Hope everyone is enjoying the video and has a great start to their weekend! Here are some responses about frequently asked cards for this one. Tabernacle of Pendrell Vale - It isn't on the list because it doesn't have cumulative upkeep, it isn't an increasing amount of mana, it is always the same. Braid of Fire - Definitely an interesting one since it got powered up following the elimination of mana burn, and while this thing is a powerhouse in EDH and on kitchen tables because of that, it is too slow for constructed formats. Herlad of Leshrac - Another card that's nice in EDH, but too slow for GPs and PTs.

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Cumulative Upkeep is my favourite mechanic. The cards behind it are so obscenely powerful, and all it takes is one Solemnity, Eon Hub or Fatespinner to undo all the downsides.

I really expected Braid of Fire to be on this list...it's really the only "cumulative upkeep" with no downside.

Mystic Remora is also one of the, if not the, best blue cards in EDH.

One important fact about Glacial Chasm: It prevents not just your opponent from damaging you, but also yourself.

NIzzahon, they aren't time counters, as you said when discussing Juju Bubble, but age counters (as we see on the first card on the list). I believe age counters are used exclusively for this.

For me there is nothing more glorious than a card with a terrible mechanic being top tier in vintage, its just beautiful

With the recent " your opponent can't gain life" cards printed, I could see wall of shards returning.

I could see Wall of Shards working well in an Arcades EDH deck. Not only is it a cheap 8/8 flying, but many Arcades decks run a lot of flicker effects, to flicker walls to draw extra cards with Arcades, so that's an easy way to reset the time counters. Personally, I passed it up for my own Arcades deck, but it's definitely in the top 10 cards I'm considering putting in.

I have a deck built entirely around Eon hub and glacial chasm. Eon Hub says players skip their upkeep step so it works really well with all of the cumulative upkeep cards in the deck. Worked really well for a long time until we switch to commander.

Muldrotha is amazing with this mechanic. I like having the choice to just recast any of these after using then for a few turns. Especially mind harness.

Jotun Grunt get in my bat deck! Desecrated Tomb (3, Artifact, Whenever one or more creatures cards leave your graveyard, create a 1/1 black Bat creature token with flying.)

Uncompetitive deck idea: White Black: Wall of Shards plus Tainted Remedy equals cumulative enemy damaging.

I played Jotun Grunt in standard, I ran white/red soldiers it was a heck of a 2-drop in that format.

I played an aggro blue deck in Vintage after Darksteel (because of Vial) that ran Gilded Drake, Erayo, etc. because you could flip Erayo turn 1 with Moxen. Sticking a Mystic Remora against Vintage decks turn 1 means you don't lose when your deck is filled with Forces and such. Card is a house.

Yes! Glacial Chasm! Got one. Never managed to make it work. 😁

I would do some very very questionable things for 1 copy of tabernacle

Cumulative upkeep of 1 life is interesting. As downsides go thats very minor at first, your opponent/s may even want it to stay alive. Even cumulative upkeep of 1 mana on a card that only costs 1 or 2 mana that need only hang around for a turn or two might not be expensive mana wise.

One danger of reduce damage cards is that it doesnt prevent loss of life, something that black will only get more and more of as time goes on.

Wall of Shards is awesome in Arcades the strategist decks, 1w for a 8/8 and it draws you a card

My favorite cumulative upkeep card is varchilds war riders. I know there will be a way to break it someday :P

I still run Infernal Darkness in most of my mono black commander decks. Legit one of my fav cards of all time.

I'm just watching this for EDH uses. Woot woot

I love every top 10s with Ice Age, Alliance and Mirage cards in it

Love the list keep up the great job:)!!

I was somehow expecting Stasis to be there, but it isn't actually a cumulative upkeep, it just feels like it because you can't use your previously tapped islands.

Excellent work 👍👍👍

Has Nizzahon done a top 10 gods. I would love to see that one

Black used to get some stupidly powerful color hosers. Another evil one was Perish, which pretty much read "B2: Target Green player loses the game." As though Green didn't have enough problems back then.

You just showed me all these dirty cards for my Muldrotha

What a great list!

I expected Cover of Winter to be in this list. Edit: I guess it's more of an EDH card though.

Phyrexian Unlife and glacial chasm makes you virtually indestructible.

I run Mystic Remora in my Simic EDH deck and lasted seven turns.

In Urza's saga they printed a card with the same effect of Infernal darkness named Contamination that only required to sacrifice a creature at the beginning of the upkeep. If I control an Eon hub, which allows me to skip my upkeep, do I have to sacrifice my permanent with cumulative upkeep? Believe it or not Juju bubble is part of the Legacy weapon which was planed to be used to defeat Yawgmoth

Cumulative Upkeep just goes to show something I saw in the Worst Mechanics video; If you give a card powerful enough effects or cost them right, it doesn't matter if it has a poorly done mechanic. The problem was so many of those mechanics were creature mechanics, where the creatures had nothing to offer besides stats FROM the mechanic. Add Banding to a 2/2 first strike for 2 mana and it would be fine. Add Rampage 2 to a 3/4 to 4 with Vigilance and it would be nice if minor upside. Too many of those mechanics were seen as some huge upside and costed like they were; At least with Cumulative Upkeep they added it to some impactful cards since they already knew it was a downside.

Mox Lotus plus a cumulative upkeep boom

I’m super surprised that Braid of Fire didn’t appear on this list. It’s probably my favorite cumulative upkeep card. And literally the only cumulative upkeep card with no downside

AKA: the list I'm surprised Braid Of Fire wasnt on (the card with cumulative upkeep 1 red mana)

Dystopia + Vilis Broker of Blood + Venser's journal.

Where was braid of fire? So good. Also very good in commander because you ramp twice as fast

I got to your mention of Illusions of Grandeur and that score seemed absurd to me, so I did some digging. Checked a few top 8 lists for extended GPs at that time, and every single one included 1-4 copies of Trix. I know you're not trying to do exhaustive research here, but remember that there's a lot of info from old tournaments still hanging around on WotC's archives. GP Florence and GP Kuala Lumpur both had 4 Trix decks in the top 8. Somebody needs to put that shit in an archive before it gets wiped.

Jotun Grunt is powerful against Dredge. :3

I wonder why some of the really efficient cards arent played more with Solemnity.

I honestly forgot this mechanic existed.

Huh, kinda through “mana chains” would make it to this list

I wonder how the Trix mirror match would've played

If the pattern holds, Mind Harness will see play again in 2027.

My favorite accumulate upkeep is herald of leshrac

So... Energy storm+swiftfoot boots+Opalescence+suncleanser It no longer can gain or has upkeep, meaning your opponents can't cast burn

Hej Nizza. A top 10 permanent destruction spells would be awesome

I ran chronotog with glacial chasm back in the day. Stasis, kismet, force of will..all the annoying stuff. Basically just skip infinite turns and i cant die while u just draw your whole deck. It was instascoop if i got it setup lol.

I've always considered Snowfall to be the worst card with a culminative upkeep

So I have one problem with the list you are excluding command on this 1 as there are a few cards that see a lot of play

Really expected contaminate to be on this list kind of surprised

I use wall of shards in my modern bant walls deck

I understand the grading policy, but mystic remora really is #1 by far for being the best blue draw spell in edh, it can actually be ancestral recall

My favorite cumulative upkeep card is hibernation’s end.

Should do a Top 10 for decks, or deck archetypes

So with cumulative upkeep, do you untap and then pay it’s cost? Or do you pay it before you untap? And if it’s “cumulative upkeep 1” do you pay 1 first then next upkeep you pay 2 and so on?

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I'm really surprised that Braid of Fire didn't get a decent number of tops. I mean, it's almost free mana. That kind of stuff should get out of hand after a few turns. Odd, that no deck has been able to utalize it yet.

Before I'm watching the video I'd guess Infernal Darkness and Psychic Vortex are on the list.

Love the channel! It's pronounced Yo-tun :)

Braid of fire is amazing now that mana burn is gone

Not really related to the video, but I just theory crafted this card: 3B Enchantment Cumulative upkeep - pay 2 life, draw a card 1B: remove an age counter from ~

I was really expecting smokestack somewhere on this list, only to look it up and realize while it is the same effect it isn't keyworded.

I would be interested in top 10 cantrips

How do you remove time counters?? I thought you couldn't

I know the logic behind positions but Illusions of Grandeur should be 1st without a doubt. One of the most dominant deck in the history of MTG, a deck that made Wizards ban 4 cards (Necro, Demonic, Ritual and Vault) to stop its dominance...The top 4 are all sideboard cards (except Chasm).

So the community never found a way to abuse Thought Lash? A shame, it was always my favorite of the cumulative upkeep cards. I went 2-2-1 in a local tournament with a Lash deck, it was 400 cards or so. Seems with all the improved "tutor" cards out there, it could be way easier to do now.

No Braid of Fire? Funky.

Man, you forgot Braid of Fire. In a mono red burn deck or if you pair it with Elephant Grass then you'll never end up paying the cumulative upkeep cost of Elephant Grass because the red mana you get from it will pay the Grass cost! I'm gonna run it in my Lord Windgrace commander deck pairing it with Grass and Darkest Hour. Basically it ensures that your opponents will not be able to attack you for the rest of the game short of having some sort of removal spells

Uh oh, Banding is coming...

So coming back to this vid after MH2 Spoiler season; now that Enchantress has gotten some support do you think Elephant Grass will put up some more points?

Feed the fish!

No Fiery Braid? I guess it's more of a commander card than legacy

I feel like there's a Red card that has a cumulative upkeep that adds 1 red mana to your mana pool. I don't remember the card name though

Whoooo

If this is MTG Top 10 Worst Mechanics in a 10 part series, then the video should be called "MTG Top 10 Worst Mechanics: #10 Cumulative Upkeep"

I'm so excited about worst mechanics

Mana Chains kicks ass

9:36 number 8..... 3 you mean right?

Ummm... Herald of Leshrac definitely deserves a spot on this list!!!

How was Braids and Herald not on the list?..

WHAT IS YOUR OUTRO SONG?

what about braid of fire?

As a cumulative upkeep, I have to request this on every video. Top 10 vintage cards (obviously excluding power 9)?

Does anyone knows why juju bubble is so freaking horrible? What was the reasoning?

Man, I was sure Braid of Fire was gonna be #1.

Eon Hub ftw!

braid of fire?

I like cumulative upkeep actually as a mechanic

This list plus soleminity, your welcome.

No love for Braid of Fire? For 2 mana, you get crazy ramp. At the time, it was bad because of mana burn, but now that that doesn't exist, its only downside is that it costs 2 to cast. With enough instants or flash creatures, the fact that it's during your upkeep shouldn't matter too much.

Grunts only downside is it’s white. It would be in a lot of edh decks if it was black

Have you already made top 10 gods

Mystic Remora is obnoxious in EDH :)

How about top 10 token generator like seller of birds.