GG Seth! I should've timed Otawara a little differently as it turns out 😅

Seth: Puts +1/+1 counters on Old Rutstein that would've grown the kami's power to 5 Also Seth: "if somehow we can grow the kami's power more..." 😜

Arena absolutely needs "always yield to" and "remember targets/choices". And that is not even to say that it should probably also have a "record loop" and "execute loop X times" options. I know it's probably a nightmare to code it, specially cus at this point I bet it's become a spaghetti code app, but STILL.

Fun fact with Cauldron, if you exile something like Heir of Falkenrath, you can flip anything with its ability. My favorites with this strat is the saga praetors and etali

Seth: you’re not supposed to scoop in early access Also seth: scoops in early access

Fauna Shaman is a card I'm kicking myself for missing in my Cauldron Combo list, but I think you do really want Rona and Tyvar and that Sleep-Cursed Faerie/Faerie Mastermind/Surge Engine beats might be a better backup plan than the graveyard thing.

Legend!! LegenVD is one of the best.

Likeness Looter seems like it could be good here- helps dig and stock the yard with pieces for cauldron and can be an additional copy of any of them or switch from one to another.

Goro-Goro and Argivian Avenger are two separate cards that can activate abilities to give themselves haste in standard. Agatha herself (or several others) requires two creatures and a fair chunk of mana, but still works too.

In Modern you could use soul cauldron to exile Grist (who is a creature everywhere but on the battlefield) and give all creatures with +1/+1 counters loyalty abilities. Then activate the +1 loyalty ability to get a bunch of loyalty counters (and insect tokens and cards in graveyard), then sac the creatures to get all their loyalty counters onto the Ozolith, then move all those loyalty counters onto one creature so you can use Grist's ultimate.

PSA: Futurist Operative also has an untap ability. It's also 3 mana to untap but it's another possible alternative!

Could it be worth to add tough cookie to be able to turn the cauldron into a creature? So it would be able to untap itself and etc?

The way Seth says “Agatha soul cauldron” makes it sound like the cauldrons named Agatha lmao

Agatha's Cauldron is definitely interesting. It's the best stand-alone Necrotic Ooze-style card we've ever seen, as it isn't embarrassingly bad played fairly (sorta like half an Unlicensed Hearse that grows your team instead of itself) at the expense of speed compared to the Ooze. Like, witht the right cards in your graveyard, you can kill your opponent with an Ooze before they even get a chance to respond, and that's never going to happen with the cauldron.

I'd love to see a goose food deck. I mean these types of decks are fine, but once you see the combo once, you've seen It a million times. And I've been trying out night of sweets revenge, and it seems great.

Love this new episode of Much Abrew Against the Odds of Meme or Dream in Standard!! :) :P :D

If only regular arena players were kind enough to scoop when you go infinite. I feel like some of these games might time out before you got the kill if you had to click through everything.

The combo seems pretty legit! I bet it can be fine tuned a little further, great deck Seth!

Love this guys energy/attitude!

I was waiting for someone to do this

“We aren’t supposed to scoop during this event” Literally next game scoops*

Hilarious. Thanks, Seth!

Seth loves Goyf so much, he even puts it in cauldron combo

Amazing deck

Commenters: do you think this is pioneer viable?

My favorite bit of jank I just discovered is using Tough Cookie to turn the Cauldron into a creature, then if you get a +1/+1 counter on it, you can infinitely untap it

Lmao playing legenvd in the first game nice

Add power plant worker with a monster role token. Pump PPW and swing for GG Also for another (long routed way) for mana... add blighted burgeoning, grafted growth, and portent tracker for the utopia sprawl way. Exile sleep-cursed to cauldron giving tracker the untap ability

Nice!

I had a try of this deck, I liked it quite a lot with 4x Saiba Cryptomancer

I thought of a really cool "against the odds" style deck using Agatha's Soul Cauldron. you use the cauldron to exile from your graveyard a creature with cheap activated ability that make him transform, like concealing curtains, bloodsworn squire, restless bloodseeker or the uncommon creatures that transform into phyrexians from march of the machine. then you can use that activated ability to transform things like the preators, ulvanwald oddity, jerren, runo stormkirk and angelic enforcer. you can also put there training grounds and agatha in case they get rid of the cauldron.

There is also a Patchwork Crawler, and his ability is kinda like cauldron, so maybe this deck can really be good and consistent

I kinda wonder if Reckless Handling would worth making the deck Temur? It finds the cauldron and it can help put creatures into the yard. Or in Sultai use Diabolic Intent?

Do we finally have the sultai graveyard deck of Seth’s dreams? And all it took was an infinite mana combo to facilitate it

I'd say just because this is arena and you can do the combo at instant speed, there's an arguement to waiting until the kami is a 5/5 to combo more quickly, if someone tries to stop you, you can still do slow combo mode.

@seth ive been toying with this sorta deck for a while now dont know which route i like better sultai for sticky fingers or temur for song of totentanz i like temur a little more cause with infinite mana you can swing all the rats

I cracked cauldron on pre-release. Exciting! Wonder if it'll be used in pioneer mono green devotion

Hey Seth, Have you ever tried to make Form of the Dragon + Sandwurm Convergence work? (Need a backup plan for burn)

Why are we not having sleep cursed as the base of the combo? Like it has ward 2 and has more power and toughness. If you play it turn 1 it loses a stun. Turn 2 you play cauldron. And on turn 3 you might have lethal?

Such a powerful mana base with creature lands and channel lands!

this was pretty much the first combo i thought of when i saw agathas cauldron tbh.

Feel like running a 2 power haste creature would be cool as something you can play to then give a counter and instantly go off.

Seeing those shenenigans I'm not sure if I should even download the client update ...

My list used Futurist Operative, Furtive Analyst, and Kami of Whispered Hopes to go infinite and dig til I got Phyrexian Vindicator and Stonesplitter Bolt to kill. But my list is unoptimized because of being poor (out of rare wildcards). I probably should find some kind of alternate wincon incase there is “you have hexproof” in standard.

FLING EM! Like others have said, with all those creatures that get really big due to the graveyard, I run "Voldaren Thrillseeker" and spare myself all that mana generation. 1 mana can fling your big creatures!

If you find a way to add kiora's follower and/or vizier of tumbling sands for historic, its nuts

You could exile the Kami with the cauldron and put a counter on the Lrgouph or how is he called to make 7 mana pro step

I see some combinations with that card in modern. Not saying the combo's would be good but fun lmao 😅

I feel like this deck could use some adventure creatures for utility and removal. You know, so you can tutor them.

So basically this is Standard Build-Your-Own Worldgorger Dragon Combo :D

Is there a gingerbrute type creature that can pay 1 for haste?

Maybe you could win faster by making a couple of slots for Tovalar? This deck is sweet!

Did you see CGB's take on this? Seemed pretty fast and consistent.

why not redundancy with the cradle clearcutter instead of deathbloom ritualist

Seth "i wish this made more then 1 mana a loop" Also Seth "lets put this extra counter on this other creature not the one will will have to tap a million times "

I was just thinking about using patchwork crawler for a deck like this

22:30 really confused why he didn't put the counters on kami when it would've made 2 extra man and sped up the combo.

LegenVD vs Seth is literally my two favourite streamers vs each other. Niiiice.

This is a testament to the desperate need for wizards to pay the devs to sort out infinites.

"If somehow we could grow the kami's power more" Like, oh idk, putting more counters on it with soul cauldron instead of putting those counters on something else like you did? Or if you put the counters on something larger like goyf. Slightly slower, but should still work

Haven't watched the whole video yet, but does he realise anything can be a Kami if it's exiled to Cauldron?

did this build was fun. Still prefer agatha transformation

Missing cards: Patchwork crawler for Cauldron replacement Zimone and Dina for more lands Voldaren Thrillseeker for infinite damage Battlefield Butcher for another source of damage Training Grounds to make stuff cheaper

The funny thing with the match against Legend Even if you let Otawara resolve, you would go infinite, since you just +1 the OTHER Kami, and go infinite there re: Growing the Kami, uhh, maybe don't +1 the Rutstein when you coulda +1'd the Kami again so it'd be a 5/5 Also Kami is said with a hard Ka, its not Cammy, its Kah-mii

i just lost to this shit in Bo3..had no idea what was going on

Why is Tyvar not in here?

I don't understand about the untap ability. It cost 1U, how is it you can use any color of mana to pay for this ability

Every time the letter A shows up in a non-English word in a card name from Kamigawa, it's pronounced like the A in "awesome". So kami is pronounced kah-mee. Please, Seth, NEO has been out for over a year

is this video extra dark or is my phone breaking

For sure, with all the pauses, that first opponent didn't understand what was going on until he saw the dragon 😄

No infinite life What a gyp

The audio seems out of sync, Seth frequently comments on something 5-6 seconds after it happens.

Soul Cauldron is a really cool idea but I think it's bad design for it to so effortlessly enable itself, especially when it's graveyard stuff which is basically always problematic (since the whole point of stuff going there is that it's supposed to be bad, a cost, a loss in tempo or opportunity, anything that's not beneficial). Of course it may be the specific combo with the Kami that is the problem, and it may just end up either too slow or too easily disrupted once it's a known entity and more specific removal is kept at hand - of course, what you are doing here is hardly optimized (though the same is true of the other preview players). I still feel this kind of design is what breaks things, and it's a pity when the basic idea of the card is valid.

This deck wouldn't be legal if the set rotation happened when it was supposed to :)

Go elves infinite done😂😂😂😂

Man, deck is a little too good. We’re gonna see a lot of this for a long while.

should've been playing yawgmoth instead of helkite, it mills your opponent

35:31 basically the summary of standard for the last few months and foreseeable future. All because WOTC refuses to rotate out sets.

You no have infinite time

Seth. I don't even need to play this deck to know how vulnerable it is. I'm going to pass, especially after the absolute failure that was the cookies deck.

I swear I've heard Seth pronouce "Kamigawa" correctly and yet it's always "'Cammie' of whispered Hopes" . It's literally the same "Kami" like in the beginning of Kamigawa and still. Someone please tell Seth I can't listen to him calling them "Cammies" anymore

Infinite in every way? Not even remotely. I don't see any infinite life gain, infinite mill, infinite tokens, infinite power, infinite land destruction, infinite bounce, infinite damage prevention, infinite loyalty activations, infinite counters, infinite spell copies,infinite turns, infinite poison, or infinite combat steps. You need to step up your game.

That's not a real voice.