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I Slice Up Standard with 15 Rares and a Sword | Budget Magic: the Gathering | MTG Arena

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MTGGoldfish

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Is getting aggro with Sword of Forge and Frontier and cheap artifact creatures they way to crush Standard on a 15-rare budget? Let's find out!
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@goodjon6220
@goodjon6220 Жыл бұрын
I really wish you would play one match of the non budget version at the end of these videos or even a full video of the non budget. So we could see how it performs if you want to make it and slowly upgrade it.
@l4unchp4dgaming38
@l4unchp4dgaming38 Жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT idea. I second this idea!
@benjyskutch-freedman6839
@benjyskutch-freedman6839 Жыл бұрын
​@@l4unchp4dgaming38same!
@lava665
@lava665 Жыл бұрын
Bump
@pedrof6767
@pedrof6767 Жыл бұрын
The non budget is better what you on? lol Also once you go too much off the budget it becomes pointless to make this deck.
@adambryant6854
@adambryant6854 Жыл бұрын
I have been saying for 2 years
@r4g1ngph03n1x
@r4g1ngph03n1x Жыл бұрын
39:55 Yes we did. You just clicked the 1/1 too fast to see that Anex Sentey could have exiled the Forge as well. "...target ARTIFACT or creature..."
@notsm
@notsm Жыл бұрын
Didn't have to scroll far to find this comment.
@rocklee490
@rocklee490 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm, need a way to deal with Urabrasks forge. *Glares at Annex Sentry until it bursts into flames*
@No1ofConsequence
@No1ofConsequence Жыл бұрын
Right!?
@DragonAttack515
@DragonAttack515 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too
@DragonAttack515
@DragonAttack515 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too
@DragonAttack515
@DragonAttack515 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too
@sevenguy7777777
@sevenguy7777777 Жыл бұрын
That was maddening
@NexGenRogue
@NexGenRogue Жыл бұрын
Hey, Seth I've been away from Magic for the last few years, college and pandemic was rough, but it's your videos that I still come back to watch every now and then. Much love to you and the Goldfish Crew
@moonlight2870
@moonlight2870 Жыл бұрын
I think 23 lands is a bit much for such a low curve
@oscarcloutierpotter415
@oscarcloutierpotter415 Жыл бұрын
yeah it's definitely too many, I would go down to 21, maybe 20 if you're feeling greedy
@limozinis7854
@limozinis7854 Жыл бұрын
@@oscarcloutierpotter415 I run 20 thinking it's greedy and still flood sometimes
@thesilencelies
@thesilencelies Жыл бұрын
35:59 while you're monologuing about your bad beats you have the win in hand. Annex sentry can exile raffine (you have the mana). The lookout has flying and the required 1 power. They have no cards in hand, and 6 creatures to attack with into your 4 blockers (so you take 6 damage). If you keep the raffine sentry alive and they don't top deck a removal spell you have lethal with the bird.
@uucue
@uucue Жыл бұрын
Annex Sentry is an answer for Urabrask's Forge
@stebobibo
@stebobibo Жыл бұрын
Ossification seems much better than circle of confinement for this deck. Otherwise, I like the list. I made a similar list but more all out aggro with the affinity for artifacts inspired charge.
@jaydenyamada2916
@jaydenyamada2916 Жыл бұрын
On a related note to urabrasks forge, the mono R oil list is pretty funny and paper cheap.
@thesilencelies
@thesilencelies Жыл бұрын
38:02 "how do we beat an urabrask's forge?" Annex sentry says creature or artifact. You even see it highlighted as a possible target there...
@r4g1ngph03n1x
@r4g1ngph03n1x Жыл бұрын
Seems like Sword of Once and Future would be a good sideboard card for this deck. I assume that we aren't playing it just from it being budget.
@benjyskutch-freedman6839
@benjyskutch-freedman6839 Жыл бұрын
There aren't really any instants and sorceries in the deck, are you considering including it just for the protection?
@MistaZiggy
@MistaZiggy Жыл бұрын
Surveil away some of these goddamn lands
@TheCardq
@TheCardq Жыл бұрын
I think that the budget version of this deck that doesn't run the rare utility lands like mishra's or eganjo probably only wants 21 lands. Replacing the two cut plains with either Combat courier's or Iron apprentices would probably be worth while. Or you could even cut more lands and play dune movers, not that dune movers is especially powerful on it's own. Edit: Actually, I just noticed you're not playing the full playset of Frontliners; running the full playset if probably better than my other recomendations.
@BobardeZanzibar
@BobardeZanzibar Жыл бұрын
I love Skrelv. It's such an excellent support creature.
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven Жыл бұрын
It’s like half of a mom
@NStripleseven
@NStripleseven Жыл бұрын
wait no that sounds weird
@Molluskcentral
@Molluskcentral Жыл бұрын
Love the Arena budget. Great point that matters as well.
@santiagocalvo
@santiagocalvo Жыл бұрын
I usually don't like the budget deck videos but this one was great!! Keep it up seth! Great content as always!
@mcintyre0591
@mcintyre0591 Жыл бұрын
Unmentioned bonus to all artifact creatures - go for the throat is the preferred removal in black right now Edit: he mentions this halfway through the video 😂
@pablodiaz2278
@pablodiaz2278 Жыл бұрын
Cool idea, maybe too many lands. I would try this deck putting the other sword on side against blue/black and decking a bit more of Instant/sorcery interaction. In non-budget brew Surge surely can be sided too I guess
@OGNoNameNobody
@OGNoNameNobody Жыл бұрын
I think some of the Pauper Fetches would help the flood problem. Also, aggro artifacts w/o *High-speed Hoverbike* ?
@8linkspizza605
@8linkspizza605 Жыл бұрын
Seth for against the odds you should play a 5C mana base but mono black with the help of omnath locus of all
@suNn.K.O
@suNn.K.O Жыл бұрын
I've swapped out Lion Sash for the Hotshot Mechanics in your non-budget version since there's no vehicles. Seems like a fun list otherwise.
@dinnerpartyempire
@dinnerpartyempire Жыл бұрын
just being an artifact 2/1 for one mana is pretty good. But maybe lion sash can be too, good idea
@suNn.K.O
@suNn.K.O Жыл бұрын
@@dinnerpartyempire You're not wrong there. Might end up compromising and run 2 of each.
@junshanluo14
@junshanluo14 Жыл бұрын
seth missplayed in 38 37, annax sentry can hit artifact too so its acutally perfect hand for forge. i mean even if opp have removal its taken down a turn.
@adaml.3546
@adaml.3546 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a non budget version of this deck please. I would really love to see how it does when you amp up the power
@noahhager1187
@noahhager1187 Жыл бұрын
I actually have a version of an invasion of alara deck that I think may be tier and it looked a lot like the opponent in game 2 was playing it. Makes me kinda sad that they're not.
@sloth9669
@sloth9669 Жыл бұрын
8:56. The bugs bunny was fantastic
@jakefrompc6287
@jakefrompc6287 Жыл бұрын
To improve your control matchups, use combat thresher over circuit mender. Draws on etb instead of death and double strike with Michikos and skrev are game winning. In addition, plated onslaught is a control blowout potentially but it’s inconsistent
@B-Randall
@B-Randall Жыл бұрын
SaffronOlive has really nailed his intro, and I love it. It’s such a goofy intro lol
@beelor5777
@beelor5777 Жыл бұрын
Been playing this deck without the sword for a while now. Reliquary roadside or whatever is nice too. The ability to draw 1-2 is really clutch
@rodrigodepaula4198
@rodrigodepaula4198 Жыл бұрын
So, why circle instead of Ossification? We have better and cheap (on arena at least) white removal in standard right now.
@Gebus1998
@Gebus1998 Жыл бұрын
NOOOOOOO I just started playing a reign of truth artifact aggro deck and now everyone will play this 😫
@Maddecent30
@Maddecent30 Жыл бұрын
I assure you, no one is going to play this but you.
@thatoneguy7781
@thatoneguy7781 Жыл бұрын
I would recommend playing the simic sword since mill + a 2/2 is pretty good
@Gebus1998
@Gebus1998 Жыл бұрын
@Maddecent30 being that mono white aggro was the top deck for standard for like a year I'd guess people will play some version of this deck
@skykur
@skykur Жыл бұрын
@@thatoneguy7781this is a standard deck, friend. It’s not 2011 anymore (sadly 😢)
@freehoppernz9058
@freehoppernz9058 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can get some new ideas
@LadyMapi
@LadyMapi Жыл бұрын
Would Spectrum Sentinel be worth running in the 75? A 1/2 for 1 that has protection from gold and gives you 1 life whenever you opponent plays a non-basic seems pretty reasonable to me...
@DonovanPresents
@DonovanPresents Жыл бұрын
16:53 Why didn't you confine the Ojutai instead of equipping the sword? 38:18 Annex Sentry can take out that forge since it can target Artifacts as well
@tommygol15br
@tommygol15br Жыл бұрын
Mana value 3 or less
@Nyundaa
@Nyundaa Жыл бұрын
@@tommygol15br Urabrask's Forge costs 3 mana
@tommygol15br
@tommygol15br Жыл бұрын
​@@Nyundaa16:53
@danielquigley2695
@danielquigley2695 Жыл бұрын
Roadside Reliquary is budget. I think 2 or 3 copies could fit.
@dinnerpartyempire
@dinnerpartyempire Жыл бұрын
good idea
@47Mortuus
@47Mortuus Жыл бұрын
38:15 Annex the FORGE! RTFC!
@MrGrovak
@MrGrovak Жыл бұрын
Just tried this a bit in Bo1 standard and am currently 6-1. It does the job very well
@AeroSW
@AeroSW Жыл бұрын
The curve in this deck is low enough to run 20 lands rather than 23. I feel 23 is a little too high for this curve. You have a ton of one drops, and if you are truly worry about not seeing lands, then 22 would be the highest I would choose here.
@towelguy
@towelguy Жыл бұрын
8:57 caught me off ward lol
@zaclock-4228
@zaclock-4228 Жыл бұрын
Oh no! You are spoiling the secret about the Gobakhan-turn-two-Seraph-turn-three curve! I've been crushing Arena Mythic with Jeskai midrange. Seraph is the most underrated card in our current Standard, it actually doesn't die to most removals.
@jaydenyamada2916
@jaydenyamada2916 Жыл бұрын
When I tried the mono green list it felt too slow against aggro and couldn't deal with threats well. Suggestions on stuff to try in it? I don't want the playset of tribute I bought to go to waste
@elogee_yt
@elogee_yt Жыл бұрын
Azusa's Many Journeys nets you 3 life which helps vs aggro, and if you play it on 2, and Tribute on 3, it'll flip on 4 and draw you a card immediately off Tribute. Topiary Stomper is also really helpful (it draws off Tribute, but it's a rare so), it can get you a one-of Swamp out of your deck so you can use Tear Asunder with Kicker to deal with threats that green has an otherwise-difficult time with. They both also ramp you and let you cast bombs like Nissa easier.
@jamiebenzeleski2889
@jamiebenzeleski2889 Жыл бұрын
Please do a updated version of the commander deck with Purphoros, Bronze-Blooded.
@unnamed800
@unnamed800 Жыл бұрын
0:15 i just heard it as saffron owwive hahahahah
@marsrocks247
@marsrocks247 Жыл бұрын
Seth had that 1 point of damage but he played sentry after he played truth to nab that blocker :O
@ryandensler
@ryandensler Жыл бұрын
Love the content, your quick scoops kill me though
@elijahmyers4331
@elijahmyers4331 Жыл бұрын
Why not play crawling chorus? An artifact creature that makes an artifact creature when it dies
@sirrodney61
@sirrodney61 Жыл бұрын
Crawling chorus isn't an artifact, just the mite.
@spice_krispies
@spice_krispies Жыл бұрын
Would have gone to 22 lands, mainboarding a Mishra's Foundry or 2, ditch the Yotian Frontliner's and add a couple Kayla's Reconstruction.
@chrisb8041
@chrisb8041 Жыл бұрын
Lol the bugs bunny edit is priceless
@Dragiceoriginal
@Dragiceoriginal Жыл бұрын
~35:00 Seth, you still had that game, no? Sentry to exile Raffine, Lookout represents lethal next turn, they had no fliers. They’re empty handed. Seems like a good line?
@yO-xe3ny
@yO-xe3ny Жыл бұрын
It absolutely is true on Arena that if you keep low land hands, you don't draw lands, and if you keep high land hands, you draw nothing but lands. I have played MTG for 20 years and the rate that it happens at on Arena has never happened to me in those 20 years on paper.
@Plexiux
@Plexiux Жыл бұрын
Apparently for Ichor, both ick-or and eye-core pronunciations are correct.
@AkodoNoEyes
@AkodoNoEyes Жыл бұрын
What’s the non budget version? Just Mishra’s Foundry?
@RoughToughTonkasGotTheStuff
@RoughToughTonkasGotTheStuff Жыл бұрын
oo i've been playing something similar to this, excited to see some gameplay
@andidyouknow8208
@andidyouknow8208 Жыл бұрын
Seth when miscount :(. Seth when he realizes he didn’t math right OMG
@skywardgorilla5714
@skywardgorilla5714 Жыл бұрын
Ossification would be perfect in this deck.
@Jupue
@Jupue Жыл бұрын
35:55 couldnt you have exiled raffine with annex, chump the three big creatures and a human and block one human with the annex with raffine, go to 2, untap, swing with the surviving annex? if they dont attack all your lookout survives and swings. i think that was an early scoop unless im missing something *yell*
@JG1075
@JG1075 Жыл бұрын
You're missing that Adeline makes an additional 3/3 attacker. Adeline and Loran also have vigilance. Sentrys dying return the creatures so they can also block.
@lordmeep5803
@lordmeep5803 Жыл бұрын
Honestly without the manlands, this seems like a 21 land deck
@dracish123456789
@dracish123456789 Жыл бұрын
I still would love to see mono mount gruul 8 trilands 1 RG etb tapped rg land, the rest mountains
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo Жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't know if I would suggest building this deck since a majority of decks are just white or black based midrange running as much removal as humanly possible. I haven't had any aggro deck work in standard for the past two weeks.
@lukecraig4984
@lukecraig4984 Жыл бұрын
Damn the annex sentry not getting the urebrasks forge made me sad
@noobtube2799
@noobtube2799 8 ай бұрын
7:47 opponent punted, could have killed the mender as you tried to equip
@williamdixon9508
@williamdixon9508 Жыл бұрын
Seth: jams 23 basics in an aggro deck Also Seth: the arena shuffler is rigged and gives you only lands 🤡🤡🤡
@Sxcheschka
@Sxcheschka Жыл бұрын
I feel he thinks in terms of like MTGO with how the algorithm works with lands there.
@aelinstue9431
@aelinstue9431 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was very confused on the amount of lands in such a low curve deck that’s not trying to wait and save to cast multiple spells a turn.
@Sxcheschka
@Sxcheschka Жыл бұрын
@@aelinstue9431 Also with how paper magic works, having 23 is also a good rounder, but with how mtga does things yeah.
@47Mortuus
@47Mortuus Жыл бұрын
You're not flooding. You put 23 lands in that deck (which curves out at 3) - what did you expect?
@homebrewed
@homebrewed Жыл бұрын
Oh Seth...you slay me
@rickeyboy42
@rickeyboy42 Жыл бұрын
Something about that plains art makes it extra obnoxious when you're flooding out
@madddawgg2
@madddawgg2 Жыл бұрын
Yotani. I love it
@brendancollins4817
@brendancollins4817 Жыл бұрын
How would you feel about a pair of Roadside Reliquary in this deck?
@TheMegaMagikarp
@TheMegaMagikarp Жыл бұрын
This deck would draw 1 card only pretty consistently but I'd think I'd run it over Mishra's Factory ONLY on these budget lists. I like this take.
@andrewgolubiewski3463
@andrewgolubiewski3463 Жыл бұрын
your curve mostly caps out at 3, steel seraph doesn't really count you can definitely cut a land or two
@andrewgolubiewski3463
@andrewgolubiewski3463 Жыл бұрын
worth noting you're also not running card draw to need a lot of mana late game, the sword is the only real card advantage
@cpugwash7085
@cpugwash7085 Жыл бұрын
Run into this twice on ladder already today. ;)
@matiasc003
@matiasc003 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't annex sentry exile the urabrask forge?
@matiasc003
@matiasc003 Жыл бұрын
Isn't ossification better than circle of confinament?
@theopreston8507
@theopreston8507 Жыл бұрын
instant dopamine thank u seth
@suNn.K.O
@suNn.K.O Жыл бұрын
Almost Artisan pog.
@Crazymachin3gun
@Crazymachin3gun Жыл бұрын
Yo I am gonna have to hold this deck
@AngoDecay
@AngoDecay Жыл бұрын
What was that 5 land keep
@xtimes3952
@xtimes3952 Жыл бұрын
is that standard hammer time
@Bloodmuffin6
@Bloodmuffin6 Жыл бұрын
Isn't 23 lands too much with that curve?
@MistaZiggy
@MistaZiggy Жыл бұрын
“Protection from red just beats their deck!” Proceeds to cut almost all of them from the deck
@MistaZiggy
@MistaZiggy Жыл бұрын
You can chump block with the protection from red why would you attack for 3??
@shot040
@shot040 11 ай бұрын
holy fuck. that mono red player def got to mythic with that deck; putting counters on spirit tokens... aaaaaand they left themselves dob.
@user-mx8qf4vq1k
@user-mx8qf4vq1k Жыл бұрын
I use elspeth's command and doublestriking human soldiers...
@HCMORGI
@HCMORGI Жыл бұрын
keeping a 5lander is the same for me. i will draw all lands and 0 spells until im dead
@Modest7787
@Modest7787 Жыл бұрын
SPLASH URZA PRINCE OF KROOG
@Raknarroth
@Raknarroth Жыл бұрын
Keep a 5-lander...I've never drawn more than 3 lands in my starting hand without mulliganing
@jamesrule1338
@jamesrule1338 Жыл бұрын
CAn't wait for Sword of Forge and Frontier to get reprinted, so maybe it well have art that it's terrible.
@bakaakasuna4097
@bakaakasuna4097 Жыл бұрын
Why not boros? Seems like the deck has a lot of cards that don't accomplish what it's trying to do.
@sleepteam
@sleepteam Жыл бұрын
Lmao the bugs bunny
@ther3aper561
@ther3aper561 Жыл бұрын
Seems useless to attack with the 1/1 at 36.37, they trade and get the 1 life back you got to pump the lookout and now you're down 1 artifact for the saga next turn
@kubby2012
@kubby2012 Жыл бұрын
For real, a lot of folks laugh whenever somebody mentions that arena isn't completely random and think you're being paranoid. I've played so much of arena, and even more than that tabletop. Arena is at best psuedo-random or at worst not random in the slightest and just uses a algorithm for your next cards.
@TunnelSnakesrule13
@TunnelSnakesrule13 Жыл бұрын
It just doesn't really do anything against control, which is 95% of BO1
@kaemonbonet4931
@kaemonbonet4931 Жыл бұрын
22 lands is fine for a deck which tops out at 3
@kal54321
@kal54321 Жыл бұрын
"I miss counted".....what else is new?
@vaughnhester889
@vaughnhester889 Жыл бұрын
So while I believe magic's explanation for why. It's known fact the shuffler is rigged. Relevant here there was a study that showed that a quirk of the shuffler was that if you kept less then three lands you would be less likely to draw a land and if you kept more than three lands you would be more likely to draw lands. So yes keeping 5 lands is a very bad idea in an aggro deck.
@kats7930
@kats7930 Жыл бұрын
Too many basic lands... With that many lands, I truly feel at least 1 of them should be a cycler so you flood less. Even one copy of The Fair Basilica as budget common would go a long way. Also, for all intents and purposes, you are playing a Pauper manabase and curve inside standard, which as we all know Pauper land counts rarely exceed 22 lands even on control. The reason standard plays more than 22 lands on aggro is because of eganjo and other utility lands. I think 22 lands is the absolute ceiling for a deck like this. 😅
@LemonpeelEater
@LemonpeelEater Жыл бұрын
I came here to spend rare wildcards and kick ass... And I'm all out of rare wildcards
@LilTuba
@LilTuba Жыл бұрын
I don't think the land theory is out of place, don't we already know that they have things in place to "smooth out" draws? Any time you start meddling with that it can open up a bunch of unintended, or intended, consequences.
@kchortu
@kchortu Жыл бұрын
That deck has such a low curve I think it needs less lands
@user-wt4ic3bw6w
@user-wt4ic3bw6w Жыл бұрын
It's not crazy or delusional. the arena shuffle system is totally rigged.
@marsrocks247
@marsrocks247 Жыл бұрын
If you lose to blue/black control it doesn't matter what other games you won - you lost the only game that mattered. You need to take the confidence that all their removal gave them when they put it in their deck and invalidate it, so the dead cards in their hand do nothing and fill them with fear and anxiety. All that matters is the control player suffers, loses and gives up on the idea of shutting others out of playing and enjoying the game just to win the slowest and most boring game they can. Go, forget this deck exists. Build a deck that specifically shuts down the Sheoldred player so bad they start crying and ripping the keys out of their keyboard. MAKE THEM SUFFER SETH.
@user-mx8qf4vq1k
@user-mx8qf4vq1k Жыл бұрын
22 lands
@jameshowell7178
@jameshowell7178 Жыл бұрын
@21.40 Seth, you have got to stop saying what you're scared of out loud, or else they definitely will have it
@freddiedl
@freddiedl Жыл бұрын
MAKE STANDARD GREAT AGAIN
@DanteTheButchersSister
@DanteTheButchersSister Жыл бұрын
Honestly for Budget Players, just cut all the copies of Gobakhan and add literally anything else. Seth lost almost every single game he drew it and the one game he did win with it was against some janky brew. In a world of Sunfall and Farewell it just doesn't do enough. I think its just a terrible card unless you are playing a non-black combo deck and need some kind of Thoughtseize.
@benjaminchong7750
@benjaminchong7750 Жыл бұрын
its not a tin foil hat thing, I definitely experience the same thing, and vice versa when you have fewer lands, and continue to not see lands.
@mauricioandre3438
@mauricioandre3438 Жыл бұрын
No, its not. It even was studied some years ago. The ELI5 was that keeping 2 or less lands in the opening hand gives you a lower probabiliy to draw lands than expected, and 4 or more gives you a higher probability to draw lands than expected. Something in the Opening Hand and smoothing algorithm not working properly.
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