Here are all the decklists mentioned in the video: www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/25-commander-decks-under-25
@peterbarrington66795 ай бұрын
Hi Guys! Can only see 23 of the 25 decks covered on your site! I can see the Malcom + Breeches List is missing but not sure which the other one is! Thanks Tomer for the hard work what a great video!
@clintcarlson4435 ай бұрын
I’m not seeing the Malcom+breeches list?
@tomerabramovici324 ай бұрын
@@peterbarrington6679 Haldan + Pako and Malcolm + Breeches were missing, I added them monday night, should all be there now.
@peterbarrington66794 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Tomer!!!@@tomerabramovici32
@bjarneclaesen18015 ай бұрын
Instantly ordered Three Dog, never before have I clicked a video and spent money this fast, ended up spending 40 euros including 15 euros shipping from cardmarket so your prices are spot on! Your 50 decks for 50 dollars is also one my most used sources for decks.
@financecarter5 ай бұрын
0:36 Hamza, Guardian of Arashin 3:16 Legolas, Master Archer 6:35 The Council of Four 9:17 Teysa, Opulent Oligarch 12:32 Nelly Borca, Impulsive Accuser 16:56 Valduk, Keeper of the Flame 21:19 Etrata, Deadly Fugitive 25:11 Three Dog, Galaxy News DJ 28:04 Zimone and Dina 31:18 Ognis, the Dragon’s Lash 33:52 Winota, Joiner of Forces 36:45 Abdel Adrian, Gorion’s Ward (partnered with) Candlekeep Mage 40:05 Edric, Spymaster of Trest 43:10 Zara, Hedron Grinder 47:02 Armix, Filigree Thrasher (partnered with) Ich-Tekik, Salvage Splicer 50:05 Talrand, Sky Summoner 54:04 Eligeth, Crossroads Augur (partnered with) Esior, Wardwing Familiar 56:12 General Ferrous Rokiric 59:00 Verazol, the Split Current 1:02:24 Light-Paws, Emperor’s Voice 1:05:26 Vadrik, Astral Archmage 1:09:56 Pako, Arcane Retriever (partnered with) Haldan, Avid Arcanist 1:13:39 Malcolm, Keen-Eyed Navigator (partnered with) Breeches, Brazen Plunderer 1:16:29 Gonti, Lord of Luxury
@dragonknite3144 ай бұрын
You are a true hero my friend
@jgrahl3 ай бұрын
Missed 1:18:43 Borborygmos Enraged
@paulszki5 ай бұрын
What a ridiculous video. Seriously. There's so much content about EDH on youtube and a lot of it is really good but THIS video just puts the entire deckbuilding part into a new perspective for me. This video really hammered into me how seriously underwhelming my deckbuilding process is. Whenever I build a deck on moxfield or whatever, the price of the deck always ends up being something north of 300€ (or $500). Sure those prices are always super inflated but the points remains: I'm building mediocre expensive decks. And here tomer comes and casually puts out 25 (!) EDH-decks, that actually function and cost a fraction to build of whatever piles I'm cooking up. I've been playing magic since the very early 2000s and have a deep collection, but apparently that's all I've got going. I'm shattered.
@coreyburton84 ай бұрын
5 budget decks would be impressive- 25 is fantastic!!! Thanks so much
@Drewbe8215 ай бұрын
Very refreshing to see something helpful and REAL during April 1st. Thank you.
@MrGrovak4 ай бұрын
Comments for the algorithm. I'm not going to lie, I generally don't use budget decks very often but overall resources like these are still immensely useful for players across the board especially when trying to introduce new players to the format while not requiring them to spend a whole lot of money. Tomer you always out do yourself, never stop.
@unseeliedream425 ай бұрын
there's tomer there's 25 budget deck MUST LIKE IT
@midnalight64195 ай бұрын
The CRAZY part of this is that they're cardkingdom prices, which are INSANE. The efficiency here is actually off the charts.
@swagmanthethird94703 ай бұрын
Where can you get them cheaper?
@Josh-mk7ok3 ай бұрын
@@swagmanthethird9470tcg. I love card kingdom, especially since they are my LGS but they are definitely more expensive
@Sinistra3595 ай бұрын
Budget decks are much stronger these days with all the reprints we've been getting. Snagged sphinx of the second sun for less than .50 cents! Would've cost me $8-10 before its reprint. Also snagged a bunch of staples for cheap too recently! Great video!
@jesselaplante1040Ай бұрын
I got a Vamp Tutor for like .69 Tix I think, just last night 😂 gotta love reprints. And it's weird too bc the digital cards should, in theory- have their own economy but when cards are reprinted then their digital counterparts get cheaper too. It's bizarre
@arnoldeuss26534 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the video. As a beginner MTG player and a student on a budget, these deck seems super fun and really excited to see if any of them can go up against a 150$ General Ferrous Rokiric deck
@robertcollura72365 ай бұрын
I have been think of building zada for a long time and this video sold me on it. Thanks tomer! Coming in clutch
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
Glad to help out! Be sure to goldfish the deck, it will make your storm turn way faster and easier to pull off once you're familiar with all the cards
@jesselaplante1040Ай бұрын
The last Commander deck I made was one of your 5 Tix Shrine decks YEARS ago. I still use it to this day(I upgraded it) and it's still sweet even with all these new OP cards! Id love to see an updated Sisay Shrine deck Tomer!!! Thanks!
@Theanthill2164 ай бұрын
$25 budget off CK prices is actually goated…..they only sell commons as low as 25 cents sometimes 15 but rarely. Basically paying over double for most but one package from CK vs 20 different ones off tcgplayer, makes it worth a couple extra bucks imo.
@motorboot28224 ай бұрын
You're doing the Lords work, Tomer. All hail the budget deck!
@Dragon_Fyre5 ай бұрын
Before people complain about prices exceeding $25, check whether there is an obvious reason. Often, it is adding an absurd price for basic lands and/or selecting an unusual art for a card like the Secret Lair version which is way overpriced.
@Guukoh4 ай бұрын
This video is great! I wouldn’t have seen it if it weren’t for your tweet, so I am grateful!
@malachai13814 ай бұрын
I got the perfect upgrade for the zimone and dina list: Mosswood Dreadknight. Sac it to zimone, draw/ramp, cast its adventure from the graveyard, then recast it again to keep the value engine going!
@financecarter5 ай бұрын
Wait is this an April fools joke? I’m so confused. This seems like a real set of decks.
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
They are real decks! Just unfortunate timing :P
@Skuntdilly5 ай бұрын
The real April Fools are Wizard's Precon prices!
@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai5 ай бұрын
@@tomerabramovici32If you ever do another one of these, could you (attempt to) give a rough power level ranking to each of them? I know it’s hard to give an accurate one, but maybe you could hit close to the mark? I’m always interested in building these, but I don’t want to build one and then not have anywhere to play it because it’s too weak or too strong for my meta.
@perz343srry4 ай бұрын
Well except Borborgymos... that one is a meme.
@ryancromer21104 ай бұрын
@Skuntdilly I love the magic community but this is becoming the most insane narrative. Almost all pre cons end up being worth more if you buy the singles, by a lot. People will pay 60$ for a video game and won't blink, but won't pay 60$ for a precon
@YaBoyEdGames4 ай бұрын
Never clicked a link faster as a crazy deck builder and there's a ton of decks here that really speak to me, like nelly and etrata, especially with the upcoming support for mercenary cards in OTJ.
@kajillion32385 ай бұрын
These are even more impressive knowing you used a price list that massively overcharges for commons and uncommons.
@exilenl3 ай бұрын
Just brilliant! This will probably be the most valuable bang-for-buck mtg video for me. What a treasure.
@Theemosapiens4 ай бұрын
I always love seeing which of these cheap decks can stack up against higher budgets
@manramen2 ай бұрын
I don't have a huge collection of cards and I have to admit these prices are usually higher in reality now matter how new the video. I think my biggest problem is affording lands. I can get a land station but some budget decks rely heavily on loads of lands so it can be tricky. I personally LOVE LOVE LOVE MTGGoldfish and it's been a huge help to access commander in a more casual setting with friends. :)
@webbc995 ай бұрын
My first budget brew was basically your exact Hamza list but I use Kutzil in the command zone!
@oskardietrich1324 ай бұрын
super cool video Tomer, quite a few decks which i thought i might build. really like Etrate, Zimone and Dina and Esior + Eligeth. but no way i share this video before i tried building atleast one of the decks.
@Kararch4 ай бұрын
Awesome video, finally that is true budget and not just cheap combo!
@alejocuruchet764 ай бұрын
this was very fun, inspiring and usefull! Looking forward for more videos like this, Tomer!
@gimistesista5 ай бұрын
Never heard of Verazol before!
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
It's very strong!
@Sinistra3595 ай бұрын
I love Verazol!
@killbotgamma3 ай бұрын
bought the singles for Abdel and Legolas. i'm so excited to try them out!
@esbreporter5 ай бұрын
Wonderful work thank you !
@DerrylHopkins4 ай бұрын
Considering how ridiculously overprice Card Kingdom is, I'm surprised you managed to build these decks with them!
@webbc995 ай бұрын
For the Etrata deck, if budget allows, Maskwood Nexus and Arcane Adaptation are absolutely bonkers in that deck because they make all of the face down 2/2s into assassins as well, so you get a board state that doubles in size every turn, it is actually disgusting.
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
They couldn't fit in the budget (hard for me to add stuff over $1) but they are definitely amazing upgrades! Very high-impact upgrades
@BroncosDaBomb195 ай бұрын
Ok, definitely checking out the Verazol deck
@thomaswright85514 ай бұрын
15:26 - "Geese-ela" All I can picture now is a giant angelic goose with a sword 🗡🪿
@tylerheckenliable57854 ай бұрын
So Meneldor, Swift Savior reads "exile up to one target creature you own" which means you cant target the things you cloak from your opponents right?
@tomerabramovici324 ай бұрын
My mistake! Fixed the list, thanks for pointing it out
@user-fe8bb2fy8b4 ай бұрын
love love love your content!!
@michaelcollins45345 ай бұрын
I made a ruxa patient professor deck with a budget of $20 and i had a lot of fun doing it. Looking into making more budget decks in the future
@mattt34815 ай бұрын
56:01 i feel like nerd rage would do very well in this deck as well, an easy 3 mana +10/10 and unlimited hand size, not to mention how it draws 2 more cards
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
Don't know how I missed that! Added the card, thank you :)
@bastianconst4 ай бұрын
Awesome brews. I will definitely build a few of these.
@Botanick135 ай бұрын
Hi Tommer, you forgot to put link into the vid description :) Also would not be good to add Curse of Verbosity into Edric deck?
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
They should all be there now. Yes, the Curse is solid! I personally like the Coastal Piracy type cards more since you can easily draw 3+ cards per trun off them as backup Edrics, but the Curse also works :)
@Botanick135 ай бұрын
@@tomerabramovici32 I also did not realize that Reliq tower is not in this budget, how is it still so expensive! Isnt in like every precon?
@Botanick135 ай бұрын
Suspicious Stowaway fits nicely as well, but nobody wants to track that stupid day/night
@Optimator74 ай бұрын
Love it. CLASH ON!
@lonewolf9754 ай бұрын
I just built a cheap mono green deck already (40$ shigeki spell slinger) but that legolas deck looks like a TON of fun!
@coryledwitch64924 ай бұрын
Just a note for Verazol- when you copy spells with choices, your copies must have the same choices as the original spell. So, if you pick every option, you have to a valid target for each option for the copy or the copy is NOT created!
@MurasakiTama4 ай бұрын
I don't know if you or someone else already caught it but for the Etrata deck, Meneldor only lets you target creatures you own so that unfortunately wouldn't work on cards cloaked from your opponents' libraries. Just wanted to mention it so people that wanna build deck don't buy it and then have to swap it out later.
@tomerabramovici324 ай бұрын
My mistake! Fixed the list, thanks for pointing it out
@c0barsm5 ай бұрын
Ey! Thanks for the Ideas Tomer!
@scottricks16764 ай бұрын
Hamza squad actually sounds super cool!
@rubensilvestre69354 ай бұрын
The people want 100$ next! Update your 50$ aswell please!
@xx-sm8mtАй бұрын
This would be glorious
@bamjo95 ай бұрын
Notable missing: - Commander Liara (Boros Aggro / exile / Myriad) --> Less obnoxious than Winota - Strefan (sac artifact / Vampires) --> similar to Teysa, but Rakdos - Breena (indirect goad / draw / +1/+1) --> a different take on Nelly Borca - Eligeth and Kydele (draw / draw / draw / sphinxes?) --> way better than Esior. Still mono blue, but you put 12 2cmc ramp spells in the deck and you will be consistently casting Eligeth turn 4 thanks to Kydele as partner. Esior is in the deck - Gavi (cycling / blink / draw) - Esix (token / Simic value) - Rionya (storm) --> similar to Zada, but imho more fun
@bamjo95 ай бұрын
Other interesting designs that maybe be harder to build 25$ decks: - Neera, Wild Mage - Bane, Lord of Darkness - .... lots of others
@tomerabramovici324 ай бұрын
Those are fine suggestions! I will mention though Breena is currently over $12 on mtggoldfish so I couldn't do a $25 brew with her, otherwise I would (I did a $50 list though).
@bamjo94 ай бұрын
@@tomerabramovici32 didn't notice! I was used for her to be a 1$ card
@midnalight64195 ай бұрын
You may have heard of 90 land Borborygmos But have you heard of 99 Mountain Ashling
@TheJukeboxzero5 ай бұрын
The Council of Four deck sounds fun
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
Gosh it really is! Five mana is a lot for a commander in 2024 but if Council sticks you're drawing so many cards and making so many tokens!
@Theemosapiens4 ай бұрын
Always love your content 🖤
@thatonedudejake5 ай бұрын
I didn't realize hamza reduced squad, that seems strong
@Sinistra3595 ай бұрын
Hamza is strong! Just needs a bit of setup 😉
@thatonedudejake5 ай бұрын
@@Sinistra359 yeah I have a hamza deck and I've been underestimating him all this time lmao
@T_Peazy5 ай бұрын
It's crazy that Gisela is under $1 because she was like $20 a year ago.
@michaelhurst54034 ай бұрын
Some great ideas
@morriax422 ай бұрын
What would people suggest as upgrades to Gonti?
@tacticalpanther1123 ай бұрын
For the Ognis decklist, what would you replace in the budget decklist for the upgrade card options that are listed under the decklist?
@tomerabramovici323 ай бұрын
It's in the article: "How To Upgrade The best way to upgrade decks is to playtest them first and then make adjustments based on your meta. But let's say you have a bunch of expensive cards and want to juice up these decks without testing them first. What do you take out? The rule of thumb is to take out a card that fulfills a similar role. So if you want to add a Fierce Guardianship then take out Negate, or you have a fetchland then take out a basic. Please don't cut all the lands to add nonland cards. That will make you (and me) sad. The only exceptions are the $10 brews Pako, Malcolm, and Gonti. All of those work a ton better when you're at around 38 lands; the higher land count is to save money."
@Bedni874 ай бұрын
well, that's awesome.
@mattbobek4 ай бұрын
Of these decks, which 4 would be best to start the table with, to get different results?
@tomerabramovici324 ай бұрын
The strongest decks are probably Light-Paws / Winota / Vadrik / Zada, the weakest is Borb / Gonti. All the rest are roughly matched with each other, so pick 4 you like and you're good.
@rexilelsenordelbronce44654 ай бұрын
The only bad part its that with shiping the price grows a lot idk if i should buy a precon
@dieuwtjin3 ай бұрын
Pako is redicukousy broken. I've seen a number of 25-50 dollar decks with him and they almost always win. It's always the same thing; the 'budget' deck is not taken seriously as a threat,, gets all the time to set up and give pako hexproof, then Pako kills everyone as he is unstoppable, grows rediculously quickly and steals too many cards on top of those decks usually running endless amounts of counterspells and protection. I don't know how to feel about him, tbh. On one hand, it is by far the best way to make a budget deck. on the other hand, It's usually not that fun to play against as Pako is very hard to interact with. The claim of being a 'budget deck' doesn't hold much weight either since they plan to use play everyone else's deck instead. You are not beaten with budget cards, just your own cards backed up by endless counterspells and protection for an unkillable creature that draws 3 cards each turn. Are you a budget deck when your gameplan is to esentially still win with the exact same meta cards everyone else uses, just stolen from them?
@msullivan1Ай бұрын
so you’re saying it’s not fair?
@chrism49194 ай бұрын
Does Hamza's cost reduction ability assist with Squad Cost or since that's an additional cost it only reduces the main cost?
@damens-xn9pu4 ай бұрын
I don't think it does because it is an additional cost and not the cost for casting it
@faceepiikle4105 ай бұрын
Tomer i have never wanted to build a +1/+1 counter deck. But building a hamza eldrazi deck has me convinced
@Yakmage5 ай бұрын
Verazol is so much fun but your missing my favorite 3 cent card. Wicker picker gives all your creatures sticker kicker for 1. I dont even play stickers, it just makes my creatures be "kicked" for 1 mana to copy them
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
I was considering it, but there's only 8 nonlegendary creatures without kicker so I'm not sure if it's still worth it. It's much better in Hallar imo because sticker kicker is only 1, and you don't actually care about what the kicked abilities do with Hallar they are just efficient burn.
@mattt34815 ай бұрын
can i get a link to the Edric game mentioned at 40:23? i cant find it
@tomerabramovici324 ай бұрын
It was our very first Commander Clash episode 8 years ago, warning it's incredibly outdated: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adNmlcqTq9icYoU.html
@mattt34814 ай бұрын
@@tomerabramovici32 thank you!
@leonardoribeiro77064 ай бұрын
Am i doing something wrong? At MTGgoldfish, the very first deck is stated as $23, but when i get to CardKingdom, it spikes up to $57. Why is this happening?
@ganneu2 ай бұрын
Remove the basic lands. That should help tremendously.
@SalmonColor5 ай бұрын
Hype!
@mfitkin3 ай бұрын
When are you gonna brew for pauper commander or artisan commander? It’s like you were genetically engineered for it
@kurowasanabe5 ай бұрын
99 lands Ashling better be in.
@tomerabramovici325 ай бұрын
That will be for my "1 Commander Deck Under $1" video :P
@Norwag3 ай бұрын
Anyone got any ideas for a 10$ (maybe up to 12$) Rakdos deck? xD My pod is having a kind of a game to draw a color combination and come up with a super budget deck with it, and I got Rakdos. Was thinking of Kardur but can't come up with anything cheaper than maybe 40$ xD
@tomerabramovici323 ай бұрын
$10 is incredibly difficult, you have to run a very high number of basics so you need a commander that can offset flooding out in some way (pako / malcolm / gonti draw off opponents' decks). For like $25 you can make a bunch of strong decks, for example new Judith or Tor Wauki (+Obosh). Might even be able to get Ob Nix under that. But $10 requires very specific commanders.
@Norwag3 ай бұрын
@@tomerabramovici32 Originaly I was thinkin Kardur, but quickly found out it's close to impossible :X Ob Nixilis himself is over 4$ so also unlikely. Think I'll just give up, would be much easier if I rolled a mono-colour :D
@sunbro78532 ай бұрын
The only $10 deck I have is magic the Noah’s 97 red land deck with Plaargoson Junior the third
@Norwag2 ай бұрын
I finally managed to build a Blim deck. Not sure it works yet xD
@110019a4 ай бұрын
Storm is fun for no one except the storm player
@whatablake3 ай бұрын
My General Ferrous deck won its first game, my deck has 3 mono colored spells everything else is multi
@PracticalPotato2 ай бұрын
Where's my boy Sergeant John Benton
@hobez645 ай бұрын
Expected the first one to say "First things first, we gotta throw in Mana Crypt, after all we gotta cast our commander quickly with some nice mana ramp"
@tylerrassi41484 ай бұрын
Are these all precons or just decks?
@gigawarman124 ай бұрын
They're brews. Not precons
@faust594622 күн бұрын
spoiler alert: if you click the links they are $50-$100 not $25
@gangrel12345 ай бұрын
❤
@thiagoventuradesousa72755 ай бұрын
25$ + 20$ shipping
@ganneu2 ай бұрын
Buy 2 of them. Free shipping for $50 orders of singles.
@Bivanqw4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately your prices does not apply at all in asia country, first is the conversion rate. Second is our country dealers sell cards rounding the price even higher, hence we just do proxy only. I do my 6 decks full of proxy which is better than paying all those. Those decks round off could be my whole month salary. I do not care if u said proxy is bad, but currency is very bad now in my country.
@CinderellaMan9414 ай бұрын
Im glad you and your friends are able to enjoy the game.
@ryanwood42635 ай бұрын
Where’s the kaust deck
@coreysierchio46505 ай бұрын
Ragavan and 99 mountains, lol
@neverashie11095 ай бұрын
maybe on the $50 list
@michaelpohl90775 ай бұрын
I love you ❤
@lit_wick5 ай бұрын
Is the April Fools joke the fact that all of these decks are $50, not $25? Amazing video nontheless.
@MegaJojhan5 ай бұрын
some of these decks are between 5-10 dollars without the basic land cards before shipping, there are no april fools joke here
@darylmcnaughton7484 ай бұрын
eeyyyyy ognis, my ognis deck is decidedly not budget XD
@ODIRGO5 ай бұрын
What's with Tomer's eyes? Why isn't he blinking like a normal human being?
@chaelsonnen14 ай бұрын
GISELLA IS UNDER A 1$ NOW???
@tomerabramovici324 ай бұрын
yup!
@grizzerotwofour78585 ай бұрын
Nice! Shame you putbit up in april fools
@Nobody-xe9fc3 ай бұрын
25 bucks? Pleeeease, I made a Laelia combo deck for under $20.
@patriciaboggs88825 ай бұрын
So, has anybody else thought that Tomer often seems very twitchy in his videos? Like an unusual amount of random seeming movement? I'm wondering if he's got some kind of condition like Parkinsons or anxiety or I'm not sure what? This is not any insult of Tomer. It doesn't seem to affect his content. I'm just genuinely curious and I hope he is ok. P.S. Maybe this is already known and I just missed it. Or maybe I'm wrong.
@lotsofxsosand1s5 ай бұрын
He’s mentioned in prior podcast eps that he has ADHD
@martinhelfrich37314 ай бұрын
I watched him for 20+ hours and never noticed something like that :)
@patriciaboggs88824 ай бұрын
@lotsofxsosand1s Oh, interesting. Maybe that's what I'm noticing? Myself and friends/family have our own issues so I really find it interesting how different people deal with stuff. We've all got stuff to deal with. Like being addicted to budget decks.
@petersdarkheart5 ай бұрын
I love watching Tomers mouth while he talks 😅 He's such a cute dude 😎
@Argentina...5 ай бұрын
I don’t like your thumbnail
@justanotherhuman71065 ай бұрын
So watch the video instead of staring at the thumbnail?
@Argentina...5 ай бұрын
stop patronizing me
@justanotherhuman71065 ай бұрын
@@Argentina... only if you stop hating on the video for no good reason