There's one thing certain in life. Death and Jagex lying to you.

Runemetrics should be free for members

Jagex calling Boeing up right now to "deal" with this man 😂

Just like Jaysus said, and i quote, "I love RS3, but Jagex doesn't".

As an OSRS player, this is the scariest fucking thing i have ever seen in my entire life. The levels of blatant predatory and dishonest behavior is absolute disgusting. It must be terrifying being a osrs dev and sitting in the same building as the people designing *this*

Need to bring minigames back to life. They could easily take mechanics from dungeoneering and scale "fake players" levels with the average levels of real players who are playing

No joke, I would buy a filter that would stop me from seeing / hearing everyone's cosmetics / overrides.

IIRC, Jagex originally started selling bonds to combat bots selling gold on third party websites. I guess they figured that if their players wouldn't have to worry about scammers and violating the terms and conditions, all while reducing bots, it was worth it.

Ahhh, good ol Flute Salad. A man of culture.

I started in 2003.. I don't care about MTX at all to be honest.. I enjoy the game.. but I absolutely HATE how much Runescape content is totally dead.. Minigames, Dungeoneering, 90% of skilling methods, most skilling methods are pretty bad money makers, etc.. also want to sell more skins? Make them look fancy.. 90% of cosmetics in Runescape are ugly AF.. I've played like every avaiable MMO in last 20 years and RS skins are one of the worst looking ever..

Microtransations are biggest plague for ALL games in modern times. Runescape isn't single that has problem with it, even games like WoW where you pay for monthly subscribtion, game and expansions STILL have microtransations.

I've recently found a hobby in valuing businesses and looking at company trends. I've seen an alarming trend where so-called "enshitification" ensues when private equity gets involved. If I recall correctly, Jagex is owned by a private equity firm. This would well explain layoffs and other cost-cutting measures as well as the "by any means necessary" to raise capital. This isn't Jagex's own will, but that of the firm that owns it. The PEF just wants to milk it for what it's worth and sell it to the next person, even if the product, in this case the game, has been milked dry. It happens with something as simple as a grocery store, and something as innovative as a tech startup. DISCLAIMER: I am not a business analyst, nor do I want to be. It's just something I do for fun.

Holy shit I havent heard of NightmareRH in so many years

I came for the lip ASMR at the end, and I came, after the lip ASMR at the end.

Plot twist : Jagex pumps the price of bonds on G.E to get people to buy bonds to sell for GP....

Then: "it would be awesome to get a free 3.5k xp per day" Now: "Gets over 100k free xp per day"

Cant believe a game iv played on and off since 2007 is pretty much coming to an end.

ive stopped playing, and i think im completely done with rs for once. 20 years of memories are now started to feel like shit.

Thank you for never letting topics like this die out, and get swept under the rug as always, and always giving attention to it. I feel bad for the JMods that know and feel the same way, but have to turn a blind eye to all this, i hope people dont give the Mods negativity, not their fault really

On my main account.. I spent quite a bit on keys.. I just felt like I was so far behind everything and that it would take forever to catch up... ultimately I regret it. I ended up making another account in RS3 where the only keys I get are the ones I get from quests and dailies. I have focused more on enjoying the journey.. rather than getting to the end.

that nightmarerh clip threw me back holyyy

Micro transactions are taking over most games now :/

Just wanna say, I am a rs3 player. I have gained 5,400 treasure hunter keys by doing runescapes "earn keys" offers. Offers like spend $80 on this 50% off manscaped deal and get 1,200 keys. Yes $80 for 1,200 keys. Other offers that cost $5 for 300+ keys. I have gained over 2 billion gp from treasure hunter using these keys and over 80m xp. I know that I am not playing "correctly" but life has been so busy I rarely get to play. My goal with these keys is to get my account to end game asap so I can get into bossing and easily complete quests, challenges, etc. Love you protoxx

Shadow Rip TP animation is BiS (faster than other teles by 1 tick) and is freely available for completing some quests. Buying tele animations is literally pay2lose lol.

Also no, those people who say "Lmao just play OSRS" you're not helping, you're just running away from the problem, you're still supporting Jagex by playing their games. If you're genuine about helping, if you really want to make a difference quit FOR GOOD, play on your emulators because the gaming industry is not any better than Jagex.

Still better then the private server game they call “Old School Runescape”

We're listening to Papa Protoxx grow more unhinged every video and i'm here for it.

As someone who maintains their own membership by buying bonds on the GE, I really hate seeing so many promotions causing the skyrocketing in the prices of bonds.

I wish I had an ungodly sum of money to waste so I could buy my most beloved IP and then build a non-profit around it to just build a game by gamers and for gamers.

This year in particular idk if I'd say the reddit community or content creators are the biggest plague....but the thing that has impacted my rs enjoyment the most since January has absolutely been the player base. Honestly biggest factor for taking a break was the excessive negativity. Have been going through unsubscribing every time junk like this comes out because it has been killing my enjoyment more than Jagex has....

Losing trust is a really bad state to be in, but knowing how to tell when someone is lying is useful. It is more the reason behind the lie that is impactful, and I hope it is a good one!

The only one ive been negatively impacted by have been oddment nerfs. I used to be able to consistently earn at least 10 keys (2 from mems, 3 from challenges, and 5 from oddments store) during most of the year. They changed oddment payouts, now when you get something like a 7x prize in TH you can only convert the base prize to oddments, so no 7x oddments. That alone used to keep my oddment useage afloat, along with key sales in the oddment store. Now i use my oddments whenever i have enough to be able to buy another key, i have NEVER won one of those expensive TH override tokens or rares (like the assassins walk override), only "lucky" versions of ~t70 armour (also lucky chaotic weapons). The prizes dont feel balanced even for someone who consistently uses and once in a while splurges on buying keys. The ONLY consistent reward from TH are stars and xp lamps, and even then i feel like recent promotions have been giving less bxp and more xp lamps themselves. Maybe im imagining things?

This is why people should point and laugh at main accounts

Loved the flute salad as transition music, very fitting and silly sounding, lol

Talking about the nerfs to TH specifically its all a move to make people purchase more spins. First action was lower oddments for converting, no extra for multiplies converted, able to buy 15 oddment keys per day. We've seen far more TH promos for sets that require x amount of keys often about 250keys. This is to drain players oddments so they can't keep buying oddment keys especially for xmas time with temptations long before then, probably some at halloween. Unstable proteans replaced regular on TH and at the time I guessed they'd just bring back blues for DXP so people swipe to get some to train skills. Seems thats true. Slayer wild cards also got the nerf. The ones we first had can be used on anything thats a slayer target and gives full xp for being used now replaced with limited specific slayer wild cards also giving less xp. Both still give on rate drops and like proteans this item is back on TH for the Time to train promo. Blue proteans and slayer wild cards won't be gone altogether they'll just be given as rewards in other places or used in TH promos in a limited setting like Time to train. Dummies probably next on the chopping block. If its like the proteans they'll be used faster and give % more xp but won't work on dxp probs.

POE has the best mtx with out negatively effecting game plat. Maybe jagex should talk to them on how it's done

0:40 long-term health of the game, HA, yeah, a lot of what they've been doing is short-term maximum profit type stuff.

We started down the slippery MTX slope and landed at the bottom wondering what the hell happened. How is RS3 monetized? All the ways! At this point, the only one I still support is bonds. On my normal accounts I don't even interact with TH. I close the button and go about my business. TH fundamentally bypasses the game at this point.

the oddments not scaling with multipliers anymore is the biggest scam they did so far

Jagex cant pay their shareholders with integrity. They dont even care that MTX is contributing to the demise of the game.

The economy would be so much better if they simply removed GP from TH, It completely counteracts all gold sinks

Damn I didnt think that many people were buying keys, I thought it was just a few whales.

Something very minor that was only briefly available after release of Bonds, was that players could get physical merch from their store using them. I picked up a t-shirt using this by snagging myself a/some (I forget the cost conversion) bonds from the GE at the time. Still have it as well. Think it kinda slipped off of most people's radar as I have heard nothing of it since.

Managed to handily grind all the yak tracks by the end of their releaseweeks with only the two skips provided on the 50 tasks I honestly didn’t find them as bad as a lot of people complained early about but found the rewards of later yak tracks pretty becoming less and less And while the cosmetics on the hero pass I did like, on its release it was simply too grindy compared to yak track before they finally gave it a more reasonable progression.

i would Like to Add : By not thinking of Bond Ingame Prices, they are killing the Playerbase aswel. I dont think that Regular F2p player can have enough patience to grind towards a bond, which currently is around 120m gp. and for a Lower Skill member it is a Full time job to try to Upkeep a Membership with those prices.. and eventually they Feel it as a chore to Grind the Bonds to be a member and not find any fun in the game and leave.

As an osrs player who just started playing rs3 a few days ago my inner gambler got the better of me. I like them agility boot things tho passive xp yeh

This is the main reason I quit rs3 a few years ago and man it seems to have gotten so much worse

Refer a friend came before SoF and allowed you to refer a friend and it rewarded xp boosts for the referrer and the referred. You could make an account and refer it. Like referring your own alts. So you could buy boosts

if you ever WERE a pmod before this video or being considered for it... you no longer are lol. you arent ALLOWED to criticize jagex.

My level 3 skiller has gotten 120 slayer from free treasure hunter lamps …. when I realised how fucked that was I quit .

Treasure hunter, dumbed down quests, bonds…. We’re not playing RuneScape, we’re playing candy crush.

I hate to say it, but seeing that old skill lamp xp allocation window (the one with the skill icons) was kind of nostalgic. However, in retrospect...the sheer AMOUNT of different MTX approaches Jagex has taken to this game is actually kind of mind-boggling when you see it in one video and something I havn't thought about to be honest. And what's with the JCoin?! Jagex had it's own personal bank with a debt/credit scheme, man that's insane!!!

i would feel so bad as dev for rs3, imagine creating a skilling method only for mtx coming around the corner with another op promo for years its just been, save up proteans and bxp and wait for dxp, dont know what to say anymore

bank boosters should definitely be bought with gp and or unlocks with achievement diaries. Crazy how pricey they are.

I used keys to train many skills I dislike, like Combat (dummies) and Dungeoneering (now 101). Also I trained 111 slayer with mostly dummies 🙂 I bought keys like 4-5 x but only because I didn't have time to play. These days I refuse to buy keys. I rather "grind to earn"

Ive bought keys before for bonus xp just because i want the lvl but dont wanna spend all the time grinding it when i could be bossing

9:15 more blank space adds to the server load so that's why it's sold in Solomon's store. If the thousands of players all had 1800 plus Bank space that would be a huge problem.

Yeah, this perfectly summed up why i stopped playing the game. The few aspects of MTX i did enjoy (bonds when they were less than 15m each from the GE, twitch prime free membership and items) were pretty much stripped from us and all thats left are the disgustingly profitable ones.

I watched another video previously and basically they had to start selling bonds and putting in MTX to sort out the RWT problem. As many people know, credit card companies were threatening to not support jagex and Runescape through membership payments anymore due to people complaining about getting their money stolen-due to RWT, so Jagex removed the wilderness and free trade at the cost of upset to the players, but then brought it back. They then had to make a decision of let RWT's kill the game, or bring in MTX. I think they were backed into a corner and had to make hard decisions, but from then it has spiraled into a very predatory MTX system.

It all started in 2011 with auras and other buyable emotes

Makes me sad to see the state of the game being drowned in MTX...

It's like you said, we are getting used to micro transactions in games. I think we just need to accept it.

Luckly for me, after selling my first Hazelmere ring, I bought 20 bonds for next Gold Premier 2025

I maxed the battle pass right before it ended and got exiled guardian :>

Bonds were started when Jagex was threatened by Credit Card companies that they would no longer deal with Jagex if they didn't start dealing with illegal hold sellers that used credit card numbers fraudulently. It was a genuine threat to the existence of the game.

might need to make a hard cap on bond prices or have gold traded through the system rather than player trading and inflating the price so high people are forced to buy the bonds at a cheaper rate of irl money rather than grind out for months in f2p just for 2 weeks membership and try to maintain the bond with low stats and mainly LOW TIER GEAR because THE HIGHER TIER GEAR ARE MORE THAN THE BONDS ARE WORTH ON GE. You have to think of some SKILLER WAYS RATHER THAN BOSSING. Archeology (digsite stuff at anacronia sites), Invention (mainly high alch machine), and necromancy (rituals and shit for plasm) are good and all but the time balance isn't worth it at mid-tier.

This LOL in the final is making me laugh :) And thx for your video.

ProTom is your new legalock ironman profile name for sure.😅🎉

When the duel arena was here I damn near bought max account just buying bonds for keys and get all lamps and dummies

The issue is until there is a massive improvement in compute and data centers/ server meshing it is just to expensive to Host a MMO. Jagex may have a large amount of revenue but if you were to remove MTX it sadly wouldnt be economically viable. Jagex makes a profit but honestly without MTX RS3 would not be profitable to run only OSRS would be.

i stopped playing rs3 because of keys i bought waaayyyy too many. especially if a DXP weekend was coming up i would try to stock up on proteans. there was one DXP from when it was announced until it was over i spent over $500 USD on just keys.

I quit during the first elite dungeon and looking at these new insane TH promos made me glad I quit early

Man I haven't played in close to two years and its sad to see the game that I spent so much time on decline into something so predatory.

Rs3 has been like this for too many years to ever change now. Just make an Ironman account if you want to avoid it. Unfortunately more people secretly like mtx than you may think, hence why it makes gaming companies so much money, especially younger gamers who know no different.

There is a reason why I play only ironman mode, mtx and GE, therefore I only play the game.

Well i dont have time to Play a shit ton anymore, i played normal for quite a long time but to be able to just buy Agility to 99 was not bad imo. I mean noone has to use mtx since everyone can play at his own pace

RuneScape 3's biggest plague. Not OSRS.

My acc got hacked when I quit and had a shed ton of jcoins I needed to buy to unlock it... Think I paid nearly $200 to unlock my account, was ridiculous. Should have just quit back then.

99% of the people that are complaining about mtx are guilty of contributing to why jagex uses it. Communicate with your dollars and your time, not with your words. Your words mean literally nothing.

17:34 Protoxx *high pitch* lol

I remember buying Diablo 2 I all I had was a cd and a key and that’s it

MTX is the death of games... SO long rs3. Osrs, I am coming back for you soon! :D

Been playing since 2007. Came back in 2020-2023. Was hella fun and reached top 100 rank for hard clues. Even bought a phat. And im currently 1 clue item away from worlds lowest golden double agent title at about 25k completed. But after jagex fucked around with hero pass and basically shafted clues and put them to the side for months at a time i couldn't play anymore, ive since quit again.😂 jagex dont actually want to make the game better they want it to be juuust good enuff so you buy into the mtx. Fuck that. Fuck mtx dyes. They ruined the clue prices!!

Sub revenue increased mainly because of OSRS. They are the ones gaining a bigger player base. RS3 is only going to shit.

I haven't played in nearly 4 months now and I'm not sure I'm ever going back. Which is a shame as I do love the game. I might just stick with OSRS or I might just quit entirely, I'm not sure yet. MTX is only a small part of my reason, but it is a part.

Now thats old school rs, when the bond cost 999b i Will stop playing rs3 i been playing since 2003🎉

Would you believe me if I told you Squeal of Fortune saved Jagex from bankruptcy in 2012?

"Grab your cup of tea..., sit back... and talk shit about runescape...." 😅

where are all the billionaires that used to play runescape bakc in the good old days to buy jamflex and fix this mess?

ill be honest i have bought keys before but it was last year ? i think during the sale of jagex and they wanted to pump their numbers up so they did 400 keys for 20$ on mobile

Weird quesiton protoxx, but i'm a enthusiastic person when it comes to making videos especially about mechanics of the game or big tips/tricks and like to create content I've tried making a video before on one of my other youtube accounts and tbh i feel unmotivated and unsettled due to how much hate jagex is getting Do you personally think in your wholehearted opinion, is it worth starting from the beginning to content create for Runescape at this current point in time?

dont forget protox, jagex is lying to you

Idk how it is today but at one point Jagex also sold bank presets and extra action bars which were super expensive back then but i think they lowered the price years later.

trend of downhill of Jagex

So I have already commented but had to again after seeing that poll, if RS3 has a active player count of 20,000 players and 4% regularly buy keys, and they make 30M revenue from keys a year then these 4% must be throwing heapssss of cash at Jagex, so 20,000x0.04= 800 players, 30M/800 players= $37,500 each player, take off 25% for those not in the 4% = $28,000, which is the average that these 4% are paying Jagex annually. How?????

First and formost, lets define a parameter here, JAGEX is a Enterprise, wich has only one goal to exist, to "make profit", that is entrepeneurship 101. With that settled, que real question is "how?" See, RS as a community has developed cultural habits already, over 20 years of habits, and they ain't changing soon. RS players normaly don't care about cosmetics, so what is left to sell in the game that is not currently there? For me the lack of creativity and the laziness of "not researching" their own community is the real issue. Effects in abilities, color overrides for all tier 70+ equipments and weapons, special "fatalities" when you kill a boss, just a small short clip would work, and so much more could be brought as buyables in the game. Bonds are by far the most effective and useful item in the game, because what it offers, so why aren't they studing the bond format and trying to create more buyables like it to increase revenue?. Runescape as a game is being left behind because os its limitations already, current tech and engine, so they kinda need to come up with something that works, otherwise is a dead company at the end of the year. With other MMO games coming up soon, with better technology, better engeneering, if they don't stand out NOW, most players won't mind starting from scratch in a new game, because the experience will be positite.

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Why are bonds this high now? Can you make a video about it? It used to be about what you make on the top end PvM per hour, doesn't seem like it is now. I'm also thinking of poor Timmy the Peasant mining 60 hours for a bond. Can you still pay for it with dailies?

12:23 That is *literally* level 99 worth of xp in one single action.

Jagex could make some freaking bank if they did a player model update visual combat animation overhaul. instead of that dumb combat rework witch was nice but didnt make them any money