
He mentioned it nvm
@antoniomiguelhopkinsii9652
@antoniomiguelhopkinsii9652 4 жыл бұрын
oh this deck slapps
@Facter-di3cm
@Facter-di3cm 4 жыл бұрын
Good video though cool idea enjoyed it
@copperfield42
@copperfield42 4 жыл бұрын
8:50 there is also Crashing Drawbridge, which go with the 0 power theme
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
True, and I considered it but chose to stick with the Flash theme to not lose focus. Nice suggestion 👌
@Darchias
@Darchias 4 жыл бұрын
0 power theme is excellent, but it sadly falls somewhat because it needs to tap in order to use it's effect so it's not a great target for the trigger. It's really strong in the deck when not being reanimated by Nethroi though.
@jodypschaeffer
@jodypschaeffer 4 жыл бұрын
Nethroi may not be interesting enough to build a deck around, but Biollante certainly is. Cheers!
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there.
@earvinmanansala5213
@earvinmanansala5213 4 жыл бұрын
I made a 0/0 tribal with Zaxara. Lots of hydras are 0/0’s and X spells so I make 0/0 hydra token that dies immediately. Perfect for aristocrat cards.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like fun. I like that you can play counter spells with x in the cost and get a creature in addition to countering a spell.
@cush831
@cush831 4 жыл бұрын
Late to the party, I just built a Nethroi 0/0. I run a few different pieces, namely - Shalai, Elixer of immortality, and, leyline of sanctity. At least in my play group (10+) bojuka bogs and angels of eff ur yard are rampant. Just a thought. Good tech either way, cheers!
@dariopadovano5299
@dariopadovano5299 4 жыл бұрын
I'm playing it mutate and aristocrats, it's funny and really combo
@dangerfield6855
@dangerfield6855 3 жыл бұрын
So */* counts in the graveyard? Example: ulvenwald hydra, */* p/t= to the lands you control.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@dangerfield6855
@dangerfield6855 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocards alright well at least 0/0s are still gross enough.
@copperfield42
@copperfield42 4 жыл бұрын
8:28 why mutate it under the troll, when you can do it over it and have it as 5/5 with all that stuff
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Simply showing how the Mutate cards were visually designed to look good with a creature on top - obviously you can choose which one you like.
@crabranhan
@crabranhan 4 жыл бұрын
How does mutate work with commander tax
@largerock
@largerock 4 жыл бұрын
I like the way he says "flash"
@pappendeckel2.096
@pappendeckel2.096 4 жыл бұрын
Rewatch the part but replace „flash“ with „flesh“
@geoffwilliams6072
@geoffwilliams6072 3 жыл бұрын
Does star/star or ×/× work the same way with this as 0/0
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 3 жыл бұрын
No, a star/star creature always checks to see what the power/toughness should be. For example: a creature in the graveyard that has star/star where star = the number of creatures you control will have that value while in the graveyard (or anywhere else like your library)
@MultiDAXDAX
@MultiDAXDAX 4 жыл бұрын
Really great deck, dude!! I'll build it nand give it a try, the 0/0 tribal seems the most fun with Nethroi :D have you got the decklist somewhere?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Not yet but I will work on that this weekend.
@MultiDAXDAX
@MultiDAXDAX 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocards Thanks!!
@MultiDAXDAX
@MultiDAXDAX 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocards Thanks for the decklist! ;) It seems you have another creature set as your commander, I don't know why *o*
@Asmith218
@Asmith218 4 жыл бұрын
concordant crossroads, good old global haste enchantment.
@bamfbabybamf
@bamfbabybamf 4 жыл бұрын
Which is the better aristocrat trio mardu or abzan?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
In Commander, I have to cast my vote for Abzan.
@geoffsquibb3346
@geoffsquibb3346 4 жыл бұрын
Underrealm Lich, for milling out? And maybe Fleecemane Lion for something to mutate him onto? Hexproof/Indestructible giving a nice little extra protection (Boardwipes? Hahahanope.) Alternative direction I was thinking of for this was Walls. Mill through til you've got a load of walls in GY, plus Doran or Belligerent Brontodon, some kind of recursion to pull back a Rolling Stones or similar, swing out with a horde of angry brickwork! Seems janky, I know. But that's what my decks always seem to be 🤣
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting, but how would you win with a bunch of walls?
@geoffsquibb3346
@geoffsquibb3346 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocards Rolling Stones and other wall enablers? Walking Wall, Wall of One Thousand Cuts and Mobile Fort can all drop defender, Animate Wall and Warmonger's Chariot each do it for one creature, and Wakestone Gargoyle lifts it off all creatures. W1 for a 1-turn High Alert
@fuzzyhell
@fuzzyhell 4 жыл бұрын
Could you put the deck list in the description?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Just added: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nethroi-00-tribal-1/?cb=1586324762
@middknight5202
@middknight5202 4 жыл бұрын
love the video! But at 4:40 i must insist on changing that view of my dude the 3 Mana GIANT Yorvo! He is INSANE! With the amount of Proliferate running around, the massive influx of +1, +1 counters matters in mono green, the fact that his ability triggers on creatures, and TOKENS IN GREEN, and the trample inablers, it's not too hard to one shot the table in a very short order! I know in more competive environments he isn't exactly an allstar like Nissa, but his power level shouldn't be written off. Green in general has just gotten really powerful cards as of late. I don't even like green.
@middknight5202
@middknight5202 4 жыл бұрын
I personally have a Yorvo deck and I almost get nervous playing with it because of the sheer card advantage it generates, and also generating hate. A lot of those green cards you mentioned, Yeva, S.Summoning and Vivien are all in there and give the deck a massive push. It's almost like playing blue it's so gross.. xD
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
I believe he's not used more often as he doesn't inherently have Trample; he's easily chump-blocked with tokens.
@Insurvx
@Insurvx 4 жыл бұрын
So you’ve broken 2 IKO commanders so far, give is more deck techs!
@Gruger42069
@Gruger42069 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you for making this deck tech but is the inclusion of 2k dollar cards necessary in tappedout
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 3 жыл бұрын
Like most Commander decks: use what you have
@mokutonwow5693
@mokutonwow5693 3 жыл бұрын
how do you deal with graveyard hate ?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 3 жыл бұрын
Instant speed animate dead cards like necromancy or regrowth effects. You need to be able to respond to cards like rest in peace while they are on the stack.
@joshuaperrine2019
@joshuaperrine2019 4 жыл бұрын
BiollantE. You forgot the last syllable.
@andrewpeli9019
@andrewpeli9019 4 жыл бұрын
Really... you're in golgari colors playing a graveyard deck and you aren't going to play dredge? Life from the loam says "hi"
@paleconfidant380
@paleconfidant380 4 жыл бұрын
Golgari grave troll slaps for dumping stuff into the yard.
@alexclason
@alexclason 4 жыл бұрын
I don't believe you can mutate from the command zone, also deadbridge chant maybe good in this.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
You certainly can - it's an alternate casting cost.
@alexclason
@alexclason 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocards nice!
@hammsuke8290
@hammsuke8290 4 жыл бұрын
*De ja vu* I've been here before right?
@scottyboy0321
@scottyboy0321 4 жыл бұрын
Can't use Shana or G-H Monk for mutate ability. Can't use humans for Mutate.
@Mattismen
@Mattismen 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to the companion video I just watched..?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
I just uploaded a new version with a small correction.
@mberryman7720
@mberryman7720 4 жыл бұрын
Holy cats that's a mean build... I like it :-)
@somebodywh0
@somebodywh0 4 жыл бұрын
Bit late as i just found this. decks looks intereting. however a card like Dungrove Elder with a CDA (characteristic defining ability) has the * replaced by whatever the ability refers to in every zone, so with 5 forests out itll always be a 5/5 whereever it is regardless if it is in your hand, deck or graveyard (altho it remains a pretty good mutate target). simular problem with primalcrux. second, the stag beetle will only look at whats already on the board for its counters and will ignore everything entering the field together with it so it'll end up being a lot smaller
@jwdalton
@jwdalton 4 жыл бұрын
This might be the only mutate card that I build around. I am a fan cheating creatures with ETB effects into play and Mutate doesn't play well with that strategy.
@DanielRodriguez-ov1ql
@DanielRodriguez-ov1ql 4 жыл бұрын
This is genius
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to be of service.
@DanielRodriguez-ov1ql
@DanielRodriguez-ov1ql 4 жыл бұрын
Aristocards do we know if we can mutate at flash speed?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanielRodriguez-ov1ql No, it requires you to cast it, and thus must obey all casting restrictions. It's not an ability like Cycling or Bloodrush that can happen at instant speed.
@Darchias
@Darchias 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocards However, it IS still a Creature spell to mutate, unlike Bestow which makes it a noncreature Aura spell. So any of the Creature flash things work on it. You, of course, already covered this angle, but I feel it's necessary to explain how this differs from Bestow.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
@@Darchias Fantabulous context.
@kleptobinx
@kleptobinx 4 жыл бұрын
You featured a human with hexproof but you cant mutate onto a human
@moxopal675
@moxopal675 4 жыл бұрын
Am I only one who is going to make this a birthing pod deck?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
I doubt you would be. Greater Good also seems pretty legitimate here.
@ichias16
@ichias16 4 жыл бұрын
6:55 please note that you can't mutate human creatures
@meatrace
@meatrace 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the mutate costs on these cards is so high that they wanted it to get around commander tax...but it doesn't, so your first Mutation had better work cuz you're not likely to cast this guy a second time.
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, which is why we want to make him not counterable.
@michealhook6140
@michealhook6140 4 жыл бұрын
Or play him as a hidden commander, dump him into the grave as well and use cards that recur to hand or cards that select which cards to dump in grave while adding him/her to hand. Nobody will ever know lol
@daxterpacking2415
@daxterpacking2415 4 жыл бұрын
just watched the video and loved the deck, wanted to build it, but the list is actually a marath deckteck :/ did I just get trolled?
@Aristocards
@Aristocards 4 жыл бұрын
No, the card doesn't exist in Tapped Out's database yet, so Marath is a placeholder until then.
@daxterpacking2415
@daxterpacking2415 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aristocards don't u have a list on another place? wanted to try it out
@silvius8103
@silvius8103 4 жыл бұрын
I am still trying to understand why the legendary Otter is already ban! What do think about the banning of this card lutri, the Spellchaser.
@copperfield42
@copperfield42 4 жыл бұрын
is ban because it can be the companion in any Izzet+ deck for free and not including it would in fact make your deck worse compared to including it
@silvius8103
@silvius8103 4 жыл бұрын
@@copperfield42 I can barely see a companion(one time use from outside the game) that can only copy a spell you cast, and cost 3 mana as gamebreaker! If they had so much trouble with the companion, they could just say that the companions can´t work on the commander, and allow them only as normal cards in the command zone or in the 99.
@copperfield42
@copperfield42 4 жыл бұрын
@@silvius8103 It can copy your game ending spell, but the problem is not so much that it can do that is that all izzet+ deck would always have it, like a one time use extra partner commander that doesn't need any build around or a spot in the deck, you can say that is worse that Sol Ring because you don't even need to draw it and there's absolutely no reason to not include it... You can get double of whatever, save your combo from counter or get a extra boby in a pinch... Is just pure upside
@Darchias
@Darchias 4 жыл бұрын
It's not that what it does is broken, it's that it's literally free. Just for having Blue and Red in your color identity, you can have a free 101st card in your deck that starts as an eighth card in your hand. It literally doesn't matter how bad or good the card itself is.
@silvius8103
@silvius8103 4 жыл бұрын
@@Darchias That´s why i said for them not allow outside cards to exist in commander, just make that card part of the main deck, as for the outside cards it let be like the wish cards.
@nathanfriedman7367
@nathanfriedman7367 4 жыл бұрын
Frog
@lomalindasmogcheck1
@lomalindasmogcheck1 4 жыл бұрын
0/0 most powerful stat
@andrewpeli9019
@andrewpeli9019 4 жыл бұрын
You have way too many "defense/utility" spells slotted in. Once you get lands, ramp, card draw, ways to fill your graveyard, and creatures that you want to recur put into the deck, you have no room for those defensive spells. You should instead run more ways to self mill such as dredge cards and mesmeric orb. I don't know why you're running a bunch of bad hexproof creatures rather than running good creatures and using a white tutor spell to fetch swiftfoot boots. With the colors you're in, you have the best ramp, some of the best card draw, the best tutors, the three best combat colors in the game and the best defensive spells/abilities. But instead of using those you have a bunch of over-costed garbage slotted in...
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